August 4, 2008 @ 3:49 am

you call this design concept? I think proton is so laid back. This is just like facelift to existing design. You will see this saga and satria neo for the next 10 years. It is beginning to sound boring.

AGREED WITH YOU BRO..

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i think it’s rather lame for Proton to come out with such stunt.

concept means the car is new and may or may not go into production. however, i see quite a lot of Neos and Sagas out on the roads.

before reading this thread further… i thought Proton really outdid themselves and have some new and exciting designs. but… all i see are just existing models with some make-overs.

like kena conned only…

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Function: adjective
Date: 1896
1 : organized around a main idea or theme
2 : created to illustrate a concept

As the shown Neo’s are organized around a main idea or theme, they therefore qualify the term “concept car” as well. Just because the automaking industry labels full-scale prototype models of design experiments as concept cars, doesn’t mean that is the only usage of the words “concept car”

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Technically, these cars can be considered concepts, as they were first unveiled during the launch of their respective models. Not a single satria neo was otr when desire n symphony was shown to the public, so yeah, i suppose it can be considered a concept.

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PS: Anyone know what model is that Momo exhaust tip? I wanna get one for my car…

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Thanks for understanding my point! I do read the news of the test drive MPV under the Wish body by Proton as posted by paul earlier. Ok, maybe you make a point there by not comparing the GTR with Proton MPV…then, what about Subaru Exiga? It’s too an MPV right? Didn’t Subaru unveild the final model to the world about it? My point is if you actually have a final product, then just show to the public la. Just b’coz you unveil it doesn’t mean you are arrogant but I don’t blame them if their want to be extra careful. Automotive industries is a very tough bussiness but if you were “afraid” of your competitor, then you just don’t belong in this industries! Cautious can…afraid NO!

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but to compare with GTR, is a bit unfair la. GTR is a niche product, unlike the mpv which is a mass market car. The GTR is also a product with “legend” status. you will just know that when nissan launches it, it will sell. it also has a totally different audience as compared to the the 911.

i think its good to see that proton is actually careful, and maybe a little afraid of perodua. at least it shows they are not arrogant, and are mindful of competition. In the past, they just launch cars, and expect they will sell automatically. now you can see that proton takes greater car with marketing, coming up with elaborate launches, teasers and previews.

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One more thing b4 I go to bed, yawn! There’s also nothing what you have post in your comments earlier were wrong either. You also have some point but the MPV that Paultan post in the earlier segment stated it’s going to be a 2009 model, right? If you test drive your prototype on the road, then camouflage it la from the people or your competitor. But if you actually have a finish product, then just unveil it to the public to see la. Even Nissan proudly display their final GTR in 2007 but sell it only as a year 2008 model. Somemore, bragging it to be the 911 Turbo competitor. They are not worry at Porsche and same should apply to Proton…they don’t have to be afraid of Perodua. Even their competitor Livina is already out in the market.

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personal = gen 2 + extended rear. y even bother to ‘peep-a-boo’? so that can cheat more ppl to book the car right? cos its suppose to be the hipped happening things to do right? so come ppl, peep lol.

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I don’t need any grandma to told me why the power window keeps failing too early. When Mitsubishi gave Proton the blue print to make cars, they told Proton to follow it to the core. If you need me to give you what you called “physic calculation “…I don’t have to! It’s not physic calculation but it’s more of “political calculation”! What Proton did it their early years (Tengku Mahalel era) was how to cut the bloody cost and forget about the quality, just give it to government cronies to made a low quality parts as long as there’s a car can be made. I know b’coz my cousin works there! Now, under the new management…Proton did improve on it’s quality. Do you know the rumors that Proton’s management might not renew Datuk Syed Zainal contract b’coz he the person who’s really strict on it’s quality? Maybe he gave to some local vendor which has more concern on their product’s quality rather than some “cronies”? This is Malaysia la friend, everything involves politics agenda!

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The meaning of CONCEPT in art and design is, something thought or imagined (imagination) principal of ideas. Go and look it in dictionary. Seriously, this is not a concept but merely a modification of EXISTING product that is in the current market. They called it a concept simply b’coz it’s sound much nicer than modified. That’s are just my personal opinion and LHQ did have some point! Why must a concept need to be hide? Have you ever read car magazine dude? A concept cars is what all the major car manufacturer doing by unveiling it to the whole world…not hiding it! And if this MPV does actually a finish prototype…then, it’s fine by me for them to hide it! Trust me when I say this, if Proton unveil their MPV they shouldn’t worry about Perodua…Perodua is nothing more than a clone manufacturer! Beside, Proton already did this “box with the hole” thing with the Saga. Just come out with something new la. Even Nissan gave the silhouette image of their new 370Z.

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constructive comments r critiques, not blind bashing tat thru grandma era stories, koreans improved a lot in the past 2 yrs! 2yrs!! u cant compare kia/hyundai that is 5yrs ago dude, so does proton’s!

u reserve ur right to comment, bash or critique, try to make it constructive (by that means thru information to support ur comments, n not from hear say, its automotive industry, engineering, not folklores…keep ur grandma stories of her friend’s cousin story to urself), show us some physic calculation n how do u think power windows motor fail so early, dnt just say it fail, since u talk till ur so expert, show us how it fails, give reason…then its call constructive comment, ur way, isnt responsible at all. freedom comes with price, when ur not responsible with what u spit out, u dnt deserve tat freedom of speech

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i know what constructive criticism is, and what LHQ said is definitely not it.

the point is, he said that by modding a neo, you cannot call it a concept car.

firstly, its a “NEO CONCEPT CAR”. how do you create a neo concept car, without modding a neo???

and you people have got the idea of the mpv peek all wrong.. its not a “concept MPV”. it was actually the actual bodyshell of the mpv due for launch next year. its not a concept… its work in progress, not a figment of imagination, but a real car. and in case you guys havent realised, proton will most likely be competing with nissan’s livina, and also perodua who are rumoured to be planning to bring in an mpv to compete with proton. perodua has kicked proton’s behind in sales before with the myvi, do you think they’re about to hand all their product info to them on a plate?

would you tell your competitors everything about your car?? for the last 2 years before the launch of the new corolla, did you see any proper pics? any interior pics? did you even see the shell of the car on display in malaysia? there was practically nothing. it was such a closely guarded secret. why so much secrecy? most people call the corolla a fridge, and its not exactly the best looking car in world.. so why the secrecy? are toyota stupid also? will everyone suddenly go out and make their cars look like a corolla??

how about the other manufacturers in malaysia who “hide” their cars from public view until launch when the cars are already sold in thailand and indonesia, and the whole world has seen them… somebody please enlighten me.

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