Comments on: Foreign cars banned from filling up near border http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:11:59 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Jeffrey1977 http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165913 Jeffrey1977 Fri, 30 May 2008 13:28:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165913 My opinion is scrap the subs and use the money to aid the food supply and electric bill. Most of the lower and middle income may not be driving at all. Food and utility prices is the main concern. My opinion is scrap the subs and use the money to aid the food supply and electric bill.

Most of the lower and middle income may not be driving at all. Food and utility prices is the main concern.

]]> By: kingbrutal http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165850 kingbrutal Fri, 30 May 2008 01:47:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165850 one more thought to ponder... by removing the subsidiaries, we will be more prudent in spending our hard-earned money on fuel. Neither rich or poor will spent excessively on fuel. If you rich enough, you wouldn't be bothered by the price anyway. But for the rest of us, maybe it's time to rethink about our priorities in regard to spending it on fuel. Thus it also help the environment as well with less vehicle on the road and less pollution. There is no need to cry about being victimized here because if you planned your journey and be light footed on the gas pedal, you might saved a lot during travels. Another benefits are there is less Mat Rempit/Minah Rempit out there because to race, they need to fill up but since the price is high, maybe they will give it up all together. Who knows, there maybe more hidden benefits with removing the subsidiaries all together. Don't take the negatives parts but all look at the positives sides of things. :) one more thought to ponder… by removing the subsidiaries, we will be more prudent in spending our hard-earned money on fuel. Neither rich or poor will spent excessively on fuel. If you rich enough, you wouldn’t be bothered by the price anyway. But for the rest of us, maybe it’s time to rethink about our priorities in regard to spending it on fuel. Thus it also help the environment as well with less vehicle on the road and less pollution. There is no need to cry about being victimized here because if you planned your journey and be light footed on the gas pedal, you might saved a lot during travels. Another benefits are there is less Mat Rempit/Minah Rempit out there because to race, they need to fill up but since the price is high, maybe they will give it up all together. Who knows, there maybe more hidden benefits with removing the subsidiaries all together. Don’t take the negatives parts but all look at the positives sides of things. :)

]]> By: kingbrutal http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165844 kingbrutal Fri, 30 May 2008 01:20:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165844 A better solution is to eliminate the subsidies all together at petrol stations. Every year we submit our tax return, henceforth submit our bills for the fuel we purchased for that year and get the rebate from the government there. Everytime we filled our car, ask for a receipt and keep it for the tax return. This also a good way to catch any people who didn't submit their tax return because for you to enjoy the subsidiaries, you must make a tax return. :) Killing two bird with one stone. A better solution is to eliminate the subsidies all together at petrol stations. Every year we submit our tax return, henceforth submit our bills for the fuel we purchased for that year and get the rebate from the government there. Everytime we filled our car, ask for a receipt and keep it for the tax return. This also a good way to catch any people who didn’t submit their tax return because for you to enjoy the subsidiaries, you must make a tax return. :) Killing two bird with one stone.

]]> By: csv http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165645 csv Wed, 28 May 2008 14:53:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165645 ouch, foreigners probably cursing the government right now. but there's still loopholes in the system, wonder what they will do about it to fix it. i still think removing taxes and lower prices of cars over a period of time will help better, no subsidy to take care of, and no one complaining about misuse. ouch, foreigners probably cursing the government right now.

but there’s still loopholes in the system, wonder what they will do about it to fix it.

i still think removing taxes and lower prices of cars over a period of time will help better, no subsidy to take care of, and no one complaining about misuse.

]]> By: gey2718 http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165636 gey2718 Wed, 28 May 2008 14:13:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165636 i agree with ah liew, the scheme not perfect, further more encourage illegal activities. malaysian forever not being treated equally, SAD and those supportive don't be childish, u think if subsidised remove for foreigners will benefit us? NO, save more and pocketted by those big CROCODILE, end up poor become poorer, and CROCODILE eventually become GIANT CROC! i agree with ah liew, the scheme not perfect, further more encourage illegal activities.
malaysian forever not being treated equally, SAD

and those supportive don’t be childish, u think if subsidised remove for foreigners will benefit us? NO, save more and pocketted by those big CROCODILE, end up poor become poorer, and CROCODILE eventually become GIANT CROC!

]]> By: ah liew http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165635 ah liew Wed, 28 May 2008 14:02:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165635 This will create shady businesses.... I have a friend who use to earn pocket money from selling oil to s'porean by almost emptying his bike fuel tank using the handheld pump. I think Johorian who struggle to work in S'pore will start transfering oil from their M'sia registered car to their S'pore registered car or bike. hee! hee! Just my 2 cent..... This will create shady businesses….

I have a friend who use to earn pocket money from selling oil to s’porean by almost emptying his bike fuel tank using the handheld pump.

I think Johorian who struggle to work in S’pore will start transfering oil from their M’sia registered car to their S’pore registered car or bike. hee! hee!

Just my 2 cent…..

]]> By: ckcheong http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165615 ckcheong Wed, 28 May 2008 12:09:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165615 First of all, I am not rich for saying the below comment, I only drive a proton iswara AB. The idea of setting the fuel pricing so that certain group enjoy subsidy and certain group does not is already a type of discrimination. As long as they are Malaysian, they should be treated equally. Rich people or poor people should enjoy the same treatment la. Which clause in the Constitution that allows different treatment based on rich or poor? There are many other ways that the Government can do to treat everyone equally. Just my opinion. First of all, I am not rich for saying the below comment, I only drive a proton iswara AB.

The idea of setting the fuel pricing so that certain group enjoy subsidy and certain group does not is already a type of discrimination. As long as they are Malaysian, they should be treated equally.

Rich people or poor people should enjoy the same treatment la. Which clause in the Constitution that allows different treatment based on rich or poor?

There are many other ways that the Government can do to treat everyone equally.

Just my opinion.

]]> By: topgunthang http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165604 topgunthang Wed, 28 May 2008 07:41:02 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165604 scrapping the car tax will help anyone who buys a car....proton or not. not just for rich people who are indirectly related to the government itself one way or the other. tax or not they are still taking from the poor in middle class to pay for thier taxed high priced vehicles. you deny them buying expensive cars in mlaysia it would only make them buy more expensive mansions or private jets in other countries. by denying them this lucrative tax the government will need to save cost and not award so many dodgy contracts like MyKad or epetrol, JB port to compete with singapore(i.e no chance) or some shit to some useless contractor who just sells off the contract(keeps most of the money) to mini contractors to do a half done job that runs out of funds anyway. scrap the fuel subsidy and no need to accuse foreigners of stealing. after all we are big on tourism or something. once you are playing in a level field in terms of car market....proton needs to do its job and keep toyota and honda in check. exactly what its suppose to do rather than cause trouble for our own citizens and reporting rubbish reports how successful it is overseas when its not. in terms of petrol there is petronas which is suppose to do its job as well but its more like the russian, south american and african types that hogs the countries natural resources. even without government intervention, car prices would need to compete to bring each other to the cheapest price for the market anyway. rich foreigner or CEO will be too busy enjoying a holiday in some exotic island. scrapping the car tax will help anyone who buys a car….proton or not. not just for rich people who are indirectly related to the government itself one way or the other. tax or not they are still taking from the poor in middle class to pay for thier taxed high priced vehicles. you deny them buying expensive cars in mlaysia it would only make them buy more expensive mansions or private jets in other countries. by denying them this lucrative tax the government will need to save cost and not award so many dodgy contracts like MyKad or epetrol, JB port to compete with singapore(i.e no chance) or some shit to some useless contractor who just sells off the contract(keeps most of the money) to mini contractors to do a half done job that runs out of funds anyway. scrap the fuel subsidy and no need to accuse foreigners of stealing. after all we are big on tourism or something.

once you are playing in a level field in terms of car market….proton needs to do its job and keep toyota and honda in check. exactly what its suppose to do rather than cause trouble for our own citizens and reporting rubbish reports how successful it is overseas when its not. in terms of petrol there is petronas which is suppose to do its job as well but its more like the russian, south american and african types that hogs the countries natural resources.
even without government intervention, car prices would need to compete to bring each other to the cheapest price for the market anyway.

rich foreigner or CEO will be too busy enjoying a holiday in some exotic island.

]]> By: Jeffrey1977 http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165578 Jeffrey1977 Wed, 28 May 2008 05:06:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165578 I dont think that Singapore registered cars will use alot of Malaysia's subsidised petrol. As pointed out all Singapore cars need to be 3/4 tankfull before exiting Singapore. The main problems are the ones coming from the Thai border. Are the Thais required to fill up to 3/4 tank before coming over to Malaysia. Futher more most of them uses 4WD due to their terrain. I think theese gulp more fuel than passenger cars. I dont think that Singapore registered cars will use alot of Malaysia’s subsidised petrol. As pointed out all Singapore cars need to be 3/4 tankfull before exiting Singapore.

The main problems are the ones coming from the Thai border. Are the Thais required to fill up to 3/4 tank before coming over to Malaysia.

Futher more most of them uses 4WD due to their terrain. I think theese gulp more fuel than passenger cars.

]]> By: wookie00 http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165572 wookie00 Wed, 28 May 2008 04:22:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165572 you can never imagine how desperate a Singaporean with their big cars can be... they would rather drive the 50KM and fill up their petrol tanks and make it back. I heard alot of them have their petrol meters altered so they can't get caught exiting out of singapore as they need to adhere to the 3/4 tank full rule. These little nation never like to lose.. i think 100KM radius should keep them away.. hahaha you can never imagine how desperate a Singaporean with their big cars can be… they would rather drive the 50KM and fill up their petrol tanks and make it back. I heard alot of them have their petrol meters altered so they can’t get caught exiting out of singapore as they need to adhere to the 3/4 tank full rule.
These little nation never like to lose.. i think 100KM radius should keep them away.. hahaha

]]> By: 4G63T DSM http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165547 4G63T DSM Wed, 28 May 2008 00:16:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165547 Those that pooh pooh the idea of removing subsidies.... You seriously think with this implementation they will not eventually remove subsidies? Dream on. Seriously, if the government has done any study on this, they will at least have a figure how much the foreigners are exploiting these subsidies. What no figures? no idea what this is costing us? Besides, I view this as a get rich scheme for some one that is going to do the MyKad thing. It looks to me the cost of the "fix" will be more than the cost of the problem. And then, after all is said and done, it wont work and excuses abound. This is not the first time this has happened. Do you really think this is in any way enforceable? Lets face it, the country has been bankrupted by the government in the past 20 odd years. They can't afford to give subsidies anymore. Since everything leading to the government is so secretive, do you really know the financial and economical health of the country? They can't even get the CPI numbers correct for crying out loud. Those that pooh pooh the idea of removing subsidies….

You seriously think with this implementation they will not eventually remove subsidies? Dream on. Seriously, if the government has done any study on this, they will at least have a figure how much the foreigners are exploiting these subsidies. What no figures? no idea what this is costing us?

Besides, I view this as a get rich scheme for some one that is going to do the MyKad thing.

It looks to me the cost of the “fix” will be more than the cost of the problem. And then, after all is said and done, it wont work and excuses abound. This is not the first time this has happened. Do you really think this is in any way enforceable?

Lets face it, the country has been bankrupted by the government in the past 20 odd years. They can’t afford to give subsidies anymore. Since everything leading to the government is so secretive, do you really know the financial and economical health of the country? They can’t even get the CPI numbers correct for crying out loud.

]]> By: Archer http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165536 Archer Tue, 27 May 2008 19:56:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165536 Excellent move by the government but I'm afraid needs more thought into how control can be put in place. Not only Malaysians who own foreign registered vehicles will have issues but when the MyKad method is used for purchase of ePetrol for example, how does Malaysians who are married to foreign wives will deal with wife filling up gas when she has no MyKad? Tricky huh? Excellent move by the government but I’m afraid needs more thought into how control can be put in place. Not only Malaysians who own foreign registered vehicles will have issues but when the MyKad method is used for purchase of ePetrol for example, how does Malaysians who are married to foreign wives will deal with wife filling up gas when she has no MyKad? Tricky huh?

]]> By: cetait http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165524 cetait Tue, 27 May 2008 17:35:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165524 Haha I bet those number plate makers in the border areas must be doing good business lately. 5 minutes making a Malaysian style number plate and anyone can buy petrol again. And good point Ichan! Can add extra room already lah! syoh, get a grip. why keep mocking the intelligence of other posters? after all, they're not the ones living in a paranoid world full of super modified monster fuel tanks and foreigners and CEOs infiltrating malaysian blogs. lol Haha I bet those number plate makers in the border areas must be doing good business lately. 5 minutes making a Malaysian style number plate and anyone can buy petrol again.

And good point Ichan! Can add extra room already lah!

syoh, get a grip. why keep mocking the intelligence of other posters? after all, they’re not the ones living in a paranoid world full of super modified monster fuel tanks and foreigners and CEOs infiltrating malaysian blogs. lol

]]> By: Roti Naan http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165521 Roti Naan Tue, 27 May 2008 17:32:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165521 Singaporean not only come in with car to pump petrol in jb. The oso makan until full in the stomach. Since harga tepung skyrocketed, can we ask the Govt. to make sure before Singaporean come in to JB, they must have half full stomach oso?? hehehehe Singaporean not only come in with car to pump petrol in jb.

The oso makan until full in the stomach. Since harga tepung skyrocketed, can we ask the Govt. to make sure before Singaporean come in to JB, they must have half full stomach oso?? hehehehe

]]> By: davidcks http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165512 davidcks Tue, 27 May 2008 16:14:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165512 Hi, Im a S'porean, and understand that M'sian gov have to do something, but then every SG car that leaves SG is already atleast 3/4 tank full. Pump also cannot pump alot. Then again, not every S'porean goes to JB just for the petrol only. Not sure what will happen to the businesses in JB. I think those coming from the thai border are more solid, come into MY with empty tanks and top up full. (saw on local TV news) Hi, Im a S’porean, and understand that M’sian gov have to do something, but then every SG car that leaves SG is already atleast 3/4 tank full. Pump also cannot pump alot.

Then again, not every S’porean goes to JB just for the petrol only. Not sure what will happen to the businesses in JB.

I think those coming from the thai border are more solid, come into MY with empty tanks and top up full. (saw on local TV news)

]]> By: aliBaPa http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165510 aliBaPa Tue, 27 May 2008 15:39:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165510 if no choice, i'll sell my bike. since jb and woodlands custom always jam, i seldom drive to spore oredi. park sgpore registered bike at jb. if no choice, i’ll sell my bike.
since jb and woodlands custom always jam, i seldom drive to spore oredi.
park sgpore registered bike at jb.

]]> By: aliBaPa http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165508 aliBaPa Tue, 27 May 2008 15:37:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165508 i drive kancil and almost never pump more than RM40. so i think the first 40 ringgit must be subsidy. or a combination of engine size, national car or not etc....busket policy i mean. anyway don't do it on bikes too since they are too small, and i own one too. i drive kancil and almost never pump more than RM40.
so i think the first 40 ringgit must be subsidy.
or a combination of engine size, national car or not etc….busket policy i mean.

anyway don’t do it on bikes too since they are too small, and i own one too.

]]> By: ah liew http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165502 ah liew Tue, 27 May 2008 15:10:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165502 I think S'porean are feeling the pinch especially those who travel in & out of JB for work everyday. This includes S'pore PR who drives S'pore car in JB. Thats a big problem too..... which means fellow M'sian who owns a S'pore car or especially bikes ... how? headache! I think S’porean are feeling the pinch especially those who travel in & out of JB for work everyday. This includes S’pore PR who drives S’pore car in JB. Thats a big problem too….. which means fellow M’sian who owns a S’pore car or especially bikes … how? headache!

]]> By: irwinsim http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165497 irwinsim Tue, 27 May 2008 14:53:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165497 mystvearn... what a good point... for your information S'pore car need 3/4 tank before leaving their country border... but Spore gov already force their ppl to fill up 3/4 tank, if m'sia limit their tank to 1/4 tank b4 leave... than mean they must spend 1/2 tank in m'sia before go back... Hahaha... mystvearn… what a good point… for your information S’pore car need 3/4 tank before leaving their country border…

but Spore gov already force their ppl to fill up 3/4 tank, if m’sia limit their tank to 1/4 tank b4 leave… than mean they must spend 1/2 tank in m’sia before go back… Hahaha…

]]> By: mystvearn http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165490 mystvearn Tue, 27 May 2008 13:12:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165490 All this while, we have thais and sg people fill in at our pumps. We have to make a rule at customs immigration point where -if you leave the country, your fuel tank must be at most 1/4 full. Not more than that. Like sg say their cars leaving their country need to have at least 1/2 full tank. All this while, we have thais and sg people fill in at our pumps. We have to make a rule at customs immigration point where -if you leave the country, your fuel tank must be at most 1/4 full. Not more than that. Like sg say their cars leaving their country need to have at least 1/2 full tank.

]]> By: gey2718 http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165483 gey2718 Tue, 27 May 2008 12:37:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165483 stupid G yes i'm driving singapore car and i'm genuine MALAYSIAN holding the useless MY CARD u think i'm rich? drive Singapore Car? i got no opportunity in malaysia, offer me rm1800 to work in malaysia, can not even afford a kancil then Singapore spare me a decent job of S$2500, and i need a CAR for that job, i struggle to buy a car but still better than the rm1800 offer in jb hey i still stay in jb and i bring back $$ to jb everyday, why i cannot buy cheap petrol here? ban foreign car from buying fuel? then u think low-middle income like me will be happy? NO NO last time was so ambitious to implement the so called MULTI FUNCTIONAL MY CARD? then now use for show just call a straight line of BAN all then affect poor ppl like me. use MY CARD to justify who gets subsidise if not just remove for all people! FAIR stupid G
yes i’m driving singapore car and i’m genuine MALAYSIAN holding the useless MY CARD
u think i’m rich? drive Singapore Car?
i got no opportunity in malaysia, offer me rm1800 to work in malaysia, can not even afford a kancil
then Singapore spare me a decent job of S$2500, and i need a CAR for that job, i struggle to buy a car but still better than the rm1800 offer in jb
hey i still stay in jb and i bring back $$ to jb everyday, why i cannot buy cheap petrol here?
ban foreign car from buying fuel?
then u think low-middle income like me will be happy? NO NO
last time was so ambitious to implement the so called MULTI FUNCTIONAL MY CARD? then now use for show
just call a straight line of BAN all then affect poor ppl like me.
use MY CARD to justify who gets subsidise if not just remove for all people! FAIR

]]> By: chap_de_x http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165473 chap_de_x Tue, 27 May 2008 11:26:35 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165473 hahaha another politic speculation crap for the day...so boring...dont subsidize anymore??? clear out all taxation and duties???....that is brilliant idea from someone that always want to use so call branded car at cheap price...very selfish crap...dun think about low income people eh...how about motorist...filling up petrol per day is more then the road tax they pay per year??...it will burden them...plzz think about them...the idea for cheap car is only good for you not for me at least...for this so called tourist....good luck to you to find another way to abuse our subsidy....50km is far enuf to make this so call tourist to think twice to travel 100 km just to get cheap petrol at our country...guys...abuse will always happen no matter what we do but the important thing is how we control/minimize them...g luck shahrir...its time to work....no more politics...wait for another 4 year then start talk about politics again hahaha another politic speculation crap for the day…so boring…dont subsidize anymore??? clear out all taxation and duties???….that is brilliant idea from someone that always want to use so call branded car at cheap price…very selfish crap…dun think about low income people eh…how about motorist…filling up petrol per day is more then the road tax they pay per year??…it will burden them…plzz think about them…the idea for cheap car is only good for you not for me at least…for this so called tourist….good luck to you to find another way to abuse our subsidy….50km is far enuf to make this so call tourist to think twice to travel 100 km just to get cheap petrol at our country…guys…abuse will always happen no matter what we do but the important thing is how we control/minimize them…g luck shahrir…its time to work….no more politics…wait for another 4 year then start talk about politics again

]]> By: lchan http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165468 lchan Tue, 27 May 2008 10:45:16 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165468 RM250,000 or 3 years jail? The only real ones who are cheering and laughing till the cows come home are the inspectors in charge of policing this policy. Time for them to renovate house!. RM250,000 or 3 years jail? The only real ones who are cheering and laughing till the cows come home are the inspectors in charge of policing this policy. Time for them to renovate house!.

]]> By: Jeffrey1977 http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165465 Jeffrey1977 Tue, 27 May 2008 10:33:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165465 Unfair as some middle income group drives Singapore cars to work. While the rich malaysians driving BIG engine cars are allowed to use the subsidiesed petrol. Bet next election will go to oppositions! Remember G, they voted for you to. Not all working in Singapore are rich. If they are, they will stay over in Singapore and not Johor! Dumb G! Unfair as some middle income group drives Singapore cars to work. While the rich malaysians driving BIG engine cars are allowed to use the subsidiesed petrol.

Bet next election will go to oppositions! Remember G, they voted for you to. Not all working in Singapore are rich. If they are, they will stay over in Singapore and not Johor!

Dumb G!

]]> By: SY0H http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165451 SY0H Tue, 27 May 2008 09:24:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165451 Hi, I was hoping the big "G" to commence the MyKad system after in-depth study. But they did mention that this particular banning is a temporary move (not a good one though). But in common sense, it means we're actually forcing the so-called "tourist" to buy fuel at their own country before journeying into Malaysia, that's quite a good move if you ask me. This move was made because we can't simply let foreigners from neighbouring countries with modified extra-huge tank gulping our subsidized fuel. Trust me, most of this people only come to our border to buy fuel and go back to their hometown just across the border on a daily basis. This is at least very true at the Sarawak-Kalimantan (Tebedu) border and Malaysia-Thailand border. Some brilliant guy in here (possible mad foreigners or a very rich CEO) told us to remove the oil subsidy altogether, that's the all reasons why big "G" big defeat in the last 11th election. Keep on increasing fuel price. Fuel price is a very sensitive issue for all Malaysians. Only rich people can afford to say those daring words "Remove the oil subsidy". How about low-income people and middle-income people? Too ignorant to think of them? I say we carry on with MyKad verification system first. Which is the fastest and cheapest way to implement fuel control. We have discussed "Fuel Subsidy Control" in at least 3 threads before at; http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/26/nor-revised-fuel-subsidy-to-be-decided-soon/. http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/21/epetrol-possible-fuel-subsidy-control-mechanism/ http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/11/subsidised-petrol-soon-only-for-verified-malaysians/ So please go through there first before starting to blind-bash possible good ideas like a madman. As usual our mini-parliament comes out with their very own "brilliant" ideas. Keep it up boys and girls! Hi,

I was hoping the big “G” to commence the MyKad system after in-depth study. But they did mention that this particular banning is a temporary move (not a good one though). But in common sense, it means we’re actually forcing the so-called “tourist” to buy fuel at their own country before journeying into Malaysia, that’s quite a good move if you ask me. This move was made because we can’t simply let foreigners from neighbouring countries with modified extra-huge tank gulping our subsidized fuel. Trust me, most of this people only come to our border to buy fuel and go back to their hometown just across the border on a daily basis. This is at least very true at the Sarawak-Kalimantan (Tebedu) border and Malaysia-Thailand border.

Some brilliant guy in here (possible mad foreigners or a very rich CEO) told us to remove the oil subsidy altogether, that’s the all reasons why big “G” big defeat in the last 11th election. Keep on increasing fuel price. Fuel price is a very sensitive issue for all Malaysians. Only rich people can afford to say those daring words “Remove the oil subsidy”. How about low-income people and middle-income people? Too ignorant to think of them? I say we carry on with MyKad verification system first. Which is the fastest and cheapest way to implement fuel control. We have discussed “Fuel Subsidy Control” in at least 3 threads before at;

http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/26/nor-revised-fuel-subsidy-to-be-decided-soon/.
http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/21/epetrol-possible-fuel-subsidy-control-mechanism/
http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/11/subsidised-petrol-soon-only-for-verified-malaysians/

So please go through there first before starting to blind-bash possible good ideas like a madman. As usual our mini-parliament comes out with their very own “brilliant” ideas. Keep it up boys and girls!

]]> By: SY0H http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165450 SY0H Tue, 27 May 2008 09:15:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165450 Hi, I was hoping the big "G" to commence the MyKad system after in-depth study. But they did mention that the banning is a temporary move (not a good one though). But in common sense, it means we're actually forcing the so-called "tourist" to buy fuel at their own country before journeying into Malaysia, that's quite a good move if you ask me. This move was made because we can't simply let foreigners from neighbouring countries with modified extra-huge tank gulping our subsidized fuel. Trust me, most of this people only come to our border to buy fuel and go back to their hometown just across the border on a daily basis. This are at least very true at the Sarawak-Kalimantan (Tebedu) border and Malaysia-Thailand border. Some brilliant guy in here (possible mad foreigners or a very rich CEO) told us to remove the oil subsidy altogether, that's the all reasons why big "G" big defeat in the last 11th election. Keep on increasing fuel price. Fuel price is a very sensitive issue for all Malaysians. Only rich people can afford to say those daring words "Remove the oil subsidy". How about low-income people and middle-income people? Too ignorant to think of them? I say we carry on with MyKad verification system first. Which are the fastest and cheapest way to implement fuel control. We have discussed "Fuel Subsidy Control" in at least 3 threads before at; http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/26/nor-revised-fuel-subsidy-to-be-decided-soon/. http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/21/epetrol-possible-fuel-subsidy-control-mechanism/ http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/11/subsidised-petrol-soon-only-for-verified-malaysians/ So please go through there first before starting to blind-bash possible good ideas like madman. As usual our mini-parliament come out with their very own "brialiant" ideas. Keep it up boys and girls! Hi,

I was hoping the big “G” to commence the MyKad system after in-depth study. But they did mention that the banning is a temporary move (not a good one though). But in common sense, it means we’re actually forcing the so-called “tourist” to buy fuel at their own country before journeying into Malaysia, that’s quite a good move if you ask me. This move was made because we can’t simply let foreigners from neighbouring countries with modified extra-huge tank gulping our subsidized fuel. Trust me, most of this people only come to our border to buy fuel and go back to their hometown just across the border on a daily basis. This are at least very true at the Sarawak-Kalimantan (Tebedu) border and Malaysia-Thailand border.

Some brilliant guy in here (possible mad foreigners or a very rich CEO) told us to remove the oil subsidy altogether, that’s the all reasons why big “G” big defeat in the last 11th election. Keep on increasing fuel price. Fuel price is a very sensitive issue for all Malaysians. Only rich people can afford to say those daring words “Remove the oil subsidy”. How about low-income people and middle-income people? Too ignorant to think of them? I say we carry on with MyKad verification system first. Which are the fastest and cheapest way to implement fuel control. We have discussed “Fuel Subsidy Control” in at least 3 threads before at;
http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/26/nor-revised-fuel-subsidy-to-be-decided-soon/.
http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/21/epetrol-possible-fuel-subsidy-control-mechanism/
http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/11/subsidised-petrol-soon-only-for-verified-malaysians/

So please go through there first before starting to blind-bash possible good ideas like madman. As usual our mini-parliament come out with their very own “brialiant” ideas. Keep it up boys and girls!

]]> By: charles27 http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165447 charles27 Tue, 27 May 2008 09:00:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165447 haha.. foreign car or bike entering malaysia... bayar entrance fee.. RM50 , RM25. DONE! haha.. foreign car or bike entering malaysia… bayar entrance fee.. RM50 , RM25. DONE!

]]> By: charles27 http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165445 charles27 Tue, 27 May 2008 08:53:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165445 1. big CC, no subsidise wont work. I am getting a new honda 3.5, i just change the sticker to 2.0 and enjoy the cheap rate :P ... the C220 will put the sticker to be C200 .. and so ON. Solution> special pump for mercedes, bmw, ferrari, aostin, etc. As we have special pump for bike now. no sub for you ya. Haha... kancil lane ONLY :) 2. to prevent 10k forigner to use out RM3, we have to implement 100millions card system? that is not good idea too. As i speak, some datuk really goin rich soon from this card system. :P 3. Its really simple, do the 50km rules thing. This is the best. The radious would have very little station compare country wide. Easy to monitor. Station is based on 'franshise' like, the shell wont let its station simply break this rule. They have to ensure their station do as new rule as well. 4. for foreign car, enter malaysia will 3/4 tank petrol. This is PLAN B. Beside teh 50km thing. 5. After 3&4 above done, time to revise the tax for vehicle. And you can manage by CC. Actually my new car 3.5 is already taxed 4.5k per year, and that goes to Gov at the end. Well, it make sense thought. 6. finally, hope to see import tax revised too. thats what causing our ashe to pain everytime getting a new car. 1. big CC, no subsidise wont work.
I am getting a new honda 3.5, i just change the sticker to 2.0 and enjoy the cheap rate :P … the C220 will put the sticker to be C200 .. and so ON.
Solution> special pump for mercedes, bmw, ferrari, aostin, etc. As we have special pump for bike now. no sub for you ya. Haha… kancil lane ONLY :)

2. to prevent 10k forigner to use out RM3, we have to implement 100millions card system? that is not good idea too. As i speak, some datuk really goin rich soon from this card system. :P

3. Its really simple, do the 50km rules thing. This is the best. The radious would have very little station compare country wide. Easy to monitor. Station is based on ‘franshise’ like, the shell wont let its station simply break this rule. They have to ensure their station do as new rule as well.

4. for foreign car, enter malaysia will 3/4 tank petrol. This is PLAN B. Beside teh 50km thing.

5. After 3&4 above done, time to revise the tax for vehicle. And you can manage by CC. Actually my new car 3.5 is already taxed 4.5k per year, and that goes to Gov at the end. Well, it make sense thought.

6. finally, hope to see import tax revised too. thats what causing our ashe to pain everytime getting a new car.

]]> By: 4G63T DSM http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165438 4G63T DSM Tue, 27 May 2008 08:33:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165438 So if I live close to singapore or thailand, I can drive a locally registered Pajero with a 100L tank and fill up, then siphon it out and resell.. Even simpler, If I were to fill a 250L drum with petrol, just who is going to stop me?? No way this is ever going to discourage anyone from making a quick buck. Its jsut going to end up what happend to the fishermen with diesel. Bone heads ...they never learn. Take away subsidies, and the problem goes away...remove all duties and road taxation. As per giving subsidies based on CC, thats government thinking for you. You already get taxed higher for larger CC cars....why? you going to abolish road taxation based on CCs as well? topgunthang got it right, what will this leave us with, 600cc Wajas? Well to do people can change vehicles to match whatever new rules the governemnt comes up with. Its the middle income earners like most of us that are stuck with our cars. My "big" 1.8 Satria burns less petrol than the excuse of a car called the Wira 1.5auto or my brothers 1.3 Satria. In fact our Accord 2.0, burns even less than my 1.8 Satria. Newer cars/engines are more efficient. Take taxes off cars, and everyone will be driving more efficient cars, saving the everyone and the country money. So if I live close to singapore or thailand, I can drive a locally registered Pajero with a 100L tank and fill up, then siphon it out and resell..
Even simpler,
If I were to fill a 250L drum with petrol, just who is going to stop me??

No way this is ever going to discourage anyone from making a quick buck. Its jsut going to end up what happend to the fishermen with diesel. Bone heads …they never learn.

Take away subsidies, and the problem goes away…remove all duties and road taxation.

As per giving subsidies based on CC, thats government thinking for you. You already get taxed higher for larger CC cars….why? you going to abolish road taxation based on CCs as well?

topgunthang got it right, what will this leave us with, 600cc Wajas?

Well to do people can change vehicles to match whatever new rules the governemnt comes up with. Its the middle income earners like most of us that are stuck with our cars.

My “big” 1.8 Satria burns less petrol than the excuse of a car called the Wira 1.5auto or my brothers 1.3 Satria. In fact our Accord 2.0, burns even less than my 1.8 Satria.

Newer cars/engines are more efficient. Take taxes off cars, and everyone will be driving more efficient cars, saving the everyone and the country money.

]]> By: 2fast http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165436 2fast Tue, 27 May 2008 08:19:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/foreign-cars-banned-from-filling-up-near-border/#comment-165436 Found a link to compare petrol prices around the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_usage_and_pricing Try to compare ours with other oil producing countries. Found a link to compare petrol prices around the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_usage_and_pricing

Try to compare ours with other oil producing countries.

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