NCAP safety also at least 4stars or above….
ohh i’m daydreaming

knight_templar said,
September 3, 2008 @ 12:17 pm
(Hah the serf speaks.
Yah, I love this country and will not allow deranged Calibans like you to ruin it. But being a typical underachieving citizen, u probably dont even understand wat i have said. So scram, there are keyboards for the mentally retarded, but this blog really could do with one less like you).

This are comment by retard brain people that don’t have any vision. If u are the malaysian, you should not said kind of stupid things. You know how many malaysian have more than 4 kids ?. How many Malaysian with salary RM1200>RM2000 ?. How many malaysian want low budget transport ?. How many………….. you find by your self.

This are some solution that car maker doing right now. But for sure, that knight_templar wanebe are lazy to think coz of brain damage. I hope you will get well soon before Proton MPV available to Malaysian.

Malaysia Boleh…. We do our part for country….. Love Malaysia…. Be Malaysia… Protect Malaysia….. don’t let knight_templar wanebe people invade our land….. Proud Malaysian….

and the ecu revised to reduce flat spot,
revised cam,
power band shifts to earlier range,

-i only can give words-

maybe this MPV bound CPS should be tuned for more torque, if the anticipated weight is to be overcome. that’s left to the engineers to be taken care of.

Campro CPS 1.6 = 125hp.
Torque is another story, with good gear ratio, it will be okay then.
power to weight ration , we will see later.

BTW, avanza not an MPV, its a van. A van those wannabe MPV. :p

knight templar… if u dont give a damn… why on earth u spend ur time here making that oh so intelligent comment? just to show how brilliant u are?

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Hah the serf speaks.
Yah, I love this country and will not allow deranged Calibans like you to ruin it. But being a typical underachieving citizen, u probably dont even understand wat i have said. So scram, there are keyboards for the mentally retarded, but this blog really could do with one less like you.

the other thing that futher cut down the consumption is continously pushing the torque band at its best with its cvvt at lower to mid range. adjustment at every fraction of seconds,

while vim, serve the a broad range of averaging 0rpm to 3400rpm,

well i cant say vim is batter than cvvt, and a clear advantage is power to weight of nissan,- that will give nissan batter fuel economy,

i also have my doubt with siemen ecu works on campro.
due to emission, much too sacrifice with engine flat spot for emission.
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(lotus evora powered by toyota v6)

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i do hope campro undergone further development, until it qualifies to power one of the lotus. the my salute.

1.6 CAMPRO CPS 125BHP TORQUE 150NM Kerb Weight 1450(not official)
1.6 LIVINA 105PS TORQUE 150NM Kerb Weight 1245
1.8 LIVINA 126PS TORQUE 174NM Kerb Weight 1280

PS: 276BHP = 280PS(LOTUS EVORA)

for heavier machine, the priority is pulling power, the low end TORQUE, this is where in reality day to day, and the most usable power band utilised, and where the car can be geared economically at overdrive to save fuel,

im not saying HP is not important, but in the real world, daily basis we ar at the slower speed, hopping from light to light, stop and go, and ocassionally on the freeway, therefore we need a very flexible engine, the TORQUE waved to suit the driving condition by the intelligence of the engine, ,,,,,,,,,that is economical, batter emission, save the planet, batter society, saving govt money if its a govt fleet,

that time proton have the potential beating other cars from other makers,

THINK THINK of mileage per liter or how many liter per 100 km of journey Proton MPV need. The range accepted by Proton potentials buyers must fall between Livina 1.6M (7.4l every 100km) or at least aVANza’s fuel consumption (even though this cheapo mpv use more fuel than Livina but it’s cheaper and of course a TOYOTA). If Proton think the different in FC usage will justify the price tag (as most people expecting RM70k the highest for entry level and ok with little higher FC) then , they must think again. People with one or two kids maybe not consider it.

Market are very demanding now for Proton (FC-wise) and for me most people will be ok if Proton mpv only consume 8l/100km combine cycle. B-segment Livina 1.8 consume average 6.5l 4AT/6.2l 6MT for every 100km. Bigger but relatively more efficient new Stream with SOHC merely slightly higher at 6.8l/100km or 6.9l/100km for older Wish (expecting new replacement soon and never expect radical change just another new Altis’ kind of newness (Toyota only company now can afford to do every auto companies can’t, namely just having facelift but call them totally new model change. If you still little confuse just compare newest Estima, Alphard, Corolla-Altis, Crown series, Voxy mpv etc with their predecessors- all sports almost same dimensions BUT very much well accepted by their target market).

Market also not ‘fair’ to Proton’s. For instance Savvy is more efficient at 18km/liter as opposed to Myvi’s 13.3km/liter (figure from Myvi sibling, Sirion in Taiwan magazine) BUT people prefer the latter than the former due to certain factors, namely size, brand name (Perodua regarded as another Toyota’s kin). Thus, in this environment Proton has uphill task to satisfy wide array of potential buyers. I’m really pray that Proton can please many segment as Wish and Stream did.

If l’m not mistaken, seemingly Proton MPV targeting people with more kids. I love to see buyer with one kid buying Proton and use word-of-mouth to be FOC Proton messenger to spread buzz word on Proton MPV. As a Livina user l’m expecting Proton MPV has better features in every departments not merely design but irresistible product due to its credence (and FC is something you’ll never afford to rule out).

FYI, even Nissan has uphill task before they can convinced Indonesians about their Grand Livina vs Avanza vs Innova (Livina was positioned to take on these two half-cooked MPV but a Toyota moniker really works dude). Let alone our Proton MPV unless they have advantages than these competitions.

AS Kucau mentioned, Proton not merely against Avanza but Perodua’s mpv next September 2009. So, Proton really need a good power train to compete with these mpv. I guess 4-speed auto is thing of the past for Proton though Nissan and Toyota still using it for their 2.4 RAV4 SUV. Honda already assumed 4-speed is has been technology.

still have not see the interior and price yet. but when Gen 2 and Waja CPS are selling around 60k, the proton MPV will most likely unable to make the price below 70k since it is for 7 seaters. If it price above 70k, why dun people opts for Avanza or just put 10 or 20k to buy Livana cos both are japanese car will have better resell value than proton.

IF only proton can make something like this. I just wonder what’s the mkt like for a Proton MPV when Proton’s history is with sedan/saloon and premium sedan and saloon.

I wish Proton all the best with this venture.

I believe you purposely make the front end to be different from the clay model and you have another image which are made very similar to it. Can you e-mail that one to me pleeeease….?