Top Gear is a joke….. cant be taken seriously.

If you want real facts then Fifth Gear.

Korean are known for only price advantage full stop….. Quality nope,
Reliability.. nope their engine dont last.

“Helped greatly by its huge price advantage, the Hyundai Genesis edges out the Lexus GS 350 by a cumulative score of 68.5 to 66.3. It just doesn’t get closer than that”. Edmund… so price advantage is the key not the sum of component put together.

BTW if you go to http://www.hyundaigenesis.com/#/performance/

They are pitting against high end BMW like 7 series 750i and 550i and Merc E550…. So should I conclude Hyundai is better?. Looks like Hyundai which is half the price is doing well against the German power house?.
So does this mean overall Hyundai is a better car due to half the price.?.

BTW way King : Can you explain to me what is Soul in terms of Automotive language?.

i think you didn’t listen to what they mention…lexus actually lost in the comparo. mainly overall being not as value for money as the bigger genesis. i.e …you are just paying for the badge.

That’s your own claimed fact.
Yeah reliability, I blame that to the owner of the car. Everything is manufacture to the same standard and same production line, why others don’t suffer but you do. I drive an E39 and it don’t stall by the roadside, raining.
There’s demand, of course there will be supply. I can make more with a Ferrari workshop, but there’s so little Ferrari on the road.

After a rigorous test on comfort, handling, slaloms, braking, acceleration, interior fittings, quality materials, utilities etc, the Genesis scored higher than the GS. Losing out only on average fuel consumption (understandably for 4.6 V8 VS 3.5 V6), and steering feedback.
Enough said.

I said Genesis & GS not the car company. Germans stand higher than Lexus & Hyundai so either H beat L or L beat H is alright.

Pls go see the video again. Genesis beat lexus in price but Lexus trashed the Hyungay in all the test. Even with 4.6 v8 vs 3.5 v6. Lexus is quicker. ha ha ha

If you think Hyundai can beat Lexus then where does Germans stand.

Hyundai Better than BMW and Merc???. Sounds absurd rite.

Anyway facts are facts there is no denying ….Lexus has beaten the german in most of the area.
The only area they are above jap is :
1) Badge value
2) Handling.

Other than that German cars are only good as the warranty. After that game over. Dont believe me go to the club and listen to the whining. Oh my 3 month old BMW is giving me heartache….blah blah blah. Or next time there is a heavy rain most likely you will see Merc or BMW broken down.

I seriously would like to thinking German cars are better than jap but when I hear and see German horror story …. you cant help seriously doubting the credentials.

By the way In terms of quality Audi beats BMW and Merc handsdown. This is fact.

Thought of the day : Ask yourselves this “Why is there so many Merc & BMW specialist” ?. Answer : You can make a killing repairing conti cos problems keep comming back like cancer slowly spread.

Genesis BEAT Lexus GS.
Edmunds.com

I think you missed the point…… which car are u talking about now Audi? Merc & BMW. MERC and BMW is the one without AWD remember…….

What’s Audi climbing 45 degrees got to do with BMW and Merc not implementing AWD in their line up.?

Agreed…. AWD doesn’t make you superman but it help in a tricky situation.

So back to your statement that “Because Merc BMW don’t need an AWD to make their car better”.

So you are saying Audi Quattro is lousy without AWD?.

Let me remind you Audi Has been using the Quattro system for the last 30 years from Rally to road.

August 24, 2008 @ 9:15 pm

Because Merc BMW don’t need an AWD to make their car better.

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For the sake of useless comment, you must have been eaten sai a lot.