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	<title>Comments on: Citroen Grand C4 Picasso 7-seater MPV</title>
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		<title>By: ALPINA BMW</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/citroen-grand-c4-picasso-7-seater-mpv/#comment-178123</link>
		<dc:creator>ALPINA BMW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 09:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does this have the hydrapneumatic suspension?</description>
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		<title>By: jackson91</title>
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		<dc:creator>jackson91</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very interested. but haven&#039;t looked at the car in real life yet. showroom too out of the way, spare part and service place not closeby. price a bit too high. dont care about the name and continental stigma, just care about the features.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very interested. but haven&#8217;t looked at the car in real life yet. showroom too out of the way, spare part and service place not closeby. price a bit too high. dont care about the name and continental stigma, just care about the features.</p>
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		<title>By: mitlanevo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mitlanevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, the exterior is quite amazing, and interior looks great too.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, the exterior is quite amazing, and interior looks great too&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks quite good for a familiy car, can tempt the Wish owners out there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks quite good for a familiy car, can tempt the Wish owners out there</p>
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		<title>By: WXX8XX</title>
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		<dc:creator>WXX8XX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>168k is ok I think for continental new car. But don&#039;t know much what&#039;s the reputation of French cars. Is it reliable? The engine? The service centers?. I know the suspension is great.. 168k for suspension only is not a good deal i think.. but much better than a lot of tissue box with engine in our road today(innova,avanza,juara(r.i.p)..etc)..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>168k is ok I think for continental new car. But don&#8217;t know much what&#8217;s the reputation of French cars. Is it reliable? The engine? The service centers?. I know the suspension is great.. 168k for suspension only is not a good deal i think.. but much better than a lot of tissue box with engine in our road today(innova,avanza,juara(r.i.p)..etc)..</p>
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		<title>By: isfufushah</title>
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		<dc:creator>isfufushah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah,

`Great&#039;  family car, `great&#039; leg room, `great&#039; price (reasonable and good looking car). But, i m afraid its not so `great&#039; engine &amp; maintenance. Because my cousion owned a 5-seater C4. It always break-down and the most recent 1 is when we on our way to Terengganu last March.

:-P.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah,</p>
<p>`Great&#8217;  family car, `great&#8217; leg room, `great&#8217; price (reasonable and good looking car). But, i m afraid its not so `great&#8217; engine &amp; maintenance. Because my cousion owned a 5-seater C4. It always break-down and the most recent 1 is when we on our way to Terengganu last March.</p>
<p> <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: DRC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DRC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toyota is VERY GREEDY.  They ask for RM3000 for combination leather seats in INNOVA (basically an empty-box MPV for that price  -- DON&#039;T  EVER  BUY  like a stupid me).  It was my first Non-national car; short-sighted that time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toyota is VERY GREEDY.  They ask for RM3000 for combination leather seats in INNOVA (basically an empty-box MPV for that price  &#8212; DON&#8217;T  EVER  BUY  like a stupid me).  It was my first Non-national car; short-sighted that time.</p>
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		<title>By: ALPINA BMW</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/citroen-grand-c4-picasso-7-seater-mpv/#comment-177458</link>
		<dc:creator>ALPINA BMW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hate the car, i love the girl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hate the car, i love the girl</p>
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		<title>By: s60t</title>
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		<dc:creator>s60t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks nice.price range very close to C8 but I think this one looks better.How is the legroom in the 3rd row,enough for an adult?I am surprised that someone remarked that maintenance for european cars is the same of japs.not from my experience anyway(I have owned 2 volvos, 1 peugeot,1 toyota,2 hondas,1 mazda,3 protons,1  nissan).cheapest car to maintain was nissan 130Y 1984 model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks nice.price range very close to C8 but I think this one looks better.How is the legroom in the 3rd row,enough for an adult?I am surprised that someone remarked that maintenance for european cars is the same of japs.not from my experience anyway(I have owned 2 volvos, 1 peugeot,1 toyota,2 hondas,1 mazda,3 protons,1  nissan).cheapest car to maintain was nissan 130Y 1984 model.</p>
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		<title>By: fastcx</title>
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		<dc:creator>fastcx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love the steering! looks so cool! remind me of space ship ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love the steering! looks so cool! remind me of space ship <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: lembagatanah</title>
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		<dc:creator>lembagatanah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wah very nice mpv. looks and spec better than japanese brand. only one disadv, once buy need to use it until die, very low value after used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wah very nice mpv. looks and spec better than japanese brand. only one disadv, once buy need to use it until die, very low value after used.</p>
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		<title>By: mokkf82</title>
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		<dc:creator>mokkf82</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya! why the blue one looks different on it&#039;s rear light?
But this is one nice looking car. 
but for the roof top design, i rather want it to be close. The whether condition in M&#039;sia would not allow it to be open all day long. Which means no use even though there&#039;s a double layered UV coating on it. It&#039;s still hot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya! why the blue one looks different on it&#8217;s rear light?<br />
But this is one nice looking car.<br />
but for the roof top design, i rather want it to be close. The whether condition in M&#8217;sia would not allow it to be open all day long. Which means no use even though there&#8217;s a double layered UV coating on it. It&#8217;s still hot!</p>
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		<title>By: ka_one2000</title>
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		<dc:creator>ka_one2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kingv6 said,
August 26, 2008 @ 7:41 am 

narrowband said,
August 26, 2008 @ 8:47 am


Thats the 5 seater version; C4 picasso.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kingv6 said,<br />
August 26, 2008 @ 7:41 am </p>
<p>narrowband said,<br />
August 26, 2008 @ 8:47 am</p>
<p>Thats the 5 seater version; C4 picasso.</p>
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		<title>By: narrowband</title>
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		<dc:creator>narrowband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The third photo after the jump is also Picasso? Looks a little different from the rest. Anyway, C4 reminds me of a certain country adjacent to China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The third photo after the jump is also Picasso? Looks a little different from the rest. Anyway, C4 reminds me of a certain country adjacent to China.</p>
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		<title>By: farghmee</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/citroen-grand-c4-picasso-7-seater-mpv/#comment-177388</link>
		<dc:creator>farghmee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the car&gt;&gt;
exterior: simple &amp; stylish.
i like the tail light, vast viewpoints
interior: simple &amp; practical.
non-fuss-airplane-alike dashboard

the aweks&gt;&gt; cun :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the car&gt;&gt;<br />
exterior: simple &amp; stylish.<br />
i like the tail light, vast viewpoints<br />
interior: simple &amp; practical.<br />
non-fuss-airplane-alike dashboard</p>
<p>the aweks&gt;&gt; cun <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BanyakMasukWorkshop</title>
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		<dc:creator>BanyakMasukWorkshop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>europeans always built the safest MPV&#039;s, and their spec levels are very high, but as usual, japanese makes sell the best, end of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>europeans always built the safest MPV&#8217;s, and their spec levels are very high, but as usual, japanese makes sell the best, end of story.</p>
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		<title>By: jaygan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaygan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice.  I like it.

Why no diesel version, eh ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice.  I like it.</p>
<p>Why no diesel version, eh ?</p>
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		<title>By: kingv6</title>
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		<dc:creator>kingv6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, the 4th pictures from top (blue colored) is that another variant of Picasso?
It looked rather sleek &amp; sporty than the rest of the pic. The rear lamp also in different orientation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, the 4th pictures from top (blue colored) is that another variant of Picasso?<br />
It looked rather sleek &amp; sporty than the rest of the pic. The rear lamp also in different orientation.</p>
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		<title>By: Capt Shopalot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capt Shopalot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s pretty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty</p>
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		<title>By: OpenMind</title>
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		<dc:creator>OpenMind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This car looks better than wish (Especially internally) and provides much more features than some of the MPV on the street like Grandis, Wish, Stream. 

But the price is really steep comparing the brand name in Malaysia. All these European car especially Renault, Citroen, Peugeot, Audi, Alfa, Volve, etc had been associated immediately with low second hand value and expensive maintenance cost. If you ever drive one, you will realize that it is not expensive on the servicing part, at least not that much compare a small japanese sedan. 

Even tough this picasso (and some other continental cars) offers much better safety features, more natural or enjoyable driving experience, more fancy features than most if not all of the japanese competitors (within the same range of midi MPV), this migth not be enough to lure too many potential car buyers.

I personally thinks the following might help the sales of this model: 

1. bring in the 6-speed gearbox (this is really more recognized for this futuristic car
2. bring in the one with hydrolic suspension (this is still optional)
3. Extend warranty to 5 years (2 years warrantly is the lowest that you can get in today market) as this would provide more confidence
4. Provide free service (up to 3-5 times), or could also do it up to 2 years (Honda city also get free service)
5. Lower the price (compare this to the previous price of old picasso, I think it&#039;s around RM12xk). This model is not that expensive in Europe compare to the old one, but the price magnified out of proportion in Malaysia. I guess, the margin would be very good for this car. If you are operating 3S, without more and more citroen on the road, you will not be able to leverage your service center that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This car looks better than wish (Especially internally) and provides much more features than some of the MPV on the street like Grandis, Wish, Stream. </p>
<p>But the price is really steep comparing the brand name in Malaysia. All these European car especially Renault, Citroen, Peugeot, Audi, Alfa, Volve, etc had been associated immediately with low second hand value and expensive maintenance cost. If you ever drive one, you will realize that it is not expensive on the servicing part, at least not that much compare a small japanese sedan. </p>
<p>Even tough this picasso (and some other continental cars) offers much better safety features, more natural or enjoyable driving experience, more fancy features than most if not all of the japanese competitors (within the same range of midi MPV), this migth not be enough to lure too many potential car buyers.</p>
<p>I personally thinks the following might help the sales of this model: </p>
<p>1. bring in the 6-speed gearbox (this is really more recognized for this futuristic car<br />
2. bring in the one with hydrolic suspension (this is still optional)<br />
3. Extend warranty to 5 years (2 years warrantly is the lowest that you can get in today market) as this would provide more confidence<br />
4. Provide free service (up to 3-5 times), or could also do it up to 2 years (Honda city also get free service)<br />
5. Lower the price (compare this to the previous price of old picasso, I think it&#8217;s around RM12xk). This model is not that expensive in Europe compare to the old one, but the price magnified out of proportion in Malaysia. I guess, the margin would be very good for this car. If you are operating 3S, without more and more citroen on the road, you will not be able to leverage your service center that much.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RM168k is quite reasonable. but second hand value would be the major concerns for most uncles... haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RM168k is quite reasonable. but second hand value would be the major concerns for most uncles&#8230; haha</p>
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		<title>By: SureBoleh1..</title>
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		<dc:creator>SureBoleh1..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>late nite update? sure must drink tongkat ali 1. hehe. but it&#039;s exterior design wasn&#039;t suit my taste. &quot;massive glass sunroof&quot; good for star viewing instead of sun. Rm168k ok lah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>late nite update? sure must drink tongkat ali 1. hehe. but it&#8217;s exterior design wasn&#8217;t suit my taste. &#8220;massive glass sunroof&#8221; good for star viewing instead of sun. Rm168k ok lah.</p>
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		<title>By: n8cky</title>
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		<dc:creator>n8cky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol...Paul u really slp late..
Picasso at 168?...hmm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol&#8230;Paul u really slp late..<br />
Picasso at 168?&#8230;hmm</p>
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