Comments on: Europestar RCR CKD assembly to begin in August http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:30:15 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: fighter_B2500 http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164704 fighter_B2500 Tue, 20 May 2008 04:26:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164704 khengyi82 said, May 18, 2008 @ 12:58 pm what the fork of proton. the car send to china have change the name to euro brand… what the hell is that ____________________________________________________________________________ who care! as long it can be sell and can make profit of it, its ok la.. izit correct guys?? khengyi82 said,

May 18, 2008 @ 12:58 pm

what the fork of proton. the car send to china have change the name to euro brand… what the hell is that
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who care! as long it can be sell and can make profit of it, its ok la..
izit correct guys??

]]> By: Car Freak http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164615 Car Freak Sun, 18 May 2008 05:44:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164615 naikmotoje said, May 16, 2008 @ 6:26 am is the picture snap in china?? i can see perodua kembara there… ------------------------------- yes, is in China they don't call it perodua kembara but daihatsu terios naikmotoje said,
May 16, 2008 @ 6:26 am

is the picture snap in china??
i can see perodua kembara there…
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yes, is in China
they don’t call it perodua kembara but daihatsu terios

]]> By: khengyi82 http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164613 khengyi82 Sun, 18 May 2008 04:58:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164613 what the fork of proton. the car send to china have change the name to euro brand... what the hell is that what the fork of proton. the car send to china have change the name to euro brand… what the hell is that

]]> By: osh_kosh http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164559 osh_kosh Sat, 17 May 2008 13:47:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164559 there's also our famous Proton QC sticker i.e. the "Proton-Lulus" sticking at the rear window.. hope they replace it with Lotus before sold the car :) there’s also our famous Proton QC sticker i.e. the “Proton-Lulus” sticking at the rear window.. hope they replace it with Lotus before sold the car :)

]]> By: Tracks http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164551 Tracks Sat, 17 May 2008 11:06:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164551 The logo on the steering wheel sucks. But that's not what concern me most. The log appears to be a stick-on. If that's the case, during air-bag deployment it would be a projectile. Highly dangerous. I hope the considered about the safety factor before they place the logo there. The logo on the steering wheel sucks. But that’s not what concern me most. The log appears to be a stick-on. If that’s the case, during air-bag deployment it would be a projectile. Highly dangerous. I hope the considered about the safety factor before they place the logo there.

]]> By: ezralimm http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164531 ezralimm Sat, 17 May 2008 04:13:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164531 BanyakMasukWorkshop, I think you were referring to Daewoo Motor corp. toyota and holden are rivals in all segments. eg. aurion vs commodore camry vs epica (rebadged daewoo) yaris hatch vs barina (rebadged daewoo) BanyakMasukWorkshop, I think you were referring to Daewoo Motor corp.

toyota and holden are rivals in all segments.

eg.

aurion vs commodore
camry vs epica (rebadged daewoo)
yaris hatch vs barina (rebadged daewoo)

]]> By: Auto_crat http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164495 Auto_crat Fri, 16 May 2008 13:48:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164495 Just another effort to tap the potentially big and competative market over there. Still the badge is awful...but who cares anyway. Prancing lion?? Just another effort to tap the potentially big and competative market over there. Still the badge is awful…but who cares anyway. Prancing lion??

]]> By: corollaaltis http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164487 corollaaltis Fri, 16 May 2008 11:47:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164487 I think thats a Dario Terios in the first picture I think thats a Dario Terios in the first picture

]]> By: BanyakMasukWorkshop http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164480 BanyakMasukWorkshop Fri, 16 May 2008 10:13:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164480 even toyota sells cars in australia rebadged totally as holden. so whats the problem with that? its a business and marketing decision. Youngman is a china company, led by a very successful chairman in his own right. Who are we to say, sitting here in our chairs behind our keyboards, how best to market and sell cars in china?? i personally think its a great idea. proton is unknown in china. better to go in with a brand association that works, as I hear it, lotus is still very well known in china. at least proton is maximising the use of all its subsidiaries and resources.. even toyota sells cars in australia rebadged totally as holden.

so whats the problem with that? its a business and marketing decision. Youngman is a china company, led by a very successful chairman in his own right. Who are we to say, sitting here in our chairs behind our keyboards, how best to market and sell cars in china??

i personally think its a great idea. proton is unknown in china. better to go in with a brand association that works, as I hear it, lotus is still very well known in china. at least proton is maximising the use of all its subsidiaries and resources..

]]> By: rsrulz http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164466 rsrulz Fri, 16 May 2008 07:31:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164466 when it comes to the NAZA sutera and forza, we change the design a bit. not laeve it the same as these people did to our Gen2. if some China tourist tells me that we copied their RCR design, I'll slap them. when it comes to the NAZA sutera and forza, we change the design a bit. not laeve it the same as these people did to our Gen2. if some China tourist tells me that we copied their RCR design, I’ll slap them.

]]> By: rsrulz http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164465 rsrulz Fri, 16 May 2008 07:22:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164465 What I don't understand is why can't they call it Proton. We call chery, which is from China, its original name. We don't change anything. What I don’t understand is why can’t they call it Proton. We call chery, which is from China, its original name. We don’t change anything.

]]> By: rsrulz http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164463 rsrulz Fri, 16 May 2008 07:19:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164463 BW said that we also take other countries cars like kia and hyundai. if you look at NAZA cars, they say LICENSED BY KIA BW said that we also take other countries cars like kia and hyundai. if you look at NAZA cars, they say LICENSED BY KIA

]]> By: Roti Naan http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164455 Roti Naan Fri, 16 May 2008 05:56:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164455 yeah, since proton own Lotus, proton can put the chap "Lotus" anywhere, like Lotus tuned chassis Lotus inspired aircond vent Lotus style meter cluster Lotus paste mooncake Lotus seed kuachi. Malu la.... yeah, since proton own Lotus, proton can put the chap “Lotus” anywhere, like

Lotus tuned chassis
Lotus inspired aircond vent
Lotus style meter cluster
Lotus paste mooncake
Lotus seed kuachi.

Malu la….

]]> By: ec http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164447 ec Fri, 16 May 2008 04:30:43 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164447 If you have volume, anything we can manufacture and do for you. This is the real volume games. If you have volume, anything we can manufacture and do for you.

This is the real volume games.

]]> By: armandd http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164445 armandd Fri, 16 May 2008 03:58:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164445 waimak said, May 16, 2008 @ 9:45 am The logo on steering wheel looks so awful *tepuk dahi ----------------------------------------------------------- no problem, i think they r used to see such an awful design everyday, made in china, of course.. waimak said,
May 16, 2008 @ 9:45 am

The logo on steering wheel looks so awful *tepuk dahi
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no problem, i think they r used to see such an awful design everyday, made in china, of course..

]]> By: waimak http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164428 waimak Fri, 16 May 2008 01:45:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164428 The logo on steering wheel looks so awful *tepuk dahi* The logo on steering wheel looks so awful *tepuk dahi*

]]> By: WreaKing http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164417 WreaKing Fri, 16 May 2008 00:28:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164417 Well... the logo is not bad laa.... Much better than the "Thundercat" logo. Luckily they choose the "Thundercat" logo, if the choose the Autobots logo then sxxt!! It will be "Copycat" rather than "Thundercat".... Well… the logo is not bad laa….
Much better than the “Thundercat” logo.
Luckily they choose the “Thundercat” logo, if the choose the Autobots logo then sxxt!!
It will be “Copycat” rather than “Thundercat”….

]]> By: shaif http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164415 shaif Fri, 16 May 2008 00:18:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164415 Since Proton own Lotus, they can do whatever they want with the brits company. Afterall, Youngman pay for the logo. Business wise its better to manipulate and maximise the power of the brand as long as its profits back to proton. Since Proton own Lotus, they can do whatever they want with the brits company. Afterall, Youngman pay for the logo. Business wise its better to manipulate and maximise the power of the brand as long as its profits back to proton.

]]> By: abtm http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164413 abtm Thu, 15 May 2008 23:25:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164413 what a big Lotus badge at the rear, since when did Chapman's company make cheap, slow, overweight and poor quality cars fro the masses? what a big Lotus badge at the rear, since when did Chapman’s company make cheap, slow, overweight and poor quality cars fro the masses?

]]> By: azrai http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164407 azrai Thu, 15 May 2008 22:49:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164407 Just send all of those kits to China just like what they did to the Wira. Sent it to Indonesia. The Noh Omar statements make me think, why is it Proton have to develop a new taxi design while Indonesia just take our Wiras as their taxi and assembled it in Chikarang plant. For the royalty matter, i guess it is a coincidence the deal will favour Proton and Lotus. Maybe Savvy after this. Just defunct these 2 models in Malaysia; Gen-2 and Savvy due to its low volume sold and CKDed it in other country with higher volume of demand. Just send all of those kits to China just like what they did to the Wira. Sent it to Indonesia. The Noh Omar statements make me think, why is it Proton have to develop a new taxi design while Indonesia just take our Wiras as their taxi and assembled it in Chikarang plant. For the royalty matter, i guess it is a coincidence the deal will favour Proton and Lotus. Maybe Savvy after this. Just defunct these 2 models in Malaysia; Gen-2 and Savvy due to its low volume sold and CKDed it in other country with higher volume of demand.

]]> By: naikmotoje http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164405 naikmotoje Thu, 15 May 2008 22:26:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164405 is the picture snap in china?? i can see perodua kembara there... is the picture snap in china??
i can see perodua kembara there…

]]> By: xylencia http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164396 xylencia Thu, 15 May 2008 19:04:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164396 richx said, May 16, 2008 @ 12:37 am So that’s where all the non-IAFM/CPS engines went … ------------------- Probably, but I do wish that we sold them the CPS engines instead, that would have created a better '1st impression' on Proton engines. richx said,

May 16, 2008 @ 12:37 am

So that’s where all the non-IAFM/CPS engines went …

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Probably, but I do wish that we sold them the CPS engines instead, that would have created a better ‘1st impression’ on Proton engines.

]]> By: hotwheelz http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164390 hotwheelz Thu, 15 May 2008 17:11:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164390 please redesign your logo!!! please redesign your logo!!!

]]> By: indigo http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164387 indigo Thu, 15 May 2008 16:49:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164387 The fact is Youngman marketed Gen.2 as Lotus and not Proton. They will feel the pain if they try the car, need press hard to get power and fuel consuming. Anyway our Naza also rebadge China made car la. So don't think they are stupid, we also not so smart afterall. Hafei Lobo into Naza Sutera/Forza The fact is Youngman marketed Gen.2 as Lotus and not Proton. They will feel the pain if they try the car, need press hard to get power and fuel consuming.
Anyway our Naza also rebadge China made car la. So don’t think they are stupid, we also not so smart afterall. Hafei Lobo into Naza Sutera/Forza

]]> By: richx http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164386 richx Thu, 15 May 2008 16:37:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164386 So that's where all the non-IAFM/CPS engines went ... So that’s where all the non-IAFM/CPS engines went …

]]> By: tech.titan http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164385 tech.titan Thu, 15 May 2008 16:18:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164385 youngman already commissioned proton (which then commissioned LEM) to design 4 car models for China market. Each models will be marketed differently (probably for four regions in China; north, south, east and west). youngman already commissioned proton (which then commissioned LEM) to design 4 car models for China market. Each models will be marketed differently (probably for four regions in China; north, south, east and west).

]]> By: Roti Naan http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164384 Roti Naan Thu, 15 May 2008 15:55:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164384 the stickers at ther rear hatch cheapens "Lotus" branding.... the stickers at ther rear hatch cheapens “Lotus” branding….

]]> By: BW http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164383 BW Thu, 15 May 2008 15:35:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164383 rsrulz said, May 15, 2008 @ 7:23 pm these guys are nuts. they take our Malaysian things and don’t let anyone know that its ours. besides the engine cover. _____________________________________________________________ We also what... Just look at Naza, or Inokom, batched from Kia, Hyundai and so on..... rsrulz said,

May 15, 2008 @ 7:23 pm

these guys are nuts. they take our Malaysian things and don’t let anyone know that its ours. besides the engine cover.
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We also what… Just look at Naza, or Inokom, batched from Kia, Hyundai and so on…..

]]> By: rockkyman http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164380 rockkyman Thu, 15 May 2008 14:44:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164380 why 'europestar rcr ckd'? why not 'proton gen2 china'? i think when tourist from china came to malaysia, they think that malaysian steal china, but its other way around....... why ‘europestar rcr ckd’?
why not ‘proton gen2 china’?
i think when tourist from china came to malaysia, they think that malaysian steal china, but its other way around…….

]]> By: EddyHyip http://paultan.org/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164377 EddyHyip Thu, 15 May 2008 14:30:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/15/europestar-rcr-ckd-assembly-to-begin-in-august/#comment-164377 hi mokkf82, Proton needs to create it's own identity, not to attract potential by deceiving ppl's eyes. The current proton logo has it's own theme and vision. Proton can be better if more funding for research and development but first and foremost, the company has to restore it's creditability since making losses in previous years. hi mokkf82,
Proton needs to create it’s own identity, not to attract potential by deceiving ppl’s eyes. The current proton logo has it’s own theme and vision. Proton can be better if more funding for research and development but first and foremost, the company has to restore it’s creditability since making losses in previous years.

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