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	<title>Comments on: Facelifted Dacia New Logan unveiled!</title>
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		<title>By: bobdbilder</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/02/facelifted-dacia-new-logan/#comment-169104</link>
		<dc:creator>bobdbilder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Methinks the 1.4 is a Renault (coz they specialise in cheap but cheerful small efficient engines) while the 1.6 is a Nissan from Latio.  It looks weird coz they target the 3rd world and emerging markets.  Which don&#039;t really care about looks, but more on practicality and low life cycle costs.  It looks weird because they took from their existing parts bin.  See the wide panoramicish camera long shots?  To minimise view of panle gaps. :)

Its also an indication this car is thin and tall like the Latio.  Please don&#039;t mention the Latio is an early model Logan.  It would offend current owners.  Oh $#i+!  I just did a picture comparison and it does!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Methinks the 1.4 is a Renault (coz they specialise in cheap but cheerful small efficient engines) while the 1.6 is a Nissan from Latio.  It looks weird coz they target the 3rd world and emerging markets.  Which don&#8217;t really care about looks, but more on practicality and low life cycle costs.  It looks weird because they took from their existing parts bin.  See the wide panoramicish camera long shots?  To minimise view of panle gaps. <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Its also an indication this car is thin and tall like the Latio.  Please don&#8217;t mention the Latio is an early model Logan.  It would offend current owners.  Oh $#i+!  I just did a picture comparison and it does!</p>
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		<title>By: BanyakMasukWorkshop</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/02/facelifted-dacia-new-logan/#comment-168951</link>
		<dc:creator>BanyakMasukWorkshop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Proton Saga generasi kedua memang tiru model ini (Renault Logan)…
Enjin pun berkongsi jugak…Enjin Campro bukan buatan Malaysia sepenuhnya…&quot;

i thought this was an automotive forum, and not a &quot;creative&quot; writing forum...?

1.so you are saying the new saga conceived almost 2 years ago and launched in jan08 copied this renault which just launched?

2. new saga sharing same engine as logan??(please note logan only comes with 1.4 engine and above, must be a bored out, or long-stroked 1.3 campro)

3. so which country designed and built the campro?  singapore?

another case of pulling facts out of your &quot;behind&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Proton Saga generasi kedua memang tiru model ini (Renault Logan)…<br />
Enjin pun berkongsi jugak…Enjin Campro bukan buatan Malaysia sepenuhnya…&#8221;</p>
<p>i thought this was an automotive forum, and not a &#8220;creative&#8221; writing forum&#8230;?</p>
<p>1.so you are saying the new saga conceived almost 2 years ago and launched in jan08 copied this renault which just launched?</p>
<p>2. new saga sharing same engine as logan??(please note logan only comes with 1.4 engine and above, must be a bored out, or long-stroked 1.3 campro)</p>
<p>3. so which country designed and built the campro?  singapore?</p>
<p>another case of pulling facts out of your &#8220;behind&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: mitlanevo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/02/facelifted-dacia-new-logan/#comment-168858</link>
		<dc:creator>mitlanevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>our new Saga looks better.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>our new Saga looks better&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: mokkf82</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/02/facelifted-dacia-new-logan/#comment-168824</link>
		<dc:creator>mokkf82</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeap! our saga is much better. 
But i like that diesel engine. hopefully it will reach here</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeap! our saga is much better.<br />
But i like that diesel engine. hopefully it will reach here</p>
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		<title>By: nmh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/02/facelifted-dacia-new-logan/#comment-168819</link>
		<dc:creator>nmh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why cheap car has to be soooo ugly....btw congrats SX4 sedan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why cheap car has to be soooo ugly&#8230;.btw congrats SX4 sedan</p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/02/facelifted-dacia-new-logan/#comment-168798</link>
		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our proton saga look better than this one</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our proton saga look better than this one</p>
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		<title>By: akshen_kamen</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/02/facelifted-dacia-new-logan/#comment-168769</link>
		<dc:creator>akshen_kamen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hafizzul said,

July 2, 2008 @ 2:12 pm

Proton Saga generasi kedua memang tiru model ini (Renault Logan)…
Enjin pun berkongsi jugak…Enjin Campro bukan buatan Malaysia sepenuhnya…
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any prove dude......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hafizzul said,</p>
<p>July 2, 2008 @ 2:12 pm</p>
<p>Proton Saga generasi kedua memang tiru model ini (Renault Logan)…<br />
Enjin pun berkongsi jugak…Enjin Campro bukan buatan Malaysia sepenuhnya…<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
any prove dude&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JULIANLEE2</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/02/facelifted-dacia-new-logan/#comment-168759</link>
		<dc:creator>JULIANLEE2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if only the proton saga looked this good</description>
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		<title>By: MyviKiller</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/02/facelifted-dacia-new-logan/#comment-168727</link>
		<dc:creator>MyviKiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks more upmarket, it&#039;s been Rover-ised I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks more upmarket, it&#8217;s been Rover-ised I think.</p>
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		<title>By: hafizzul</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/02/facelifted-dacia-new-logan/#comment-168726</link>
		<dc:creator>hafizzul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton Saga generasi kedua memang tiru model ini (Renault Logan)...
Enjin pun berkongsi jugak...Enjin Campro bukan buatan Malaysia sepenuhnya...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton Saga generasi kedua memang tiru model ini (Renault Logan)&#8230;<br />
Enjin pun berkongsi jugak&#8230;Enjin Campro bukan buatan Malaysia sepenuhnya&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kingv6</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/02/facelifted-dacia-new-logan/#comment-168720</link>
		<dc:creator>kingv6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its definitely resembles Proton Saga 2nd gen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its definitely resembles Proton Saga 2nd gen.</p>
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		<title>By: osh_kosh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/02/facelifted-dacia-new-logan/#comment-168712</link>
		<dc:creator>osh_kosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for me, BLM is much better if term of exterior looks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for me, BLM is much better if term of exterior looks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ...</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/02/facelifted-dacia-new-logan/#comment-168692</link>
		<dc:creator>...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rumors has it that the Savvy platform is based on a reverse engineered previous generation renault clio platform, as is the Logan. This might explain why the logan looks very similar to the BLM, although proton should be proud the new logan dashboard looks like it is copied from the BLM (which was launched 1st before this logan facelift).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rumors has it that the Savvy platform is based on a reverse engineered previous generation renault clio platform, as is the Logan. This might explain why the logan looks very similar to the BLM, although proton should be proud the new logan dashboard looks like it is copied from the BLM (which was launched 1st before this logan facelift).</p>
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		<title>By: Poxxue</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/02/facelifted-dacia-new-logan/#comment-168689</link>
		<dc:creator>Poxxue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ya la..true also..come to think of it...french cars dont have good 2nd value pun...but what I meant was ..only abiss in terms of competition je ...u know..it being continental n all...n having to share the market...rite now..they:re like really comfortable kan...tu je la..hehe..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya la..true also..come to think of it&#8230;french cars dont have good 2nd value pun&#8230;but what I meant was ..only abiss in terms of competition je &#8230;u know..it being continental n all&#8230;n having to share the market&#8230;rite now..they:re like really comfortable kan&#8230;tu je la..hehe..</p>
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		<title>By: BanyakMasukWorkshop</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/02/facelifted-dacia-new-logan/#comment-168685</link>
		<dc:creator>BanyakMasukWorkshop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>poxxue, even if the logan came into malaysia, i&#039;m pretty certain proton will face no problems. what makes you think it will kill proton?  it is still after all, a renault.. see any new renaults on the road lately?  actually.. see many new french cars on the road lately?    

as for the logan, i have no doubts about it being a good decent car for the money.  i personally wouldnt mind having one as a runabout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>poxxue, even if the logan came into malaysia, i&#8217;m pretty certain proton will face no problems. what makes you think it will kill proton?  it is still after all, a renault.. see any new renaults on the road lately?  actually.. see many new french cars on the road lately?    </p>
<p>as for the logan, i have no doubts about it being a good decent car for the money.  i personally wouldnt mind having one as a runabout.</p>
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		<title>By: Poxxue</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/02/facelifted-dacia-new-logan/#comment-168682</link>
		<dc:creator>Poxxue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there any company bringing in the Dacia Logan Paul?..Abiss la Proton if they come to our shore...

By d way Paul, tis is totally out of the topic..need to know a few things about Hybrid cars ...

1) Are there many service centre in Malaysia providing Hybrid engine services?
   Apart from Honda n Toyota whom bringing in the Hybrid models
2) Are the service charges n parts expensive?
3) Is it possible to take ur personal imported hybrid cars say a Honda, for a service at any of local honda branch?
4) How about the import tax?..is it expensive to bring one in?

Hope u or anyone can enlighten me ...thanx a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any company bringing in the Dacia Logan Paul?..Abiss la Proton if they come to our shore&#8230;</p>
<p>By d way Paul, tis is totally out of the topic..need to know a few things about Hybrid cars &#8230;</p>
<p>1) Are there many service centre in Malaysia providing Hybrid engine services?<br />
   Apart from Honda n Toyota whom bringing in the Hybrid models<br />
2) Are the service charges n parts expensive?<br />
3) Is it possible to take ur personal imported hybrid cars say a Honda, for a service at any of local honda branch?<br />
4) How about the import tax?..is it expensive to bring one in?</p>
<p>Hope u or anyone can enlighten me &#8230;thanx a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: azrai</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/02/facelifted-dacia-new-logan/#comment-168673</link>
		<dc:creator>azrai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow it look nicer tahn the current Waja.</description>
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		<title>By: abb200</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/02/facelifted-dacia-new-logan/#comment-168645</link>
		<dc:creator>abb200</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>errr...this car, somehow has an eerie resemblance to our 2nd generation Proton Saga</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>errr&#8230;this car, somehow has an eerie resemblance to our 2nd generation Proton Saga</p>
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		<title>By: gajen</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/02/facelifted-dacia-new-logan/#comment-168643</link>
		<dc:creator>gajen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>simple nice car...dun really like the shape of the window frame tho...the rear hasnt changed much i guess..cos i saw the older model last year...the back looks abt the same...

logan...no wonder the grille has wolverine&#039;s blades haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>simple nice car&#8230;dun really like the shape of the window frame tho&#8230;the rear hasnt changed much i guess..cos i saw the older model last year&#8230;the back looks abt the same&#8230;</p>
<p>logan&#8230;no wonder the grille has wolverine&#8217;s blades haha</p>
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