September 25, 2008 @ 10:41 pm

@ALPINA BMW: You couldn’t have said it better. Or maybe you could but it doesn’t matter. The fact is, motorists in Britain are simply spoilt for choice!

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thats the way it should be. being spoiled for choice.

3S said,

September 25, 2008 @ 2:52 pm
Proton have to sell cheap in oversea otherwise , there will be no demand ……..!!

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proton is selling cheap because there ‘IS” “NO” demand at all.

Scottie Pippen,
20 years and counting……talk about a long slow death.

Insurance is sold by other companies, not Proton, and thus irrelevant to the discussion.

Alrite, now snap out of it edi everyone. Seriously, while the car itself may be cheap, putting it on the road isn’t. Road tax, insurance, etcetc plus all together, I reckon Gen2 is still cheaper here OTR.

If G dont jacked up the import car price using whatever policies, how can the bank and cronies earn money. With higher import car price, local car can sell higher! thats a very simple logic. The buyers sufferred, non of their concern.

A civic in Canada cost less than US$20K. How much proton going to sell in Msia if that price is sell locally.

For those strong Proton supporter, they are either the cronies families, or…they are just too rich so dont mind to sacrifice the hard earn money for the G for buying lousy products…for 20 years and counting.

I just love this cuntry

Also what some people may not understand is that in the UK people don’t usually pay list price for less popular car models. So it’s not really accurate to compare Proton list prices there where substantial discounts are always negotiable, to list prices in Malaysia where prices are fixed. For instance most Protons are available in the UK with around £400-600 discount (RM 3000-4000) from list.

1.6 L Gen-2 GLS LE M/T – UK Price £7,495 OTR (RM 46,900)
1.6 L Gen-2 M-Line M/T – Malaysia Price (RM 53,488)

This isn’t even counting whatever additional discounts/extras you can negotiate from dealers in the UK desperate to shift stock. Unlike here, land of fixed price and compulsory optional accessories.

Not to mention

UK VERSION:
Standard Driver and Passenger Airbags
ABS + EBD
3-year full warranty + paintwork, 6 year drivetrain/bodywork warranty, 3 years free roadside assistance

MALAYSIA VERSION:
Driver’s Airbag only
no ABS/EBD
2-year full warranty + 3 years extended drivetrain warranty

So enjoy subsidizing their purchase price, service costs AS WELL AS their safety at the expense of yours and your family’s.

This is probably only the beginning, Proton will probably have to continue slashing their prices in the UK as the new emissions-based road tax scheme is coming into effect there. Road tax will be based on measured emissions, not engine displacement. Campro engines are relatively high polluters which will be another strike against them when it comes to potential buyers. Cue the discounts!

I second all of your factual statement. TQ.

And now it make me wonder.. why no one asking Perodua about that?
go! begging and asking how they treat you all like that?

http://europeanmotornews.com/2008/09/22/protons-autumn-clearance-sale/

quote:
“Offers end 31st October 2008 and are available on GEN-2 LE models WHILE STOCK LAST”

they just want to clear the stock especially prefacelifted 1.3 gen2…all car makers doing the same…even perodua did the same in UK last year

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/205598/perodua_myvi.html

“Perodua is extending its £1,000 cashback offer on the Myvi supermini until the end of March”

and i wait at that time to see any this so called politician/auto journalist to post it on their web…NO ONE post it…wonder why…bias???maybe

it’s clear that proton sell the car cheaper in malaysia compared to UK before

savvy – From £7,295 OTR – RM46,290.7
neo – From £9,995 OTR – RM63,423.7
persona ecologic – From £10,795 – RM68,500
gen2 – From £8,995 OTR – RM57,078

MYVI in UK £7,799 ….cheaper than neo,gen2,persona and just £500 more than savvy

see the difference…NO you didnt see???…ok fine

since proton now ‘rebranding’ and ‘reimaging’.
they need to do ‘investment and promotion’ about it.

when the car was cheapest in UK market, more people will buy.
more people buy = better (or bad) mouth to mouth story.
(just like myvi, it’s not a supergood car.. it’s just an OK car with the right price. That’s it.). Later on.. they might be got a good attention and can sell more and more.. and bring back money to our country.

many ‘typical malaysia’ are just a ‘typical worker’.. they do know nothing about business, branding, and investment. Just like many of us disagree with putrajaya, klia, sic in back 10 years ago.

Well, I almost wanted to buy that Proton Persona IAFM last time. After thinking through and through, and based on my sad experience driving the lousy Gen.2 last time I have come to a conclusion that Proton is still suck.

Their marketing strategy still suck; sell hell expensive over here and cheaper abroad. Not to mention, they do not provide CPS engine for its new flag model; Proton Persona. Instead they put that lousy IAFM – the so called ‘new technology’. Just extra modified air intake module to feed the old Campro engine. CPS for our knowledge is basically Proton’s version of Honda’s Vtec, Perodua’s Dvvt and etc. CPS technology is a joint research with Lotus (or rather its Lotus who actually designs it?) and rumoured that these CPS technology is also used by one of the famous super car maker in Germany (check Paul.Tan’s previous forum, I’ve read it somewhere).

On the other hand, for Perodua, I never really like their designs. Small and nimble cars. Can’t blame them, they are ‘K-Car’ provider anyways. Nevertheless, good marketing strategy allows them to stay competitive. They provide DVVT for all of their car models making their cars are even more worthy to buy. Not to mention, Perodua MyVi resale value is always 35% higher than Proton’s Gen.2.

I’m hoping both Proton and Perodua in the near future, could provide automatic transmission gear with at least 5 to 7 speeds just like those Honda are doing. Fuel are getting rather expensive and we need far more efficient cars. Safety is becoming a prime concern among road users (ever since we witness a lot of serious road tragedy, many people died horribly). Make Airbags, ABS and EBD as standards as roads are getting congested out there (everybody wants to own a car) and accidents are prone to happen even more. I mean, apart of blaming reckless driver for driving car like an idiot; its also Manufacturer and Government joint responsibility to make our roads safer. Rear seat belts is another good example of safety related law-enforcement but it still not enough.

For the police; they should beef-up their law enforcement activity. I actually pity some of these honest policemen. If they’re being flexible we describe them as lazy, ‘curi tulang’ or ‘malas’. If they’re doing their duties (issuing summons) we describe them as ‘cari duit kopi’ and etc. I personally believe, if you break the law, be ready to face the consequences. Crime doesn’t pay.

About AP’s, duties, taxes and etc. I guess complaining here wouldn’t make much different. I hope that our future car policy will abolished or at least reduce these exorbitant taxes for the betterment of our local car industry; then again they must be a significant impact by doing so. I believe everybody will be able to own a decent turbocharged cars making the roads even more dangerous. Mat rempits can upgrade their kapchais to superbikes. Mod Proton owners can upgrade to Subaru Impreza. The roads will be even more congested turning to grid-lock. Not to mention, all of these expensive cars are super-fuel guzzler (for turbo cars and higher cc cars). Furthermore, the Government might have to totally remove fuel subsidy to cater for these increase of super cars.

Fuel deprivation will be an issue. This what happen to USA, it turns out USA is the world’s largest fuel guzzler in the world. With 25% of oil production shifted to USA. No wonder they need to wage wars at Middle East, to sustain their ever-not-enough lifestyle. In addition to that, USA is very famous making super-fuel-guzzler vehicles like those Humvee which is very common amongst those the gangsta-rappa.

LOL, I think I typed too much. Haha. Have a very good day. :0