2009 Honda City: in-depth details and specifications!

2009 Honda City

The Honda City is now in its third generation, and has been launched in countries such as Singapore, Thailand and India. In line with the global economic outlook as well as global fuel prices, manufacturers have been downsizing their cars and the new City makes a perfect compact sedan in the Honda line-up slotted in under the Civic for world markets. It is considered to be a world car now, as it has also been recently revealed that the City will also be sold in Europe. Look after the jump for an in-depth look at the new City.

Design

2009 Honda City

The first generation Honda City (not including the old little car that also came with a turbocharged engine) was designed as an ASEAN car that came with engines such as the 1.5 litre SOHC VTEC engine. It was quite a popular choice as a budget and “boxier” version of the Civic.

The second generation is the City that is currently sold in Malaysia, and while it was a solid offering in terms of drivability, fuel economy and performance, it had one major problem – its looks. Being a sedan version of the Honda Jazz subcompact, the Honda City ended up looking like a steam iron. Some even called it a flowerhorn.

Many customers could not get over its looks and opted for the Toyota Vios instead, but most of those who put their money on the City were quite happy with it, especially the buyers of the i-DSI version which offered superior fuel economy. It also allowed customers to enjoy a smooth CVT that always keeps the engine in its peak powerband.

Now for the 2009 model year, while the City is still somewhat based on the Jazz especially with its underpinings, there is no resemblance on the outside at all. Instead, the City now looks like a sedan version of the European Honda Civic hatch with a nice roofline instead of the previous City’s steam iron roofline. In fact, since the European City is based on a platform with a rear torsion bar, the Euro Civic may have more in common with this new City than we think!

2009 Honda City

Honda calls the design concept of the new Honda City the “arrowshot”, as you can see from the sketch above. The car seems to concentrate all its forces on a point at a front, while the rear has a raised deck lid for a more upright stance. This makes the City look like its ready to release energy even when it is static. As with the Honda Accord, there are some hints of BMW-like design with the new City, especially with the rear end and that Hoffmeister kink at the C-pillar.

The front end of the car looks like it was lifted off the European Civic hatchback, with the grille from the Honda FCX Clarity. It looks quite concept-car-like, and I would say Honda was quite brave to have pulled this one off. I think there will be quite a few people who will be turned off by the Optimus Prime futuristic look on the front end – but they can look at the aftermarket “solution providers” if they dislike it. I think the rest of the car looks good – the rooflline does not flow as sleekly as the Civic, but its a huge improvement over the previous City.

As for the wheels, you get either a 5-spoke wheel for the 15 inch size, or those funky Y-shaped 5-spokers for the 16 inch size. For markets that call for a low-cost City (maybe we will get one to compete with the Vios J?), there is a 3-piece 5-poke design wheel cover on steel wheels in 15 inch size. The tyre sizes are 175/65R15 and 185/55R16.

Interior

2009 Honda City

Firstly, the doors open 80 degrees for easy access to the interior. In the interior, you get an instrument panel that is traditionally positioned behind the steering wheel. Good for those who dislike centrally-mounted instrument panels. There are two colour schemes – one beige and one black. Both will likely be used by Honda Malaysia, with the black for a high-spec or sports-specced version of the car and a beige one for the other. The black interior uses black for all the plastic parts while the fabric is in a purplish-black colour. The beige interior uses a grayish-beige tone for the plastic parts while the fabrics are done in beige with yellow overtones.

To reduce the previous City’s odd looks, Honda has made the car 45mm lower, but to maintain a good amount amount of headroom, they’ve changed the seat rail design and reduced cushion thickness (though they claim comfort is maintained) to reduce the driving position by 15mm. This allows a lower roofline for a sleeker shape while keeping a decent amount of headroom.

2009 Honda City

The front quarter window has been removed and the A-pillars have been made thinner by 14mm for better visibility. In addition, the mirror area for the wing mirrors have been made taller but slightly slimmer for a more square shape, compared to the previous generation’s more rectangular side mirrors. This results in an increased mirror size by about 15 percent for better rear visibility. The front wipers have also been repositioned to have reduced front windscreen protrusion by 20mm.

The air-conditioning system is available with both manual and automatic controls, and the center dash area looks significantly better with the automatic controls are the design of the manual controls end up making the dash look cheap. The air conditioning blowers have their noise reduced by 4dB while increasing airflow capacity by 10%. Honda has added better filter to reduce outside odors from entering the cabin. In addition to the front air outlets, Honda has attempted to design the airflow to hit the rear bench via the bottom blowers which travel under the front seat to cool the rear passenger area.

2009 Honda City

There are a few storage areas around the interior – a glovebox in the dashboard, a storage tray for small items underneath the handbrake, a storage area in the center armrest with a cardholder, a pocket for small items under the air conditioning vent on the driver’s side, a coin pocket below that, a cup/bottleholder and a storage area in the front door pockets, a cupholder between the two front seats, a cupholder in front of the shift lever, and cupholders in the rear armrest.

The instrumentation panel features a trip computer that can display fuel consumption in kms per litre in real time, as well as average fuel consumption and distance in km remaining until the fuel tank is empty. With an instant fuel consumption meter, the driver can teach himself how to drive fuel efficiently by monitoring how much fuel he is using in various driving scenarios.

Honda City

The rear seats have a little storage space underneath it and Honda has suggested you store your umbrella there in the product photos they have shot. The rear bench splits and folds 60:40 and has an armrest integrated into the center with two cupholders in it. The Ultraseats feature seems to be gone now – these are probably just regular split-fold rear seats, though there is an option for a version with a 2-position recline system.

The driver’s seat features a ratchet-operated seat height adjuster to adjust seat height by up to 50mm. Something that is quite rare for a B-segment sedan is the ability to adjust the reach of a steering wheel in addition to the usual tilt. This means the steering wheel can move towards and away from you as well as having its tilt adjusted up or down. However, there is also a tilt-only steering wheel option for the City, which means each country’s product planners will have to decide which spec level gets the tilt-and-telescope (rake-and-reach) and which one gets the tilt-only.

Dimensions

2009 Honda City
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The extended wheelbase (100mm longer from 2450mm to 2550mm) allows for a larger interior space. This increases legroom by 25mm. Other changes to the interior include a floor that is lower by 20mm, and 15mm more footroom for the rear passenger. A more comfortable footrest has been installed thanks to the space made available by moving the accelerator and brake pedals 15mm to the right.

While the wheelbase is longer, the wheels are nearer to the edges of the vehicle, resulting in an increase of length of only 5mm, which means its not much harder to fit into side parking spaces compared to the previous City. The trunk exceeds the 500 litre mark slightly at 506 litres, however it seems that the width of the entry into the boot space would be better if it was wider.

  Old City New City Vios
Length 4390 4395 4300
Width 1690 1715 1700
Height 1485 1470 1460
Wheelbase 2450 2550 2550
Weight 1090kg 1155kg 1045kg
Power 110 PS@5,800 120 PS@6,600 109PS@6,000
Torque 143Nm@4,800 145Nm@4,800 141Nm@4,200

New 1.5L i-VTEC Engine

2009 Honda City

The new L-Series SOHC i-VTEC engine in the 2009 Honda City is the same unit as found in the 2nd generation Honda Jazz. It produces 120 PS at 6,600rpm and 145Nm of torque at 4,800rpm, making it one of the most powerful 1.5 litre units today.

Unlike the SOHC VTEC unit in the previous Honda City VTEC which only switched between opening and closing 1 of 2 intake valves per cylinder, the new i-VTEC engine actually varies the valve timing and valve lift, though this is not a continuously variable system like in the K-Series i-VTEC, but instead switches over at pre-set RPM points.

Torque CurveInterestingly you can see a small dip in the torque curve at around 3,300 to 3,500rpm before it picks up again immediately, which is probably just about before the i-VTEC engine switches to a more aggressive cam profile.

Honda actually acknowledges this and claims the torque dip provides a smoother drive, whatever that means! The good news is this engine is compatible with RON92 fuel which should allow you to save on your fuel bills a little.

There are quite a few other improvements in this new engine. The new engine now features 4 valves per cylinder, with larger 28mm diameter intake valves.

Valve area is increased by 4%, and this reduces pumping losses and improves maximum output. The throttle is controlled via Drive-By-Wire which transmits accelerator pedal position via an electric signal.

The engine switches from the use of two oxygen sensors in the previous City VTEC engine to a new air-fuel ratio control system that uses one oxygen sensor and one Linear Air-Fuel Ratio sensor (LAF sensor). This allows a higher level of precision.

The conrod is made of hot-forged, high-tension steel which has an improved fatigue strength of approximately 50%. This allows a 17% reduction in the conrod cross-section area to reduce weight by about 1kg. This also allows the engine to rev higher because of reduced inertial force.

A combustion chamber shape that would suppress engine knock was also developed, which features a more compact piston head thanks to thicker piston edges to prevent residual gas accumulation. The coolant flow in the water jacket has been redesigned from a dual-flow structure to a single-flow structure which flows into the block ahead of the cylinder head. This allows a concentrated coolant flow that improves cooling efficiency, further improving knock resistance.

As a result, engine knock is reduced, which means more aggressive ignition timings can automatically be used, which can be felt with an increase in low-end torque. Torque is further enhanced with the adoption of a resonator chamber in the intake manifold.

In addition, the rocket arm is stronger by 20% thanks to stronger aluminium. Another 1kg is shaved off via the use of a lightweight plastic head cover. The cylinder head has an integrated exhaust manifold which helps bring the high thermal resistance catalytic converter closer to the engine. This allows the catalyst to warm up faster and also reduces cost because there is less precious metal needed in the catalyst.

NVH is improved with the use of an auto-tensioner for the auxiliary belt drive system so that belt tension is stabilized, with the variations in tension automatically regulated in accordance with load. The engine also has a new patterned piston coating is claimed to be the first in the world and a proprietary Honda technology. The shape around the piston skirt is modified to reduce both piston slap noise and friction. The pattern also improves oil retention which reduces friction even more.

Transmissions

2009 Honda City

Both the manual and automatic transmissions available for the new Honda City in our region are 5-speed units. Other markets such as Japan will likely get the CVT transmission while Europe gets a 6-speed i-SHIFT automated manual transmission.

Honda says the ASEAN market prefers the feel that a 5-speed automatic transmission gives, hence the switch from the CVT gearbox in the previous generation City. The CVT also had alot of bad talk going around about being expensive to maintain/replace, which has put off some people I know from considering used Citys.

As shown from the graph above, the 5-speed auto is less rubber-band-like when you hit the throttle from a standstill. It kicks in faster and harder, but soon after the CVT takes over while the 5-speed auto slowly catches up… and you can see towards the right of the graph that performance is similiar after the initial take-off.

There is the option for paddle shifters on the steering wheel – left to downshift and right to upshift. In D mode selected on the gear lever, you can use the paddles to quickly downshift or upshift whenever you need it to, but the transmission returns to fully automatic mode after awhile with no shift activity.

There is another mode – S mode, which at first puts you into a sporty automatic mode that keeps the revs up higher than usual, but if you start using the paddle shifters it goes into a manual mode that stays in the gear you have selected even after the absence of shift activity after awhile. Who knows, you may want to use your 2nd gear for your entire journey for some particular reason – the transmission will let you.

The 5-speed manual has a new carbon synchromesh for smoother shifts and an optimised clutch pedal stroke. The following are the ratios for both transmissions:

0.809
  1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
Manual 3.461 1.869 1.235 0.948
Auto 2.995 1.678 1.066 0.760 0.551

Ride and Handling

2009 Honda City

The 2009 Honda City features a MacPherson strut setup at the front and a torsion beam at the rear. There are a few enhancements over the design used in the previous generation City. For the front suspension, the kingpin axis has been rotated rearward for an enlarged caster angle and increased caster offset. This improves straight-line stability. The ride is also made more supple via larger capacity compliance bushes.

The torsion beam has a reduced spring lever ratio (reduced from 1.54 to 1.11) and an increased trailing arm bush capacity for a more supple ride comfort. Roll steer and roll camber has also been improved for better handling. The rear suspension attachment points have been reinforced as with the rear damper attachment point structure. The rear bulkhead also has increased rigidity.

The car’s Electric Power Steering now has an increased motor capacity (from 40A to 60A) and a modified gearbox mount for a more steady and direct feel, leading to a more enjoyable and confident driving experience.

In-Car Entertainment

2009 Honda City

Now this is quite interesting, by default the Honda City does not come with a CD player. It does support WMA and MP3, but these have to be loaded from USB instead of being loaded from a CD. There is also aux support for analog sound input. Honda probably thinks all the young urban buyers of this new City will have forgotten the CD already, instead preferring to use their portable media player (such as the iPod) or MP3 or WMA files whenever possible, whether burned on CD or stored on a USB drive.

You can either connect your iPod or a USB drive to the USB input. If you connect an iPod, the center rotary selector on the head-unit performs the same functions as the iPod’s clickwheel.

For those who absolutely need CD support, the little storage area accessible when you flip up one panel of the head unit that is meant for you to store your MP3 player is also a 1-DIN slot for you to install your own CD player. Honda’s product planners for each country may also choose to equip their offering with a head unit that has a CD player already built-in.

The 2009 Honda City now also has an option for a premium sound system, though I am not sure whether Honda Malaysia will put this in one of the trim levels of their local offering. The premium audio uses a 45W x 4 channel amplifier sending sound to four PP cone speakers with neodymium magnets and two hard-dome tweeters. The head-unit’s DSP equalizer is tuned to match the interior sound characteristics.

Safety

Thanks to the European homologation processes, the new Honda City has increased safety, especially for pedestrians. The engine hood, hood hinges, front fenders, front bumper, front windshield support structure and even the wipers are designed to absorb energy easily and bend out of the way whenever possible for better pedestrian crash safety. All of this also helps the passengers in the cabin as all the energy is absorbed instead of being channeled into the cabin into the legs of the front passengers.

The brake discs at the front are of a larger diameter compared to the outgoing model and the brake master cylinder has been made longer but with a smaller diameter. Honda says this allows a more powerful brake booster performance while offering a lower pedal ratio for a more linear brake pedal feel.

Other safety features include SRS airbags, active headrests to prevent whiplash injuries for the front passenger and driver, and the usual combination of ABS and EBD. There is still no traction control offered though, not even on the European model as far as I can tell.

So there you have it, the new 2009 Honda City explained to you in-depth together with comparisons with its rival the Toyota Vios and the previous generation Honda City. Next up: a test drive review of the new Honda City!

But for now, enjoy more photos of the new City including live photos from the 2008 Singapore Motor Show.

Video: Honda City at the 2008 Singapore Motor Show

PHOTO GALLERY: 2009 Honda City
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PHOTO GALLERY: 2009 Honda City – European Spec
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PHOTO GALLERY: 2009 Honda City – LIVE Photos
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Comments

  • redwings (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 10:52 am

    Honda M'sia, please get the price right, this is the best B-segment car in M'sia.

    Bravo..when launch? Can't wait for a test drive….

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  • azrai (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 2:33 pm

    We will be the last to get it in the world, as usual. This December right. I wonder how the price will be. Hopefully RM85k. If it can have those RM76k-RM79k teritory, it will be abonus for us + the crude oil already at USD76 per barrel now. Shahril. Kata harus dikota=BN manifesto.

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  • Capt Shopalot (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    Civic, civic

    Bring me this Civic to Malaysia!

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  • ignas (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    thank you, Paul :)

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  • msmar_453 (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    Wow! 5-speed auto transmission!

    Eh? 6-speed AMT also got ah? Pls bring them both!

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  • Keepthepace (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    If priced at RM 85 k +-, definitely i will get one

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  • niGht kiD (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    I thought the rear lamps were quite a disappointment. But with modulo kit City really looks appealing. I believe it will be priced at around 90k.

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  • niGht kiD (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    Hi Paul, do you know which type of air-conditioning system(automatic or manual controls) will Honda Malaysia bring in? The manual controls really make the dash looking cheap. Thanks for the information :)

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  • revive (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    Paul, how tall is that dude that sits at the rear seat? or is that u?

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  • alihms (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    If the new city is launching in Malaysia this December, how come Honda Malaysia has not make any promotion on the existing ones yet? It’s only a month and a half till December. Words on the new City is coming are now widely known. Potential buyers surely know about them and will defer their purchase until the new model comes out. Honda surely doesn’t want their current city sales to stagnate.

    This means either the December date is not right or the new city prices will be marked up significantly from the existing ones!

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  • The Unicons (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    To Capt Shopalot. This is City NOT Civic.

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  • niGht kiD (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    Jazz 2008 was launched here after five months launching in Thailand, so City 2009 shall be here around end of Jan/ early Feb 2009? Happy Chinese New Year :D !?

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  • ignas (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    i assume maybe because their current model is very limited already. that's why they dont have to give any promotion.

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  • xstan (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    Simple..why no dumping price on the old unit is becoz the response on the old unit is also overwhelming..unlike Vios 2nd gen where Toyota rush to dump their old cars even with dscount over RM8K.

    Just hope Honda expend thier productivity plant & this will certainly kill Toyota Sales. Present 1,000 unit p.mth is deemded limited compared to Vios 4,000k p.mth. Honda got overbooked but just cant produce so much thus limited to about 1,000 units registered vehicle p.mth.

    BTW, the Singaporean specs is with CD player. So no worry. M'sian version is likely with CD player.

    However, the price differences in Singapoare is significant..its close to S$10K between old & new unit. Now this is bad.

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  • food_fan (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    City is currently open for booking if you visit any of Honda showroom… Insider info from Honda plant in Malacca, City will only be on MassPro on Q1 2009.. Currently, they are still working on the body work, learning and prepare for the car to go to mass production..

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  • White Jack (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    With a big crash in world economy, if priced it below 79K is more attactive.

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  • WilliamSmith (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 6:13 pm

    I think HM is reaping ppl off with its 2nd Gen Jazz where only the V & S variants are available localy but the SV is left out and all the lower specs (no HID, no LED rear lamps, rear spoiler not standard nor the fog lamps and no glass sunroof even as option) cost more $ to buy now which points us to the similar tricks they’ll be using for this new Gen City which likely will be the S & V variants made available as well and all those nice body kits you saw will cost you a bomb to install them (likely priced from 4 – 6k fully loaded). My bet is it’ll likely be priced at RM86,888 for the so called top spec V variant and with all the modulos kits add on till it’s not so eyes sored (come on guys, transformer grill? Galant like rear lamp? Messy interior designs with bumps everywhere? This is not stepping ahead, it’s just trying to be different and being different while recyclying ideas from everywhere!!), it’ll cost RM90k!!! For the engine itself, it isnt a proper iVTEC if it’s not continuously variable in the cam timing. This is just another way to reap its success on the successful iVTEC made known on the K series engine. Dont get me wrong, I am a Honda Fan as I am driving Honda myself but I think Honda and in this case HM, hasnt been moving forward the way they should be (ie. providing value to their customers) in the lastest offering from the Accord, Jazz and coming City which is very disappointing as a fan of Honda. Dont know what i am talking bout? Just comparing Honda Accord 2.4 vs Mazda 6 2.5L. The 6 has a lot more “goodies” compared to Accord and yet it’s Built in Japan and the best part is it’s similarly priced. Anyone wonder how much premium HM is reaping outta its supporters here considering they have the eco. of scale in the volume they’re commanding here and other beneficial factors? A small sedan like City can be made by keeping the interior designs simple like the VW Polo & Golf while keeping the materials quality higher. A too fuzzy designs make the assembly more difficult and the chance of the panels mismatch is higher as well. Coupled this factor with other factors in countries, it’ll be a lot of lose panels, noisy squeaking sounds hence plenty of trips back to the SC to solve the problem.

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  • mofo (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 6:21 pm

    Thanks for the details on this paul. Thumb up !

    Indeed, Honda had addressed most of the doubts/concerns for new buyers and on the resale value. Well, looking forward for your test drive, Paul.

    Anyway, since rumours – honda going to launch it on DEC. Would this create a huge drawback from potential buyers as car manufactured on YR08 ?

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  • e-nabilll (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 6:30 pm

    thy downsize everyting except the price..honda city designers have sting wrong up their…thy all cant creat a proper rear end of the car…from first gen til now…all their rear end is either way too awekward or jus plain ugly…

    financially speaking….the waja/gen2 CPS makes so much more sence if thy price this honda at 80k above

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  • giannyong (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 6:50 pm

    The new City really look great esp. the bonnet tail and all the added interior designs except the front grille perhaps needs retain the current grille or better like the new Acoord metallic grille. Of course the price should be resonable. Last but not less important is the choice of tramission . Please include Manual tramission in Malysia Market. I personnally like Manual for various reasons better pick up, safe fuel and driver can really drive control the car. Hope the manual tramission is available like the new Vios J model.

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  • bax79 (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 6:52 pm

    I don’t think this new city price can below RM80K la…Full spec with modulo’s kit i think its not far away from Jazz

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  • adunadun (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 6:54 pm

    Very bad car, i dont want to buy….

    p/s
    come on , please say bad thing about this car, YES i mean bad, so later Honda Malaysia will give lower price for malaysian…hahahah….

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  • hulala (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    singapore launghing liow

    now msia wait december

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  • GL3n (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 7:10 pm

    it doesnt hve a cd player?? oh my…but i dont really care la as long as it has a slot for USB thumbdrve. i still can listen music frm it hehe…rite paul? rite evryone? some of u may agree & some of u may not………….whatever

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  • xstan (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    Hiya …already say. Singapore specs got CD player. Check out the Honda.sg.

    Anyway..many of the reviwers from Thailand such as Bangkok post etc..all agree its a better car then Vios. better specs, better shape, better handling …in fact almost every aspect.

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  • MAJUPERAK (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 7:26 pm

    overall it's a pretty decent and nice car for this segment of the cars available in Malaysia. The key thing is pricing ….. let's wait and see …… if it wants to do well … 70K is more appropriate in view of the main competition is Vios

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  • n8cky (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    I would expect and accept if it's 73k – 79k.Max full spec 82k. More than that, City might not selling good like Vios.

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  • n8cky (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    If it's 73k, I might take two for my sis n mum.

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  • ignas (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    its either lousy pricing or being trimed down. but heard that, they will keep the quality up to standard, so beware of the pricing i'll say. the launched price has increases a lot in thailand, india and singapore compared to previous models.

    yea it excels in many aspects, but due to economic run down, i think most ppl will still able to live comfortably without them if priced too high imo. thus go for cheaper vios.

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  • willpower (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    agreed with n8cky, if the price is too catchy, then Honda City will lose its appeal to buyers.

    =============================================Price Right, Specs Right, Feel Right, Colors Right, will book in showroom

    =============================================

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  • mystvearn (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    Nice review, don't need CD's since Mp3 more important now. Good thing it has that.

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  • n8cky (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 8:34 pm

    Agreed with Ignas, the alternatives are too wide. Given that more electric car is OTW, add on we have loads of 70k+ — 80k+ B segmental in the market, if they still goes for the image and brand, well, I see no point in marketing the brand of City anymore. It's about competitiveness. At the end of the day, sales that matter. Well, some might say: "higher profit margin, less sales, why not?". But, I don't think City wants to go into "2nd hand value not so good" conversation, it's a trap!! Most of them knew it, it's a cycle, less sales, less 2nd hand in the market; less 2nd hand in the market, demand slope went down.(*ppl might think scarcity leads to higher demand. But no, scarcity leads to less public awareness, and sooner extinct in the market, and there goes the 2nd hand value); and when it comes back to next generation City, ppl already forget how it was so cheap. That's why Civic jumps from B-segment to C-Seg, in a long period. Honda has to replace their products more often than others(Toyota) do. Yet, Toyota is suffering because of their Vios over priced already. Honda oh Honda, u have to open your eye. In order to win, let your customers win first.

    *A huge example, G always win 1st, then citizen win, end up???

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  • abtm (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    So far all i hear from foreign tests is that it doesn't handle that well as it's tuned for comfort, which is acceptable given most buyers won't even notice, but it does disappoint some of us who's hoping that there will finally be a cheap, relaible and good looking honda that's also fun around a bend…is that too much to ask?

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  • kei9 (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    This should be a great CNY present.

    I'd recommend this more than other's.

    Interior looks pretty spacious from what i can see too.

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  • bugbear (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 9:28 pm

    go city!
    bring down d vios….!!

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  • ericfoong81exe (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    The rear side design look alike the toyota Vios(old badge).

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  • niomr1 (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 10:08 pm

    hope they will offer manual.

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  • n8cky (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    Stil the same, lower n lower, u stil can find more cheap+quality materials..

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  • Nozzydive (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    Heard is open for booking and waiting period is 4 mths!!! unless you want the 2008 car which is unwise to get it at end of 08 since 09 is just a corner away….

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  • ignas (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    well said n8cky ;)

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  • giannyong (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    Yes, I agree niomr1and n8cky. Good Price and Manual

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  • torque (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    WilliamSmith,

    Well said William! I have to agree that I’m too got the feeling that HM is beginning to reaping us (Malaysian) off! But I think it’s unfair if we just pointing out all fingers to Honda. Toyota is doing it too as well! Like you, I ain’t a anti Honda or anti Toyota person. I have both brand at my porch. I also like to say that your POINT of comparing the Honda Accord 2.4 with the Mazda 6 is definately spot on! A well made point. Anyone who just don’t get it, seriously they need to test drive both cars and I know which car is the best bang for buck.

    As to this new City, maaaaaaaaaaaannn…this thing is waaaaaaaaaay good looking compare to my current City. It’s funny to think that Toyota used to had the best looking car in this segment (the old vios lah of coz) and beat the “Steam Iron” City hands down and now….it’s other way around. Toyota should go back to the drawing board if they think their “Dugong” Vios is gonna beat this handsome City! I think that Honda is on the right track which is KEEP IMPROVING! As for Toyota, frankly speaking I don’t get what’s wrong with their heads. The only Honda MUST think carefully now…is the PRICE! Price it right, you’ll see Honda bread and butter model turns into gold but if they price it wrong…like the new Jazz, I’m hardly see one on the road these days compare to the massive trend the old Jazz made.

    Still, I can’t wait to test it when it’s here! My instinct tells me I won’t be disappointed when it come here…credit due to the one deserve it! Well done Honda! Peace.

    P/s: Nice post one paul! Thumbs up!

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  • osh_kosh (Member) on Oct 13, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    1stly Paul, very good posting.. i really enjoyed reading it…

    anyway, this car really look good (compare to previous gen & the new vios)… still need to TD to know how the car really perform but surely a very tempting car… hmmm… make me consider to replace my wife car with this one… but as everybody said, the price must be right :)

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  • White Jack (Member) on Oct 14, 2008 at 12:26 am

    Honda SA (quite senior) just told me the expected price is RM86K la… damn high

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  • xstan (Member) on Oct 14, 2008 at 1:06 am

    2nd Gen unit already cost RM79,800 for IDSI & RM85K for Vtec. So if the high spec Gen 3 unit cost RM86K…is decent & comfortable price man. It price similar to Vios E (RM79K) & G (RM85K) accept it doesnt come in so call J-unk specs. Do u know that Vios price will soon increase & up by RM3K anytime next month or so I heard from all the SA of Toyota.

    In Singapore price differences is almost s$10K bettwen older 2nd Gen with new 3rd Gen unit.

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  • ignas (Member) on Oct 14, 2008 at 1:17 am

    and i heard they going to demolish NAP… ya rite!

    3k more for vios? HID, start engine button…etc? how true is that? LMAO

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  • DRC (Member) on Oct 14, 2008 at 1:21 am

    Hope this City is 75k for 1.3 and 87k for 1.5. Jazz is overpriced, better to get a 1.8 Civic or the quiet smooth comfortable Sylphy; Altis is cheap (but still sold well here). When is Mazda coming PROPERLY to East Malaysia? Waiting for their 3 or 6.

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  • DRC (Member) on Oct 14, 2008 at 1:29 am

    If I were to opt for Vios, I will not be looking forward to HID or start engine button. I will look at the price. Vios G for 85k? OVERPRICED!! But many East Malaysian do not think so, because of the brand. Just look at the ugly 'facelifted' 'new' Altis. The only good point is that it is the only 1.6 with telescopic steering and tinted glass.

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  • White Jack (Member) on Oct 14, 2008 at 2:05 am

    Ya, HID is RM300 only

    and start button is RM250 :)

    So the 3K increase can do a lot more la.

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  • s60t (Member) on Oct 14, 2008 at 3:51 am

    Looks much better than the vios.A friend of mine has the vios 1st gen and city 2nd gen,says the city is much more comfortable except for the looks. This model is a huge improvement in terms of looks.What amazes me is how they fit a 500+ litre boot in a B class car.Even some D class cars will be put to shame.

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  • highway04 (Member) on Oct 14, 2008 at 4:38 am

    well said by adunandun

    totally agree its a bad car price should be… no, must be lower than vios

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  • ignas (Member) on Oct 14, 2008 at 8:25 am

    i remember kacau my SA asking him 'hey hows its goin? the new jazz very bad in sales ya, any booking yet?'. he stared back at me rite there terkejut and speechless lol. he just whispered back to me, 'its slow for time being'. lol then we talked about the new city…

    me personally also would like to go for mazda 3 if its wasnt for the high price and maintenance also the low resale value. its x5 times better than honda.

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  • xstan (Member) on Oct 14, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    The New Jazz is here not aim for Volume Sales.. my fren. Its imported unit & is as expensive as most hatchback car like the Vios mini clone..darn sudenly forgot its name.

    Honda doesnt care if the Jazz over priced coz its not for us budget concious. Its selectively target a totally different segment.

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  • WilliamSmith (Member) on Oct 14, 2008 at 7:23 pm

    Torque,

    I didnt touched on Toyotas because just Hondas and HM alone is enough to write a essay out of their recent practices. And since I am a fan of Hondas, I am very sad to see how HM reaps Malaysians off from their recent offering. I aint sure if this is due to a few bad apples in the management teams or it's the way Honda looks at Malaysians these days, ie. we'll buy Hondas so long it's a Hondas with the min specs like Front Airbags, ABS, EBD, BA, 5 Spd Gearbox, iVTEC engine & G-CON Chassis. Come on HM, you're insulting the Malaysians and definitely to the supporters of Hondas. Just because Toyotas are selling value derived vehicles doesnt meant that you should start doing it as well. What have you realised in your motto "Power of Dream" in term of daring to dream bout offering your fans in Malaysia genuinely more value at min price increase?

    As for the Jazz, it's the HM marketing that decided to "position" it in a "niche" market or the way HM called it "Premium" market segment in Malaysia. For they know very well if Jazz is sold at City's price, it'll fly out of the showroom the way it's now in other countries. Hence they used the CBU idea to push the price sky high (dont know what I meant? Just check Toyotas, even the costing is trade secret to every manufacturers, but we all know that the Corolla Altis formerlly was assembled in Malaysia while currently CBU from Thai. How much they have increased the price? Given similar logic, A City locally assembled is around 85k hence with similarly spec'd Jazz CBU from Thai, it shouldnt be anything more than 100k. Are we really got taxed by our govenment or by HM??)

    The next question that came to my mind is – Premium as the way HM called their new Jazz offering, does cost more, that we all knew. But premium also means many goodies. So where's the goodies in the Jazz? 2 airbags, ABS, EBD, BA, CC, Ultra Seats are all pretty standards on even the Citys let alone other brands. If it's the 5 spds auto then isnt that the soon to release Citys also having it? For a 110k premium hatch, it should be spec'd with 1.5 DOHC iVTEC 130hp 150mn torque, 6 spds iShift Automated Manual Trans, 6 Airbags, ABS, EBD, BA, VSC, HID, LED Rear Lamps, Fog Lamps, Rear Spoilers, Side Steps Garnish, Climate Control Full Auto Air Con, 6 speakers 6 discs in dash changers, Semi Leather Seats with front Bucket Seats while having Sunroof, illuminated side steps, trunk trays, modulos alloys and skirtings and recaro bucket seats as options. Isnt this the right way of doing it? Customers who pay a premium outta whatever they're going to get will have high taste and much harder to please so…please stop with just marketing slogans but the product isnt living it up.

    As well, adding a START/STOP button, Elec Seats with memories, sunroof, LED Rear Lamps, ambient lights, auto adjust door mirrors, curtain airbags and side step garnish wont hurt HM's profit margin that much given it's locally assembled and your eco of scale but it gives each individual 2.4L Accord's customer a much more special feel on owning it else the Mazda 6 2.5L will be the smarter choice. Maybe HM should find out more from MM how they can get a CBU Mazda 6 into Malaysia with so much more spec but priced similar to the CKD 2.4L Accord with less spec. And do apply it on your Premium Jazz to either up the spec or down the price, that's HM's call!!

    P.S. : For Toyotas and their supporters, pls take a good look at the trunk trim, it's made outta PVC board with laminated carpet!!! It isnt even molded. Maybe some doesnt minded but a small thing like this gives a hint to how's their approach to their products offering these days : Min value given = Min cost incurred – Higher Price Charged = More Profit Reported!!

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  • niGht kiD (Member) on Oct 14, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    Well said WilliamSmith ;) Always a fan of hatchback and think of changing car next year, but the price of Jazz really scares me off. Looking forward to Mazda 3 2009 now :D

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  • WilliamSmith (Member) on Oct 14, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    Xstan,

    No offence. But did we ever ask ourselves why Jazz has to be CBU where City gotta be CKD? Why not both CKD so Jazz will sell like..err..Jazz and City will sell like..err..City? Simply put, Honda knows that Jazz has much nicer appeal in its own shape compared to City and only thru Pricing Difference can them "normalise" this and the way to go bout charging it "legally" locally is thru CKD and CBU method.

    It was a scenario with the previous Jazz & City where the only main different is the form factor. But the new Jazz and City each has its own appeal and uniqueness, the CKD Jazz should be considered. But again, HM is worrying bout offending those previous CBU Jazz owners as such move will dampen the 2nd hand value. So if it's aint broke dont fix it, right? Hence there goes the CBU Jazz again targetting those customers who're willing to pay "Premium" for essentially a basic spec'd car.

    Why are we buying into what HM marketing tells us which is not true? For the same amount of money, the Suzuki Swift Sports will be better value. I do think that there's something wrong with the way HM positioning its value these days on its new models launch. The simple evidence of them changing the Civic 2.0's 16 inch alloy rim to 17 inch alloy rim within a reasonably short period of time from the initial launch is a withness of poor market research and product positioning and now this "character" has spread all over to its latest offering. They could be doing it again with the latest Jazz should the sales doesnt picked up the way the previous Jazz has been snatched. How? Maybe throwing in some of the modulo kits for free or thru store discounts. Cheaper Jazz with same spec? Maybe but so far HM has no record of such practice unless external environment gives them a good excuse to lower the price so it wont look so bad on them.

    A free market mechanism works in the way that seller offers a product at a asking price that the buyer is willing to buy. Hence, buyer has the ultimate decision on what price should such product be traded at. This awareness of value provided at given dollar spent has been very weak in Malaysia but now it seems like it's the seller that is caught with the paradigm of cashing in thru strong branding. A typical case took place in Mobile Industry is Nokia. Little value offering and innovatio but high price due to strong branding finally saw its market share eroded as buyers switched to other brands which offer better features and value. Wake up, HM, you dont want to be the Nokia of Automobile Industry together with Toyotas, do you?

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  • alpha0201 (Member) on Oct 14, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    I understand why they ditch the CVT gearbox but I don't understand why they ditch the i-DSL engine as well. Is it i-DSL engine specially made to pair with CVT gearbox? Any clue?

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  • ignas (Member) on Oct 14, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    very educable info there, WilliamSmith. you have my support. thanks.

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  • topgunthang (Member) on Oct 15, 2008 at 6:45 am

    the city wont be sporty. less sporty than the jazz though u can hardly say the jazz is sporty.

    reviewed about 10 days ago
    http://carsguide.news.com.au/site/motoring-news/s…

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  • Pro (Member) on Oct 15, 2008 at 6:49 pm

    Paul, when will it come to malaysia? How much does it cost anyway? Please keep me informed, thank you.

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  • ALPINA BMW (Member) on Oct 15, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    i hope we get climate control

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  • engdau (Member) on Oct 16, 2008 at 12:12 am

    On 18 Dec 2008.

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  • mofo (Member) on Oct 16, 2008 at 3:41 am

    WilliamSmith,

    You do have your point here, however from my point of view – the main reason is resale value/second hand value. So far, what have they done to counter these – thru attractive low interest rate.

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  • Xx- Ferrari -xX (Member) on Oct 16, 2008 at 3:48 am

    far betta than the ugly Vios………..

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  • alansmith14 (Member) on Oct 16, 2008 at 6:00 am

    hi engdau r u sure?

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  • WilliamSmith (Member) on Oct 16, 2008 at 6:49 am

    Mofo,

    If a solid 2nd hand value can be established thru attractive low interest rate, then many car manufacturers would have such good 2nd hand value already. Do you think that if Proton today announce that all their models come with super low interest rate can instantly or given a few years time make their 2nd hand value more solid? I doubt that.

    Low interest rate or as they liked to use it to attract customers still have to be subsidied or "financed" by "someone" or "somebody". Assuming current market of 3.88% is the normal rate, a typical car loan of 100k at standard rate, the interest component is around 19.4k – 34.9k, 5 – 9 yrs respectively. Given the manufacturer announced attractive low interest rate of 3.48%, a reduction of 0.4%, the interest component is now 17.4k – 31.3k over 5 – 9 yrs respectively. In a real case where they'll likely limited a loan period up to max 7 yrs for the low interest rate promotion, they'll need to subsidie the buyer 2.8k for a loan amount of 100k. A 100k loan given buying Honda, most buyers will be buying the Civic 1.8, 2.0 or Accord 2.0. A 3 – 4k subsidy out off 114k – 142k selling price isnt is a lot of "give away" considering some other manufacturers actually discount more than 10k given the same price range. So the point? By not discounting their new car price and hold it steady, it's one of the factor contribute to solid resale value. A typical case? Just look at Naza Kia Sorento. Was CBU at 190k and in few yrs time they decided to CKD, price plumped to 138k OTR. So those who bought the CBU model initially cant be expecting to sell their car at 120k after 4 yrs even if it's a reasonable depreciation, right? And even @ 138k OTR, some deal still can be transacted at as low as 125k, a handsome discount of 12k!! Have anyone seen HM discounting their model up to that amount to clear stock, in a massive scale manner?

    Solid resale value, in my opinion, has other omportant contributing factors. Factors like well established dealer network, reputable brand due to proven historical track, up to date technologies, good pre and post sales services, perceived value for $ on product offering for its reliability, decent handling and good design all affect the 2nd hand value of a particular model.

    Feel free to disagree with me because that's where ideas and opinions flowing thru as the main point of sharing, isnt it? Have a nice day, everyone.

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  • alansmith14 (Member) on Oct 16, 2008 at 10:42 am

    do you all know the confirm date of new city launch???

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  • TheDuck (Member) on Oct 16, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    Wow. It's certainly going to be a great car.Again, let's just hope the price is right.

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  • ALPINA BMW (Member) on Oct 17, 2008 at 4:57 am

    the jazz is alot nicer though but expensive

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  • EVO8223 (Member) on Oct 19, 2008 at 3:45 am

    bad new. i hope it deos not true. The sale man just call up that honda city only available in two spec and the price is at 80~K lower spec while > 90K for high spec. Can anybody confirm that ?

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  • adunadun (Member) on Oct 19, 2008 at 10:42 am

    remember , always say bad thing about hondaa, i want to buy at lower price… so no people should talk good thing about this hondaa,

    very bad lohh,,, bad designnn..what is this? dugong with teeth?….how come they sell this thing,, ayooo

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  • xstan (Member) on Oct 20, 2008 at 6:00 pm

    Don get it ..present IDSI RM79,800 (close RM80K) & VTEC RM85K.

    So how much lower do u expect…RM50K??

    Thus far Thai , Singapore & India increases their price for the new unit. I guess Australia follows too. U mean Honda M'sia going to work opposite & reduced significantly just for u guys?

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  • franson_CE (Member) on Oct 21, 2008 at 2:25 am

    i got the source is standard rm85k – rm86k, full is rm89k

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  • adunadun (Member) on Oct 21, 2008 at 5:04 am

    ayo,,some people dont know what joke are…..come on aa…i know honda champian like u … what car u use?

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  • ignas (Member) on Oct 22, 2008 at 8:21 am

    i like your source, franson_CE :D

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  • franson_CE (Member) on Oct 22, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    yea~ from what i got is malaysia will launch it on mid of December~ there will be having 2 trims~

    Full spec – RM89k – Black interior

    Standard spec – RM85k – Beige interior

    price increased + interest increased…

    really need to consider well on investing this or not =

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  • ignas (Member) on Oct 28, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    cant wait for the launching date…. at the meantime waiting for the test drive review from paul too :)

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  • mrsteeldoctors (Member) on Oct 31, 2008 at 3:31 am

    ooh..not available in white color..

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  • nyte_skater (Member) on Nov 01, 2008 at 2:48 am

    source has it toyota is going to bring down the price due to recession as well as the interest. i reckon honda will do the same thing.

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  • rapidbumi (Member) on Nov 10, 2008 at 1:51 am

    better looking than vios… how come malaysia always get it last… ????

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  • sahharudin (Member) on Nov 17, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    i think this city is very impressive, but for 1 year only, it will be the same method like civic and accord, just make big impact for 1 year and after that we find that those design is too much…let see how it made, what material, what the engine spec, gearbox type, and most of it, fuel economy…18 km per liter at highway?? what is the speed range? 80 kmh? no air-cond, single driver?? will u buy this car at almost 90k n not enjoying the maximum engine torque and horse power??? not to say drive at 180 kmh, how about 120 or 110 kmh? will it about 15 km per liter like vios?????thank stan!

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  • fooman0522 (Member) on Nov 30, 2008 at 6:37 am

    I paid 2k and prebooked this City today..the sales rep told me it comes in 2 ranges in M'sia, different with ~5k, surprisingly both comes in BLACK interiors (instead of 1beige 1black), main differences are the fog lights, flip-over of the back-seats, and silver-lining on the steering, etc..Sadly, both ranges come with the MONOLOG-look audio system, instead of the digital-button (she said that was europe's)..In M'sia, it comes with 5 colours: silver, black, polished metal, blue, and beige gold only..(white and red NOT)..Those WHITE-fans maybe can wait for 1 year so like the VIOS? FYI, they estimated the price for the higher spec will be RM93,800 (RM89k to RM94.5k) and RM85-88k for the lower spec..oh ya, she said it will consumed more petrol than the previous version..(sounds bad)!..haha..still I trying to convience myself with the decision to book it!

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  • OpenMind (Member) on Dec 07, 2008 at 4:08 am

    I think the funniest thing in Malaysian is that despite that our per capita income is much less than all developed countries but our purchasing power seems to on a totally different track.

    Many had expressed as tough RM85k for this new city is a steal….

    Come on people, do a quick googling, you will find that the price for a civic is only about RM50k in many countries and we are here more than willing to buy a city for RM85k perhaps with wait period of about 3-4 months.

    I know that we can't compare directly. But the fact that openly tell of the price that you are willing to pay is just too naive (the fact that your proposed price is much higher, and believe me Honda will be laughing all the way tot the bank).

    Anyway, with the global car sales dropping and coupled with the current economy situation, most car manufacturers already fnding way to cut cost and increase sales. I guess Malaysia will be they no. 1 market looking at the great profit margin and low expectation of their car buyer.

    Good Luck Malaysia.

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  • pinkolor (Member) on Dec 12, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    18th Dec the date of launching bro.. Check it out.

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  • cax4784 (Member) on Dec 17, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    hoh.. stupid or what? better use proton instead. honda sux!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Aaron Ch'ng You (Member) on Dec 20, 2008 at 12:14 am

    Heh ……. Stupid or what? better use toyota instead. honda also good but i support toyota berhad (UMW)

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  • alanchai (Member) on Jan 02, 2009 at 8:42 am

    See… i already said this car like Tank, or like transformer, now honda not only got Askimo but transformer .

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  • bacterium (Member) on Feb 01, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    OpenMind: Honda won't laugh all the way to the bank. The profit they make per car is still the same. It's the AP holders and the primary distributors of Honda cars in M'sia will be making the money.

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  • hi dear friend,i m looking forward to buy a city this month, according to my research, price is 1.5s-84,980 OTR and E-RM89,980 ,max discount i get is RM1,200 cash rebate.if i able to buy in group of 3.who want to join me in order to bargain for a better price?now we already got 2 ready buyer and wait for another person to join my group.any better offer from ur dealer?i hope i can get better deal;)please share with me.thx!

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  • hi dear friend,i m looking forward to buy a city this month, according to my research, price is 1.5s-84,980 OTR and E-RM89,980 ,max discount i get is RM1,200 cash rebate.if i able to buy in group of 3.who want to join me in order to bargain for a better price?now we already got 2 ready buyer and wait for another person to join my group.any better offer from ur dealer?i hope i can get better deal;)please share with me at [email protected] or sms me at 012-9512911.thx!

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  • pinkolor on Feb 13, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    jay_fsj82 I’ve book the car (E) from kosmocar at glenmarie and the dealer did promise me nothing. I’ll get mine might be next week. Since the chasis num already got. Can I be count?

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  • i think if u already paid n booked,then i dont think so they can give u any discount.anyway,u can try to ask them to give u better offer.tell them ur fren get better offer frm othr branch la.wish u good luck

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  • chantel k8 on Feb 26, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    new city looked like BMW at the back and accord in front what do you think?

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  • im lookg frwrd to book this car com Honda SE Mr. Lee of Sg.Besi, he was kind enuf to give me discount of RM1000 for each models respectively. As for the car, wow..i luv it so much. I remembered last time i was in lov with car was Myvi..then vios.but that was then, now the new city..fuhhh! damn I love it so much.

    Anybody else got better discounts other than [email protected]? anyplaces? tenks.

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  • zulims on Mar 16, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    hi guys..been using this new city since mid feb…hmm..just great n worth to buy..in many aspects comparable to vios plus more pickup in the lower gear…style aspect; sure will get noticed when u cruising thru shoplots:)

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  • Ooi Chew Wah on Mar 20, 2009 at 1:42 am

    Honda M'sia must ensure that its maintainence and parts are reasonably priced if not cheaper than Toyota or other make , especially gear box and engine parts , for it is a established good brand ,make less $ and it will beat other competitors in its category ! Think long term is what it needs to do .

    So far , the City 08 model that I drive is sfsg, fuel consumption is quite ok ,heard about the gear box but Auto Writers said City is good for city driving and not for racing and rough ride , people got into gear box trouble bcos of their rough and make my day kind of rough driving style ,u know …..those Jin that vrooooom their car and speed like nobody's problem.

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  • sieklc on Apr 02, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    i am new honda city owner.honda claim new city can reach 17km/litre.

    yes,i could c it at long distance.city driving can just reach 10km/litre

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  • naresh on Apr 12, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    please give the price and millage details of Honda city

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  • xanax on Apr 13, 2009 at 10:07 am

    can ugly console be remove to fit 2din dvd player ???

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  • raman on Apr 15, 2009 at 4:44 am

    please send me price list of automatic gear car 2009 model price list

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  • kamenrider on Apr 15, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    I've test drive New CT..

    I have read all comment about it ( and make me confiused ).. gud or bad..

    So, I make a list on it..

    1. the exterior I think is great, hi-tech+modern+sporty on design statement. got lots of rigid and sharp line.. some of it u can see in defferent angle..

    2. Smooth handling. a little bumpy..but have a quite engine (only when crusing) (biasa la auto) gud for me for long distance drive ( balik kampung) rather driving My Viva.

    3. the interior is ok (not relate to d ex.. why aa? ).. obvios on audio dashboard panel. but is still ok..meter ar also a bit small. waja cps is better. door panel is great.. power window just like my viva ( hv 2 crfulll on rainy day. space is gud,nice n neat. hmmm the headrest is like darf vader helmet from behind?!

    4. not gud for kaki lenjan n racing (sometimes like to do that too with my proton). but xpala kot. .

    5. Tips shift is like playing PS2 (grandturismo or mostwanted) ah best gilerr..

    6. My dream car is Lancer n Civic.. but can't affort it.. but this new CT is just the thing i need (affodable n have style).

    7. hopefully New CT is good choice for me.. already booked laa..

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  • honda city 2009 is the prettiest car in malaysia now! i jux booked it

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  • Linda on Oct 18, 2009 at 5:03 am

    Hey, Paul,can u tell me where can i order the Honda City Sarung?If u know, please let me know the details and send email to me, thanks!

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  • Hello for all…i plan to buy NHC before the end of this year. I noticed the major different between S and E specs is about the Paddle Shift that only available on E specs. My SA told me that from survey conducted from her customers, she found that seldom customer use the Paddle Shift feature during traveling. She advised me to buy S specs if I am not really concern about accessories or added cosmetics. Referring to the car review from various E specs owner, the fact is that the Paddle Shift is very useful during escaping corner in short time…and that will make saver fuel consumption rather than using D mode in gear. Some claimed that for long travel especially for uphill and downhill purpose, it is better to use S mode in gear for better FC. Is that true for all review facts??? I am in confuse now…… I hope any E specs owner can explain in details here for assisting me in making decision…… S or E, E or S…..huhu confuse for all time……… :cry: Thanks :D

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    • Abraham Tawi on Aug 02, 2010 at 7:19 pm

      I know its very late to say anything, so you may have bought NHC already but hey better late than never.

      First of all, the Honda City that I am talking about is my dad’s which i have been driving for most of the time. It is Bold Beige in colour and in E-Spec

      First of all, the paddle shift. Being a computer generation, I feel that it is very good to have the paddles to promote sportier driving. The paddles are not connected to a dual-clutch, so there is some noticeable lag between changes. And for the fuel consumption matter, I think it is really worth. You can change into fifth gear as early as 45km/h, but it pointless. 60km/h is the ideal speed though :) However, changing the gears manually every time can be troublesome and you can forget some times and you will wondering why isn’t it changing, then you realise that you’ve been an idiot because it is still in manual mode (S). The fuel consumption will decrease over time as my dad’s car has 14.3km/l and considering its me at the wheel most of the time, its pretty impressive

      Other good features the E has over the S, it the rear underseat tray for wet umbrellas, the rear reclining and foldable seats which also comes adjustable headrest and rear armrest which has extra 2 cup holder (The S-spec only has 3, 2 in front the gear shift and 1 behind it). The bigger wheels (16″) and chrome tail pipe enhances the exterior while the folding side mirror with integrated turn signal, makes you be in tune with the times as most cars have it as standard. The extra 2 speakers is also a great welcome but being not a music fanatic, i didn’t really spot the difference.

      Then there is the fog light which gives a wider view as the standard beam gives a forward range only. While the leather steering wheel gives excellent grip and the steering wheel audio control lets you control you tunes even more.

      Ps: Am a car bore, not a sales assistant :)

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  • Why is the front of the silver color CT more cooler? Wats the diff?

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  • bassel saleh on Jun 16, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    the honda city….how much does it cost in lebanon ??

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  • satish kumar saini on Feb 27, 2011 at 1:16 am

    I want to install auto climate control system in my Indian Honda city 1.5 VMT i-vtec.Pl advise & guide me.From where i got it.Thanks -Satish INDIA

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  • ramsoorya on Mar 14, 2012 at 11:17 am

    guys can anyone tell me what is the distance between front tyres??..

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  • shilo on Jan 07, 2013 at 11:13 am

    bro can i know fuel consumption for honda city. per litre how km can go

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  • nadeem chudhary on Jul 12, 2014 at 3:24 am

    i love honda city,its not my profession,but i motivate the 11 persons for buying honda city.and 9 persons buy honda city 2010 and 2012 model,now i am trying to some more advocates or my colleagues.
    trying to upgrade fule miliage per litter should be min 20 to 30 km/

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  • nadeem chudhary on Jul 12, 2014 at 3:26 am

    honda city consumption in one litter is min 15 to 18 km

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  • Kartik on Feb 26, 2016 at 8:28 pm

    This is wow.Thanks for this review.I have the same car but the auto climate control is not available in India

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