Comments on: Tata Nano to get US$10 airbag? http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:35:00 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: sunny_10 http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-166609 sunny_10 Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:58:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-166609 Glad to hear in the paper after a lorry and a bus plunged of the highways and into ravines this week, the the gov is "planning" to have seat belts for bus passengers. It is high time. But should not this have been earlier. When we talk of human lives lost we must not say "better late than never". One former minister was quoted in the papers as saying add one more layer of barrier and the buses would be stopped. The papers showed the double layer, why then the bus went off the highway? I have seen cable pre-stressed barriers being tested on some stretches of roads. If this is any good why not replace all the existing barriers. Glad to hear in the paper after a lorry and a bus plunged of the highways and into ravines this week, the the gov is “planning” to have seat belts for bus passengers. It is high time. But should not this have been earlier. When we talk of human lives lost we must not say “better late than never”.

One former minister was quoted in the papers as saying add one more layer of barrier and the buses would be stopped. The papers showed the double layer, why then the bus went off the highway?

I have seen cable pre-stressed barriers being tested on some stretches of roads. If this is any good why not replace all the existing barriers.

]]> By: tokmoh http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165782 tokmoh Thu, 29 May 2008 09:57:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165782 sunny_10 said, May 29, 2008 @ 1:52 am Malaysians need laws to wear seatbelts, let alone airbags? As the saying goes, one should "learn to crawl before they run". In more civilised countries, they dun need laws and duit kopi to buckle up. Airbags? Sure, it's nice, but without seatbelts, it makes no different having it or not having it. sunny_10 said,

May 29, 2008 @ 1:52 am

Malaysians need laws to wear seatbelts, let alone airbags? As the saying goes, one should “learn to crawl before they run”. In more civilised countries, they dun need laws and duit kopi to buckle up.

Airbags? Sure, it’s nice, but without seatbelts, it makes no different having it or not having it.

]]> By: hughie522 http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165760 hughie522 Thu, 29 May 2008 06:30:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165760 Let's be reasonable here. Incidents of people receiving burns from airbags are about as common of incidents of people receiving cuts and abrasions from seatbelts. No technology is perfect. The fact of the matter is, airbags prevent far more injuries and deaths than they cause. If Tata can have one of its suppliers produce a $10 airbag (and, considering they've already proven they can build a 1 lahk car), then that'd be a true engineering feat. Let’s be reasonable here. Incidents of people receiving burns from airbags are about as common of incidents of people receiving cuts and abrasions from seatbelts. No technology is perfect.

The fact of the matter is, airbags prevent far more injuries and deaths than they cause. If Tata can have one of its suppliers produce a $10 airbag (and, considering they’ve already proven they can build a 1 lahk car), then that’d be a true engineering feat.

]]> By: sunny_10 http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165667 sunny_10 Wed, 28 May 2008 17:52:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165667 At least they view safety seriously. Look at the Saga: even the ML model has only one airbag. Is the "co-pilot"'s life less precious? How can we accept this sitting down. The gov and agencies know the accident rates and death rates are rising day by day. There shall be no compromise on basic safety. All cars shall be with minimum dual airbags and ABS&EDB braking system. Talking of back row safety car seat belts. What about seat belts for buses. Passengers getting thrown out stand zero chance of survival. At least they view safety seriously.

Look at the Saga: even the ML model has only one airbag. Is the “co-pilot”’s life less precious?

How can we accept this sitting down.

The gov and agencies know the accident rates and death rates are rising day by day. There shall be no compromise on basic safety. All cars shall be with minimum dual airbags and ABS&EDB braking system. Talking of back row safety car seat belts. What about seat belts for buses. Passengers getting thrown out stand zero chance of survival.

]]> By: sunny_10 http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165664 sunny_10 Wed, 28 May 2008 16:59:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165664 We Malaysians are very accommodating. Paul, how can a "cheap" car have two air bags? Why do we accept the m-end new saga with only one air bag? Is the "co-pilot"'s life less precious? In view of the high rate of accidents and fatalities, the government and agencies must not compromise on safety. All l, m and h end models must have the basic safety features such as dual air bags, abs + edb brakes, side reiforcement, no more MILOW tins, etc. We Malaysians are very accommodating.

Paul, how can a “cheap” car have two air bags? Why do we accept the m-end new saga with only one air bag? Is the “co-pilot”’s life less precious?

In view of the high rate of accidents and fatalities, the government and agencies must not compromise on safety. All l, m and h end models must have the basic safety features such as dual air bags, abs + edb brakes, side reiforcement, no more MILOW tins, etc.

]]> By: csv http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165649 csv Wed, 28 May 2008 15:03:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165649 so cheap? possible anot? sekali airbag is "supplied inhouse" aka homemade, using pillowcase, rubber, foam and sponge. LOL. so cheap? possible anot?

sekali airbag is “supplied inhouse” aka homemade, using pillowcase, rubber, foam and sponge.

LOL.

]]> By: BanyakMasukWorkshop http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165612 BanyakMasukWorkshop Wed, 28 May 2008 09:57:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165612 i think its a marketing gimmick.. or probably an attempt to disguise the fact that this car is potentially dangerous in any form of accident. but still i agree.. if its for the low income grp, who would normally not be able to afford a car to upgrade from motorbikes, its still a lot better than riding a bike. it works for the market it was intended for, and thats india. I seriously doubt it will work elsewhere. as for the USD10 airbag... most of you forget that it doesn't even exist yet.. its only a concept on paper. Tata has basically told autoliv, we want airbags for the nano, and will not pay more than USD10 for it. it remains to be seen if they can, or will even try to bother doing it. lets also not forget that to have effective use of airbags, you will not only need seatbelts, but seatbelts with pre-tensioners fitted. and you need to use them of course. i think its a marketing gimmick.. or probably an attempt to disguise the fact that this car is potentially dangerous in any form of accident.

but still i agree.. if its for the low income grp, who would normally not be able to afford a car to upgrade from motorbikes, its still a lot better than riding a bike. it works for the market it was intended for, and thats india. I seriously doubt it will work elsewhere.

as for the USD10 airbag… most of you forget that it doesn’t even exist yet.. its only a concept on paper.

Tata has basically told autoliv, we want airbags for the nano, and will not pay more than USD10 for it. it remains to be seen if they can, or will even try to bother doing it.

lets also not forget that to have effective use of airbags, you will not only need seatbelts, but seatbelts with pre-tensioners fitted. and you need to use them of course.

]]> By: topgunthang http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165597 topgunthang Wed, 28 May 2008 07:11:35 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165597 mitlanevo said, May 28, 2008 @ 12:36 am OMG, hopefully they are not using Carrefour plastic bags as the airbags…. ------------------------------------- nope, its the ones you find littered on the streets of calcutta mitlanevo said,

May 28, 2008 @ 12:36 am

OMG, hopefully they are not using Carrefour plastic bags as the airbags….

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nope, its the ones you find littered on the streets of calcutta

]]> By: bmpower http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165592 bmpower Wed, 28 May 2008 07:07:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165592 Airbag or just a plastic bag? USD 10? well.. there's enough died human skin on the india street.. scary huh!? agreed.. nonsense of use for the soft body car like this.. What airbag if the body you can kick to break it!? Airbag or just a plastic bag?
USD 10? well.. there’s enough died human skin on the india street..
scary huh!?

agreed.. nonsense of use for the soft body car like this.. What airbag if the body you can kick to break it!?

]]> By: corollaaltis http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165587 corollaaltis Wed, 28 May 2008 06:08:43 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165587 mitlanevo said, May 28, 2008 @ 12:36 am OMG, hopefully they are not using Carrefour plastic bags as the airbags…. ------------------------------------------ They will use belon as the airbags mitlanevo said,
May 28, 2008 @ 12:36 am

OMG, hopefully they are not using Carrefour plastic bags as the airbags….

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They will use belon as the airbags

]]> By: moonier http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165573 moonier Wed, 28 May 2008 04:30:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165573 the airbag is useless for this kind of car.. the airbag is useless for this kind of car..

]]> By: Realeyes http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165565 Realeyes Wed, 28 May 2008 03:14:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165565 You don't need airbags when your car been flatten by a truck.. You don’t need airbags when your car been flatten by a truck..

]]> By: Allan http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165562 Allan Wed, 28 May 2008 02:01:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165562 Airbags work best only if the vehicle's crash performance was designed from the get-go to include them. At its core its all about the chassis' ability to properly absorb and dissipate impact energy, and the airbags ability to deploy at a certain velocity and timing to cushion the head. Look at the Smart fortwo for example. You cannot just retro fit an airbag into any vehicle, therefore they can put in 50 airbags into the Nano but unless its body was designed with an airbag in mind...its gonna do bugger all. However, still applaud Tata for at least trying, and perhaps the 10 buck airbag was designed to work perfectly in a crash at 20km/h...who knows...or it could be a reuseale item which doubles as a pillow when you're feeling sleepy at the wheel. Airbags work best only if the vehicle’s crash performance was designed from the get-go to include them. At its core its all about the chassis’ ability to properly absorb and dissipate impact energy, and the airbags ability to deploy at a certain velocity and timing to cushion the head. Look at the Smart fortwo for example.

You cannot just retro fit an airbag into any vehicle, therefore they can put in 50 airbags into the Nano but unless its body was designed with an airbag in mind…its gonna do bugger all. However, still applaud Tata for at least trying, and perhaps the 10 buck airbag was designed to work perfectly in a crash at 20km/h…who knows…or it could be a reuseale item which doubles as a pillow when you’re feeling sleepy at the wheel.

]]> By: osh_kosh http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165555 osh_kosh Wed, 28 May 2008 01:10:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165555 azrai, as u said.. "Safety come First"... not price... history showed that cheap products normally failed to do what it supposed to do... azrai,

as u said.. “Safety come First”… not price… history showed that cheap products normally failed to do what it supposed to do…

]]> By: azrai http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165540 azrai Tue, 27 May 2008 22:54:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165540 This is a good news. Safety come first. I hope it will not be just an inflated paper bag in the steering. Even Perodua and proton can adopt this technology if it is price wise. This is a good news. Safety come first. I hope it will not be just an inflated paper bag in the steering. Even Perodua and proton can adopt this technology if it is price wise.

]]> By: Cyberkayu http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165520 Cyberkayu Tue, 27 May 2008 17:22:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165520 i m not crapping bout "Super strong glue keeps the car together instead of traditional welding techniques" http://auto.howstuffworks.com/worlds-cheapest-car1.htm i m not crapping bout “Super strong glue keeps the car together instead of traditional welding techniques”

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/worlds-cheapest-car1.htm

]]> By: Cyberkayu http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165518 Cyberkayu Tue, 27 May 2008 17:15:35 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165518 to save cost tata nano will make airballon instead of airbag~~ like they replace wielding with super glue to built a car... reli sound crazy~~ to save cost
tata nano will make airballon instead of airbag~~
like they replace wielding with super glue to built a car…
reli sound crazy~~

]]> By: mitlanevo http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165514 mitlanevo Tue, 27 May 2008 16:36:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165514 OMG, hopefully they are not using Carrefour plastic bags as the airbags.... OMG, hopefully they are not using Carrefour plastic bags as the airbags….

]]> By: ah liew http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165500 ah liew Tue, 27 May 2008 15:04:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165500 i thought the car cost $10. ha! i thought the car cost $10. ha!

]]> By: mytouch http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165495 mytouch Tue, 27 May 2008 13:44:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165495 wow...US$10 airbags...just scared if moment before any unwanted incidents occur,the driver already start to say "tata...."..... wow…US$10 airbags…just scared if moment before any unwanted incidents occur,the driver already start to say “tata….”…..

]]> By: mystvearn http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165486 mystvearn Tue, 27 May 2008 13:01:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165486 I don't think it makes any difference having airbags in that kind of car. Looks like its going to crumple anyway. Having a cushion before you hit the steering is not nice. Also, it may never come out, or too sensitive and pops up immediately I don’t think it makes any difference having airbags in that kind of car. Looks like its going to crumple anyway. Having a cushion before you hit the steering is not nice. Also, it may never come out, or too sensitive and pops up immediately

]]> By: hyundai http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165484 hyundai Tue, 27 May 2008 12:37:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165484 I would rather go for the Airbagless model... I would rather go for the Airbagless model…

]]> By: Archer http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165482 Archer Tue, 27 May 2008 12:29:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165482 Not all Airbags provide that SRS feature, some can do lots of damage may even kill when it deploys with such force. Not all Airbags provide that SRS feature, some can do lots of damage may even kill when it deploys with such force.

]]> By: szw http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165479 szw Tue, 27 May 2008 12:19:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165479 very safe... very safe…

]]> By: s60t http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165475 s60t Tue, 27 May 2008 11:54:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165475 As I mentioned in the vios forum,I had a patient last week who had a fractured sternum when his nissan sentra airbag deployed after a collision with another car which did not have airbags. The other occupant only had minor injuries.So airbags can also do harm as well as save lives. I don't think all airbags are created equal. As I mentioned in the vios forum,I had a patient last week who had a fractured sternum when his nissan sentra airbag deployed after a collision with another car which did not have airbags. The other occupant only had minor injuries.So airbags can also do harm as well as save lives. I don’t think all airbags are created equal.

]]> By: mokkf82 http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165472 mokkf82 Tue, 27 May 2008 10:51:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165472 USD 10 for an air bag? I don't think that safe enough for the driver. But hei, if we can get USD 10 for air bag here. I'll bet many driver would install one. Cause it cheap USD 10 for an air bag? I don’t think that safe enough for the driver. But hei, if we can get USD 10 for air bag here. I’ll bet many driver would install one. Cause it cheap

]]> By: jolly_idiot http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165469 jolly_idiot Tue, 27 May 2008 10:46:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165469 Having a US$10 airbag is good. It may lead to other car maker to adopt it as well. But I wonder will the airbag suddenly deployed even without hitting anything? Doubt on it's quality for being such a huge cut on it's cost. Having a US$10 airbag is good. It may lead to other car maker to adopt it as well. But I wonder will the airbag suddenly deployed even without hitting anything? Doubt on it’s quality for being such a huge cut on it’s cost.

]]> By: gajen http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165466 gajen Tue, 27 May 2008 10:35:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165466 the reason why this nano has no 'this,that' is bcos Tata built this car to replace bikes/those who cant afford a car.and bcos of that, they aimed to build the cheapest car as well.. yes i agree its not a safe car but its better than riding a bike rite, and this is definately a city car.for short trips maybe to tuition/college/shops/etc.not for highway use for sure. they can put a better airbag if they want to.i mean after all, tata has been making commercial vehicles,like the Tata Novus is the best selling commercial in south korea,but then again this was built to be the cheapest car.hehe the reason why this nano has no ‘this,that’ is bcos Tata built this car to replace bikes/those who cant afford a car.and bcos of that, they aimed to build the cheapest car as well..

yes i agree its not a safe car but its better than riding a bike rite, and this is definately a city car.for short trips maybe to tuition/college/shops/etc.not for highway use for sure.

they can put a better airbag if they want to.i mean after all, tata has been making commercial vehicles,like the Tata Novus is the best selling commercial in south korea,but then again this was built to be the cheapest car.hehe

]]> By: Poxxue2 http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165463 Poxxue2 Tue, 27 May 2008 10:26:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165463 10$ dollar airbag aye......Proton n Perodua should consider applying it to all of their variants ...bet it wouldnt incur much cost..it could be a win2 situation for both the consumers whom always looking into all these safety features, regardless whether its an entry level model ...and to the manufacturers it could definitely gives that extra advantage for considering that extra measure..in terms of sale... 10$ dollar airbag aye……Proton n Perodua should consider applying it to all of their variants …bet it wouldnt incur much cost..it could be a win2 situation for both the consumers whom always looking into all these safety features, regardless whether its an entry level model …and to the manufacturers it could definitely gives that extra advantage for considering that extra measure..in terms of sale…

]]> By: gonggok http://paultan.org/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165461 gonggok Tue, 27 May 2008 10:18:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/27/tata-nano-to-get-us10-airbag/#comment-165461 Sorry guys, there's a basic level of equipment and safety that people demand. The base Tata Nano has no AC, brake servos(!!) or even meet US/EURO safety standards. The seats don't even recline for crying out loud... Want a cheap car? Get a USED car. That's why Suzuki won't do a one lakh car... Sorry guys, there’s a basic level of equipment and safety that people demand. The base Tata Nano has no AC, brake servos(!!) or even meet US/EURO safety standards. The seats don’t even recline for crying out loud…

Want a cheap car? Get a USED car.

That’s why Suzuki won’t do a one lakh car…

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