I don’t mind jam if the highway is free (like Jalan Kuching)…but to pay for the jam, it is totally “tahi lumbu”….

on paper is simple..
u don’t pay.. issue letter to the address.. not pay.. issue summons.. thanks god.. it so easy flow chart..

in reality… how many car still don’t pay speeding ticket.. even ministry also don’t pay…and even worst when it deal with summons issue by local authority on parking..

the highway operator need cash/ money to run at least on a monthly basis..
if they can’t get the enough money to run th operation.. are they asking government for subsidize? who then be burden?

how about legal fees of taking them to the court for RM2.10 toll?
administration fee of paper taking/ printing evidence../ special officer dedicated to cater this issue..
or has to put petrol car at each toll booth.. chase one who not paying (also increase cost)
where.. the old system is good..

i’m using smart tag.. no problem so far.. only when there is a people like what i mentioned above in front of me.. one hand holding phone.. one hand holding smart tag. then stuck… blame the system..

I admit and we all must admit…. we Malaysian are not that very good in obeying the rules and regulation.. we ignore them..

study..it ok to study.. but i’m afraid that the commercial study (RM) will supersede the technical study (engineering feasibility).. hence a white elephant project created..

no use of spending rm20 for 20 cent problem…

If we require everybody to get license plate only from JPJ, then we should enforce it.
If we are to put MLFF, then we should enforce it.

But then, in London, one of the main problem cause by the camera system is that there are increased reports of stolen number plates!
Kalau tak percaya, you could google “London stolen number plates”

From Wall Street Journal
“Before the congestion charge took effect in February 2003, police didn’t bother to track stolen number plates, as they’re called in Britain, because so few incidents were reported. In 2004, nearly 6,000 plates were stolen, according to London’s Metropolitan Police. Reports of stolen plates in the city spiked to 9,777 last year. Up to 300 cars with illegal license plates enter London’s congestion charge area every day, according to the country’s Automotive Association.”

RT.

Simply the fact that Malaysia allows us to make our own number plates will indeed post some problems with motorist driving through the system with fake number plates and camera catching the culprit will definately be useless. But with everything comes problems, and the study will conclude if the system is fit for our country.

But i hope at the end of the day, this system will be utilised.

I actually know few malaysian engineers who design roads and highways.
The problem is not their design. Their (initial) design is good

The problem is that sometimes the design was altered by people-on-top to save cost, and to profit more..

RT

You pass without pay, ticket will be sent to the owners address registered in JPJ database.
The problem is what if I fake my license plate?..

RT

n again.. no need to study from singapore .. if they study from singapore guest what..

pay per entry to KL to be implemented..

So often we see the stupid workers crossing at the tolls and at 180km/h that would be a disaster if one of them had to be crossing!!

Moreover, how many times we see people sangkut at the toll because the system did not “capture” the device? Again at 180km/h, if the car in front of you sangkuts, only God could save you!

I know people here will screw me by saying who ask me to drive at 180km/h. Even at 60km/h is also dangerous! Think about it!

we should learn to be like Singapore’s ERP, but over there, their ERP is popping up everywhere so much so people complaining step out their house door already got 1 gantry.

and over here, we are not “law-abiding” to the word therefore enforcement will be tough, and private companies managing this will mean cronyism to avoid summons or so on.

not to say government managed won’t have the same problem….in the end, all this tolls and stuff are just short term remedies to a long term problem.

to begin with, the take up rate for existing smart tag system is so low that there’s hardly any jam in the queue is the traffic after the toll booth is clear. do we need another system to replace the existing under-utilised system? will the average joe use it? Or will we be back to sq one with another under-utilised system?

Next thing we’ll find gomen subsidising the tag replacement and wasting wang RAKYAT again.. worse, we are asked to purchase new replacement tag, what happens to existing readers? down sg. klang? What a waste…

Reason is simple, the existing SmartTag needs an upgrade where most of us paid at least RM100 for one — they’ll offer upgrade, say another RM100. There it goes about how “canggih” was the SmartTag.

Secondly, is it true the jam is at the toll or right after the toll! You know Malaysia-Boleh engineer can never design a proper road system. You’ve like 20 toll booths with 20 lanes but after you paid the fee, we’re all squeezing into as little as two lanes.

Thirdly, I’m seriously seriously seriously keen to know who’s behind all these i.e. the owner of this so-call new gadget, the vendor who’s upgrading the system and the one who manages the post-paid system.

Simple reason again, I wanna join that company because I can most probably be the next millionaire, if not billionaire…

Malaysian — we need to wake up!

and u said Y2K.. people will ignore all summons and wait until year end sale form Police

Singaporean is at different level of attitude ( when they in Singapore only)
compare to Malaysian..

The CARTAG is on a per car basis I think, and is attached to the ignition (no cell battery dependency). Its useless to steal either since it is registered to a particular car.

So if you have 3 cars be prepared to fork out for 3 tags.

But yes, beneficiaries will be Rangkaian Segar, and we all know who owns that.

The plus side is faster processing of cars la. This is ALL asuming we take the Singapore model.

What about Malaysia? When do you pay your traffic saman? Wait for discount or wait for them to block your road tax from being renewed!

Don’t forget also, toll is operated by private companies in Malaysia. So can they ’saman’ the people who don’t pay? Singapore ERP is run by government

take as a parking ticket.. it is a self notified mechanism.. u park ur car.. u get a parking ticket.. but how many of us do that..?? when there is a way to NOT TO PAY.. malaysian will do..

current system is ok.. except for some culprit who still want to blame the system but at actual case..
1. not enough credit
2. holding the reader by hand at a very last minutes
3. low battery not ignore the notfication
4. holding the smart tag in wrong face..(detection face show back ward)
5. oo.. wrong lane.

no use to solve 20cent problem with RM200 solution..

Car ownership is pretty stringent over in Dubai, so less chances of those not paying to “lari”.

The problem with this “free-flow” and london’s camera system is enforcement.
There are 2 enforcement involved:

1. Ensure that the people who go through are those who have the tags, and to fine those who does not have the tags.
2. Ensure that nobody uses false number plates.

The 2nd oneseems to be the hardest to enforce and it is the main reason that we still do not have free flow system in Malaysia.

The tag system is not new. The one used previously by GrandSaga, Litrak and Kesas do detect tags at very high speed.

The two-piece tags (as referred to a tag + TnG, similar to SmartTag) was proposed by MEPS in 2003, if I was not mistaken. But it was shot down by Kementerian Kerja Raya (read: Samy Vellu) when they implemented the “unified” TnG and SmartTag only system in Malaysia.
KKM ordered all non-SmartTag tags system to be removed, even though these tags are much-much better than SmartTag.

The deal is still a monopoly. It seems that Mitsubishi (or Mitsui) would be the supplier. The main beneficiary would still be RaingKaian Segar.

I would see a better solution if multiple card, multiple tag and multiple roadside equipment supplier are involved with multiple clearing house. LLM could enforce a unified protocol to all these suppliers to adhere to. These has been done in successfully in Europe.

RT

Anyway, more trial means more money. they need a trial to figure a way to stop ppl without either smart tag or the chip to go pass the toll without paying. that’s really stupid and also telling the ppl that if they speed up to 180 kph they can avoid paying toll. How silly…..