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	<title>Comments on: Proton Satria Neo: Top Gear Australia&#8217;s &#8220;Bog Standard Car!&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: ReactiX</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181910</link>
		<dc:creator>ReactiX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 06:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neo is a good car indeed in its class. talking about poor headroom, c&#039;mon, supercar that clarkson guy drive is no better than that, yet he wasnt complaining. and i agree that Neo need pure power injected from CPS engine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo is a good car indeed in its class. talking about poor headroom, c&#8217;mon, supercar that clarkson guy drive is no better than that, yet he wasnt complaining. and i agree that Neo need pure power injected from CPS engine.</p>
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		<title>By: arc_knight</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181560</link>
		<dc:creator>arc_knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha...satria neo design is good not n not so poor...it&#039;s oklar...if no money to buy sporty design car then mai prefere satria noe lo...eventhou slow a bit la...still can protect ur face ma at least...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha&#8230;satria neo design is good not n not so poor&#8230;it&#8217;s oklar&#8230;if no money to buy sporty design car then mai prefere satria noe lo&#8230;eventhou slow a bit la&#8230;still can protect ur face ma at least&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Proton Sagwa</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181526</link>
		<dc:creator>Proton Sagwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh Ezra, you&#039;re pretty thin-skinned if you think stating a simple fact constitutes a &quot;personal attack&quot;.  Lots of parents buy their kids cars, I don&#039;t have a problem with that at all.  It  sure is irritating though to hear one of those kids talking about 30% of a car price as if it&#039;s nothing, when to most people it certainly is something.  

Not even to mention the hypocrisy of someone who defends the NAP, yet goes abroad and chooses a Honda for a reasonably small premium over a Proton. An otherwise unremarkable choice except it&#039;s a choice denied to a lot of average Malaysians.  

Your whole &quot;unaffordable for newly industrialized countries&quot; argument falls to pieces when you consider how much of the purchase price for most makes in this country is due to exorbitant tax.  And frankly it&#039;s always a bit pitiful when people defending government policy inevitably turn in desperation to waving the &quot;At Least We&#039;re Better Than Thailand!&quot; flag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh Ezra, you&#8217;re pretty thin-skinned if you think stating a simple fact constitutes a &#8220;personal attack&#8221;.  Lots of parents buy their kids cars, I don&#8217;t have a problem with that at all.  It  sure is irritating though to hear one of those kids talking about 30% of a car price as if it&#8217;s nothing, when to most people it certainly is something.  </p>
<p>Not even to mention the hypocrisy of someone who defends the NAP, yet goes abroad and chooses a Honda for a reasonably small premium over a Proton. An otherwise unremarkable choice except it&#8217;s a choice denied to a lot of average Malaysians.  </p>
<p>Your whole &#8220;unaffordable for newly industrialized countries&#8221; argument falls to pieces when you consider how much of the purchase price for most makes in this country is due to exorbitant tax.  And frankly it&#8217;s always a bit pitiful when people defending government policy inevitably turn in desperation to waving the &#8220;At Least We&#8217;re Better Than Thailand!&#8221; flag.</p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181508</link>
		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice, proton getting free airtime there:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice, proton getting free airtime there:D</p>
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		<title>By: BanyakMasukWorkshop</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181434</link>
		<dc:creator>BanyakMasukWorkshop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 02:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>topgunthang said,
September 30, 2008 @ 11:58 pm 

thats right. 3rd world countries like thailand and msia should stop taxing the poor and middle class while handing the rich gold plates by the dozen. 
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i know this is off topic, but i think you&#039;re not looking at the whole issue here..do you think this is a problem only facing malaysia and thailand?  the problem is worldwide.. there is just too much money in the hands of too few people..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>topgunthang said,<br />
September 30, 2008 @ 11:58 pm </p>
<p>thats right. 3rd world countries like thailand and msia should stop taxing the poor and middle class while handing the rich gold plates by the dozen.<br />
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<p>i know this is off topic, but i think you&#8217;re not looking at the whole issue here..do you think this is a problem only facing malaysia and thailand?  the problem is worldwide.. there is just too much money in the hands of too few people..</p>
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		<title>By: ALPINA BMW</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181432</link>
		<dc:creator>ALPINA BMW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thats right. 3rd world countries like thailand and msia should stop taxing the poor and middle class while handing the rich gold plates by the dozen. who cares if the thai have to pay more for thier cars(they already get to pay very cheap for thier hookers). as long as malaysia becomes the detroit of asia nd enjoy a successful export centre for worldwide cars while keeping prices lower for all makes to as low as proton currently is. i beleive we as a country have more potential than thailand and should not be held back by proton and associated cronnies.

the future lies in UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats right. 3rd world countries like thailand and msia should stop taxing the poor and middle class while handing the rich gold plates by the dozen. who cares if the thai have to pay more for thier cars(they already get to pay very cheap for thier hookers). as long as malaysia becomes the detroit of asia nd enjoy a successful export centre for worldwide cars while keeping prices lower for all makes to as low as proton currently is. i beleive we as a country have more potential than thailand and should not be held back by proton and associated cronnies.</p>
<p>the future lies in UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait</p>
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		<title>By: Neoman</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181416</link>
		<dc:creator>Neoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok.. let&#039;s back to the topics..
the Satria Neo is very good in handling indeed!!!
only the Stock Tyres need to be replace to high-end type
and i guaranty you the fun on its cornering..
especially corners at hills...
Power Window having no problem...
ntg major has breakdown...
only the engine power...
If it was a CPS, the fun is much more!
Well, i&#039;m still proud to own this car!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok.. let&#8217;s back to the topics..<br />
the Satria Neo is very good in handling indeed!!!<br />
only the Stock Tyres need to be replace to high-end type<br />
and i guaranty you the fun on its cornering..<br />
especially corners at hills&#8230;<br />
Power Window having no problem&#8230;<br />
ntg major has breakdown&#8230;<br />
only the engine power&#8230;<br />
If it was a CPS, the fun is much more!<br />
Well, i&#8217;m still proud to own this car!!!</p>
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		<title>By: assimo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181412</link>
		<dc:creator>assimo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow guys..its out of topic already..it will no ending if we still &#039;fight&#039; and debate about comparing car price with another country..just accept the fact that we stay in Malaysia and just work hard and get enough money to buy whatever car you can afford..now we talk about Satria Neo..hehehe..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow guys..its out of topic already..it will no ending if we still &#8216;fight&#8217; and debate about comparing car price with another country..just accept the fact that we stay in Malaysia and just work hard and get enough money to buy whatever car you can afford..now we talk about Satria Neo..hehehe..</p>
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		<title>By: topgunthang</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181406</link>
		<dc:creator>topgunthang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thats right. 3rd world countries like thailand and msia should stop taxing the poor and middle class while handing the rich gold plates by the dozen. who cares if the thai have to pay more for thier cars(they already get to pay very cheap for thier hookers). as long as malaysia becomes the detroit of asia nd enjoy a successful export centre for worldwide cars while keeping prices lower for all makes to as low as proton currently is. i beleive we as a country have more potential than thailand and should not be held back by proton and associated cronnies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats right. 3rd world countries like thailand and msia should stop taxing the poor and middle class while handing the rich gold plates by the dozen. who cares if the thai have to pay more for thier cars(they already get to pay very cheap for thier hookers). as long as malaysia becomes the detroit of asia nd enjoy a successful export centre for worldwide cars while keeping prices lower for all makes to as low as proton currently is. i beleive we as a country have more potential than thailand and should not be held back by proton and associated cronnies.</p>
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		<title>By: ezralimm</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181397</link>
		<dc:creator>ezralimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;-.- the video was hmm..

somehow top gear without jeremy and crew is just ... erm, not right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;-.- the video was hmm..</p>
<p>somehow top gear without jeremy and crew is just &#8230; erm, not right.</p>
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		<title>By: ezralimm</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181395</link>
		<dc:creator>ezralimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton Sagwa said, September 30, 2008 @ 8:54 pm.
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++ (!) personal attack. that&#039;s low dude.
criticize the info not the person mentioning the info.


biggie said, September 30, 2008 @ 12:50 pm
For the class of cars ezralim talking about the answer is yes. Not comparing Jag or X5 but city/vios and proton.
The problem with Malaysia or more particularly being Malaysian with Malaysian pay is not about the car being expensive (it is not for some class of cars), but for the pay/salary/profit that we get, we cannot afford the cars we ‘need’ to buy. Not to mention the car that we desired.
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++ My point exactly. Cars are indeed more _unaffordable_ in newly industrialized countries than first world countries.


... said, September 30, 2008 @ 4:10 pm
I’ve been to thailand.
Maybe some of the cars are cheaper, but alot of them are more expensive than us. I’ve seen BMW 330i priced the same as M3 in Malaysia. A picanto is nearly RM50K. And i haven’t mentioned about the petrol prices in Thailand…
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++ Yeah, that&#039;s what i was talking about. I&#039;ve got a few friends from thailand, and was surprised to hear that cars there are more expensive and _unaffordable_ than in malaysia... Thailand is supposedly the &quot;detroit of asia&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton Sagwa said, September 30, 2008 @ 8:54 pm.<br />
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++ (!) personal attack. that&#8217;s low dude.<br />
criticize the info not the person mentioning the info.</p>
<p>biggie said, September 30, 2008 @ 12:50 pm<br />
For the class of cars ezralim talking about the answer is yes. Not comparing Jag or X5 but city/vios and proton.<br />
The problem with Malaysia or more particularly being Malaysian with Malaysian pay is not about the car being expensive (it is not for some class of cars), but for the pay/salary/profit that we get, we cannot afford the cars we ‘need’ to buy. Not to mention the car that we desired.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
++ My point exactly. Cars are indeed more _unaffordable_ in newly industrialized countries than first world countries.</p>
<p>&#8230; said, September 30, 2008 @ 4:10 pm<br />
I’ve been to thailand.<br />
Maybe some of the cars are cheaper, but alot of them are more expensive than us. I’ve seen BMW 330i priced the same as M3 in Malaysia. A picanto is nearly RM50K. And i haven’t mentioned about the petrol prices in Thailand…<br />
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++ Yeah, that&#8217;s what i was talking about. I&#8217;ve got a few friends from thailand, and was surprised to hear that cars there are more expensive and _unaffordable_ than in malaysia&#8230; Thailand is supposedly the &#8220;detroit of asia&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: szw</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181393</link>
		<dc:creator>szw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>go proton...</description>
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		<title>By: Proton Sagwa</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181386</link>
		<dc:creator>Proton Sagwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ezralimm said,

Believe it or not, car prices arent that expensive in malaysia as you may believe (yes, they are _unaffordable_ .. but not expensive). Imported cars end up being only about 15-30% cheaper in most countries once all OTR costs are factored in (registration, stamp duty, plates, shipping)

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All I can say is &quot;wow&quot; at the sheer arrogance and disconnection from the masses apparent in that paragraph.  &quot;only about 15-30% cheaper&quot; is not a big deal?  Cars in Malaysia aren&#039;t expensive, they&#039;re just unaffordable?  LOL. Look, not everyone gets a new Honda Jazz from their daddy while studying abroad, so try and see it from the viewpoint of people who work for a living, where 15-30% off of a car&#039;s purchase price can make a huge difference when it comes to family finances.</description>
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<p>Believe it or not, car prices arent that expensive in malaysia as you may believe (yes, they are _unaffordable_ .. but not expensive). Imported cars end up being only about 15-30% cheaper in most countries once all OTR costs are factored in (registration, stamp duty, plates, shipping)</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>All I can say is &#8220;wow&#8221; at the sheer arrogance and disconnection from the masses apparent in that paragraph.  &#8220;only about 15-30% cheaper&#8221; is not a big deal?  Cars in Malaysia aren&#8217;t expensive, they&#8217;re just unaffordable?  LOL. Look, not everyone gets a new Honda Jazz from their daddy while studying abroad, so try and see it from the viewpoint of people who work for a living, where 15-30% off of a car&#8217;s purchase price can make a huge difference when it comes to family finances.</p>
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		<title>By: b4nd3r</title>
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		<dc:creator>b4nd3r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Singapore mmg tak murah laaaaaaa ...</description>
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		<title>By: b4nd3r</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181384</link>
		<dc:creator>b4nd3r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh lupa plak .. Brune murah dol .. Langkawi &amp; Labuan pun murah .. Sarawak .. klo recond murah gak ... dah road tax puh murah dol ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh lupa plak .. Brune murah dol .. Langkawi &amp; Labuan pun murah .. Sarawak .. klo recond murah gak &#8230; dah road tax puh murah dol ..</p>
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		<title>By: b4nd3r</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181381</link>
		<dc:creator>b4nd3r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think proton did a good job. I feel proud of proton. But please be very very responsive to customers&#039; complains. You still have long &amp; tough journey to go. Gudluck ! 

MajuPerak, car price in Malaysia is expensive and so in Singapore. HAve you considered the forex and buying  power of one country to another? Singapore is not a good example if you wanna make comparison consider the COE price fluctuation. 

If you really wanna make global car price comparison, please look it on wider perspective.   Many other factors you need to consider. Do consider UK &amp; US market. They practice open market without protectionism &amp; direct government intervention. 

Rasa2 klo UK ngan US tu jauh sgt .. gi tgk market INdon ngan Thai .. pun dah cukup... emmmm .. wat ever ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think proton did a good job. I feel proud of proton. But please be very very responsive to customers&#8217; complains. You still have long &amp; tough journey to go. Gudluck ! </p>
<p>MajuPerak, car price in Malaysia is expensive and so in Singapore. HAve you considered the forex and buying  power of one country to another? Singapore is not a good example if you wanna make comparison consider the COE price fluctuation. </p>
<p>If you really wanna make global car price comparison, please look it on wider perspective.   Many other factors you need to consider. Do consider UK &amp; US market. They practice open market without protectionism &amp; direct government intervention. </p>
<p>Rasa2 klo UK ngan US tu jauh sgt .. gi tgk market INdon ngan Thai .. pun dah cukup&#8230; emmmm .. wat ever ..</p>
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		<title>By: abtm</title>
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		<dc:creator>abtm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guys it gets better, there might be a Proton Arena as well next week in a ute challenge. thre&#039;s a picture at 
http://www.sbs.com.au/topgearaustralia/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guys it gets better, there might be a Proton Arena as well next week in a ute challenge. thre&#8217;s a picture at<br />
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		<title>By: nyte_skater</title>
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		<dc:creator>nyte_skater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, i saw the Australia version of Top Gear. It makes me proud. 
The stig did 1.22 on the lap where as the VINCE guy did 1.34. The fastest car (currently) Porsche PDK 1.11 secs if im not mistaken.

the link of the vid--&gt; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Sm0sVbJ4Y&amp;feature=related  . Bog standard car starts at 7.01.

CHEERS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, i saw the Australia version of Top Gear. It makes me proud.<br />
The stig did 1.22 on the lap where as the VINCE guy did 1.34. The fastest car (currently) Porsche PDK 1.11 secs if im not mistaken.</p>
<p>the link of the vid&#8211;&gt; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Sm0sVbJ4Y&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Sm0sVbJ4Y&amp;feature=related</a>  . Bog standard car starts at 7.01.</p>
<p>CHEERS!</p>
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		<title>By: ...</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181358</link>
		<dc:creator>...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been to thailand.

Maybe some of the cars are cheaper, but alot of them are more expensive than us. I&#039;ve seen BMW 330i priced the same as M3 in Malaysia. A picanto is nearly RM50K. And i haven&#039;t mentioned about the petrol prices in Thailand...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been to thailand.</p>
<p>Maybe some of the cars are cheaper, but alot of them are more expensive than us. I&#8217;ve seen BMW 330i priced the same as M3 in Malaysia. A picanto is nearly RM50K. And i haven&#8217;t mentioned about the petrol prices in Thailand&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dr_carz</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181355</link>
		<dc:creator>dr_carz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ACCEPT OUR RINGGIT IS DROPPING BECAUSE THE INDON, NEPALESE DAN BANLADESHSS ARE SENDING RINGGIT TO THEIR COUNTRY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACCEPT OUR RINGGIT IS DROPPING BECAUSE THE INDON, NEPALESE DAN BANLADESHSS ARE SENDING RINGGIT TO THEIR COUNTRY!</p>
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		<title>By: ALPINA BMW</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181352</link>
		<dc:creator>ALPINA BMW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>biggie,

even the mass market cars …..Vios is only S$50k and Jazz also S$60K as compared to Mal. …. the point i’m saying cars in Malaysia is one of the highest price int the world ….. dollar to dollar and based on our salary or purchasing power.

Something is just not right here in Malaysia …..

everything is wrong, gti&#039;s are cheaper than cooper s, an audi a4 costs the same as a volkswagen passat....some things we are cheaper but most things they are cheaper</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>biggie,</p>
<p>even the mass market cars …..Vios is only S$50k and Jazz also S$60K as compared to Mal. …. the point i’m saying cars in Malaysia is one of the highest price int the world ….. dollar to dollar and based on our salary or purchasing power.</p>
<p>Something is just not right here in Malaysia …..</p>
<p>everything is wrong, gti&#8217;s are cheaper than cooper s, an audi a4 costs the same as a volkswagen passat&#8230;.some things we are cheaper but most things they are cheaper</p>
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		<title>By: MAJUPERAK</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181346</link>
		<dc:creator>MAJUPERAK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>biggie, 

even the mass market cars .....Vios is only S$50k and Jazz also S$60K as compared to Mal. .... the point i&#039;m saying cars in Malaysia is one of the highest price int the world ..... dollar to dollar and based on our salary or purchasing power. 

Something is just not right here in Malaysia .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>biggie, </p>
<p>even the mass market cars &#8230;..Vios is only S$50k and Jazz also S$60K as compared to Mal. &#8230;. the point i&#8217;m saying cars in Malaysia is one of the highest price int the world &#8230;.. dollar to dollar and based on our salary or purchasing power. </p>
<p>Something is just not right here in Malaysia &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: biggie</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181345</link>
		<dc:creator>biggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Majuperak
For the class of cars ezralim talking about the answer is yes. Not comparing Jag or X5 but city/vios and proton.

The problem with Malaysia or more particularly being Malaysian with Malaysian pay is not about the car being expensive (it is not for some class of cars), but for the pay/salary/profit that we get, we cannot afford the cars we &#039;need&#039; to buy. Not to mention the car that we desired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Majuperak<br />
For the class of cars ezralim talking about the answer is yes. Not comparing Jag or X5 but city/vios and proton.</p>
<p>The problem with Malaysia or more particularly being Malaysian with Malaysian pay is not about the car being expensive (it is not for some class of cars), but for the pay/salary/profit that we get, we cannot afford the cars we &#8216;need&#8217; to buy. Not to mention the car that we desired.</p>
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		<title>By: MAJUPERAK</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181343</link>
		<dc:creator>MAJUPERAK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ezralimm .... do you know what are you talking about ??

Car prices not really very expensive in Malaysia ?? 

C&#039;mon you are either ignorant or pure dumb !! 

Just compare with Singapore which has the COE, Jaguar XF cost less than S$200k as compared to here RM460K and also the BMW X5 ii Sg less than S$200k over here RM550K ..... 

pls dun convert as people in Sg earn $ dollar to dollar if not higher than us in Mal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ezralimm &#8230;. do you know what are you talking about ??</p>
<p>Car prices not really very expensive in Malaysia ?? </p>
<p>C&#8217;mon you are either ignorant or pure dumb !! </p>
<p>Just compare with Singapore which has the COE, Jaguar XF cost less than S$200k as compared to here RM460K and also the BMW X5 ii Sg less than S$200k over here RM550K &#8230;.. </p>
<p>pls dun convert as people in Sg earn $ dollar to dollar if not higher than us in Mal.</p>
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		<title>By: nyawere</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181334</link>
		<dc:creator>nyawere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for the head clerance thing, if you guys can remember, in Top Gear Uk, 
1) There is a roll cage
2) A different seat. They use a Recaro Bucket seat (Meaning that they can re adjust the seat height when fitting the new recaro&#039;s)
3) Even in Top Gear UK, the tall people will always complain about their head hitting the roof/rool cage. 

Conclusion is, IT&quot;S OK...!!!! no big deal...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the head clerance thing, if you guys can remember, in Top Gear Uk,<br />
1) There is a roll cage<br />
2) A different seat. They use a Recaro Bucket seat (Meaning that they can re adjust the seat height when fitting the new recaro&#8217;s)<br />
3) Even in Top Gear UK, the tall people will always complain about their head hitting the roof/rool cage. </p>
<p>Conclusion is, IT&#8221;S OK&#8230;!!!! no big deal&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ezralimm</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181326</link>
		<dc:creator>ezralimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, prices in australia are abit higher for the same trim levels. The only exception to this was last year&#039;s Savvy promotion - proton was forced to drop their prices to AUD14000 for the basic Savvy as Hyundai slashed the price of the Getz, and Mazda was clearing their (old boxy one) Mazda2 Neo&#039;s as well.

Believe it or not, car prices arent that expensive in malaysia as you may believe (yes, they are _unaffordable_ .. but not expensive). Imported cars end up being only about 15-30% cheaper in most countries once all OTR costs are factored in (registration, stamp duty, plates, shipping). Ask your friends in Thailand how much cars cost over there. Protons cost more in thailand, yet are still among the cheapest... and Thailand does not have NAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, prices in australia are abit higher for the same trim levels. The only exception to this was last year&#8217;s Savvy promotion &#8211; proton was forced to drop their prices to AUD14000 for the basic Savvy as Hyundai slashed the price of the Getz, and Mazda was clearing their (old boxy one) Mazda2 Neo&#8217;s as well.</p>
<p>Believe it or not, car prices arent that expensive in malaysia as you may believe (yes, they are _unaffordable_ .. but not expensive). Imported cars end up being only about 15-30% cheaper in most countries once all OTR costs are factored in (registration, stamp duty, plates, shipping). Ask your friends in Thailand how much cars cost over there. Protons cost more in thailand, yet are still among the cheapest&#8230; and Thailand does not have NAP.</p>
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		<title>By: ALPINA BMW</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181308</link>
		<dc:creator>ALPINA BMW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this shows how lousy malaysian cars are</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this shows how lousy malaysian cars are</p>
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		<title>By: BanyakMasukWorkshop</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181300</link>
		<dc:creator>BanyakMasukWorkshop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m quite sure that the Aussie proton gets better specs and probably dirt cheap pricing in comparison, as well as none of the political baggage. Kind of hard to complain when it might be one of the cheapest car in the Aussie market for its class.

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OOPS. anyways..
the aussie cars and uk cars are the same spec as our malaysian high-line.  no point with people here speculating. just some simple basic research will give you the answer.

the neo was also used as a pace car for one of the aussie tracks also apparently.

but interesting bit of news paul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m quite sure that the Aussie proton gets better specs and probably dirt cheap pricing in comparison, as well as none of the political baggage. Kind of hard to complain when it might be one of the cheapest car in the Aussie market for its class.</p>
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<p>OOPS. anyways..<br />
the aussie cars and uk cars are the same spec as our malaysian high-line.  no point with people here speculating. just some simple basic research will give you the answer.</p>
<p>the neo was also used as a pace car for one of the aussie tracks also apparently.</p>
<p>but interesting bit of news paul.</p>
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		<title>By: BanyakMasukWorkshop</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181299</link>
		<dc:creator>BanyakMasukWorkshop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m quite sure that the Aussie proton gets better specs and probably dirt cheap pricing in comparison, as well as none of the political baggage. Kind of hard to complain when it might be one of the cheapest car in the Aussie market for its class.

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the aussie cars</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m quite sure that the Aussie proton gets better specs and probably dirt cheap pricing in comparison, as well as none of the political baggage. Kind of hard to complain when it might be one of the cheapest car in the Aussie market for its class.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>the aussie cars</p>
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		<title>By: Roti Naan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/09/29/proton-satria-neo-top-gear-australias-bog-standard-car/#comment-181293</link>
		<dc:creator>Roti Naan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if mat salleh&#039;s head hit the car roof, Proton should give-away free helmet.

Afterall, Pronton is sooooo charitable and good hearted</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if mat salleh&#8217;s head hit the car roof, Proton should give-away free helmet.</p>
<p>Afterall, Pronton is sooooo charitable and good hearted</p>
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