Comments on: Porsche and Nissan in tussle over GT-R lap times http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:28:56 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: leo barbato http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-220402 leo barbato Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:37:43 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-220402 The last paragraph is a good one, Nissan recommend and advise other manufactures how best to look after their GTR purchase.....how about how to avoid trasmmision blow ups, fuel economy and also saying Porsche drivers need training. I thuoght to get the best out of a Porsche Turbo or GT3's and 2's you need to be a very switched on driver and hear the grannies can drive a Nissan. Lol The last paragraph is a good one, Nissan recommend and advise other manufactures how best to look after their GTR purchase…..how about how to avoid trasmmision blow ups, fuel economy and also saying Porsche drivers need training. I thuoght to get the best out of a Porsche Turbo or GT3’s and 2’s you need to be a very switched on driver and hear the grannies can drive a Nissan.

Lol

]]> By: ALPINA BMW http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-183096 ALPINA BMW Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:59:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-183096 the gt-r can accelerate faster but in the long run the porsche is still faster the gt-r can accelerate faster but in the long run the porsche is still faster

]]> By: mitlanevo http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182706 mitlanevo Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:24:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182706 even the Gallardo is slower than GT-R in 0-100-0mph run.... just because the Porsche is much expensive doesnt mean that it is faster on track than the GT-R.... even the Gallardo is slower than GT-R in 0-100-0mph run….

just because the Porsche is much expensive doesnt mean that it is faster on track than the GT-R….

]]> By: rufus-x http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182646 rufus-x Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:56:16 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182646 "lack of driver skills" ya lorr.. how on earth do they think a chassis engineer can compete with an ex F1 driver from japan in terms of faster driving??? gila ka..? if not..the chassis engineer must be stupid enough not to compete as an F1 driver if he does think that he can outrun even an ex F1 driver... LOL ;p “lack of driver skills”

ya lorr..
how on earth do they think a chassis engineer can compete with an ex F1 driver from japan in terms of faster driving??? gila ka..?

if not..the chassis engineer must be stupid enough not to compete as an F1 driver if he does think that he can outrun even an ex F1 driver…

LOL ;p

]]> By: Jaybond http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182624 Jaybond Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:21:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182624 Too many 911 vs GT-R on the media these days. Would be very interesting if GT-R could be pitted against Ferrari F430 & Lambo Gallardo.Only then will make it a complete supercar challenger. Too many 911 vs GT-R on the media these days. Would be very interesting if GT-R could be pitted against Ferrari F430 & Lambo Gallardo.Only then will make it a complete supercar challenger.

]]> By: fighter_B2500 http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182585 fighter_B2500 Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:47:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182585 its great if top gear team (of coz jeremy clarkson) can give 'his own personal comments' and the stig can test this both cars sure it ll be big bang in supercar segment hehehe its great if top gear team (of coz jeremy clarkson) can give ‘his own personal comments’ and the stig can test this both cars
sure it ll be big bang in supercar segment hehehe

]]> By: kingbrutal http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182517 kingbrutal Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:57:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182517 sorry.... it should be 35.79%.. not 30.9% sorry…. it should be 35.79%.. not 30.9%

]]> By: kingbrutal http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182516 kingbrutal Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:55:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182516 csv said, October 10, 2008 @ 4:14 pm HAHA! nice one nissan! lack of driver skills. pass it to sabine schmitz la. she’s the queen of the nurburing. no one likes porsches. not even their parent company Audi/VW. hahahaha. loveless child. --------------------------------------------------------------- sorry mate... you got that one wrong... actually Porsche AG is own by... guess who? Porsche... and Piëch families. and Porsche have some share (30.9%) in the VW Group, which own VW, Audi, Lamborghini, Seat to name a few... csv said,
October 10, 2008 @ 4:14 pm

HAHA! nice one nissan!

lack of driver skills.

pass it to sabine schmitz la. she’s the queen of the nurburing.

no one likes porsches. not even their parent company Audi/VW. hahahaha.

loveless child.

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sorry mate… you got that one wrong…

actually Porsche AG is own by… guess who? Porsche… and Piëch families.

and Porsche have some share (30.9%) in the VW Group, which own VW, Audi, Lamborghini, Seat to name a few…

]]> By: 4G63T DSM http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182434 4G63T DSM Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:26:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182434 s60t said, October 10, 2008 @ 9:09 pm Car and Driver has a lighting lap every year.this year the GTR was almost at the top of the table,beaten by a whisker by the ferrari 430 scuderia,viper acr and mosler. -------------- All the more impressive. One is a street car, the others, all limited edition lightweight tack focused cars....and all cost more. s60t said,
October 10, 2008 @ 9:09 pm

Car and Driver has a lighting lap every year.this year the GTR was almost at the top of the table,beaten by a whisker by the ferrari 430 scuderia,viper acr and mosler.
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All the more impressive. One is a street car, the others, all limited edition lightweight tack focused cars….and all cost more.

]]> By: hyundai http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182424 hyundai Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:19:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182424 Maybe Porsche puts the suspension in comfort mode and they didn't switch off the VDC... Maybe Porsche puts the suspension in comfort mode and they didn’t switch off the VDC…

]]> By: lchan http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182422 lchan Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:51:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182422 it is normal for car manufacturer's to buy their competitiors product and strip it. Nissan did the same when they were engineering the R35. Nothing new. it is normal for car manufacturer’s to buy their competitiors product and strip it. Nissan did the same when they were engineering the R35. Nothing new.

]]> By: blazerSST http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182414 blazerSST Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:59:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182414 By admitting they bought a GTR to test themselves just shows how insecure Porsche is with their own product. Nissan doesn't have to say anything because they know their GTR is perhaps the only car, other manafacturers had to literally buy to test for themselves, it's that unsettling to them. So Porsche has effectively made a fool of themselves. By admitting they bought a GTR to test themselves just shows how insecure Porsche is with their own product.

Nissan doesn’t have to say anything because they know their GTR is perhaps the only car, other manafacturers had to literally buy to test for themselves, it’s that unsettling to them.

So Porsche has effectively made a fool of themselves.

]]> By: 2fast http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182406 2fast Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:20:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182406 An Interesting view on the conflict http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/10/01/avoidable-contact-17-cheating-nissan-bitter-porsche/ Marketing guys started this mess :) An Interesting view on the conflict

http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/10/01/avoidable-contact-17-cheating-nissan-bitter-porsche/

Marketing guys started this mess :)

]]> By: db8 http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182369 db8 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:42:16 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182369 hehe..lets wait till the new nsx-R come out..see wat porsche gonna complaint later.. hehe..lets wait till the new nsx-R come out..see wat porsche gonna complaint later..

]]> By: abtm http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182359 abtm Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:13:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182359 i think the Porsche engineers purposely drive the GTR as slow as possible, think about it, what will they tell their boss in the post test meeting if they were to conceed that their car's slower...no bonus for them this year...u must always make yourself look good at work! i think the Porsche engineers purposely drive the GTR as slow as possible, think about it, what will they tell their boss in the post test meeting if they were to conceed that their car’s slower…no bonus for them this year…u must always make yourself look good at work!

]]> By: mystvearn http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182354 mystvearn Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:24:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182354 Each GT-R has a different engine, all hand made and different gear boxes tailor made for the car. Porche got a "weak" GT-R? Each GT-R has a different engine, all hand made and different gear boxes tailor made for the car. Porche got a “weak” GT-R?

]]> By: s60t http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182352 s60t Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:09:16 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182352 Car and Driver has a lighting lap every year.this year the GTR was almost at the top of the table,beaten by a whisker by the ferrari 430 scuderia,viper acr and mosler.A fine achievement for a car in that price range,from Japan, and can be used as an everyday car.Hooray for Asia. What about the mighty porsche? they decided not to compete this year as they lost to cheaper rivals last year. But a car can't be judged just by how fast it goes,it's also the feeling that you get when you are behind the wheel,the stares,the oohs and aahs.....and that's what you get for your money if you can afford a porsche,ferrari or lambo. Car and Driver has a lighting lap every year.this year the GTR was almost at the top of the table,beaten by a whisker by the ferrari 430 scuderia,viper acr and mosler.A fine achievement for a car in that price range,from Japan, and can be used as an everyday car.Hooray for Asia. What about the mighty porsche? they decided not to compete this year as they lost to cheaper rivals last year.

But a car can’t be judged just by how fast it goes,it’s also the feeling that you get when you are behind the wheel,the stares,the oohs and aahs…..and that’s what you get for your money if you can afford a porsche,ferrari or lambo.

]]> By: topgunthang http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182350 topgunthang Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:53:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182350 i like porsches and dislike the gtr....but by beating the porsche turbo alone i think nissan (and Ghosn) have achieved the unachievable by doing what the porsche turbo has done to the rest of the competition for the past few years. being an affordable easy to drive supercar that beats all the competition. GT2 doesnt count because its a special model and its already lost its 'face' by being only 4 secs faster than the turbo despite having more power and costs significantly more. with this result i think nissan even has all the japs beaten already and you can see they are trying very hard to tune thier cars to beat that time but still fall short as they almost certainly cant beat the gtr's price. lexus lfa, future nsxR, RX7 replacement all no chance. i like porsches and dislike the gtr….but by beating the porsche turbo alone i think nissan (and Ghosn) have achieved the unachievable by doing what the porsche turbo has done to the rest of the competition for the past few years. being an affordable easy to drive supercar that beats all the competition. GT2 doesnt count because its a special model and its already lost its ‘face’ by being only 4 secs faster than the turbo despite having more power and costs significantly more.

with this result i think nissan even has all the japs beaten already and you can see they are trying very hard to tune thier cars to beat that time but still fall short as they almost certainly cant beat the gtr’s price. lexus lfa, future nsxR, RX7 replacement all no chance.

]]> By: albagmane http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182348 albagmane Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:45:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182348 ouch! Porsche got pwned! The Germans are jealous of the GTR performance anyway... great defense from Nissan too! Would love to see more drama from both of them... lolzzz! ouch! Porsche got pwned! The Germans are jealous of the GTR performance anyway… great defense from Nissan too! Would love to see more drama from both of them… lolzzz!

]]> By: F430CS http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182343 F430CS Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:22:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182343 The dunlop is equipped in the lower spec, while the potenza is in the black spec. It's just plain stupid. Everyone knows that GTR has beaten porsche in lap timing in EVERYWHERE! I couldnt care less the engine output is a lie. With a curb of 1800++ and beaten all the supercars. You may not like because it is a jappy, but it makes history. Just give credit when it is due. The dunlop is equipped in the lower spec, while the potenza is in the black spec. It’s just plain stupid. Everyone knows that GTR has beaten porsche in lap timing in EVERYWHERE! I couldnt care less the engine output is a lie. With a curb of 1800++ and beaten all the supercars. You may not like because it is a jappy, but it makes history. Just give credit when it is due.

]]> By: lchan http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182342 lchan Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:18:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182342 i am abit skeptical about the lap time myself when it was first released. But anyways....c'mon porsche...we know your factory fitted bridgestones are different in compound then those sold to the masses. i am abit skeptical about the lap time myself when it was first released. But anyways….c’mon porsche…we know your factory fitted bridgestones are different in compound then those sold to the masses.

]]> By: torque http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182338 torque Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:47:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182338 Uuuuuuuuuuuuuu....someone is angry! Heh heh! :-) Grow up la Porsche...built better and faster car to beat the GTR. We all know you can't beat the GTR on it's price, so stop the bickering and get to work! Ooorrr...are you (Porsche) jealous that Renault owning Nissan while you buying all those VW, Lambo, Audi, etc and etc? Regret leh never took over Nissan, hehehe! Cheers Porsche...don't worry, I'm still a big fan of your GT2, GT3 and also the cool Gemballa Avalanche! p/s: Ceh! Macam la orang Porsche nak baca komen aku nih! :-P Uuuuuuuuuuuuuu….someone is angry! Heh heh! :-) Grow up la Porsche…built better and faster car to beat the GTR. We all know you can’t beat the GTR on it’s price, so stop the bickering and get to work! Ooorrr…are you (Porsche) jealous that Renault owning Nissan while you buying all those VW, Lambo, Audi, etc and etc? Regret leh never took over Nissan, hehehe! Cheers Porsche…don’t worry, I’m still a big fan of your GT2, GT3 and also the cool Gemballa Avalanche!

p/s: Ceh! Macam la orang Porsche nak baca komen aku nih! :-P

]]> By: Altezzar http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182337 Altezzar Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:46:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182337 Porsche should stop whinning and built cars like Datsun... But there are those who are blinded by personal biase and still wiill say porsche is better cos of brand... not the actual physical car. Yes if you are into playboy image go for porsche but if you want real driver cars with technology to boot the datsun is the answer. Thought of the day : Japs have come this far now imagine where they will be in another 10 years.. all I can say is the conti better adopt kaisen..... and not blantantly sell substandard cars based on a badge.........this joke is getting old. I dont like to think one day I will be able to buy conti cars. Porsche should stop whinning and built cars like Datsun…

But there are those who are blinded by personal biase and still wiill say porsche is better cos of brand… not the actual physical car.

Yes if you are into playboy image go for porsche but if you want real driver cars with technology to boot the datsun is the answer.

Thought of the day : Japs have come this far now imagine where they will be in another 10 years.. all I can say is the conti better adopt kaisen….. and not blantantly sell substandard cars based on a badge………this joke is getting old. I dont like to think one day I will be able to buy conti cars.

]]> By: csv http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182336 csv Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:14:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182336 HAHA! nice one nissan! lack of driver skills. pass it to sabine schmitz la. she's the queen of the nurburing. no one likes porsches. not even their parent company Audi/VW. hahahaha. loveless child. HAHA! nice one nissan!

lack of driver skills.

pass it to sabine schmitz la. she’s the queen of the nurburing.

no one likes porsches. not even their parent company Audi/VW. hahahaha.

loveless child.

]]> By: chuamike http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182334 chuamike Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:59:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182334 Even though a Porsche 911 costs much more than a Nissan Skyline GT-R, their acceleration and speed prowess seem rathre similar. It's just like using the Mitsubishi Evolution to chase a Lamborghini Murcielago. The Evo can easily match the Lambo's speed! :D Even though a Porsche 911 costs much more than a Nissan Skyline GT-R, their acceleration and speed prowess seem rathre similar.

It’s just like using the Mitsubishi Evolution to chase a Lamborghini Murcielago. The Evo can easily match the Lambo’s speed! :D

]]> By: rexis http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182333 rexis Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:52:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182333 Nissan pwned Porsche... Now all Porsche can do is: - find a driver who can do better then 7:29 - add 30kg weight in the 911 and do better then 7:29 No matter what, Nissan still can do 7:29 and if you want to do that as well, join their performance driving lesson and follow maintenance schedule. Nissan still pwned Porsche... Nissan pwned Porsche…

Now all Porsche can do is:
– find a driver who can do better then 7:29
– add 30kg weight in the 911 and do better then 7:29

No matter what, Nissan still can do 7:29 and if you want to do that as well, join their performance driving lesson and follow maintenance schedule.

Nissan still pwned Porsche…

]]> By: droll http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182331 droll Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:41:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182331 oh yeah, and the GT-R is cheaper than the Porsche by a mile...... Nissan 2, Porsche 0. oh yeah, and the GT-R is cheaper than the Porsche by a mile…… Nissan 2, Porsche 0.

]]> By: armandd http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182325 armandd Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:59:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182325 this is getting more interesting.. (eating popcorn).. this is getting more interesting.. (eating popcorn)..

]]> By: szw http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182323 szw Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:43:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182323 fight fight fight fight fight fight

]]> By: longjaafar http://paultan.org/2008/10/10/porsche-and-nissan-in-tussle-over-gt-r-lap-times/#comment-182321 longjaafar Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:39:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8610#comment-182321 This argument is only about lap times. The GT R has beaten Porsche in other tests done by motor magazines and the result have always been the same: Nissan 1, Porsche 0 . They tested not only the Nissan, but a host of others, like the Ariel Atom, Lotus, Lambo, etc and the bad news for all these cars is that Nissan always wins. Instead of griping, it would be better for Porsche to improve their cars, to match Nissan. This argument is only about lap times. The GT R has beaten Porsche in other tests done by motor magazines and the result have always been the same: Nissan 1, Porsche 0 . They tested not only the Nissan, but a host of others, like the Ariel Atom, Lotus, Lambo, etc and the bad news for all these cars is that Nissan always wins. Instead of griping, it would be better for Porsche to improve their cars, to match Nissan.

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