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	<title>Comments on: Proton Stingray motorcycle using carburetted 1.3L</title>
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		<title>By: shuk</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-300698</link>
		<dc:creator>shuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cumon guys... 
 
its just a prototype... 
 
theres no &quot;duit rakyat&quot; being spend for this bike. All of its from recycle parts. Just give them a bit support. maybe one day Orange County Choppers will &#039;tabik spring&#039; to them for they nxt chopper. 
 
But plz dont pruduce this bike...... its ugly.... hehehe... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cumon guys&#8230;</p>
<p>its just a prototype&#8230;</p>
<p>theres no &quot;duit rakyat&quot; being spend for this bike. All of its from recycle parts. Just give them a bit support. maybe one day Orange County Choppers will &#039;tabik spring&#039; to them for they nxt chopper.</p>
<p>But plz dont pruduce this bike&#8230;&#8230; its ugly&#8230;. hehehe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Haizi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haizi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 18:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Berapa harga moto ni...... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Berapa harga moto ni&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kambing Laut</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-289772</link>
		<dc:creator>Kambing Laut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 00:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lepas baca sok kabar utusan tadi baru tau pasal pari... 
nice.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lepas baca sok kabar utusan tadi baru tau pasal pari&#8230;</p>
<p>nice..</p>
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		<title>By: yippi33</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175199</link>
		<dc:creator>yippi33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve seen this bike in your previous post paul if im not mistaken??it uses extra+old components so no waste of R&amp;D money or so called &quot;wang rakyat&quot; is involved (rather being scrapped for nothing).about wasting time building this stuff..it is a good training for new and young engineers to enhance their skills in building cars..heck!! if you can make a car engine to move a two wheeler, then you should have the idea on how to move a four wheeler..weight distribution, who says building this prototype has nothing to do with car automotive..anyway, its just a prototype..its not necessary to put it in production and in fact, in the post clearly mentioned that its for training purposes..no issue of MV augusta and stuff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve seen this bike in your previous post paul if im not mistaken??it uses extra+old components so no waste of R&amp;D money or so called &#8220;wang rakyat&#8221; is involved (rather being scrapped for nothing).about wasting time building this stuff..it is a good training for new and young engineers to enhance their skills in building cars..heck!! if you can make a car engine to move a two wheeler, then you should have the idea on how to move a four wheeler..weight distribution, who says building this prototype has nothing to do with car automotive..anyway, its just a prototype..its not necessary to put it in production and in fact, in the post clearly mentioned that its for training purposes..no issue of MV augusta and stuff</p>
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		<title>By: cyborgx</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175178</link>
		<dc:creator>cyborgx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maj131529,

I beg you to use your common sense before posting. First off, you are giving examples of:

1) Honda developing ASIMO
2) Yamaha started as a musical instrument company …
3) Toyota has an annual event that promotes their engineers to build ‘wacky’ stuff the ‘violin playing’ robot.

You are comparing these R&amp;D technology to Proton assembling 1.3 cab engine to a motorbike? lol dude. It is not economically viable to put car engine to a motorbike, plus it was a cab engine. Old technology that does not contribute to fuel efficiency in any way. Unlike the examples you have given, they are future assets or presumably non-core assets to the company. ASIMO now is the most advanced humoid robot in the world. They are no &quot;toys&quot; to the company. 

Toyota has annual event that promotes engineers to build violin robot? check your facts dude. Toyota is a multinational conglomerate and also the world largest car manufacturer. They have division for R&amp;D in robotics and it is not relevant to automotive division. They have unlimited money to burn but we do not. They have sales distributions across asia pacific, north america and european market while we are hardly achieving that. 

Obviously, you are lacked of knowledge and you failed your common sense too. A typically jaguh kampung mentality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maj131529,</p>
<p>I beg you to use your common sense before posting. First off, you are giving examples of:</p>
<p>1) Honda developing ASIMO<br />
2) Yamaha started as a musical instrument company …<br />
3) Toyota has an annual event that promotes their engineers to build ‘wacky’ stuff the ‘violin playing’ robot.</p>
<p>You are comparing these R&amp;D technology to Proton assembling 1.3 cab engine to a motorbike? lol dude. It is not economically viable to put car engine to a motorbike, plus it was a cab engine. Old technology that does not contribute to fuel efficiency in any way. Unlike the examples you have given, they are future assets or presumably non-core assets to the company. ASIMO now is the most advanced humoid robot in the world. They are no &#8220;toys&#8221; to the company. </p>
<p>Toyota has annual event that promotes engineers to build violin robot? check your facts dude. Toyota is a multinational conglomerate and also the world largest car manufacturer. They have division for R&amp;D in robotics and it is not relevant to automotive division. They have unlimited money to burn but we do not. They have sales distributions across asia pacific, north america and european market while we are hardly achieving that. </p>
<p>Obviously, you are lacked of knowledge and you failed your common sense too. A typically jaguh kampung mentality.</p>
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		<title>By: rt</title>
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		<dc:creator>rt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr ALPINA BMW

FYI, Proton did make bikes.....

Anyways, it seems that any article on Proton would get high number of comments.
Seems that a lot of us do have love-hate relationship with proton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr ALPINA BMW</p>
<p>FYI, Proton did make bikes&#8230;..</p>
<p>Anyways, it seems that any article on Proton would get high number of comments.<br />
Seems that a lot of us do have love-hate relationship with proton.</p>
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		<title>By: zerachiel1986</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175163</link>
		<dc:creator>zerachiel1986</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proton is digging their grave.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proton is digging their grave&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Jie</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175150</link>
		<dc:creator>Jie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive my rant earlier, but maybe the point wasnt clear enough.

Well, yes BMW and Honda made bikes. But they are a company with fantastic cashflow, with little if any support or protection from their govt. They can do what they like with their money, and god, they make fantastic bikes that sell.

In contrast, Proton can hardly survive in open environment, without protection or some kind of assistance from its govt. Its cashflow is not that fantastic, and so cannot afford any diversion from its core business, for that is a luxury afforded by those with money. 

If you have a son who still depend on you for money, you expect him to spend that money wisely. Imagine the horror when you see him spend it on modding his bike, or buying sport rim on his perodua.

But I am ok if it is true that the engineers did this outside normal working hrs, with minimal expended by the mgmt on the parts.

Cheers everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive my rant earlier, but maybe the point wasnt clear enough.</p>
<p>Well, yes BMW and Honda made bikes. But they are a company with fantastic cashflow, with little if any support or protection from their govt. They can do what they like with their money, and god, they make fantastic bikes that sell.</p>
<p>In contrast, Proton can hardly survive in open environment, without protection or some kind of assistance from its govt. Its cashflow is not that fantastic, and so cannot afford any diversion from its core business, for that is a luxury afforded by those with money. </p>
<p>If you have a son who still depend on you for money, you expect him to spend that money wisely. Imagine the horror when you see him spend it on modding his bike, or buying sport rim on his perodua.</p>
<p>But I am ok if it is true that the engineers did this outside normal working hrs, with minimal expended by the mgmt on the parts.</p>
<p>Cheers everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Maddy-Kun</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175142</link>
		<dc:creator>Maddy-Kun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i guess maybe those thing happen because both automakers are connected to each other as we all know that proton also manufactured some parts for other cars too. ?? anyone with more information about this?? well without a proper prove, i cannot elaborate more, it&#039;s up to us to look up or look down on proton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i guess maybe those thing happen because both automakers are connected to each other as we all know that proton also manufactured some parts for other cars too. ?? anyone with more information about this?? well without a proper prove, i cannot elaborate more, it&#8217;s up to us to look up or look down on proton.</p>
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		<title>By: ericfoong81exe@</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175135</link>
		<dc:creator>ericfoong81exe@</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maddy-Kun said,
August 8, 2008 @ 11:53 am 
er?? renault ?? erm.. can u explain a bit? u mean the engine for savvy? the 1.2?

The Savvy engine i&#039;m not sure, but the air filter for Savvy, Gen 2 and BLM is all Renault parts...just the parts number the use is different...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maddy-Kun said,<br />
August 8, 2008 @ 11:53 am<br />
er?? renault ?? erm.. can u explain a bit? u mean the engine for savvy? the 1.2?</p>
<p>The Savvy engine i&#8217;m not sure, but the air filter for Savvy, Gen 2 and BLM is all Renault parts&#8230;just the parts number the use is different&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Max88</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175129</link>
		<dc:creator>Max88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton should R&amp;D test the bike on Mat Rempits. Real human body is better, cheaper than dummy biker.

Proton instead should use this bike R&amp;D money for:
- design better tailight for Gen2/ Persona, Waja (not traffic light or penis-like design)
- design better power window (all-time request)
- redo Campro CPS engine (still fuel inefficient)
- design more rust-resistant Saga drive shaft (phew!)
- redo completely Savvy rear design (fugly like that old Fiat car)
- re-align to the left exhaust for Savvy, Satria Neo (oddly balanced)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton should R&amp;D test the bike on Mat Rempits. Real human body is better, cheaper than dummy biker.</p>
<p>Proton instead should use this bike R&amp;D money for:<br />
- design better tailight for Gen2/ Persona, Waja (not traffic light or penis-like design)<br />
- design better power window (all-time request)<br />
- redo Campro CPS engine (still fuel inefficient)<br />
- design more rust-resistant Saga drive shaft (phew!)<br />
- redo completely Savvy rear design (fugly like that old Fiat car)<br />
- re-align to the left exhaust for Savvy, Satria Neo (oddly balanced)</p>
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		<title>By: ALPINA BMW</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175121</link>
		<dc:creator>ALPINA BMW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proton should make bicycles, its the only thing that won&#039;t have engine failure...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proton should make bicycles, its the only thing that won&#8217;t have engine failure&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bmpower</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175120</link>
		<dc:creator>bmpower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dodge a car maker also build a superbike. Named, Dodge Tomohawk. BMW somemore.. etc etc. 

What wrong with that? .. It&#039;s not only a toy for their designers.. but for better understanding of technical and engineering. Example.. For less vibration engine study, best suspension setup, less engine noise etc etc...  

Sometime.. we must look with a bright side of our brain.. not always with your black brain and black heart..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dodge a car maker also build a superbike. Named, Dodge Tomohawk. BMW somemore.. etc etc. </p>
<p>What wrong with that? .. It&#8217;s not only a toy for their designers.. but for better understanding of technical and engineering. Example.. For less vibration engine study, best suspension setup, less engine noise etc etc&#8230;  </p>
<p>Sometime.. we must look with a bright side of our brain.. not always with your black brain and black heart..</p>
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		<title>By: ik</title>
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		<dc:creator>ik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is crap.

sure, bmw and suxuki build bikes but they don&#039;t build their bikes using car engines and spare parts!

sure, honda built ASIMO and toyota built a robot that can plays the violin and they are building it for fun but you don&#039;t see the robots with car engine and spare parts!

if you were to build something, be it for the future or for fun, do it properly, do it in style.
make it presentable, and properly functional.
don&#039;t just simply build something out of car engine and parts.

looking at the bike, is it for fun? maybe. 
is it something for the future? not.
and remember, it was built by a bunch of engineers, from the proton prototype centre. heck, give me the proper tools and i think i can build this bike. you don&#039;t need to be an engineer to build it. what&#039;s more, engineers from a prototype centre.

don&#039;t get me wrong, if proton decided to build bikes and sell them, they will have my full support, but do it properly.

*oh, and it is the ugliest bike i&#039;ve seen in all my entire life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is crap.</p>
<p>sure, bmw and suxuki build bikes but they don&#8217;t build their bikes using car engines and spare parts!</p>
<p>sure, honda built ASIMO and toyota built a robot that can plays the violin and they are building it for fun but you don&#8217;t see the robots with car engine and spare parts!</p>
<p>if you were to build something, be it for the future or for fun, do it properly, do it in style.<br />
make it presentable, and properly functional.<br />
don&#8217;t just simply build something out of car engine and parts.</p>
<p>looking at the bike, is it for fun? maybe.<br />
is it something for the future? not.<br />
and remember, it was built by a bunch of engineers, from the proton prototype centre. heck, give me the proper tools and i think i can build this bike. you don&#8217;t need to be an engineer to build it. what&#8217;s more, engineers from a prototype centre.</p>
<p>don&#8217;t get me wrong, if proton decided to build bikes and sell them, they will have my full support, but do it properly.</p>
<p>*oh, and it is the ugliest bike i&#8217;ve seen in all my entire life.</p>
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		<title>By: torque</title>
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		<dc:creator>torque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with some...this bike is old news lah! But I have to agree with the rest...Roti Naan, Kahing, Jie, Abtm and Realeyes on matters they SHOULD get their priority RIGHT and STRAIGHT on building a better cars or researching and upgrading more on it&#039;s technology side. If the team at Proton building this bike purely on having extra time on their hands...heck, I don&#039;t have a problem with that if they could actually learn &quot;something&quot; out of it. Just PLEASE...and I HOPE they don&#039;t actually WASTE a huge amount of money on this!! Yes, BMW does have and built a bike under their belt but their cars a far much better built than ours. So, Proton still have a long way to go with their cars...a very long way to get there. Peace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with some&#8230;this bike is old news lah! But I have to agree with the rest&#8230;Roti Naan, Kahing, Jie, Abtm and Realeyes on matters they SHOULD get their priority RIGHT and STRAIGHT on building a better cars or researching and upgrading more on it&#8217;s technology side. If the team at Proton building this bike purely on having extra time on their hands&#8230;heck, I don&#8217;t have a problem with that if they could actually learn &#8220;something&#8221; out of it. Just PLEASE&#8230;and I HOPE they don&#8217;t actually WASTE a huge amount of money on this!! Yes, BMW does have and built a bike under their belt but their cars a far much better built than ours. So, Proton still have a long way to go with their cars&#8230;a very long way to get there. Peace!</p>
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		<title>By: peter1</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is Proton wasting time on motorcycles, after all, they have sold Augusta...Proton management should get their priorities right....identify niches where the big boys have missed...for example, the Islamic car idea is really cool...and they can have a unique brand and identity..just selling to OIC countries is more then enough...please FOCUS Proton!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is Proton wasting time on motorcycles, after all, they have sold Augusta&#8230;Proton management should get their priorities right&#8230;.identify niches where the big boys have missed&#8230;for example, the Islamic car idea is really cool&#8230;and they can have a unique brand and identity..just selling to OIC countries is more then enough&#8230;please FOCUS Proton!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Maddy-Kun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maddy-Kun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ericfoong81exe@ said,
August 8, 2008 @ 10:57 am 

Haih….if they are so free please do something new and unique, don’t always be a copy cat…..cut and paste and claim it is new and high tech…..stop getting other car’s part from Renault for Proton’s Car recently…
_____________________

er?? renault ?? erm.. can u explain a bit? u mean the engine for savvy? the 1.2?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ericfoong81exe@ said,<br />
August 8, 2008 @ 10:57 am </p>
<p>Haih….if they are so free please do something new and unique, don’t always be a copy cat…..cut and paste and claim it is new and high tech…..stop getting other car’s part from Renault for Proton’s Car recently…<br />
_____________________</p>
<p>er?? renault ?? erm.. can u explain a bit? u mean the engine for savvy? the 1.2?</p>
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		<title>By: car_craze</title>
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		<dc:creator>car_craze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the giant company Toyota (Toyoda then) first started out with the spinning loom. Look where they are now. We still wallow in negative thinking when major  Japanese car companies are having &#039;idea olympics&#039;. How sad.

http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=102&amp;i=3682. 

Check the above site for Toyota&#039;s &#039;ideas olympics&#039; and see the loony ideas proposed from their employees, just to create POSSIBILITIES for future development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the giant company Toyota (Toyoda then) first started out with the spinning loom. Look where they are now. We still wallow in negative thinking when major  Japanese car companies are having &#8216;idea olympics&#8217;. How sad.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=102&#038;i=3682" rel="nofollow">http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=102&#038;i=3682</a>. </p>
<p>Check the above site for Toyota&#8217;s &#8216;ideas olympics&#8217; and see the loony ideas proposed from their employees, just to create POSSIBILITIES for future development.</p>
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		<title>By: ericfoong81exe@</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175073</link>
		<dc:creator>ericfoong81exe@</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haih....if they are so free please do something new and unique, don&#039;t always be a copy cat.....cut and paste and claim it is new and high tech.....stop getting other car&#039;s part from Renault for Proton&#039;s Car recently...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haih&#8230;.if they are so free please do something new and unique, don&#8217;t always be a copy cat&#8230;..cut and paste and claim it is new and high tech&#8230;..stop getting other car&#8217;s part from Renault for Proton&#8217;s Car recently&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LHQ</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175072</link>
		<dc:creator>LHQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should I compare it with the Dodge Tomahawk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should I compare it with the Dodge Tomahawk?</p>
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		<title>By: ardley</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175068</link>
		<dc:creator>ardley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thats why their mpv never finish.. they are doing other thing... hehehehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats why their mpv never finish.. they are doing other thing&#8230; hehehehe</p>
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		<title>By: narrowband</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175060</link>
		<dc:creator>narrowband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope they don&#039;t jump into mass-production for this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope they don&#8217;t jump into mass-production for this one.</p>
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		<title>By: raverus</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175059</link>
		<dc:creator>raverus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton, bolehkah?
Sorry to sound negative; you planted and big question mark for the past 20 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton, bolehkah?<br />
Sorry to sound negative; you planted and big question mark for the past 20 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Aril</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175056</link>
		<dc:creator>Aril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if Merc or BMW or let say Perodua make their bike,

Simply put car V8 engine / Myvi engine?

hehehehehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Merc or BMW or let say Perodua make their bike,</p>
<p>Simply put car V8 engine / Myvi engine?</p>
<p>hehehehehe</p>
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		<title>By: Aril</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175054</link>
		<dc:creator>Aril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>owh god, 1.5 engine, same inside my iswara. Damn fool....

Normaly bike like this will have V shape engine, but this one, megavalve engine... complete with all iswara/wira/satria used gear box. hahahahaha... funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>owh god, 1.5 engine, same inside my iswara. Damn fool&#8230;.</p>
<p>Normaly bike like this will have V shape engine, but this one, megavalve engine&#8230; complete with all iswara/wira/satria used gear box. hahahahaha&#8230; funny.</p>
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		<title>By: farghmee</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175050</link>
		<dc:creator>farghmee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this motorbike thingy is an old story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this motorbike thingy is an old story.</p>
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		<title>By: edperdana</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175049</link>
		<dc:creator>edperdana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton engineering should invest and do more R&amp;D into the quality of their parts..can the crap suppliers if they cannot deliver instead of the status quo of overcharging their customers for sub standard  quality parts.

Cmon guys get your act together and priorities right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton engineering should invest and do more R&amp;D into the quality of their parts..can the crap suppliers if they cannot deliver instead of the status quo of overcharging their customers for sub standard  quality parts.</p>
<p>Cmon guys get your act together and priorities right!</p>
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		<title>By: scottloeb</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175046</link>
		<dc:creator>scottloeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with car_craze.. Prototype shop is where all the ideas came alive, the first arena was built there before the designer (Engineering/CAE it is) take charge, its like kedai potong (with the rules, of course). They take the best technician, painter, mechanics to work there.. all P-cars (prototype, or the japanese called goushi/henkaku) body being built there before the tooling being approved and going for mass production. So its logic and make sense for them to built something like this. Furthermore, i dont really think they need to spend that much money, it&#039;s not something like G2 soft top or anything else that require special tooling. Cuma, maybe bikes and Perusahaan Otomobil just dont jive but, hey, thay did built bicycle (and a good one even if the engineering team swears like hell coz no value add) haha ask the old mgmt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with car_craze.. Prototype shop is where all the ideas came alive, the first arena was built there before the designer (Engineering/CAE it is) take charge, its like kedai potong (with the rules, of course). They take the best technician, painter, mechanics to work there.. all P-cars (prototype, or the japanese called goushi/henkaku) body being built there before the tooling being approved and going for mass production. So its logic and make sense for them to built something like this. Furthermore, i dont really think they need to spend that much money, it&#8217;s not something like G2 soft top or anything else that require special tooling. Cuma, maybe bikes and Perusahaan Otomobil just dont jive but, hey, thay did built bicycle (and a good one even if the engineering team swears like hell coz no value add) haha ask the old mgmt</p>
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		<title>By: maj131529</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175045</link>
		<dc:creator>maj131529</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honda engineers developed the ASIMO as a &#039;fun&#039; thing too ...

Yamaha started as a musical instrument company ...

Toyota has an annual event that promotes their engineers to build &#039;wacky&#039; stuff the &#039;violin playing&#039; robot ...

The reason why Malaysian companies cannot make it BIG can be clearly seen by the posts here. By that I mean the negativity, short sightedness and the lack of knowledge from the Malaysian masses in giving out such comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honda engineers developed the ASIMO as a &#8216;fun&#8217; thing too &#8230;</p>
<p>Yamaha started as a musical instrument company &#8230;</p>
<p>Toyota has an annual event that promotes their engineers to build &#8216;wacky&#8217; stuff the &#8216;violin playing&#8217; robot &#8230;</p>
<p>The reason why Malaysian companies cannot make it BIG can be clearly seen by the posts here. By that I mean the negativity, short sightedness and the lack of knowledge from the Malaysian masses in giving out such comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Realeyes</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/07/proton-stingray-motorcycle-using-carburetted-13l/#comment-175043</link>
		<dc:creator>Realeyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They better start doing something useful, and related to their core business, ie car. Or they could fiddle with alternative energy&#039;s car like a solar powered one or hybrid. We have unlimited supply of sunshine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They better start doing something useful, and related to their core business, ie car. Or they could fiddle with alternative energy&#8217;s car like a solar powered one or hybrid. We have unlimited supply of sunshine!</p>
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