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	<title>Comments on: GM willing to restart talks with Proton</title>
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		<title>By: maibatsu_thunder</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-176619</link>
		<dc:creator>maibatsu_thunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully they won&#039;t tell their customers &quot;HOW DOES IT CONCERN YOU!?&quot; when you ask them about spare parts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully they won&#8217;t tell their customers &#8220;HOW DOES IT CONCERN YOU!?&#8221; when you ask them about spare parts.</p>
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		<title>By: rexis</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-176066</link>
		<dc:creator>rexis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You come with sincere, of coz I willing to have a lim teh session with you lar.

If you are a reputable japanese company but hving financial problems, people might consider put in money and keep you in charge.

You only can sell you car locally but you not only want huge investment, but want to be in charge also? Its just another headline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You come with sincere, of coz I willing to have a lim teh session with you lar.</p>
<p>If you are a reputable japanese company but hving financial problems, people might consider put in money and keep you in charge.</p>
<p>You only can sell you car locally but you not only want huge investment, but want to be in charge also? Its just another headline.</p>
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		<title>By: ALPINA BMW</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-176032</link>
		<dc:creator>ALPINA BMW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rajtheboss
that is because people who can afford toyota&#039;s here drive proton, those who can afford bmw&#039;s drive toyota&#039;s and those that can afford ferrari&#039;s drive lamborghini&#039;s, why? becos stupid G force us buy proton cars</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rajtheboss<br />
that is because people who can afford toyota&#8217;s here drive proton, those who can afford bmw&#8217;s drive toyota&#8217;s and those that can afford ferrari&#8217;s drive lamborghini&#8217;s, why? becos stupid G force us buy proton cars</p>
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		<title>By: farghmee</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175995</link>
		<dc:creator>farghmee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t rush to get a partner as yet.
the proton &amp; khazanah think-tanks should thoroughly overview this &quot;proposal&quot;.
ah, most important is: GOOD QUALITY is as important as PRIDE.

do u know what &quot;made in germany&quot; means in the old days? 
u&#039;ll be surprised ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t rush to get a partner as yet.<br />
the proton &amp; khazanah think-tanks should thoroughly overview this &#8220;proposal&#8221;.<br />
ah, most important is: GOOD QUALITY is as important as PRIDE.</p>
<p>do u know what &#8220;made in germany&#8221; means in the old days?<br />
u&#8217;ll be surprised <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: chee89</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175986</link>
		<dc:creator>chee89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton must choose their partner well, if they are going to collaborate. 
personally, i think going with GM is a bad idea. American cars arent usually the best of qualities as well. Much rather go with a German or Japanese company. They are more quality-driven cultured-companies and will ensure that quality is essential. 

Proton only needs to put their A game on into the quality build and control. That will make people HAVE to buy proton, but actually WANT to buy proton. 

Hopefully, we&#039;ll see a day that Proton can step up onto the international platform of automotive industry and ACTUALLY compete instead of dumping their products in UK and Australia and woo them with cheap prices for shitty products.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton must choose their partner well, if they are going to collaborate.<br />
personally, i think going with GM is a bad idea. American cars arent usually the best of qualities as well. Much rather go with a German or Japanese company. They are more quality-driven cultured-companies and will ensure that quality is essential. </p>
<p>Proton only needs to put their A game on into the quality build and control. That will make people HAVE to buy proton, but actually WANT to buy proton. </p>
<p>Hopefully, we&#8217;ll see a day that Proton can step up onto the international platform of automotive industry and ACTUALLY compete instead of dumping their products in UK and Australia and woo them with cheap prices for shitty products.</p>
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		<title>By: rajtheboss</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175985</link>
		<dc:creator>rajtheboss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton does not required foreign partner to survive, malaysian ppl is enough to support them forever by buying crappy car from proton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton does not required foreign partner to survive, malaysian ppl is enough to support them forever by buying crappy car from proton.</p>
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		<title>By: delos3nos</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175984</link>
		<dc:creator>delos3nos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton does not need any partner but they need one thing is to tutup kedai</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton does not need any partner but they need one thing is to tutup kedai</p>
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		<title>By: SatriaGuy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175983</link>
		<dc:creator>SatriaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pride isn&#039;t the element that is making our companies uncompetitive. Pride, in fact, is what makes nations like the USA and Japan what they are today.

It&#039;s common purpose that is missing from our corporations. Too many people in Malaysia are self-indulgent, that&#039;s why we get crap politicians and businessmen. 

And you can blame yourself too if you keep stepping and crushing Proton&#039;s attempt to become a global player. 

Realise that to become a great nation we have to have a common goal and one that are beneficial to all, not some of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pride isn&#8217;t the element that is making our companies uncompetitive. Pride, in fact, is what makes nations like the USA and Japan what they are today.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s common purpose that is missing from our corporations. Too many people in Malaysia are self-indulgent, that&#8217;s why we get crap politicians and businessmen. </p>
<p>And you can blame yourself too if you keep stepping and crushing Proton&#8217;s attempt to become a global player. </p>
<p>Realise that to become a great nation we have to have a common goal and one that are beneficial to all, not some of us.</p>
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		<title>By: japankiller</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175977</link>
		<dc:creator>japankiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Admit that we malaysian are still having long way to go become S&#039;pore and Japan like developed country.

Put down our pride, may be you could have see a Holden Commmodore being assemble in m&#039;sia but selling in Australia or some Middle East Country one day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admit that we malaysian are still having long way to go become S&#8217;pore and Japan like developed country.</p>
<p>Put down our pride, may be you could have see a Holden Commmodore being assemble in m&#8217;sia but selling in Australia or some Middle East Country one day.</p>
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		<title>By: japankiller</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175975</link>
		<dc:creator>japankiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess Proton has too much problem on their previous financial statement which can not be review to their potential partner.

I don&#039;t see any reason why should Proton reject foreign partner since they gain more on joint venture than they lose, do you think national proud of having proton by pure malaysian company does mean that malaysian are smart a full of capabilities, do not being fool by those politician statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess Proton has too much problem on their previous financial statement which can not be review to their potential partner.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see any reason why should Proton reject foreign partner since they gain more on joint venture than they lose, do you think national proud of having proton by pure malaysian company does mean that malaysian are smart a full of capabilities, do not being fool by those politician statement.</p>
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		<title>By: ALPINA BMW</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175954</link>
		<dc:creator>ALPINA BMW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not really, volkswagen seems to be the only people successful in mergers, gm brought down saab&#039;s level, bmw couldn&#039;t handle rover, ford bought their own funeral...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not really, volkswagen seems to be the only people successful in mergers, gm brought down saab&#8217;s level, bmw couldn&#8217;t handle rover, ford bought their own funeral&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175952</link>
		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like the idea. Basically this is a worse partnership compared to VW or PSA. Detroit car makers are only good at making trucks and muscle cars. You&#039;d be suprise how a big engine generates so small power.
Only thing I care is proton must make profits. new MD doing that, only hope momentum continues and does not stop half way. Other thing is that, don&#039;t depend on Malaysian market. So small market, how are you going to succeed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like the idea. Basically this is a worse partnership compared to VW or PSA. Detroit car makers are only good at making trucks and muscle cars. You&#8217;d be suprise how a big engine generates so small power.<br />
Only thing I care is proton must make profits. new MD doing that, only hope momentum continues and does not stop half way. Other thing is that, don&#8217;t depend on Malaysian market. So small market, how are you going to succeed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: xg9</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175925</link>
		<dc:creator>xg9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>julian lee seems to like golf so much... hmmmmmm.... hehe..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>julian lee seems to like golf so much&#8230; hmmmmmm&#8230;. hehe..</p>
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		<title>By: PROTON SUCKS</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175917</link>
		<dc:creator>PROTON SUCKS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no way, i want volkswagen, volkswagen rulz, look how gm fucked up saab</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no way, i want volkswagen, volkswagen rulz, look how gm fucked up saab</p>
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		<title>By: payid430</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175914</link>
		<dc:creator>payid430</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>should or must Proton JV with GM?...
but we should remember bout this JV...
it happen to our local tyre maker...SIME TYRES.....
JV with CONTINENTAL.......
before this the factory name like this &quot;SIME TYRES continental&quot;....
but now it change to be like this &quot;CONTINENTAL sime tyres&quot;......
so what will happen to PROTON next...
think by yorself...&quot;Lu Fikir la Sendiri...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>should or must Proton JV with GM?&#8230;<br />
but we should remember bout this JV&#8230;<br />
it happen to our local tyre maker&#8230;SIME TYRES&#8230;..<br />
JV with CONTINENTAL&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
before this the factory name like this &#8220;SIME TYRES continental&#8221;&#8230;.<br />
but now it change to be like this &#8220;CONTINENTAL sime tyres&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
so what will happen to PROTON next&#8230;<br />
think by yorself&#8230;&#8221;Lu Fikir la Sendiri&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: torque</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175912</link>
		<dc:creator>torque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I agree that Proton need a foreign partner, I do not think that partner with GM is such a GREAT idea even though they are one of the BIGGEST car manufacturer in the world. First and foremost, they are losing money...BIG time! Second, they actually doesn&#039;t have any great technology to offer esp. in fuel consumption area. The only thing they could offer to Proton is BIGGER engine with BIGGER performance with BIGGER fuel consumption. Hmmm...I honestly think Proton will gain more to partner with the Korean (if the Japs refuse to partner) since the Korean could offer a world class cabin build quality that Proton seems lack of it! That makes more sense since the current engine technology is sufficient enuff for the next few years. Happy motoring everyone... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I agree that Proton need a foreign partner, I do not think that partner with GM is such a GREAT idea even though they are one of the BIGGEST car manufacturer in the world. First and foremost, they are losing money&#8230;BIG time! Second, they actually doesn&#8217;t have any great technology to offer esp. in fuel consumption area. The only thing they could offer to Proton is BIGGER engine with BIGGER performance with BIGGER fuel consumption. Hmmm&#8230;I honestly think Proton will gain more to partner with the Korean (if the Japs refuse to partner) since the Korean could offer a world class cabin build quality that Proton seems lack of it! That makes more sense since the current engine technology is sufficient enuff for the next few years. Happy motoring everyone&#8230; <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rt</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175902</link>
		<dc:creator>rt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are waht they like:
american: 1/4 mile drag.
european: 24hr endurance / rally
japanese: drift down mt akina/haruna

From there, that how they develop their technology.
american: muscle car , gas guzzler
european: reliability, handling
japanese: good looks, less fuel (sell tofu maaa.. need to safe fuel)

proton mush have combination of european + japanese.
No need american muscle..

rt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are waht they like:<br />
american: 1/4 mile drag.<br />
european: 24hr endurance / rally<br />
japanese: drift down mt akina/haruna</p>
<p>From there, that how they develop their technology.<br />
american: muscle car , gas guzzler<br />
european: reliability, handling<br />
japanese: good looks, less fuel (sell tofu maaa.. need to safe fuel)</p>
<p>proton mush have combination of european + japanese.<br />
No need american muscle..</p>
<p>rt.</p>
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		<title>By: dcwhz83</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175901</link>
		<dc:creator>dcwhz83</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VW do offer more synergy to Proton... VW&#039;s superior technology and experience in chassis and parts sharing especially among Audi, Seat, Skoda is more useful for Proton... VW has the all-important diesel engine technology, DSG gearbox etc which would benefit consumers like us and filled in the most critical gap in Proton&#039;s R&amp;D which is diesel engine which is moving to EURO V std soon... fuel efficiency is in the mind of Malaysians and u cant go wrong with VW... VW is known for quality and fuel efficiency which Proton needs atm for synerygy...

GM&#039;s inability to tackle the oil issue alrdy shown that they are not far-sighted enough and i am not interested in GM&#039;s car line-up as they are not so suitable in this region now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VW do offer more synergy to Proton&#8230; VW&#8217;s superior technology and experience in chassis and parts sharing especially among Audi, Seat, Skoda is more useful for Proton&#8230; VW has the all-important diesel engine technology, DSG gearbox etc which would benefit consumers like us and filled in the most critical gap in Proton&#8217;s R&amp;D which is diesel engine which is moving to EURO V std soon&#8230; fuel efficiency is in the mind of Malaysians and u cant go wrong with VW&#8230; VW is known for quality and fuel efficiency which Proton needs atm for synerygy&#8230;</p>
<p>GM&#8217;s inability to tackle the oil issue alrdy shown that they are not far-sighted enough and i am not interested in GM&#8217;s car line-up as they are not so suitable in this region now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: abtm</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175898</link>
		<dc:creator>abtm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think GM&#039;s plan is to sweet talk proton into the seal, then after a couple of years then start building daewoos using proton factory...slowly, there will be no more proton, just the name</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think GM&#8217;s plan is to sweet talk proton into the seal, then after a couple of years then start building daewoos using proton factory&#8230;slowly, there will be no more proton, just the name</p>
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		<title>By: Hikaru</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175891</link>
		<dc:creator>Hikaru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>German Tech v US of A tech? Surely that&#039;s a foregone conclusion. They missed the boat already. Too late....VW is the better choice with the bigger global presence and technology. 

Sigh, I am a consumer and I don&#039;t want GM cars rebadged as proton sold at a cheaper price. I want VW cars rebadged as protons and sold at a cheaper price. 

Let them do the economics. I just want my VW cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>German Tech v US of A tech? Surely that&#8217;s a foregone conclusion. They missed the boat already. Too late&#8230;.VW is the better choice with the bigger global presence and technology. </p>
<p>Sigh, I am a consumer and I don&#8217;t want GM cars rebadged as proton sold at a cheaper price. I want VW cars rebadged as protons and sold at a cheaper price. </p>
<p>Let them do the economics. I just want my VW cars.</p>
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		<title>By: farghmee</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175883</link>
		<dc:creator>farghmee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;GM says Proton can come talk anytime, Proton says GM can come talk to Khazanah anytime&quot;

i say GM can come talk to Khazanah anytime, not the other way around.
GM&#039;s profit sinks but it offers Proton to come and talk? cocky!

from my understanding (source: wikipedia) GM got many trouble: from financial losses to environmental issues. this won&#039;t help Proton much.

GM produces fuel guzzler cars. Do Proton need this image? I&#039;m doubtful of their reliability in those hybrid technology. Lotus has the tech already.

Hm..what Proton need is QUALITY, so it should find partner that would provide QUALITY. if VW fails, try BMW instead.

it smells fishy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;GM says Proton can come talk anytime, Proton says GM can come talk to Khazanah anytime&#8221;</p>
<p>i say GM can come talk to Khazanah anytime, not the other way around.<br />
GM&#8217;s profit sinks but it offers Proton to come and talk? cocky!</p>
<p>from my understanding (source: wikipedia) GM got many trouble: from financial losses to environmental issues. this won&#8217;t help Proton much.</p>
<p>GM produces fuel guzzler cars. Do Proton need this image? I&#8217;m doubtful of their reliability in those hybrid technology. Lotus has the tech already.</p>
<p>Hm..what Proton need is QUALITY, so it should find partner that would provide QUALITY. if VW fails, try BMW instead.</p>
<p>it smells fishy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: car_craze</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way i that is see it is that if the collaboration thing goes through it will be more of a technical partner and  component supplier, rather than a majority shareholder of PROTON. 

As someone has already pointed out GM is making losses and they are the one who is actually desperate to finad another partner in S.E. Asia to expand their models and marketing arm. And hopefully go back in the black.
So Khazanah and PROTON must be careful when dealing with &#039;foreign partners&#039; to achieve a win-win situation for survival of the company in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way i that is see it is that if the collaboration thing goes through it will be more of a technical partner and  component supplier, rather than a majority shareholder of PROTON. </p>
<p>As someone has already pointed out GM is making losses and they are the one who is actually desperate to finad another partner in S.E. Asia to expand their models and marketing arm. And hopefully go back in the black.<br />
So Khazanah and PROTON must be careful when dealing with &#8216;foreign partners&#8217; to achieve a win-win situation for survival of the company in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: proud2BMalaysian</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175875</link>
		<dc:creator>proud2BMalaysian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Proton should buy GM&#039;s stake instead. We are starting to make profit but they&#039;re making losses. That&#039;s why now GM want to nego with Proton, so that Proton&#039;s profit can cover their losses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Proton should buy GM&#8217;s stake instead. We are starting to make profit but they&#8217;re making losses. That&#8217;s why now GM want to nego with Proton, so that Proton&#8217;s profit can cover their losses.</p>
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		<title>By: n8cky</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175858</link>
		<dc:creator>n8cky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was that about image? or &quot;we&#039;re mass producers&quot; conversation? or, we&#039;re Malaysian, Asian, not going to collaborate? We can learn lotz of lessons, but never learn how to compromise it.
Btw, looking into the current market, of &quot;trust level&quot;, or kind &quot;major Proton user&quot; statistic. I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s a good choice to have their share, and looking forward for increase in return.
I would say, come on, do something different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was that about image? or &#8220;we&#8217;re mass producers&#8221; conversation? or, we&#8217;re Malaysian, Asian, not going to collaborate? We can learn lotz of lessons, but never learn how to compromise it.<br />
Btw, looking into the current market, of &#8220;trust level&#8221;, or kind &#8220;major Proton user&#8221; statistic. I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s a good choice to have their share, and looking forward for increase in return.<br />
I would say, come on, do something different.</p>
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		<title>By: ignas</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175857</link>
		<dc:creator>ignas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i mean apologies for misunderstood your statements. man, i better get some sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i mean apologies for misunderstood your statements. man, i better get some sleep.</p>
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		<title>By: ignas</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175856</link>
		<dc:creator>ignas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh...sry i got carried away by off topic... my apologies. but what i said is based on my sole experiences. and i apologies again for off topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh&#8230;sry i got carried away by off topic&#8230; my apologies. but what i said is based on my sole experiences. and i apologies again for off topic.</p>
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		<title>By: maibatsu_thunder</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175854</link>
		<dc:creator>maibatsu_thunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not talking about Proton. This was a Chevrolet (GM) guy!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not talking about Proton. This was a Chevrolet (GM) guy!!</p>
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		<title>By: SatriaGuy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175850</link>
		<dc:creator>SatriaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what does GM - or for that matter any other giant car company in the world - see the business value in acquiring Proton is? 

Just when we thought that they don&#039;t need a foreign partner after securing a manufacturing deal in China (remember?) and India, now, all of a sudden, the government thinks it needs a partner.

Is the government cutting its funding to the National Car Company? I suspect so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what does GM &#8211; or for that matter any other giant car company in the world &#8211; see the business value in acquiring Proton is? </p>
<p>Just when we thought that they don&#8217;t need a foreign partner after securing a manufacturing deal in China (remember?) and India, now, all of a sudden, the government thinks it needs a partner.</p>
<p>Is the government cutting its funding to the National Car Company? I suspect so.</p>
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		<title>By: ignas</title>
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		<dc:creator>ignas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maibatsu_thunder, as usual proton and their arrogant attitude services. they cant even give us proper simple explanations. so now we dont have the rights to know? or maybe they are not professionally well trained. is that how proton recruits assholes. wow, we are so saved by proton because they give us great jobs! bottom line, join proton if ya wan to be an asshole and make a fool of out of yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maibatsu_thunder, as usual proton and their arrogant attitude services. they cant even give us proper simple explanations. so now we dont have the rights to know? or maybe they are not professionally well trained. is that how proton recruits assholes. wow, we are so saved by proton because they give us great jobs! bottom line, join proton if ya wan to be an asshole and make a fool of out of yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: God.of.War</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/13/gm-willing-to-restart-talks-with-proton/#comment-175845</link>
		<dc:creator>God.of.War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with u all, if all the managemant just love the automobile industry, i thk all gonna be okay, they just love the money, but do not have the spirit to love in the automobile job !

Their salary not good enuf ar? how much do they want? y so greedy? they all play dirty with money ar?

GM is going down, y must share with them also, don let them be like Japs, so stingy about technology !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with u all, if all the managemant just love the automobile industry, i thk all gonna be okay, they just love the money, but do not have the spirit to love in the automobile job !</p>
<p>Their salary not good enuf ar? how much do they want? y so greedy? they all play dirty with money ar?</p>
<p>GM is going down, y must share with them also, don let them be like Japs, so stingy about technology !</p>
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