LETS LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE G IS OFFERING THEN WE COMMENT ! OK…………..

this method will need less man power enforcement at kastam at boarder only.

increase to 4000/month should do better..

Car registered under Company: Patrol reduce from Company Tax, it also transfer the patrol price to consumer as well. It become Rich people more rich. And “G” lost as well.

Perhaps “G” shall fixed the patrol price across everyone and also reduce the income tax rate from 28 to 27% or even lower, than increase the RM2400 to RM3600 or higher not require to pay tax. Some more what the % of people who income lowers than RM2400 own the car and used it frequently?

If implement those so call card system, it eventually with become a victim for crime. Without car it means you are in middle or higher end people.
If implementing on MYCARD, you bank or Tax info with knowing by someone who have the reader in hand
If implementing base on car modal, this will even good. Believe majority here do notice that some M’sia make car eventually didn’t equip with original type of engine. Example: A Kancil could is having Turbo DOHC engine, so will this consider as what Cc? Car been modified to racing, with they consuming less Patrol than rest?

I was thinking all M’sian all the same & shall treat all equivalent not matter you are race are, just fixed the standard across like other country as believe we didn’t want to be a victim for crime.

So I say free market. Actual fuel prices and actual motor vehicle prices. Road taxes absorbed by fuel companies. More people can afford hybrids, and of course more hybrid models.

but also be fair to who already sacrifice buying house long way from KL due to lower price of the property.. people like me staying in shah alam (puncak alam) but working at KL.. use more oil than those who stay at bangsar..because we can’t afford to have house at bangsar or KL nearby

Now the price is 1.92 for RON 97. Slowly decrease the amount of subsidy over a period of time. For example, the subsidy decreases by 5 sen every month. This month, a liter costs 1.92, next month, it will be 1.97, then 2.02 and so on. Until we reach market price. This gives a clear time and direction to everybody. There will be less market reaction panic and it gives sufficient time to everyone to adapt.

Since no new infrastructure (ex. mycard reader’s kiosk) is involved, there is also no wastage when they are no longer needed once the price reaches market prices.

By the way, not selling the subsidized fuel to foreigner should be implemented immediately. No compromises on that.

Therefore, those low income group can benefit from the arrangement.

The petrol station owner will purchase the fuel from the deport for unsubsidized price…

Then the customer will come to the petrol station…swept the subsidy card and pay based on the subsidized price..

In this case…the burden will be felt most by the petrol station owner…for they have to spare a lot of money to purchase the unsubsidized fuel..only to collect lesser for the fuel purchased by their customer based on subsidized price..

of course the government gonna pay back latter to them…but this will only increase their working capital..

i think it is better for the government to pay cash directly to the citizen..in this case it will be fair to everybody…

If you based the subsidy on road tax, then there might be somebody who renew road tax of their “already scrap-metal” car just to get the money. So they might need to bring the car to JPJ. And we would also need to limit one claim per person regardless of the car they own.

osh_kosh’s proposal would cost some money, and would take modification and time to implement.

I would propose linking the subsidy to our income tax. I had put in in more details in my blog at pencadang dot blogspot dot com

my 2 sen.

(1) Cut the Bleeding Arm
The quick fix for all the petrol smugglings, inappropriate consumptions, & you-name-it ..etc. : START SELLING AT NON-SUBSIDIZED PRICES. PERIOD. Don’t curse me yet. We need stern policy to get things right top-down. Do it the decisive way. Clean cut, bukan soap opera. (OK, enough). WIth this, lots of administrative works of government will be reduced too, not only the subsidies to those non-entitling parties (sorry to my Singaporean friends loh).
Brilliant right? Now Malaysians will finally realise petrols are precioius. Wastage will be reduced naturally. Probably Malaysians will be more healthy, walk more drive less mah.

(2) Rewards and Penalties
When (1) is implemented, lower income people with own transports will be affected, immediately. To solve this problem of short-term shock, a immediate subsidy should be provided to those entitling vehicle owners directly, eg. Check , direct bank-in, and etc. Comon, you know where to send the Speeding Ticket, then you should know where to send us the moneyyy. JPJ have our records, IRD have our records, blah blah blah. Of course, a careful formula need to be worked out on deciding what type of vehicles entitling to what amount of subsidies. And I do suggest 2.0L and above, get Zero subsidy. 3.0L and above, get to pay additional for Luxury Tax. (or even make it illegal to own 3L car, I don’t care). Now you like me better? And I assume you don’t drive a Hammer, do you? kekeke. For mid to long term, integrate this whole thing into the income tax form, like adding a row for Petrol Consumption Rebate. Likewise, for the manufacturing / transport industries, tax rebate as subsidy.

(3) Let them Dog Eat Dog for Malaysians’ sakes
This is the best part, I love this. Now petrol stations sales will be affected, how to attract customers? Cut your prices lah. Cut your margin, hire less workers. Easy licenses don’t mean easy money OK. Walk an extra mile, won’t you? (err.. I should start marketing electric fly swatter to those petrol stations taukeh..) akekekek.

The best option may be to STOP the war in IRAQ and reduce unrest in Nigeria then price of oil will stop increasing, This will also will by time for hybrid cars and alternative fuel based vehicle to come into production.

So how about government employs those things and then the fuel price rocketed to USD 300 per barrel? So it become unbearable for the G then changes the plan again?

Like it or not in future we all have to pay the full price.

So the best solution is.

Take off the subsidy and abolished tolls and reduce car price and tax.
Then we all can start talking about the permanent long term solution for future like hybrid, fuel cell and solar system etc.

So, the target groups are the Malaysian vehicle owners, and JPJ controls the database of vehicle owners. To simplify the process, I have the following suggestions:

1. Pump price will be the full price without subsidy, so that non-vehicle owners like factories cannot buy subsidised fuel.
2. Based on the average fuel consumption per vehicle per year, define the fuel subsidy for each category of vehicles, use the ‘mean’ FC figures as benchmarks. There should be 3 categories: Motobikes, passenger cars and commercial vehicles. For example RM 200 per year for bikes, RM 2000 per year for a car, RM 3000 per commercial vehicles per year. Upon renewal of road text, owner will provide his bank account number for JPJ to credit his account. Vehicles more than 25 years old needs Puspakom certification for road worthiness. JPJ only need to link up with banks MEPS system. This will be greatly simplify the disbursement process, encorage people to pay their road tax. Gov can also better control the amount of subsidy. People pay more if they use more. People pay less if they use better fuel efficient cars. Also good for environment as well. Non Malaysian will not enjoy the subsidy. No more smuggling of fuels to factories, cross-borders.

Just my 2 sens worth. Cheers!

Q:How to load subsidy to the card?
A:Go to bank,post(so have to pay change to bank too lah,ofcourse lah, nothing free lah. Or maybe u could load after u pay road tax.

I dont mind any croni politc/team want to get contract to process/server for all subsidy, as long as they deliver it to me.

this is becoz of traffic jams and work opportunities… ppl do not want to stay too far from where they work…becoz instead of the time factor, now cost factor as well…imagine if i work in KL and stay in Klang, i might use 60 liters per week… if i shift to a house within 5km to office, i can use 10 liters per week… and i can sell the 40 liters to my housemates/colleagues for my income, u see?

Someone close to the cabinet committee enlightened me on one factor that I think we all missed – time to implementation. Any form of card-based system will take a long time to implement, involve lots of investments, such as who will bear the cost of installing the card reading machines etc at the petrol stations, how will the government handle the processing of subsidy cards for every single eligible person in Malaysia, etc. A subsidy system that uses a card will put money into the hands of the IT industry.

A cash-based subsidy system where subsidy money is given directly to those that meet the criteria of eligibility of subsidy is much more cost-effective and can be implemented much quicker.

btw, it’s ridiculous if the subsidies fuel being allocate differentially amongs races… it’s like selling a much cheaper ‘roti canai’ to Indians but Malay & Chinese must pay higher price… we all eat roti canai la, same as fuel, we all use it… pls G don’t even think to do this way…

p/s: Paul,150-200 liter just too little loh, on average i spend $10k plus for fuel anually, last year mine almost $12k, that mean 500liter plus..it’s normal or my consumption above average? btw, I’m not a taxi driver.. LOL

I prefer the idea to allocate subsidies fuel limit per mykad per month. To enjoy the subsidied fuel, you have to swap you mykad at petro kiosk. Once the monthly quota used up, you have to pay for the market price.