Comments on: NAP under review, possible changes end-2008 http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:34:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: og?oszenia towarzyskie http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-591919 og?oszenia towarzyskie Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:36:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-591919 Only desire to express your main commentary is just as outrageous. The entire understanding inside of your publish is exactly really good and i can easily think you’re an experienced about this content. Ok with your own concur i can to grab your feed to have just updated that includes next information. Appreciation millions of and you need to maintain the particular gratifying operate. Only desire to express your main commentary is just as outrageous. The entire understanding inside of your publish is exactly really good and i can easily think you’re an experienced about this content. Ok with your own concur i can to grab your feed to have just updated that includes next information. Appreciation millions of and you need to maintain the particular gratifying operate.

]]> By: torque http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-172599 torque Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:39:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-172599 A cow that can bullsh*ting...imagine that...what a sight!! A cow that can bullsh*ting…imagine that…what a sight!!

]]> By: intermilan http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-171196 intermilan Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:34:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-171196 he might have nothing to show since become the MITI minister (does he have any?), so harped on NAP review since its an issue that truly piss off many malaysian and potential foreign investor. its clear plain stupid and downright humilating (at least in rakyat heart) for Malaysia as the biggest passenger car market in ASEAN to witness all the relevant FDI and setting up of manufacturing hub for passenger cars is in Thailand (and Indonesia is picking up now). More so when its getting bigger and up to the point of no return. When majority of car manufacturers, part suppliers, vendors etc are in Thailand, there is no point or synergy for investment in Malaysia. Malaysia need to buckle up its manufacturing sector. It contribute little to the economy nowadays. We cant rely on income from O&G tax. Do that for a few years more and the future gonna be bleak. So now Malaysia look Thailand not only with red-envy-eyes but pure embarrassment. To rub salt to the wound, the fact is.. Thailand is in long-drawn-out political turmoil of its own since thaksin been kickout (fews years already) but the automotive FDI keep coming in..... thats how idiotic and 'dengkel' our NAP is. Malaysia NAP just confirm and reaffirm foreign investors is not welcome. Its like the best-case-scenario news for Thailand (and corrupt AP Kings, cronies and more importantly shadowy AP King's Master a.k.a. the real AP KING). This echelon might exist.. Who knows? I bet Thailand could not believe their eyes and ears when NAP was officially annonced back then. For AP King and their Master, perhaps its a non-event.. they might be the shadow behind the NAP. Possibilities are abundant. His words look more like step to gain favour with the public (for what?). konon-konon good news la.. Its not qualified to be trusted as a Government announcement. Beside nobody, nobody trust anything from the politician anymore. More like another b*llsh*t lip service.. he might have nothing to show since become the MITI minister (does he have any?), so harped on NAP review since its an issue that truly piss off many malaysian and potential foreign investor.

its clear plain stupid and downright humilating (at least in rakyat heart) for Malaysia as the biggest passenger car market in ASEAN to witness all the relevant FDI and setting up of manufacturing hub for passenger cars is in Thailand (and Indonesia is picking up now).
More so when its getting bigger and up to the point of no return. When majority of car manufacturers, part suppliers, vendors etc are in Thailand, there is no point or synergy for investment in Malaysia.

Malaysia need to buckle up its manufacturing sector. It contribute little to the economy nowadays. We cant rely on income from O&G tax. Do that for a few years more and the future gonna be bleak.

So now Malaysia look Thailand not only with red-envy-eyes but pure embarrassment. To rub salt to the wound, the fact is.. Thailand is in long-drawn-out political turmoil of its own since thaksin been kickout (fews years already) but the automotive FDI keep coming in….. thats how idiotic and ‘dengkel’ our NAP is.

Malaysia NAP just confirm and reaffirm foreign investors is not welcome. Its like the best-case-scenario news for Thailand (and corrupt AP Kings, cronies and more importantly shadowy AP King’s Master a.k.a. the real AP KING). This echelon might exist.. Who knows?

I bet Thailand could not believe their eyes and ears when NAP was officially annonced back then. For AP King and their Master, perhaps its a non-event.. they might be the shadow behind the NAP. Possibilities are abundant.

His words look more like step to gain favour with the public (for what?). konon-konon good news la.. Its not qualified to be trusted as a Government announcement. Beside nobody, nobody trust anything from the politician anymore. More like another b*llsh*t lip service..

]]> By: hamster http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-171189 hamster Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:05:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-171189 NAP = No Action Policy NAP = No Action Policy

]]> By: JULIANLEE2 http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-171111 JULIANLEE2 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:58:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-171111 this country is dead, long live the ap kings, bloody ap kings and queens faggots this country is dead, long live the ap kings, bloody ap kings and queens faggots

]]> By: pippen http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-171069 pippen Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:09:16 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-171069 even if the G now realized that the country has no future, Thailand has been setup and running for the Toyota, Mazda plan worth over 100millions. Now only the G want to do that? Let's stop buying any cars until the Potong cronis close down. The G like always think doing the talking can change the world or the country. God bless Msia. The globalisation has been eating up Msia if you dont realized, and we are too late to react already. even if the G now realized that the country has no future, Thailand has been setup and running for the Toyota, Mazda plan worth over 100millions. Now only the G want to do that? Let’s stop buying any cars until the Potong cronis close down. The G like always think doing the talking can change the world or the country. God bless Msia. The globalisation has been eating up Msia if you dont realized, and we are too late to react already.

]]> By: adil2008 http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170992 adil2008 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:55:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170992 ai yoh, before end 2008, until 2020 still remain unchage, forget it, dont proposed before act, act it, then announced, ok. ai yoh, before end 2008, until 2020 still remain unchage, forget it, dont proposed before act, act it, then announced, ok.

]]> By: csv http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170978 csv Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:37:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170978 NATO. NO ACTION, TALK ONLY. unless i see things done, i know they're probably bullshitting inside the meeting room, or sodomizing each other. hahaha. anyway, remove AP system, no penalty for us anymore, death of P1 and P2, cheaper cars on the roads, less tax for imports, and market rate for fuel to counter the effects. this are what alot of people want. wonder if they'll do it. nah.....too happy counting money, who cares about the rakyat!? NATO. NO ACTION, TALK ONLY.

unless i see things done, i know they’re probably bullshitting inside the meeting room, or sodomizing each other. hahaha.

anyway, remove AP system, no penalty for us anymore, death of P1 and P2, cheaper cars on the roads, less tax for imports, and market rate for fuel to counter the effects.

this are what alot of people want. wonder if they’ll do it.

nah…..too happy counting money, who cares about the rakyat!?

]]> By: rajtheboss http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170972 rajtheboss Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:12:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170972 NAP need to be revised immediately to revise which are fully in favour of proton. Until today we can see that proton unable to produce world standard car despite many protection and fund given n our true malaysian support given. Still producing low quality in car in terms of technology and material quality NAP need to be revised immediately to revise which are fully in favour of proton. Until today we can see that proton unable to produce world standard car despite many protection and fund given n our true malaysian support given.

Still producing low quality in car in terms of technology and material quality

]]> By: LittleFire85 http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170968 LittleFire85 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:04:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170968 Yawwnn... Greed will never ends, even until the person died his family legacy will also continue the greed also... T.T Want fair AP, open too all and not just a few... Yawwnn… Greed will never ends, even until the person died his family legacy will also continue the greed also… T.T

Want fair AP, open too all and not just a few…

]]> By: delos3nos http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170959 delos3nos Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:45:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170959 for those who make money from AP will find a way to stop the AP been abolish. so do u think the AP will be abolish? Looks like we are smarter then the gov cuss they puppet by cronies. Well people if AP abolish then it have been long gone already so its not going to go its will stay. LONG LIVE AP KING THE AP WILL NEVER GO PEOPLE its too difficult to let GO. But you can dream for those who make money from AP will find a way to stop the AP been abolish.
so do u think the AP will be abolish? Looks like we are smarter then the gov cuss they puppet by cronies. Well people if AP abolish then it have been long gone already so its not going to go its will stay.

LONG LIVE AP KING
THE AP WILL NEVER GO PEOPLE its too difficult to let GO.
But you can dream

]]> By: Roti Naan http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170957 Roti Naan Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:44:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170957 Tipuuuuuuuu la.... Tipuuuuuuuu la….

]]> By: David9988 http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170948 David9988 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:56:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170948 I want the import tax to be abolished but replaced by a vehicle tax that is applicable to all cars( including proton). However, an additional import tax should be imposed on cbu units to encourage foreign car manufacturers to build factories here. Abolishing taxes altogether for cars would have devastating consequences on the economy. And i do not want to see more cars on the roads just because it has become more affordable. I want the import tax to be abolished but replaced by a vehicle tax that is applicable to all cars( including proton). However, an additional import tax should be imposed on cbu units to encourage foreign car manufacturers to build factories here. Abolishing taxes altogether for cars would have devastating consequences on the economy. And i do not want to see more cars on the roads just because it has become more affordable.

]]> By: mattyboy http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170914 mattyboy Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:42:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170914 Ok, here is my idea for a plan that could work and be a winner for everyone involved - the G, the people, foreign car companies and even the national cars. Here goes - locally assembeled CKD cars enjoy that same level playing field as national cars when it comes to tax but ONLY if they export 50% of what they produce. That would force the car makers to use Malaysia as an assembly point not just for the local market but for ASEAN as a whole (so the G wins with the investment and the people with jobs), if they choose not to then their cars will still be taxed heavily (G wins again as do P1 and P2) Now to me that just seen like a really simple plan that works for everyone, you can even make the 50% rise to 75% over time. Anyone think of a reason why that would not be workable? Ok, here is my idea for a plan that could work and be a winner for everyone involved – the G, the people, foreign car companies and even the national cars.

Here goes – locally assembeled CKD cars enjoy that same level playing field as national cars when it comes to tax but ONLY if they export 50% of what they produce.

That would force the car makers to use Malaysia as an assembly point not just for the local market but for ASEAN as a whole (so the G wins with the investment and the people with jobs), if they choose not to then their cars will still be taxed heavily (G wins again as do P1 and P2)

Now to me that just seen like a really simple plan that works for everyone, you can even make the 50% rise to 75% over time.

Anyone think of a reason why that would not be workable?

]]> By: noactiontalkonly http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170913 noactiontalkonly Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:11:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170913 redwings said, July 15, 2008 @ 5:01 pm Agreed with Mattyboy, no point brought up this issue…talk only no action. lowprofile said, July 15, 2008 @ 6:32 pm i totally agree with all you guys. all talk and no action. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Yes!! NO ACTION TALK ONLY!!! SAY MY NAME EVERYBODY!! redwings said,
July 15, 2008 @ 5:01 pm

Agreed with Mattyboy, no point brought up this issue…talk only no action.

lowprofile said,
July 15, 2008 @ 6:32 pm

i totally agree with all you guys. all talk and no action.
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Yes!! NO ACTION TALK ONLY!!! SAY MY NAME EVERYBODY!!

]]> By: mystvearn http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170905 mystvearn Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:37:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170905 when NAP comes out, you finish reading that article, has no value at all. Just a long text of nothingness. Now gov suffer, just so that can let proton survive, go loose all kinds of contracts when NAP comes out, you finish reading that article, has no value at all. Just a long text of nothingness. Now gov suffer, just so that can let proton survive, go loose all kinds of contracts

]]> By: ly60 http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170898 ly60 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:44:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170898 Now only G are talking. The automotive policy in Thailand already enter 2nd phase. Here, the G extend the AP's policy for another 10 years. So what the automotive policy are talking about. Even if the G are talking, i totally agree with all you guys - NO ACTION AND TALK ONLY. Now only G are talking. The automotive policy in Thailand already enter 2nd phase. Here, the G extend the AP’s policy for another 10 years. So what the automotive policy are talking about. Even if the G are talking, i totally agree with all you guys – NO ACTION AND TALK ONLY.

]]> By: lowprofile http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170896 lowprofile Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:32:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170896 one announcement after another. these guys can lie through their teeth. what have they done to promote a fair and level playing field? in the past years, they were clamoring for proton's protection. now they have lost a huge majority in the parliamentary seats. this seems like a desperate attempt to pull back votes. you think they will do it? i mean actually do something for the non-local players who have big bags to invest? to me it seems like nothing more than hot air. i totally agree with all you guys. all talk and no action. one announcement after another. these guys can lie through their teeth. what have they done to promote a fair and level playing field? in the past years, they were clamoring for proton’s protection. now they have lost a huge majority in the parliamentary seats. this seems like a desperate attempt to pull back votes. you think they will do it? i mean actually do something for the non-local players who have big bags to invest? to me it seems like nothing more than hot air.

i totally agree with all you guys. all talk and no action.

]]> By: osh_kosh http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170888 osh_kosh Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:52:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170888 i don't trust anything that G announce anymore... they'll lie at the end of the day (flip-flop system).... plus a smile on their face like nothing had been said before... hey, if the most powerfull person in this country can lie, imagine the bilis2 ones... i don’t trust anything that G announce anymore… they’ll lie at the end of the day (flip-flop system)…. plus a smile on their face like nothing had been said before…

hey, if the most powerfull person in this country can lie, imagine the bilis2 ones…

]]> By: maibatsu_thunder http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170885 maibatsu_thunder Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:49:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170885 APs are one thing but more importantly is the overall picture and the points which I mentioned above. The wholistic overview of the entire auto industry and where Malaysia wants to be, the direction its heading in, what does DOE, JPJ and the Govt. actually want? They should put it in writing so that automotive companies can plan. APs are one thing but more importantly is the overall picture and the points which I mentioned above. The wholistic overview of the entire auto industry and where Malaysia wants to be, the direction its heading in, what does DOE, JPJ and the Govt. actually want? They should put it in writing so that automotive companies can plan.

]]> By: azrai http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170883 azrai Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:18:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170883 I think more cronies will get new AP's. :-) This will definately be the new policy. Don't have to wait. I think more cronies will get new AP’s. :-) This will definately be the new policy. Don’t have to wait.

]]> By: maibatsu_thunder http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170882 maibatsu_thunder Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:14:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170882 No one wants to invest in Malaysia for long term because Malaysia doesn't have a long term plan! Mitsubishi doesn't even want to do CKD, likewise Chevrolet (Daewoo), Renault, Citroen, etc. India has a 2006-2016 Ten Year Automotive Mission Plan to ensure India becomes an automotive hub for the region. I humbly suggest our politicians take a look into it. Policies on duties, emissions, fuel quality, type approvals, seatbelt policies, airbags, etc. need to be clearly mentioned. http://www.dhi.nic.in/draft_automotive_mission_plan.pdf Sudden changes like the gazetted prices, requirement for Type Approval, NAP, etc. were all done without prior warning or proper grace period to manufacturers. No one wants to invest in Malaysia for long term because Malaysia doesn’t have a long term plan!

Mitsubishi doesn’t even want to do CKD, likewise Chevrolet (Daewoo), Renault, Citroen, etc.

India has a 2006-2016 Ten Year Automotive Mission Plan to ensure India becomes an automotive hub for the region. I humbly suggest our politicians take a look into it. Policies on duties, emissions, fuel quality, type approvals, seatbelt policies, airbags, etc. need to be clearly mentioned.

http://www.dhi.nic.in/draft_automotive_mission_plan.pdf

Sudden changes like the gazetted prices, requirement for Type Approval, NAP, etc. were all done without prior warning or proper grace period to manufacturers.

]]> By: blaze http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170878 blaze Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:04:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170878 Okay old cows, time to get shot!!! New cows please get ready!!! Okay old cows, time to get shot!!! New cows please get ready!!!

]]> By: redwings http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170877 redwings Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:01:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170877 Agreed with Mattyboy, no point brought up this issue...talk only no action. Just give the consumer high only.... They have been doing the talking and talking for so long...see what they have done the AP...They are greedy..., sigh... Agreed with Mattyboy, no point brought up this issue…talk only no action. Just give the consumer high only….

They have been doing the talking and talking for so long…see what they have done the AP…They are greedy…, sigh…

]]> By: JULIANLEE2 http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170868 JULIANLEE2 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:40:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170868 CHEAP CARS..NO MORE IMPORT TAXES PLEASE CHEAP CARS..NO MORE IMPORT TAXES PLEASE

]]> By: I my http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170865 I my Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:24:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170865 haha... tock tock.. just take out the APs lah. haha… tock tock.. just take out the APs lah.

]]> By: mattyboy http://paultan.org/2008/07/15/nap-under-review-possible-changes-end-2008/#comment-170863 mattyboy Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:18:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=6066#comment-170863 How to kill the motor industry until a further announcement is made! Things like this should not be released until they are going to be implemented, who in their right mind would purcahse an imported car from now until a firm decision is made? How to kill the motor industry until a further announcement is made! Things like this should not be released until they are going to be implemented, who in their right mind would purcahse an imported car from now until a firm decision is made?

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