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	<title>Comments on: New Renault Symbol sedan based on Renault Clio</title>
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		<title>By: hegonc</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177570</link>
		<dc:creator>hegonc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some hatchback based sedan but the majority is not the current european version..

In brazil these Companies has local manufactures.
Chevrolet, Fiat, VW, Ford, Fiat, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Citroen, Peugeot, Audi
here some of the most popular cars of Brazil
the GM Astra is the old astra(opel astra),
Our current Vectra is the current european Astra, and the hatchback is called Vectra GT
we&#039;ve got the family Corsa, Corsa HB, Sedan, tiny Pick-up...
www.chevrolet.com.br

Our VW there are the whole products, although our Golf is a facelifted version of generation IV, but the majority of internacional cars are imported from Mexico. The Gol is the best-selling car in Brazil.
www.vw.com.br

Our Ford, now, is going to launch the new Focus HB(hatchback) and Sedan.
We&#039;ve got the local version of Ford Ka (www.fordka.com.br) its nice!
www.ford.com.br

Also we&#039;ve got
www.citroen.com.br (C3, C4 VTR, C4 Sedan, old version of Picasso,
www.renault.com.br (clio II HB e sedan, megane HB, sedan, convertible, Stationwagon, Sandero e Logan) No Laguna at all.
www.fiat.com.br (Punto, Linea (is going to be launched), Stilo
www.honda.com.br (Civic, Fit (Jazz))
www.peugeot.com.br (the owlfull brazilian version of 207, 307 HB sedan Stationwagon)

Brazilian Currency (REAL) worths 1,65 US$
Well, how your market works?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some hatchback based sedan but the majority is not the current european version..</p>
<p>In brazil these Companies has local manufactures.<br />
Chevrolet, Fiat, VW, Ford, Fiat, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Citroen, Peugeot, Audi<br />
here some of the most popular cars of Brazil<br />
the GM Astra is the old astra(opel astra),<br />
Our current Vectra is the current european Astra, and the hatchback is called Vectra GT<br />
we&#8217;ve got the family Corsa, Corsa HB, Sedan, tiny Pick-up&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.chevrolet.com.br" rel="nofollow">http://www.chevrolet.com.br</a></p>
<p>Our VW there are the whole products, although our Golf is a facelifted version of generation IV, but the majority of internacional cars are imported from Mexico. The Gol is the best-selling car in Brazil.<br />
<a href="http://www.vw.com.br" rel="nofollow">http://www.vw.com.br</a></p>
<p>Our Ford, now, is going to launch the new Focus HB(hatchback) and Sedan.<br />
We&#8217;ve got the local version of Ford Ka (www.fordka.com.br) its nice!<br />
<a href="http://www.ford.com.br" rel="nofollow">http://www.ford.com.br</a></p>
<p>Also we&#8217;ve got<br />
<a href="http://www.citroen.com.br" rel="nofollow">http://www.citroen.com.br</a> (C3, C4 VTR, C4 Sedan, old version of Picasso,<br />
<a href="http://www.renault.com.br" rel="nofollow">http://www.renault.com.br</a> (clio II HB e sedan, megane HB, sedan, convertible, Stationwagon, Sandero e Logan) No Laguna at all.<br />
<a href="http://www.fiat.com.br" rel="nofollow">http://www.fiat.com.br</a> (Punto, Linea (is going to be launched), Stilo<br />
<a href="http://www.honda.com.br" rel="nofollow">http://www.honda.com.br</a> (Civic, Fit (Jazz))<br />
<a href="http://www.peugeot.com.br" rel="nofollow">http://www.peugeot.com.br</a> (the owlfull brazilian version of 207, 307 HB sedan Stationwagon)</p>
<p>Brazilian Currency (REAL) worths 1,65 US$<br />
Well, how your market works?</p>
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		<title>By: lowprofile</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177423</link>
		<dc:creator>lowprofile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hegonc, there are also many european hatchback based sedan cars in the mercosur region too right? care to share a bit from your side of the world? like what are the euro hatch based sedans there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hegonc, there are also many european hatchback based sedan cars in the mercosur region too right? care to share a bit from your side of the world? like what are the euro hatch based sedans there?</p>
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		<title>By: hegonc</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177361</link>
		<dc:creator>hegonc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi everyone! i&#039;m from Brazil and I really liked this site.
I&#039;ve been reading the comments and this Renault is based on Clio II (Thalia, in Brazil is Clio Sedan) and in my opinion the pictures are streched too much. Here im Brazil, The Clios never sold a lot, but who has one, do not change for any other low-cost car...

In Brazil we don&#039;t have the Dacia brand, so our flag is Renault....tha&#039;s wy Renault is reaching the 3rd world countries...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi everyone! i&#8217;m from Brazil and I really liked this site.<br />
I&#8217;ve been reading the comments and this Renault is based on Clio II (Thalia, in Brazil is Clio Sedan) and in my opinion the pictures are streched too much. Here im Brazil, The Clios never sold a lot, but who has one, do not change for any other low-cost car&#8230;</p>
<p>In Brazil we don&#8217;t have the Dacia brand, so our flag is Renault&#8230;.tha&#8217;s wy Renault is reaching the 3rd world countries&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: trustgtr</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177340</link>
		<dc:creator>trustgtr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aiya, its a nissan/renault shared platform..renault used to be pretty crap in terms relaibilty..with nissan&#039;s input, they have learned a lot from the japs..best takeover ever for the french car..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aiya, its a nissan/renault shared platform..renault used to be pretty crap in terms relaibilty..with nissan&#8217;s input, they have learned a lot from the japs..best takeover ever for the french car..</p>
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		<title>By: auctioncenter2u</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177304</link>
		<dc:creator>auctioncenter2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worst than LOGAN...Yew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worst than LOGAN&#8230;Yew</p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177292</link>
		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rear C class/Hyundai Coupe@Tuberon
Front: Latio

Meter from Proton Saga?
Problem is when it comes to Bolehland, people will not buy it, because you have saga, savvy, viva, myvi for baseline market. People will think twice to buy this car</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rear C class/Hyundai Coupe@Tuberon<br />
Front: Latio</p>
<p>Meter from Proton Saga?<br />
Problem is when it comes to Bolehland, people will not buy it, because you have saga, savvy, viva, myvi for baseline market. People will think twice to buy this car</p>
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		<title>By: ALPINA BMW</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177290</link>
		<dc:creator>ALPINA BMW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very nice car, looks like a nissan latio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very nice car, looks like a nissan latio</p>
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		<title>By: mitlanevo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177284</link>
		<dc:creator>mitlanevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the design is not bad as this is a &#039;low-cost&#039; car....

front and side looks pretty basic and normal, nothing too appealing, but somehow the rear is quite nice....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the design is not bad as this is a &#8216;low-cost&#8217; car&#8230;.</p>
<p>front and side looks pretty basic and normal, nothing too appealing, but somehow the rear is quite nice&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: MyviKiller</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177283</link>
		<dc:creator>MyviKiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here comes the new Eintein theory:

Symbol = C-class + SX4 + Latio

Tada!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here comes the new Eintein theory:</p>
<p>Symbol = C-class + SX4 + Latio</p>
<p>Tada!</p>
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		<title>By: kennytan70</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177262</link>
		<dc:creator>kennytan70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 05:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look better than nay of the Renault&#039;s offering in Malaysia. Well, Tan Chong, any plans to sell it here? You should have more model range instead of just offering Kangoo and its variant here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look better than nay of the Renault&#8217;s offering in Malaysia. Well, Tan Chong, any plans to sell it here? You should have more model range instead of just offering Kangoo and its variant here.</p>
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		<title>By: Altezzar</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177259</link>
		<dc:creator>Altezzar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 05:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awkful......this car will never make it to our shores. why???...
In Malaysia your either have Badge value or looks. If dont have either then
dont bother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awkful&#8230;&#8230;this car will never make it to our shores. why???&#8230;<br />
In Malaysia your either have Badge value or looks. If dont have either then<br />
dont bother.</p>
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		<title>By: szw</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177256</link>
		<dc:creator>szw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks like a sx4 front and a new c-class butt...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like a sx4 front and a new c-class butt&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: normaluser</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177246</link>
		<dc:creator>normaluser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So suddenly European carmakers come out with &quot;cheap&quot; B-segment sedans derived from the hatchbacks. Looks like they are seriously competing with the Japs to enter the emerging developing countries small sedan market. The far east got the new City, Mazda2 sedan (china), Vios, Versa/Latio,.. which is better looking (Vios excluded.. huhu) than the Logan.

This car looks totally out of place, with those huge side windows and weird C-pillar. No interior pics. It looks long and spacious, and probably it is as big as the  C-segment competitor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So suddenly European carmakers come out with &#8220;cheap&#8221; B-segment sedans derived from the hatchbacks. Looks like they are seriously competing with the Japs to enter the emerging developing countries small sedan market. The far east got the new City, Mazda2 sedan (china), Vios, Versa/Latio,.. which is better looking (Vios excluded.. huhu) than the Logan.</p>
<p>This car looks totally out of place, with those huge side windows and weird C-pillar. No interior pics. It looks long and spacious, and probably it is as big as the  C-segment competitor.</p>
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		<title>By: Alifz</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177228</link>
		<dc:creator>Alifz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look like now renault had learn from proton....hehe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look like now renault had learn from proton&#8230;.hehe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Realeyes</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177227</link>
		<dc:creator>Realeyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yuck! Please don&#039;t come to Malaysia..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yuck! Please don&#8217;t come to Malaysia..</p>
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		<title>By: lowprofile</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177221</link>
		<dc:creator>lowprofile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with BanyakMasukWorkshop. The shape is kinda strange due to the odd proportions. Along the same vein, the VW Gol also suffers from this which I think is due to the transition from a hatchback to sedan shape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with BanyakMasukWorkshop. The shape is kinda strange due to the odd proportions. Along the same vein, the VW Gol also suffers from this which I think is due to the transition from a hatchback to sedan shape.</p>
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		<title>By: farghmee</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177218</link>
		<dc:creator>farghmee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exterior: macam pernah nampak je..;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exterior: macam pernah nampak je..;)</p>
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		<title>By: BanyakMasukWorkshop</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177211</link>
		<dc:creator>BanyakMasukWorkshop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it looks really strange. something wrong with the proportions...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it looks really strange. something wrong with the proportions&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: raptorclans</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177205</link>
		<dc:creator>raptorclans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They actually made a nice boot for the car, and a decent front... but why oh why with that C-pillar? :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They actually made a nice boot for the car, and a decent front&#8230; but why oh why with that C-pillar? <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: abtm</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177197</link>
		<dc:creator>abtm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the tacho doesn&#039;t seem to redline until 7000rpm or beyond</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the tacho doesn&#8217;t seem to redline until 7000rpm or beyond</p>
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		<title>By: BrakeFader</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177195</link>
		<dc:creator>BrakeFader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>azrai, I agree with you. It really does look like  Suzuki SX4 with its A &amp; C pillars swapped!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>azrai, I agree with you. It really does look like  Suzuki SX4 with its A &amp; C pillars swapped!</p>
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		<title>By: azrai</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177192</link>
		<dc:creator>azrai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look like the Suzuki SX4 &#039;A&#039; pillar has been move to be the &#039;C&#039; pillar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look like the Suzuki SX4 &#8216;A&#8217; pillar has been move to be the &#8216;C&#8217; pillar.</p>
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		<title>By: alvin_chan88</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177174</link>
		<dc:creator>alvin_chan88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 16:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! If this Renault is an entry level / low cost car from them. Then this is way better than our SAGA. Looks better than our Waja too. Shame.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! If this Renault is an entry level / low cost car from them. Then this is way better than our SAGA. Looks better than our Waja too. Shame&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Lee</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177170</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think it looks like a nissan latio too, maybe the similarity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think it looks like a nissan latio too, maybe the similarity</p>
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		<title>By: csv</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/24/new-renault-symbol-sedan-based-on-renault-clio/#comment-177166</link>
		<dc:creator>csv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>front kinda resembles the sx4 sedan.

maybe nissan take it and rebadge it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>front kinda resembles the sx4 sedan.</p>
<p>maybe nissan take it and rebadge it?</p>
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