Comments on: Does the Proton MPV have anything to do with an upcoming Chery MPV? http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:11:59 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Jie http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-167471 Jie Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:38:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-167471 What? Proton factory open on sunday? Hard to believe. What? Proton factory open on sunday? Hard to believe.

]]> By: idaho5307 http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-167317 idaho5307 Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:19:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-167317 Paul, Last Sunday went to Tg. Malim and saw a proton team testing the VW Touran. In the convoy, there were also 3 Gen-2s. All the four cars having trade plates and "Test Drive" stickers can been seen on the sides. Is the new MPV also benchmarked against the Touran? Paul,

Last Sunday went to Tg. Malim and saw a proton team testing the VW Touran. In the convoy, there were also 3 Gen-2s. All the four cars having trade plates and “Test Drive” stickers can been seen on the sides.

Is the new MPV also benchmarked against the Touran?

]]> By: Auto_crat http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-167082 Auto_crat Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:19:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-167082 If it is related to the Grandis, I'll be happy to own one, if one of those chinese mada then I'll pass. If it is related to the Grandis, I’ll be happy to own one, if one of those chinese mada then I’ll pass.

]]> By: oranglulu http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-166175 oranglulu Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:18:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-166175 ugly duckling! ugly duckling!

]]> By: pixie_wawan http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-166147 pixie_wawan Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:30:35 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-166147 four word.. UGLY.. four word.. UGLY..

]]> By: pixie_wawan http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-166146 pixie_wawan Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:30:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-166146 five word.. UNGLY.. five word.. UNGLY..

]]> By: Otromen http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-166081 Otromen Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:05:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-166081 It may have some resemblance with Mitsu Grandis http://www.budgetjamaica.com/images/grandis.jpg It may have some resemblance with Mitsu Grandis
http://www.budgetjamaica.com/images/grandis.jpg

]]> By: Realeyes http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165855 Realeyes Fri, 30 May 2008 02:57:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165855 Urgh..damn bulky.. My "wish" to have a P1 MPV that looks like a Wish, remains a wish.. Urgh..damn bulky.. My “wish” to have a P1 MPV that looks like a Wish, remains a wish..

]]> By: kingbrutal http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165841 kingbrutal Fri, 30 May 2008 01:13:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165841 I don't know what the fuss is all about, this is only a sketch. It might be just an initial design by one of designer for all we know. Maybe Proton just wanna see our reaction or put off any spy shots of the actual car being identified as the real thing. If we wait until a few months before the launch, maybe we could see the usual covered up model running around. Before that, lets not jumped to any conclusion. BTW, I was told by a friend (whom I would not disclose) that this MPV actually is a JV between Proton and Honda. So maybe there is more Honda influence here than we thought initially. Lets all wait for the launch shall we.. :) I don’t know what the fuss is all about, this is only a sketch. It might be just an initial design by one of designer for all we know. Maybe Proton just wanna see our reaction or put off any spy shots of the actual car being identified as the real thing. If we wait until a few months before the launch, maybe we could see the usual covered up model running around. Before that, lets not jumped to any conclusion.

BTW, I was told by a friend (whom I would not disclose) that this MPV actually is a JV between Proton and Honda. So maybe there is more Honda influence here than we thought initially.

Lets all wait for the launch shall we.. :)

]]> By: BanyakMasukWorkshop http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165831 BanyakMasukWorkshop Fri, 30 May 2008 00:20:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165831 unlike the avanza/innova which are based on basic "truck/van" type platforms, I believe this proton mpv will be based on a proper car-like monocoque platform ala wish, stream, grand livina..etc. This should point towards car-like ride and handling as apposed to something thats akin to a small van or truck. besides that, i dont think proton taking anything from china at the moment, they're too busy selling them stuff right now. unlike the avanza/innova which are based on basic “truck/van” type platforms, I believe this proton mpv will be based on a proper car-like monocoque platform ala wish, stream, grand livina..etc. This should point towards car-like ride and handling as apposed to something thats akin to a small van or truck.

besides that, i dont think proton taking anything from china at the moment, they’re too busy selling them stuff right now.

]]> By: junky_man http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165810 junky_man Thu, 29 May 2008 15:22:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165810 Nahar ARS is my collegue! We're in crunch time and he has time to scoop up pictures for paul tan? :P Nahar ARS is my collegue! We’re in crunch time and he has time to scoop up pictures for paul tan? :P

]]> By: kedaikopi http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165808 kedaikopi Thu, 29 May 2008 15:06:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165808 maaf saya tidak fasih berbahasa inggeris. saya dah ikuti paultan.org ni setahun. banyak info mengenai keluaran kereta-kereta terbaru yang saya peroleh. mengenai isu Proton MPV, saya harap Proton dapat meningkatkan lagi prestasi di dalam menghasilkan kenderaan yang berkualiti dan selamat, selain menampilkan rekabentuk yang dapat menarik minat rakyat malaysia. saya mendapat maklumat bahawa Proton akan membangunkan model enjin terbarunya yang dinamakan N.E.F atau New Engine Family yang mampu menjana enjin 2000 hingga 3000 cc. adakah ia akan dibangunkan bagi model MPV? saya pun tidak pasti. sama-sama kita tunggu... maaf saya tidak fasih berbahasa inggeris. saya dah ikuti paultan.org ni setahun. banyak info mengenai keluaran kereta-kereta terbaru yang saya peroleh. mengenai isu Proton MPV, saya harap Proton dapat meningkatkan lagi prestasi di dalam menghasilkan kenderaan yang berkualiti dan selamat, selain menampilkan rekabentuk yang dapat menarik minat rakyat malaysia. saya mendapat maklumat bahawa Proton akan membangunkan model enjin terbarunya yang dinamakan N.E.F atau New Engine Family yang mampu menjana enjin 2000 hingga 3000 cc. adakah ia akan dibangunkan bagi model MPV? saya pun tidak pasti. sama-sama kita tunggu…

]]> By: fliedlice http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165807 fliedlice Thu, 29 May 2008 15:01:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165807 hi guys, I used to work in the automotive industry until recently, and I know for a fact that the proton mpv design is not related to the chery design. it's their own design. hi guys,

I used to work in the automotive industry until recently, and I know for a fact that the proton mpv design is not related to the chery design. it’s their own design.

]]> By: s http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165803 s Thu, 29 May 2008 14:53:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165803 malaysian designer is better than cherry designer i think, so hopefully p1 mpv much much 'macho' than that ugly cherry... malaysian designer is better than cherry designer i think, so hopefully p1 mpv much much ‘macho’ than that ugly cherry…

]]> By: hazremi http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165800 hazremi Thu, 29 May 2008 14:15:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165800 Pray that this will be a proper proton car from ground up and not some taking of other people’s ideas and making it yours. Juara was not supposed to roam on our roads…(no offence to Juara owners) I think everyone following the avanza/innova design. If can make something like that, will be fine. _______________________________________ Maybe you can say that to Perodua Pray that this will be a proper proton car from ground up and not some taking of other people’s ideas and making it yours. Juara was not supposed to roam on our roads…(no offence to Juara owners)
I think everyone following the avanza/innova design. If can make something like that, will be fine.
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Maybe you can say that to Perodua

]]> By: mitlanevo http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165797 mitlanevo Thu, 29 May 2008 13:01:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165797 thanks for the update.... ended the temporary nightmare, lol~ thanks for the update…. ended the temporary nightmare, lol~

]]> By: ah liew http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165796 ah liew Thu, 29 May 2008 12:52:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165796 damn ugly.... damn ugly….

]]> By: arie1968 http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165795 arie1968 Thu, 29 May 2008 12:28:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165795 i think it's fresh model from p1. make it happen p1. it's just said can fix with 7 adult. we will see..... malaysian designer not bad at all. i think it’s fresh model from p1. make it happen p1.
it’s just said can fix with 7 adult. we will see…..
malaysian designer not bad at all.

]]> By: mystvearn http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165792 mystvearn Thu, 29 May 2008 12:17:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165792 Pray that this will be a proper proton car from ground up and not some taking of other people's ideas and making it yours. Juara was not supposed to roam on our roads...(no offence to Juara owners) I think everyone following the avanza/innova design. If can make something like that, will be fine. Pray that this will be a proper proton car from ground up and not some taking of other people’s ideas and making it yours. Juara was not supposed to roam on our roads…(no offence to Juara owners)
I think everyone following the avanza/innova design. If can make something like that, will be fine.

]]> By: ... http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165775 ... Thu, 29 May 2008 08:48:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165775 Paul, Please post up the pics of the real Chery V5 aka Chery B240 sold by alado. http://paultan.org/archives/2007/07/02/chery-b240-7-seater-mpv-in-malaysia/ http://paultan.org/archives/2006/07/02/chery-v5-crossover-chery-b14-mpv/ then we can compare Paul,

Please post up the pics of the real Chery V5 aka Chery B240 sold by alado.

http://paultan.org/archives/2007/07/02/chery-b240-7-seater-mpv-in-malaysia/

http://paultan.org/archives/2006/07/02/chery-v5-crossover-chery-b14-mpv/

then we can compare

]]> By: trustgtr http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165773 trustgtr Thu, 29 May 2008 08:22:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165773 i hope proton products won't be technically connected to any china manufacturers just yet.. i hope proton products won’t be technically connected to any china manufacturers just yet..

]]> By: ilmondo http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165765 ilmondo Thu, 29 May 2008 06:47:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165765 thank god! lol.. yea.. as a car fan.. i thank god as i dont really wish the new MPV to be sharing anything with Chery.. we all know that the chinese are coming up really fast.. but as a car fan.. haha.. not a good idea to me.. but from a businessman POV, P1 + Chery may not be a bad thing.. too bad i'm not a businessman.. :P really hoping for proton + lotus magic ere.. with logic of jap midi MPV.. cheers! thank god!

lol.. yea.. as a car fan.. i thank god as i dont really wish the new MPV to be sharing anything with Chery.. we all know that the chinese are coming up really fast.. but as a car fan.. haha.. not a good idea to me..

but from a businessman POV, P1 + Chery may not be a bad thing..

too bad i’m not a businessman.. :P

really hoping for proton + lotus magic ere.. with logic of jap midi MPV..

cheers!

]]> By: farghmee http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165764 farghmee Thu, 29 May 2008 06:40:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165764 btw, where can i get the footage during the blm launching at klcc? some1 said that earlier model of the mpv was included in the footage?? btw, where can i get the footage during the blm launching at klcc?
some1 said that earlier model of the mpv was included in the footage??

]]> By: Paul Tan http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165762 Paul Tan Thu, 29 May 2008 06:35:13 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165762 <strong>Please read the updated part of the story...</strong> Please read the updated part of the story…

]]> By: kei9 http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165761 kei9 Thu, 29 May 2008 06:34:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165761 LOL finally someone knew ;) LOL finally someone knew ;)

]]> By: kei9 http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165759 kei9 Thu, 29 May 2008 06:29:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165759 Pergh.. i don't belive a bit :) Pergh.. i don’t belive a bit :)

]]> By: mitlanevo http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165751 mitlanevo Thu, 29 May 2008 05:19:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165751 no!!! we don't want Chery.......!!!!!!! Stream, Wish, Mazda 5, Grandis at least better designed, and more reliable than those made-in-China 'toy car'...... no!!! we don’t want Chery…….!!!!!!!

Stream, Wish, Mazda 5, Grandis at least better designed, and more reliable than those made-in-China ‘toy car’……

]]> By: shamel http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165748 shamel Thu, 29 May 2008 05:14:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165748 Cheaper to use Chery mule BUT how about perception? Stream-Wish is the benchmark for midi mpv NOT the Chinese version of (ugly) mpv, cut-and-paste of sort! How about Mazda5-ish design? You guys can accept? Cheaper to use Chery mule BUT how about perception? Stream-Wish is the benchmark for midi mpv NOT the Chinese version of (ugly) mpv, cut-and-paste of sort!

How about Mazda5-ish design? You guys can accept?

]]> By: ynnad http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165738 ynnad Thu, 29 May 2008 04:27:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165738 I have doubts on the use of the Chery V5... any reason for Proton to purposely put in a fake picture like this as a means of FUD for marketing purposes? Earlier test mules were using the Wish platform. If the MPV was going to be based onthe Chery V5, the test mules would have been on the Chery and not the Wish. at least procuring the Chery V5 test mules would be alot cheaper than the Wish. I have doubts on the use of the Chery V5…

any reason for Proton to purposely put in a fake picture like this as a means of FUD for marketing purposes?

Earlier test mules were using the Wish platform. If the MPV was going to be based onthe Chery V5, the test mules would have been on the Chery and not the Wish. at least procuring the Chery V5 test mules would be alot cheaper than the Wish.

]]> By: n8cky http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165729 n8cky Thu, 29 May 2008 03:18:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/29/does-the-proton-mpv-have-anything-to-do-with-an-upcoming-chery-mpv/#comment-165729 Kinda Bulky, i tot p1 was doing a medium sized?like stream/wish?from wat i saw from Cherry, it looks like a bigger sized MPV like Naza Ria, can the CPS move it?I guess they tested the cam-pro in wish to climb the genting (somehow i saw a badgeless, ugly wish, smaller rim, so i persume it was a test drove from proton?) From sketches, the rear looks more like Grand Livina, the front maybe wish? But from my personal feeling i will say that the Cherry, if they're using 1.8 cam, the width will be narrower from the back. And definitely they need to make it lower to match the stream-line.The driver over head roof top is too tall, makes it look more bulky, feel slow, and unsafety. Kinda Bulky, i tot p1 was doing a medium sized?like stream/wish?from wat i saw from Cherry, it looks like a bigger sized MPV like Naza Ria, can the CPS move it?I guess they tested the cam-pro in wish to climb the genting (somehow i saw a badgeless, ugly wish, smaller rim, so i persume it was a test drove from proton?)
From sketches, the rear looks more like Grand Livina, the front maybe wish?
But from my personal feeling i will say that the Cherry, if they’re using 1.8 cam, the width will be narrower from the back. And definitely they need to make it lower to match the stream-line.The driver over head roof top is too tall, makes it look more bulky, feel slow, and unsafety.

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