Comments on: Free rear center belts for 2003-2005 Honda City http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:59:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ebrahim http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-326689 ebrahim Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:51:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-326689 hello i want email of center office Honda company in japan for contact . can you send for me ? thank you hello i want email of center office Honda company in japan for contact . can you send for me ?
thank you

]]> By: henrywoon http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-178103 henrywoon Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:10:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-178103 Is it going to be 2 point or 3 point safety belt? If Honda thinks back of this botched attempt, they should be smart to install a 3 point belt. Is it going to be 2 point or 3 point safety belt? If Honda thinks back of this botched attempt, they should be smart to install a 3 point belt.

]]> By: PTAllTheBest http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177521 PTAllTheBest Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:09:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177521 here mainly ppl play with proton lotus handling and honda VTEC engine toyota are not qualified to discuss :P here mainly ppl play with proton lotus handling and honda VTEC engine

toyota are not qualified to discuss :P

]]> By: bmpower http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177470 bmpower Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:29:13 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177470 now where is Toyota? now where is Toyota?

]]> By: ALPINA BMW http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177456 ALPINA BMW Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:58:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177456 who sits in the middle? who sits in the middle?

]]> By: corolla_KE70 http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177455 corolla_KE70 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:56:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177455 good guys..lets make this into a very clever and proper discussion. people who just came to do some sort of blindless bashing are not welcome here, right? good guys..lets make this into a very clever and proper discussion. people who just came to do some sort of blindless bashing are not welcome here, right?

]]> By: car_craze http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177453 car_craze Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:25:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177453 Guys - i think you are missing the point here. If the car is designed as 5 seaters, then it must have 5 seat belts, not 4. Unless some people at Honda cannot count, then it become intentional, due to some cost savings, as it was not required by law then. But if you ask if it was 'ethical' for a big car company like Honda (or any car company for that matter) then it becomes another topic for discussion. In Europe or US they would not dare to ignore such issues becasue they risk being sued if there are injuries in accidents and seatbelts were not sufficiently provided. In Malaysia we are less concerned by such things and some car manufacturers cut coners when it comes to occupant and even pedestrian safety. On the flip side, people with large families and who cannot afford an MPV will have great difficulties when it comes to holidays and Balek Kampung time. Guys – i think you are missing the point here. If the car is designed as 5 seaters, then it must have 5 seat belts, not 4. Unless some people at Honda cannot count, then it become intentional, due to some cost savings, as it was not required by law then.
But if you ask if it was ‘ethical’ for a big car company like Honda (or any car company for that matter) then it becomes another topic for discussion. In Europe or US they would not dare to ignore such issues becasue they risk being sued if there are injuries in accidents and seatbelts were not sufficiently provided. In Malaysia we are less concerned by such things and some car manufacturers cut coners when it comes to occupant and even pedestrian safety.
On the flip side, people with large families and who cannot afford an MPV will have great difficulties when it comes to holidays and Balek Kampung time.

]]> By: n8cky http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177442 n8cky Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:00:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177442 lol, I think Paul better rectify it on the title. Or they'll bash Honda like nothing. lol, I think Paul better rectify it on the title. Or they’ll bash Honda like nothing.

]]> By: Paul Tan http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177440 Paul Tan Tue, 26 Aug 2008 05:41:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177440 After checking with Honda, it is confirmed that all affected Honda City do have rear seatbelts, its just missing the belt for the middle passenger. After checking with Honda, it is confirmed that all affected Honda City do have rear seatbelts, its just missing the belt for the middle passenger.

]]> By: n8cky http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177436 n8cky Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:49:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177436 at least honda did not keep this to themselves.. lol, my 12yo Satria pun ada rear seat belt.. at least honda did not keep this to themselves..

lol, my 12yo Satria pun ada rear seat belt..

]]> By: BanyakMasukWorkshop http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177434 BanyakMasukWorkshop Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:43:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177434 no problem ignas.. just wanted to understand what you meant. my bimmer also the same as your proton la..haha.. hence my nick.. (B)anyak (M)asuk (W)orkshop.. actually.. my mums city also had problems.. with the brakes..the discs keep on warping(problem still persisting), and the CVT box died.. my bro-in-laws new vios bumper fell off after hitting a pothole... my conclusion.. everybody has problems.. same goes with lotus, (L)ots (O)f (T)rouble, (U)sually (S)erious. but i was lucky with my wira last time.. no problems at all except for power windows.. as for protons, they also have the issue of some models with no centre belt, iswara and gen2.. but they've already announced they will fix it all for free a few months back.. i believe they were the 1st to announce it. no problem ignas.. just wanted to understand what you meant.

my bimmer also the same as your proton la..haha.. hence my nick.. (B)anyak (M)asuk (W)orkshop..

actually.. my mums city also had problems.. with the brakes..the discs keep on warping(problem still persisting), and the CVT box died.. my bro-in-laws new vios bumper fell off after hitting a pothole… my conclusion.. everybody has problems.. same goes with lotus, (L)ots (O)f (T)rouble, (U)sually (S)erious. but i was lucky with my wira last time.. no problems at all except for power windows..

as for protons, they also have the issue of some models with no centre belt, iswara and gen2.. but they’ve already announced they will fix it all for free a few months back.. i believe they were the 1st to announce it.

]]> By: ignas http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177433 ignas Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:40:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177433 o btw, i also didnt mean tat proton does not recall their cars. let me rephrase again my first comment why ppl bash proton not less likely to foreign company....nah lazy to go thru that again.... o btw, i also didnt mean tat proton does not recall their cars. let me rephrase again my first comment why ppl bash proton not less likely to foreign company….nah lazy to go thru that again….

]]> By: ganz http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177432 ganz Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:38:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177432 story of drame is actually exaggerate to much.. every car manufacture play drame also laa.. the worst still come to Proton kekekek but.. don't tell me if u drive honda they entertain every of ur comments.. story of drame is actually exaggerate to much.. every car manufacture play drame also laa.. the worst still come to Proton kekekek

but.. don’t tell me if u drive honda they entertain every of ur comments..

]]> By: weejin http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177431 weejin Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:30:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177431 I just watched RTM2 mandarin news, this news is reported too. According to the CEO of Honda Malaysia (Japanese Guy speaking not so good English), the free rear seat belt will only be the center rear seat belt. As I pointed out earlier, in my wife's City, there were already 2 3-point rear seat belt. The campaign will start in October 08. I just watched RTM2 mandarin news, this news is reported too. According to the CEO of Honda Malaysia (Japanese Guy speaking not so good English), the free rear seat belt will only be the center rear seat belt. As I pointed out earlier, in my wife’s City, there were already 2 3-point rear seat belt.

The campaign will start in October 08.

]]> By: ignas http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177429 ignas Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:20:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177429 BanyakMasukWorkshop, nope, i didnt mean it that way. i apologise for being off topic if that is what you want from me. what i meant was, when they realized its a mistake they made, they admit it, fix it, even better for free. unlike proton, no matter how many gazillion times u bring it to their service center when 'small' problem arise.... lots of 'drama'..... ok perhaps im just one of the many unlucky ones. BanyakMasukWorkshop, nope, i didnt mean it that way. i apologise for being off topic if that is what you want from me. what i meant was, when they realized its a mistake they made, they admit it, fix it, even better for free. unlike proton, no matter how many gazillion times u bring it to their service center when ‘small’ problem arise…. lots of ‘drama’….. ok perhaps im just one of the many unlucky ones.

]]> By: chery http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177426 chery Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:14:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177426 they juz don't have rear CENTER seat belt, i remember my aunt RM27k Saga LMST also dun have! they juz don’t have rear CENTER seat belt, i remember my aunt RM27k Saga LMST also dun have!

]]> By: paraquat http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177420 paraquat Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:40:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177420 Just want to point out that Honda City does come with 2 3-point rear seat belts. What is missing is the centre 2-point rear seatbelt. Just want to point out that Honda City does come with 2 3-point rear seat belts. What is missing is the centre 2-point rear seatbelt.

]]> By: MyviKiller http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177418 MyviKiller Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:26:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177418 If Proton sure kena teruk-teruk. If Proton sure kena teruk-teruk.

]]> By: corolla_KE70 http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177417 corolla_KE70 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:15:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177417 if other company didnot put the rear seatbelt, they will say "its ok.. cost cutting.. they install it for free then ma..." if proton do the same, these kind of people will say "what the f**k are they thinking? useless car manufacturer!!!" good lord please save us.... if other company didnot put the rear seatbelt, they will say “its ok.. cost cutting.. they install it for free then ma…”

if proton do the same, these kind of people will say “what the f**k are they thinking? useless car manufacturer!!!”

good lord please save us….

]]> By: weejin http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177415 weejin Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:02:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177415 My wife's honda city June 2005 (pre-facelift) have 2 3-point rear seat belts. It doesn't have the center rear seat belt, however. May I know whether this campaign applies to my wife's City? i.e. fixing the third rear seat belt? Then it will be very good! My wife’s honda city June 2005 (pre-facelift) have 2 3-point rear seat belts. It doesn’t have the center rear seat belt, however.

May I know whether this campaign applies to my wife’s City? i.e. fixing the third rear seat belt? Then it will be very good!

]]> By: BanyakMasukWorkshop http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177414 BanyakMasukWorkshop Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:00:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177414 ignas "but at least honda, a foreign company admits it and put in efforts to fix it for free. its really highly admirable." you statement seems to say that proton did not install rear seatbelts for their cars..? is that true? ignas “but at least honda, a foreign company admits it and put in efforts to fix it for free. its really highly admirable.”

you statement seems to say that proton did not install rear seatbelts for their cars..? is that true?

]]> By: maibatsu_thunder http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177413 maibatsu_thunder Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:53:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177413 Procurement works with QCD as a religion. Hence, if the law at the time says only driver and front passenger require seatbelts, then so be it. ADR/NZ and European requirements say all 5 passengers need ELR belts. Rear centre cannot cannot be the 2-point lap belt. Hence cars like the first batch of Honda Jazz VTEC (huge rear spoiler version) and 206 have ELR for all 5 occupants. Procurement works with QCD as a religion. Hence, if the law at the time says only driver and front passenger require seatbelts, then so be it. ADR/NZ and European requirements say all 5 passengers need ELR belts. Rear centre cannot cannot be the 2-point lap belt. Hence cars like the first batch of Honda Jazz VTEC (huge rear spoiler version) and 206 have ELR for all 5 occupants.

]]> By: ikttan http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177411 ikttan Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:20:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177411 I think the report isn't actually accurate. What I believe is that they are talking about the middle 5th seat-belt which the City does not have. The City has 4 seat-belts in total but did away with the middle one. Not sure about others, but mine had 4 and mine is a 2004 model. I think the report isn’t actually accurate. What I believe is that they are talking about the middle 5th seat-belt which the City does not have. The City has 4 seat-belts in total but did away with the middle one. Not sure about others, but mine had 4 and mine is a 2004 model.

]]> By: ignas http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177405 ignas Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:00:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177405 simple ma..proton got backing from the G and everything is localized, what else could go wrong? thats why ppl have high expectations from it. if proton does not deliver, of course consumers felt robbed and will bash it till the max. cos they are 'cornered' to buy it. but at least honda, a foreign company admits it and put in efforts to fix it for free. its really highly admirable. simple ma..proton got backing from the G and everything is localized, what else could go wrong? thats why ppl have high expectations from it. if proton does not deliver, of course consumers felt robbed and will bash it till the max. cos they are ‘cornered’ to buy it.

but at least honda, a foreign company admits it and put in efforts to fix it for free. its really highly admirable.

]]> By: ganz http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177401 ganz Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:29:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177401 hahahahah.. it true.. if proton don't install rear seat belt.. everybody will bash kaw-kaw.. kekekke what about kancil 660? do they install rear seat belt? :D hahahahah.. it true.. if proton don’t install rear seat belt.. everybody will bash kaw-kaw.. kekekke

what about kancil 660? do they install rear seat belt? :D

]]> By: altimi http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177399 altimi Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:27:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177399 To Honda, saving 300 ringgit is more important than putiing rear seatbelt..... To Honda, saving 300 ringgit is more important than putiing rear seatbelt…..

]]> By: carsut http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177397 carsut Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:16:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177397 huhu..what a shame (really shame), 2005 honda city sill dont have a rear seat belts.. huhu..what a shame (really shame), 2005 honda city sill dont have a rear seat belts..

]]> By: droll http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177392 droll Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:58:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177392 give them a break. it may be a lame excuse but they could have chosen to keep quiet about things and leave the owners alone. something is better than nothing. give them a break. it may be a lame excuse but they could have chosen to keep quiet about things and leave the owners alone.

something is better than nothing.

]]> By: altimi http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177386 altimi Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:37:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177386 If Proton sure people whack kow-kow...... If Proton sure people whack kow-kow……

]]> By: BanyakMasukWorkshop http://paultan.org/2008/08/26/free-rear-seat-belts-for-2003-2005-honda-city/#comment-177384 BanyakMasukWorkshop Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:34:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=7619#comment-177384 this is called, skirting the regulations.. at least they're fixing the belts for free for all cars. initially, perodua were charging their customers for it. this is called, skirting the regulations.. at least they’re fixing the belts for free for all cars. initially, perodua were charging their customers for it.

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