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	<title>Comments on: Lotus Evora: official name for the Project Eagle 2+2</title>
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		<title>By: torque</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172585</link>
		<dc:creator>torque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Bummerboy! Most magazine I read the journalist that drive the Lotus will always say it&#039;s a damn good handling car but they all also have the same critics they gave...which is, the lack of space, the lack of quality, lack of this, lack of that...yada yada yada. So what you said Bummerboy is true. Proton and Lotus does have the same problem. Now, with the Evora...seems like Lotus have out done themselves. The car is good and by god, the interior is damn great!! Let&#039;s just hope that Proton will take the same move. After all, we as the end user are the one that might profit if Proton improve on it&#039;s quality, right? Heck! Proton is part of Malaysia and we are a part of it as well. Hope Proton won&#039;t screw things up again...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Bummerboy! Most magazine I read the journalist that drive the Lotus will always say it&#8217;s a damn good handling car but they all also have the same critics they gave&#8230;which is, the lack of space, the lack of quality, lack of this, lack of that&#8230;yada yada yada. So what you said Bummerboy is true. Proton and Lotus does have the same problem. Now, with the Evora&#8230;seems like Lotus have out done themselves. The car is good and by god, the interior is damn great!! Let&#8217;s just hope that Proton will take the same move. After all, we as the end user are the one that might profit if Proton improve on it&#8217;s quality, right? Heck! Proton is part of Malaysia and we are a part of it as well. Hope Proton won&#8217;t screw things up again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mukhri88</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172537</link>
		<dc:creator>mukhri88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bummerboy, cool. Opened my eyes to a whole new perspective. Now I wish Proton execs read what you wrote as well. U&#039;re strategic planner?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bummerboy, cool. Opened my eyes to a whole new perspective. Now I wish Proton execs read what you wrote as well. U&#8217;re strategic planner?</p>
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		<title>By: waimak</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172524</link>
		<dc:creator>waimak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you bummerboy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you bummerboy!</p>
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		<title>By: weewitt</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172494</link>
		<dc:creator>weewitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cooL ride..smoking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cooL ride..smoking!</p>
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		<title>By: jamsbong</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172450</link>
		<dc:creator>jamsbong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said bummerboy.

there is no point developing an engine when it is very expensive and because of lack of reliability experience, it breaks down. Toyota is one company who is clearly reliable and in recent years have had reasonable power output per litre out of their engines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said bummerboy.</p>
<p>there is no point developing an engine when it is very expensive and because of lack of reliability experience, it breaks down. Toyota is one company who is clearly reliable and in recent years have had reasonable power output per litre out of their engines.</p>
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		<title>By: bummerboy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172433</link>
		<dc:creator>bummerboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well couple of things, Lotus does make engines. The Esprit 2.2l 4L turbo is lotus designed and made, and the 3.5l V8 in later Esprit also. But it cannot be profitable at such a small volume which is why they started using Rover and subsequently Toyota engines.

As for the structure of Lotus Group, there is an engineering division which provides consultancy and mechanical designs to various other manufacturers, and Lotus Car which produces the Lotuses. Now the best that Proton Car can get is consultancy and design from Lotus Eng. Even if they are all under Proton Holdings, they are different companies, and their books are kept separately.

And given that Lotus&#039; business falls under British jurisdiction, I am very sure that business deals (eg consultancy work, design, prototyping) that Proton Cars commission Lotus Eng to do will be transparent and clean.

So the workflow will probably be something like this : Proton submits specification requirement for job (eg Satria Neo chassis design) to Lotus Eng, Lotus quotes fees, Proton pays Lotus, Lotus deliver design and manufacturing blueprint, Proton makes Neo, Lotus takes money and use to design sports cars that Lotus Cars can build.

Now. Both Proton and Lotus are bugged by the same problem: low quality finishing and materials. Good to drive, sometimes even great, but doesnt make the owner/passenger feel good. Give it some thought and you can see the reason. At the volume that Proton and Lotus are making their cars, they cannot bargain for high quality parts. For the money Proton pays to get 10 pieces of 2star plastic, VW can get 10 pieces of 5star plastic because they buy in 10-100times the amount that Proton would&#039;ve bought.

What Proton really need to save its ass, and start making better cars which will carry on to save its ass, is to start a part-purchasing company with lotus, and another major car manufacturer. One that immediately comes to mind, is TATA. Everything will start to make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well couple of things, Lotus does make engines. The Esprit 2.2l 4L turbo is lotus designed and made, and the 3.5l V8 in later Esprit also. But it cannot be profitable at such a small volume which is why they started using Rover and subsequently Toyota engines.</p>
<p>As for the structure of Lotus Group, there is an engineering division which provides consultancy and mechanical designs to various other manufacturers, and Lotus Car which produces the Lotuses. Now the best that Proton Car can get is consultancy and design from Lotus Eng. Even if they are all under Proton Holdings, they are different companies, and their books are kept separately.</p>
<p>And given that Lotus&#8217; business falls under British jurisdiction, I am very sure that business deals (eg consultancy work, design, prototyping) that Proton Cars commission Lotus Eng to do will be transparent and clean.</p>
<p>So the workflow will probably be something like this : Proton submits specification requirement for job (eg Satria Neo chassis design) to Lotus Eng, Lotus quotes fees, Proton pays Lotus, Lotus deliver design and manufacturing blueprint, Proton makes Neo, Lotus takes money and use to design sports cars that Lotus Cars can build.</p>
<p>Now. Both Proton and Lotus are bugged by the same problem: low quality finishing and materials. Good to drive, sometimes even great, but doesnt make the owner/passenger feel good. Give it some thought and you can see the reason. At the volume that Proton and Lotus are making their cars, they cannot bargain for high quality parts. For the money Proton pays to get 10 pieces of 2star plastic, VW can get 10 pieces of 5star plastic because they buy in 10-100times the amount that Proton would&#8217;ve bought.</p>
<p>What Proton really need to save its ass, and start making better cars which will carry on to save its ass, is to start a part-purchasing company with lotus, and another major car manufacturer. One that immediately comes to mind, is TATA. Everything will start to make sense.</p>
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		<title>By: capeplates</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172420</link>
		<dc:creator>capeplates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh to win the lottery! What a car - my dream</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh to win the lottery! What a car &#8211; my dream</p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172401</link>
		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This will replace the Europa claustrophobic insides. Hopefully it will be fun to drive too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This will replace the Europa claustrophobic insides. Hopefully it will be fun to drive too.</p>
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		<title>By: rt</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172389</link>
		<dc:creator>rt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just couldn&#039;t figure out why it was developed (initally) as left-hand drive.
Probably for the American market?


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just couldn&#8217;t figure out why it was developed (initally) as left-hand drive.<br />
Probably for the American market?</p>
<p>.</p>
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		<title>By: qozhx</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172376</link>
		<dc:creator>qozhx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with BanyakMasukWorkshop,
why want to hentam Proton...
the article is about Lotus Evora not PROTON EVORA or what so ever...
anyway good start for lotus on developing mid size suppercar...
maybe it will succeed Lotus Esprit in the future...

p/s : Even the new Nissan GT-R seek consultancy secretly from Lotus...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with BanyakMasukWorkshop,<br />
why want to hentam Proton&#8230;<br />
the article is about Lotus Evora not PROTON EVORA or what so ever&#8230;<br />
anyway good start for lotus on developing mid size suppercar&#8230;<br />
maybe it will succeed Lotus Esprit in the future&#8230;</p>
<p>p/s : Even the new Nissan GT-R seek consultancy secretly from Lotus&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: prangin</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172364</link>
		<dc:creator>prangin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kudos to mike kimberley and d boffins at lotus.  they really outdo themselves this time.  the car is such a stunner and d interior is just sublime.  it&#039;s perfect for those enthusiasts looking to upgrade from elise or exige. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kudos to mike kimberley and d boffins at lotus.  they really outdo themselves this time.  the car is such a stunner and d interior is just sublime.  it&#8217;s perfect for those enthusiasts looking to upgrade from elise or exige. <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: hamster</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172340</link>
		<dc:creator>hamster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm..i think this car is lack of &quot;wow&quot; factor..doesnt really look appealin to me..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm..i think this car is lack of &#8220;wow&#8221; factor..doesnt really look appealin to me..</p>
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		<title>By: proud2BMalaysian</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172339</link>
		<dc:creator>proud2BMalaysian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very2 impressive, a 2+2 seater, mid engined but have a storage at the back. couldn&#039;t imagine anyone could build such a car. futhermore, it&#039;s lotus, who produces small cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very2 impressive, a 2+2 seater, mid engined but have a storage at the back. couldn&#8217;t imagine anyone could build such a car. futhermore, it&#8217;s lotus, who produces small cars.</p>
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		<title>By: goguncas71</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172335</link>
		<dc:creator>goguncas71</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lotus embarrassed to be inked to Proton?

They don&#039;t seem to be embarrassed when they keep asking Proton to advance them money...

Let&#039;s hope this model will be successful and we don&#039;t have to prop them up anymore.

Will it sell? I think so, the performance is there and people are sick of seeing 911/Caymans/Boxsters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lotus embarrassed to be inked to Proton?</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t seem to be embarrassed when they keep asking Proton to advance them money&#8230;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope this model will be successful and we don&#8217;t have to prop them up anymore.</p>
<p>Will it sell? I think so, the performance is there and people are sick of seeing 911/Caymans/Boxsters.</p>
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		<title>By: akmal</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172323</link>
		<dc:creator>akmal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe they will make the super/turbo charger version later.. like the Lotus Elise S .. then maybe Lotus Evora S ?? that should pump-up more horse...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe they will make the super/turbo charger version later.. like the Lotus Elise S .. then maybe Lotus Evora S ?? that should pump-up more horse&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: king</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172321</link>
		<dc:creator>king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks good...better than the boring aging elise which facelifted about 20 times.

is this model replacement for the old esprit?

they should put in the GTR&#039;s engine into this car...that would send this car flying round the circuit.

mitlaveno,

they call that the wiralution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks good&#8230;better than the boring aging elise which facelifted about 20 times.</p>
<p>is this model replacement for the old esprit?</p>
<p>they should put in the GTR&#8217;s engine into this car&#8230;that would send this car flying round the circuit.</p>
<p>mitlaveno,</p>
<p>they call that the wiralution.</p>
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		<title>By: mitlanevo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172312</link>
		<dc:creator>mitlanevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, this car is really rojak....

first of all, the car has a lot of elements from Elise, Europa and F430, that means both Lotus and Ferrari, but the brand is Lotus....

then, they put in a Toyota engine, and get a &quot;decent&quot; name from our local Ah Beng who drives Proton Wira with front half-cut of Evo (Evo + Wira).....


sorry guys, just kidding, hehez</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, this car is really rojak&#8230;.</p>
<p>first of all, the car has a lot of elements from Elise, Europa and F430, that means both Lotus and Ferrari, but the brand is Lotus&#8230;.</p>
<p>then, they put in a Toyota engine, and get a &#8220;decent&#8221; name from our local Ah Beng who drives Proton Wira with front half-cut of Evo (Evo + Wira)&#8230;..</p>
<p>sorry guys, just kidding, hehez</p>
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		<title>By: akmal</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172311</link>
		<dc:creator>akmal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there&#039;s a lot of proton basher here.. for my personal opinion.. proton already have the technology know-how of Lotus.. it&#039;s just the question whether its practical or not to implement it into proton car..  the basic evident of lotus tech use in proton car handling and everyone know proton car handle very well. other tech such as aluminum bonded body frame may suitable on normal car, might even make the price higher.. 

how proton making money out of lotus ? well basically lotus is doing engineering consultancy for any car manufacturer..  hey, even lotus tune the handling for the famous nissan gtr r35..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#8217;s a lot of proton basher here.. for my personal opinion.. proton already have the technology know-how of Lotus.. it&#8217;s just the question whether its practical or not to implement it into proton car..  the basic evident of lotus tech use in proton car handling and everyone know proton car handle very well. other tech such as aluminum bonded body frame may suitable on normal car, might even make the price higher.. </p>
<p>how proton making money out of lotus ? well basically lotus is doing engineering consultancy for any car manufacturer..  hey, even lotus tune the handling for the famous nissan gtr r35..</p>
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		<title>By: mukhri88</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172300</link>
		<dc:creator>mukhri88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Build la something that can compete with Nissan GT-R.. Lotus is so high tech, I believe they could build a GT-R beater even.. and at lower price too. Lower for the Brits iguess, not Malaysians. Malaysians continously kene rip off by G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Build la something that can compete with Nissan GT-R.. Lotus is so high tech, I believe they could build a GT-R beater even.. and at lower price too. Lower for the Brits iguess, not Malaysians. Malaysians continously kene rip off by G.</p>
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		<title>By: JULIANLEE2</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172288</link>
		<dc:creator>JULIANLEE2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice car, too bad we own it and yet we can&#039;t afford to buy 1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice car, too bad we own it and yet we can&#8217;t afford to buy 1</p>
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		<title>By: lchan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172282</link>
		<dc:creator>lchan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what ashame the car is so expensive and proton has given up total on manufacturing the car in Malaysia. Want to buy one also hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what ashame the car is so expensive and proton has given up total on manufacturing the car in Malaysia. Want to buy one also hard.</p>
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		<title>By: car_craze</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172279</link>
		<dc:creator>car_craze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice body (the car) but not sure if the white interior is practical for the production version.</description>
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		<title>By: Fox</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172272</link>
		<dc:creator>Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roti Naan said,
July 23, 2008 @ 12:36 am

Lotus must be damn malu being associated with PROTON…..eeeeeeeeuwww
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Why must they feel malu? They have already Malu long time ago when they can&#039;t survive and Proton bought their share in cash!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roti Naan said,<br />
July 23, 2008 @ 12:36 am</p>
<p>Lotus must be damn malu being associated with PROTON…..eeeeeeeeuwww<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Why must they feel malu? They have already Malu long time ago when they can&#8217;t survive and Proton bought their share in cash!!</p>
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		<title>By: jonnyblaze</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172271</link>
		<dc:creator>jonnyblaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautifully sculptured body.

Engine by Toyota. Gearbox by...?

Lembu punya susu, sapi dapat nama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautifully sculptured body.</p>
<p>Engine by Toyota. Gearbox by&#8230;?</p>
<p>Lembu punya susu, sapi dapat nama.</p>
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		<title>By: abtm</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172270</link>
		<dc:creator>abtm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ebola?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ebola?</p>
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		<title>By: Roti Naan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172267</link>
		<dc:creator>Roti Naan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chicks? you mean baby chicken ar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chicks? you mean baby chicken ar?</p>
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		<title>By: rosdi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172258</link>
		<dc:creator>rosdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is damn nice looking chicks!!!.. uh oh.. were you guys talking about the car?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is damn nice looking chicks!!!.. uh oh.. were you guys talking about the car?</p>
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		<title>By: fandango</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172254</link>
		<dc:creator>fandango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very chun car, but I see that it will only be a niche model, as compared to the GT-R that would be flying off the shelves...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very chun car, but I see that it will only be a niche model, as compared to the GT-R that would be flying off the shelves&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: farghmee</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172248</link>
		<dc:creator>farghmee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exterior: sleek. i like it :)
interior: sporty&amp;simple dashboard. i like it :)
engine: i don&#039;t care what brand, as long as it serves the purpose, it is ok~

on proton+lotus thing, 
i like the handling of gen2, savvy. wish i could drive a neo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exterior: sleek. i like it <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
interior: sporty&amp;simple dashboard. i like it <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
engine: i don&#8217;t care what brand, as long as it serves the purpose, it is ok~</p>
<p>on proton+lotus thing,<br />
i like the handling of gen2, savvy. wish i could drive a neo.</p>
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		<title>By: scottloeb</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/07/22/lotus-evora-official-name-for-the-project-eagle-22/#comment-172239</link>
		<dc:creator>scottloeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This car supposed to come with new family of engines that will be shared with few other &quot;big&quot; Proton cars (V6, V8 Supercharged, 2.2cc to 3 litre) but the whole project being scraped and resize, only some of Lotus&#039;s can see the daylight.. The initial design of the engine is completed, and the engine is amazing actually.. but it is a commercial suicide for proton with ultra high investment.. pity isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This car supposed to come with new family of engines that will be shared with few other &#8220;big&#8221; Proton cars (V6, V8 Supercharged, 2.2cc to 3 litre) but the whole project being scraped and resize, only some of Lotus&#8217;s can see the daylight.. The initial design of the engine is completed, and the engine is amazing actually.. but it is a commercial suicide for proton with ultra high investment.. pity isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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