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	<title>Comments on: Grand Saga highway barrier is a fuel guzzler!</title>
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		<title>By: abe</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-166347</link>
		<dc:creator>abe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what</description>
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		<title>By: abe</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-166345</link>
		<dc:creator>abe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hk_loo said,

May 29, 2008 @ 11:35 am

This company must be belong to one of the UMNO â€¦ so Federal Governemnt refuse to speak up â€¦ 

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actually kerajaan negeri selangor ada share dlm grand saga. sbb tu la gomen uat diam je. buat bodo je.

dlm kes nie , apa yg saya tahu. grand saga boleh bukak jalan dgn syarat narajaya kena bayar ganti rugi.

kenapa ? dari apa yg saya tahu ,
sebab grand saga yg buat dulu highway, narajaya kemudian. pendapat saya , klu bicara di  mahkamah saya rasa grand saga akan menang juga dan narajaya kena bayar gantirugi.

mungkin penduduk bmc pun kena push jugak si narajaya ni. takkan ganyang grand saga je. sekarang ni aku nampak penduduk BMC pulak yang buat keje utk narajaya. ada share ke? 

Klu narajaya buat rumah dulu, grand saga memang kena buat exit ke tmn BMC.

 sekian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hk_loo said,</p>
<p>May 29, 2008 @ 11:35 am</p>
<p>This company must be belong to one of the UMNO â€¦ so Federal Governemnt refuse to speak up â€¦ </p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
actually kerajaan negeri selangor ada share dlm grand saga. sbb tu la gomen uat diam je. buat bodo je.</p>
<p>dlm kes nie , apa yg saya tahu. grand saga boleh bukak jalan dgn syarat narajaya kena bayar ganti rugi.</p>
<p>kenapa ? dari apa yg saya tahu ,<br />
sebab grand saga yg buat dulu highway, narajaya kemudian. pendapat saya , klu bicara di  mahkamah saya rasa grand saga akan menang juga dan narajaya kena bayar gantirugi.</p>
<p>mungkin penduduk bmc pun kena push jugak si narajaya ni. takkan ganyang grand saga je. sekarang ni aku nampak penduduk BMC pulak yang buat keje utk narajaya. ada share ke? </p>
<p>Klu narajaya buat rumah dulu, grand saga memang kena buat exit ke tmn BMC.</p>
<p> sekian</p>
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		<title>By: 9166</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-166040</link>
		<dc:creator>9166</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 22:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best Idea so far. No cash subsidies. Many indicated that will be sold. Don&#039;t worry, the top people will come up with an idea / excuse to sapu the money even before it reaches the people la. 

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RX-ate said,
May 31, 2008 @ 1:07 pm 

I think the best solution for the govn is to do away with the high car taxes in Malaysia and remove the fuel subsidy at the same time. That way, a salary man will not have to carry the burden of paying so much tax for a car and paying high prices for fuel at the same time.

It would also give the govn less headache of working out a suitable subsidy plan. I believe this is a win- win situation for both parties. 

What do u think??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best Idea so far. No cash subsidies. Many indicated that will be sold. Don&#8217;t worry, the top people will come up with an idea / excuse to sapu the money even before it reaches the people la. </p>
<p>==========<br />
RX-ate said,<br />
May 31, 2008 @ 1:07 pm </p>
<p>I think the best solution for the govn is to do away with the high car taxes in Malaysia and remove the fuel subsidy at the same time. That way, a salary man will not have to carry the burden of paying so much tax for a car and paying high prices for fuel at the same time.</p>
<p>It would also give the govn less headache of working out a suitable subsidy plan. I believe this is a win- win situation for both parties. </p>
<p>What do u think??</p>
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		<title>By: najibest</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165997</link>
		<dc:creator>najibest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 06:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as far as i&#039;m concerned, toll roads are suppose to be an alternative for residents, not the MAIN road. if there&#039;s an alternative for BMC residents to go to KL without paying toll, then i don&#039;t care if Grand Saga would like to contest that they&#039;re losing money. but now BMC residents have no other options. so pretty much they&#039;re forced to pay toll no matter what as the government are not providing them with an alternative road. 

knowing that the Selangor State Govt has substantial share in Grand Saga, i wonder if the Kajang Municipal council approved the plan to build BMC knowing that there&#039;s no options for BMC residents going to KL without paying toll so that they can fill the state coffers from the toll collection as pretty much, almost all highways in Malaysia are profitable due to the lopsided that favors the concessionaires to the Rakyat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as far as i&#8217;m concerned, toll roads are suppose to be an alternative for residents, not the MAIN road. if there&#8217;s an alternative for BMC residents to go to KL without paying toll, then i don&#8217;t care if Grand Saga would like to contest that they&#8217;re losing money. but now BMC residents have no other options. so pretty much they&#8217;re forced to pay toll no matter what as the government are not providing them with an alternative road. </p>
<p>knowing that the Selangor State Govt has substantial share in Grand Saga, i wonder if the Kajang Municipal council approved the plan to build BMC knowing that there&#8217;s no options for BMC residents going to KL without paying toll so that they can fill the state coffers from the toll collection as pretty much, almost all highways in Malaysia are profitable due to the lopsided that favors the concessionaires to the Rakyat</p>
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		<title>By: osh_kosh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165940</link>
		<dc:creator>osh_kosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the barricade had been removed... until?? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the barricade had been removed&#8230; until?? <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dr_carz</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165911</link>
		<dc:creator>dr_carz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 13:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>problem settel already</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>problem settel already</p>
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		<title>By: dr_carz</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165869</link>
		<dc:creator>dr_carz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 04:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the selangor govt has shares in the company! 

refer to the star today...

the rest i dont know...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the selangor govt has shares in the company! </p>
<p>refer to the star today&#8230;</p>
<p>the rest i dont know&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: I my</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165846</link>
		<dc:creator>I my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 01:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the ppl now is worst then the Taiwan&#039;s Ah Pian!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the ppl now is worst then the Taiwan&#8217;s Ah Pian!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ys</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165809</link>
		<dc:creator>ys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 15:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh dear.. just pitty those living at BMC.
folks, do u think our G learn something from this incident? lets pray hard if they do learn......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh dear.. just pitty those living at BMC.<br />
folks, do u think our G learn something from this incident? lets pray hard if they do learn&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 4G63T DSM</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165805</link>
		<dc:creator>4G63T DSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 14:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One day? They have been using ISA against bloggers for years now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One day? They have been using ISA against bloggers for years now.</p>
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		<title>By: transformer</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165801</link>
		<dc:creator>transformer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 14:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just feel sad reading this news from today newspaper!

What should a Gov do for the sake of rakyat or their own pocket ?
What are the responsibility of Police ?
Aren&#039;t they(Police) should protect rakyat ?
Then who the hell FRU(Fed. Resvp. Unit) should protect ?

In today newspaper also mentioned that Gov would take action on bloggers!

So will Gov use ISA at blogger oneday...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just feel sad reading this news from today newspaper!</p>
<p>What should a Gov do for the sake of rakyat or their own pocket ?<br />
What are the responsibility of Police ?<br />
Aren&#8217;t they(Police) should protect rakyat ?<br />
Then who the hell FRU(Fed. Resvp. Unit) should protect ?</p>
<p>In today newspaper also mentioned that Gov would take action on bloggers!</p>
<p>So will Gov use ISA at blogger oneday&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: orangetribal</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165789</link>
		<dc:creator>orangetribal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 12:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello syoh
&quot;Also, it seems like the â€œBandar Mahkota Cherasâ€ have been used politically by the oppositions to gain public interest.&quot;.&quot;It seems like most of us are being too emotionally overwhelm with this issues causing our reasonings ability to be affected too&quot;

you&#039;re contradicting of wht u just said by saying our reasonings ability has been affected,while you left an obnoxious comment like the opposition being still PR. first of all the opposition is no more PR and is now BN and I dont see a reason why BN would want to gain public interest when this scumbags go on digging the rakyats gold in the form of toll collection.And thats my 2ringgit and 10sen(after paying 90sen fer the toll) =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello syoh<br />
&#8220;Also, it seems like the â€œBandar Mahkota Cherasâ€ have been used politically by the oppositions to gain public interest.&#8221;.&#8221;It seems like most of us are being too emotionally overwhelm with this issues causing our reasonings ability to be affected too&#8221;</p>
<p>you&#8217;re contradicting of wht u just said by saying our reasonings ability has been affected,while you left an obnoxious comment like the opposition being still PR. first of all the opposition is no more PR and is now BN and I dont see a reason why BN would want to gain public interest when this scumbags go on digging the rakyats gold in the form of toll collection.And thats my 2ringgit and 10sen(after paying 90sen fer the toll) =)</p>
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		<title>By: SY0H</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165788</link>
		<dc:creator>SY0H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 11:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear All,

It seems like most of us are being too emotionally overwhelm with this issues causing our reasonings ability to be affected too. Personally I know some &quot;gangsters&quot; in KL and Selangor, they&#039;re actually decent people (just like us) at the day and night time transform into something else. They will not be easily provoke unless the Bandar Mahkota Cheras folks did something first (maybe they are the ones who fired the first shot). I&#039;m not a &quot;gangster&quot; supporter but I don&#039;t want to be biased in the way I think as well. Also, it seems like the &quot;Bandar Mahkota Cheras&quot; have been used politically by the oppositions to gain public interest. The best thing people could do in here is to speculate rather than to get the facts straights. So far PaulTan&#039;s research shows the main reasons why the &quot;penduduk&quot; at that particular area &quot;mengamuk&quot;. Then again what &quot;git70&quot; said on May 29, 2008 @ 5:46 pm could be true as well. The road might be jam packed if they remove the barricade. I believe Malaysians are clever enough to settle things on the table rather than &quot;throwing&quot; it around. As usual, this is just my 2 ringgit and 45 cents (after rounding up).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear All,</p>
<p>It seems like most of us are being too emotionally overwhelm with this issues causing our reasonings ability to be affected too. Personally I know some &#8220;gangsters&#8221; in KL and Selangor, they&#8217;re actually decent people (just like us) at the day and night time transform into something else. They will not be easily provoke unless the Bandar Mahkota Cheras folks did something first (maybe they are the ones who fired the first shot). I&#8217;m not a &#8220;gangster&#8221; supporter but I don&#8217;t want to be biased in the way I think as well. Also, it seems like the &#8220;Bandar Mahkota Cheras&#8221; have been used politically by the oppositions to gain public interest. The best thing people could do in here is to speculate rather than to get the facts straights. So far PaulTan&#8217;s research shows the main reasons why the &#8220;penduduk&#8221; at that particular area &#8220;mengamuk&#8221;. Then again what &#8220;git70&#8243; said on May 29, 2008 @ 5:46 pm could be true as well. The road might be jam packed if they remove the barricade. I believe Malaysians are clever enough to settle things on the table rather than &#8220;throwing&#8221; it around. As usual, this is just my 2 ringgit and 45 cents (after rounding up).</p>
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		<title>By: Roti Naan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165787</link>
		<dc:creator>Roti Naan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 11:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all these Huh-Hahh are all caused by MONEY and GREED, and the Grand Sage mentioned the blockage was primarily for the sake of safety among road users.

Yeah, rite......and elephant can fly aeroplane...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all these Huh-Hahh are all caused by MONEY and GREED, and the Grand Sage mentioned the blockage was primarily for the sake of safety among road users.</p>
<p>Yeah, rite&#8230;&#8230;and elephant can fly aeroplane&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: NiceCar</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165786</link>
		<dc:creator>NiceCar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 11:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the president of the GS is our ex polices head de... if not mistake.. that why police aat the first state also try to help GS but not resident there..
even some residents been hit by ganaster, they just ignore, besides, they block resident to damages the road block.... WTF!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the president of the GS is our ex polices head de&#8230; if not mistake.. that why police aat the first state also try to help GS but not resident there..<br />
even some residents been hit by ganaster, they just ignore, besides, they block resident to damages the road block&#8230;. WTF!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: git70</title>
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		<dc:creator>git70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 09:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

I may be wrong as I am not familiar with the area, but looking at the map, if this new access road is opened, couldn&#039;t it be used by the KL-Cheras highway users to get onto the Silk highway without going through the Batu 11 toll? If this is true, then Grand Saga stands to lose a lot more than the toll collection from the Bandar Mahkota folks alone. 

If many people start doing this, isn&#039;t it possible that this road will become congested and result in even more fuel being wasted? Just look at the jam on the toll free road in front of Siemens next to the Sprint highway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>I may be wrong as I am not familiar with the area, but looking at the map, if this new access road is opened, couldn&#8217;t it be used by the KL-Cheras highway users to get onto the Silk highway without going through the Batu 11 toll? If this is true, then Grand Saga stands to lose a lot more than the toll collection from the Bandar Mahkota folks alone. </p>
<p>If many people start doing this, isn&#8217;t it possible that this road will become congested and result in even more fuel being wasted? Just look at the jam on the toll free road in front of Siemens next to the Sprint highway.</p>
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		<title>By: adil2008</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165778</link>
		<dc:creator>adil2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 09:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awak tak pilih, saya tak kerja lar. 
we suppot the residence of BMC, dont let the those &quot;jahanam&quot; to block the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awak tak pilih, saya tak kerja lar.<br />
we suppot the residence of BMC, dont let the those &#8220;jahanam&#8221; to block the road.</p>
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		<title>By: I my</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165763</link>
		<dc:creator>I my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 06:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also now I know what mode the â€œTerroristâ€. when u been chock to the max &amp; no one care about it.... this the only way out??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also now I know what mode the â€œTerroristâ€. when u been chock to the max &amp; no one care about it&#8230;. this the only way out??</p>
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		<title>By: king</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165756</link>
		<dc:creator>king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 05:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shenzutong said,

3. The MSM reported that Grand Saga operator has engaged thugs who carried dangerous weapons in order to prevent Mahkota residents from stopping the workers in constructing the barricade on Monday and these thugs have taken the law in their own hands by beating up the innocent by-standers and passers by, damaging vehicles parking nearby, while the policemen nearby did not take any actions. So who are these thugs? Who are their real identity? Have the police acted swiftly and detained these thugs for questioning and charged them for using dangerous weapons as well as man slaughter? Have the Selangor PR leaders made police report regarding this frightening act by Grand Saga? What is the connection between Zainal Abidin, the ED of Grand Saga, the former Dang Wangi Police Chief and these thugs? What is the police stand in this case? Syed Hamid, police is under your control, and please donâ€™t stay quiet, can you please investigate the Selangor CPO and Kajang OCPD regarding the above and explain it in the Parliament?

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must be the mat rempit lar...cos the report said they used sticks and helmets</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shenzutong said,</p>
<p>3. The MSM reported that Grand Saga operator has engaged thugs who carried dangerous weapons in order to prevent Mahkota residents from stopping the workers in constructing the barricade on Monday and these thugs have taken the law in their own hands by beating up the innocent by-standers and passers by, damaging vehicles parking nearby, while the policemen nearby did not take any actions. So who are these thugs? Who are their real identity? Have the police acted swiftly and detained these thugs for questioning and charged them for using dangerous weapons as well as man slaughter? Have the Selangor PR leaders made police report regarding this frightening act by Grand Saga? What is the connection between Zainal Abidin, the ED of Grand Saga, the former Dang Wangi Police Chief and these thugs? What is the police stand in this case? Syed Hamid, police is under your control, and please donâ€™t stay quiet, can you please investigate the Selangor CPO and Kajang OCPD regarding the above and explain it in the Parliament?</p>
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<p>must be the mat rempit lar&#8230;cos the report said they used sticks and helmets</p>
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		<title>By: topgunthang</title>
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		<dc:creator>topgunthang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 05:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very serious allegations on point 3 by shen. police stand by while thugs beat up innocent people with weapons? 
where is the respect that policemen want as well as humanity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very serious allegations on point 3 by shen. police stand by while thugs beat up innocent people with weapons?<br />
where is the respect that policemen want as well as humanity?</p>
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		<title>By: blaze</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165741</link>
		<dc:creator>blaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 04:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on sir..... This is only one of the example about the g saying one thing, but doing by the opposite.... Asked us to reduce energy usage, but then re-route us so ppl have to travel futher and pay more toll.. Traffic lights at every junction with very bad timings and sequence.. etc.

Other countries have to pay congestion charges, but for ppl in Bolehland, u pay and still the road is congested...(at the toll plaza!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on sir&#8230;.. This is only one of the example about the g saying one thing, but doing by the opposite&#8230;. Asked us to reduce energy usage, but then re-route us so ppl have to travel futher and pay more toll.. Traffic lights at every junction with very bad timings and sequence.. etc.</p>
<p>Other countries have to pay congestion charges, but for ppl in Bolehland, u pay and still the road is congested&#8230;(at the toll plaza!!)</p>
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		<title>By: I my</title>
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		<dc:creator>I my</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 04:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont think the G(BN) will do any thing about this issue, look who r the boss &amp; Directors in the company???!!! 

Soon or later we will see &quot;Terrorist&quot; or &quot;The &quot;France revolution&quot; in Malaysia to bomb or to chop all the Con man head off. I think we really need this movement to clean out a the dirt in the longkong!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont think the G(BN) will do any thing about this issue, look who r the boss &amp; Directors in the company???!!! </p>
<p>Soon or later we will see &#8220;Terrorist&#8221; or &#8220;The &#8220;France revolution&#8221; in Malaysia to bomb or to chop all the Con man head off. I think we really need this movement to clean out a the dirt in the longkong!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: hk_loo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165733</link>
		<dc:creator>hk_loo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 03:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This company must be belong to one of the UMNO ... so Federal Governemnt refuse to speak up ... and send mat rempit to beat those rakyat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This company must be belong to one of the UMNO &#8230; so Federal Governemnt refuse to speak up &#8230; and send mat rempit to beat those rakyat.</p>
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		<title>By: Roti Naan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165730</link>
		<dc:creator>Roti Naan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 03:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>most frustrating abt this damn toll is you still get stuck in the traffic jam after you pay toll.  WTF!?

Try going thru this toll/section of the road from 6-9 in the morning....and you&#039;ll understand the frustration of the rakyat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>most frustrating abt this damn toll is you still get stuck in the traffic jam after you pay toll.  WTF!?</p>
<p>Try going thru this toll/section of the road from 6-9 in the morning&#8230;.and you&#8217;ll understand the frustration of the rakyat.</p>
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		<title>By: paxter</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165726</link>
		<dc:creator>paxter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 03:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>urm to be fair, grand saga highway should take the brunt of the bashing here, the new state gov and even the police are on the side of the people in bandar mahkota.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>urm to be fair, grand saga highway should take the brunt of the bashing here, the new state gov and even the police are on the side of the people in bandar mahkota.</p>
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		<title>By: rexis</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165720</link>
		<dc:creator>rexis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 02:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone confirm my calculation? BMC residents alone contributed at least RM50millions to a single grand saga toll yearly?

No wonder GS die trying to block the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone confirm my calculation? BMC residents alone contributed at least RM50millions to a single grand saga toll yearly?</p>
<p>No wonder GS die trying to block the road.</p>
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		<title>By: rexis</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165719</link>
		<dc:creator>rexis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 02:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even paultan.org has coverage on this news.

Good calculation Paul. Expanding from your calculation:

345,600litres subsidy wasted per 1000 vehicles per year.

@RM1.92/litre it will be:
345,600 litres x 38(thousands families) x RM1.92 = RM25,214,976 fuel wasted yearly. O.o

Ohh and also, if you want to go a step further:
all of they shouldn&#039;t pay tolls at all if it is proven that GS has no right to block the road
38,000cars x RM0.90 x 2 x 265days = RM24,966,000 wasted at tolls yearly.

And that is just assuming your car is at 8kmpl and each families only has one car and you only go thru the batu 11 toll twice daily.

Most families in KL has more then one car. 

And the road has been blocked for 2.5 years... which give us a rough figure about how much compensation we need to ask for when we trying to sue them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even paultan.org has coverage on this news.</p>
<p>Good calculation Paul. Expanding from your calculation:</p>
<p>345,600litres subsidy wasted per 1000 vehicles per year.</p>
<p>@RM1.92/litre it will be:<br />
345,600 litres x 38(thousands families) x RM1.92 = RM25,214,976 fuel wasted yearly. O.o</p>
<p>Ohh and also, if you want to go a step further:<br />
all of they shouldn&#8217;t pay tolls at all if it is proven that GS has no right to block the road<br />
38,000cars x RM0.90 x 2 x 265days = RM24,966,000 wasted at tolls yearly.</p>
<p>And that is just assuming your car is at 8kmpl and each families only has one car and you only go thru the batu 11 toll twice daily.</p>
<p>Most families in KL has more then one car. </p>
<p>And the road has been blocked for 2.5 years&#8230; which give us a rough figure about how much compensation we need to ask for when we trying to sue them.</p>
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		<title>By: jo_crv</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165715</link>
		<dc:creator>jo_crv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 01:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, weldone men. It really explorer me and from other point of view. Thanks.

Anyhow, Left and Right also goes into same pocket, who care about Rakyat...as long have $$$ to get big house / car / full with cash than early retired. (Sorry to be too negative)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, weldone men. It really explorer me and from other point of view. Thanks.</p>
<p>Anyhow, Left and Right also goes into same pocket, who care about Rakyat&#8230;as long have $$$ to get big house / car / full with cash than early retired. (Sorry to be too negative)</p>
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		<title>By: mytouch</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165714</link>
		<dc:creator>mytouch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 01:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Menteri Krja Rya should be shameful with himself,as he never show up &amp; make any positive comments to help the rakyat,as far as we known.Brutally betan up the rakyat,let those gangster ran riot,is this the best way to appreciate &amp; treat the rakyat,who pays taxes to feed their big fat salary?&amp; what make us sad is we even havent see the PM or DPM comment on this issue,&amp; take legal action on those morron who beaten the rakyat...what have happen to our country?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Menteri Krja Rya should be shameful with himself,as he never show up &amp; make any positive comments to help the rakyat,as far as we known.Brutally betan up the rakyat,let those gangster ran riot,is this the best way to appreciate &amp; treat the rakyat,who pays taxes to feed their big fat salary?&amp; what make us sad is we even havent see the PM or DPM comment on this issue,&amp; take legal action on those morron who beaten the rakyat&#8230;what have happen to our country?</p>
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		<title>By: raverus</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/05/29/grand-saga-highway-barrier-is-a-fuel-guzzler/#comment-165713</link>
		<dc:creator>raverus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 01:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to G, the rakyat are robbed in the daylight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to G, the rakyat are robbed in the daylight!</p>
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