Proton MPV spyshots, and its not a Toyota Wish-based test mule this time!
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This could possibly be the first spyshots of the new Proton MPV and it’s all thanks to reader the_king, who snapped them on the highway near the Prai Industrial Estate. We previously saw the car’s drivetrain being tested in a test mule based on the Toyota Wish.
I believe that judging from the proportions in these photos you can already judge that the MPV will be quite tall, which should mean good headroom which is especially needed when you are trying to get into the third row from the second row doors.
As with the Satria Neo spyshots, there is no front view as the photographer was alone in the car. We can see a little bit of the vertical rear lamps exposed and as expected they have a similiar layout to the one in the teaser video, with the brake light positioned at the bottom and the signal lamps at the top.
Those wheels look like they’re 15 inches in size but because this is a prototype test vehicle, the wheels could be different or perhaps the right size but of a different design than the one that will go onto the production vehicle. But even so, we can’t see that detail in these photos because the Proton MPV was moving.
Look after the jump for 2 more shots, or have a look at my previous posts linked below with exclusive details on the new Proton MPV.
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October 14, 2008 @ 1:08 pm
I’m 1 st !!!looks like NIssan Grand Livina!!!
October 14, 2008 @ 1:18 pm
Toyota Advaza!!!!…
October 14, 2008 @ 1:20 pm
aduhai.. siannyer design mpv ni.. nampak mcm tak cantik langsung! hampeh!!
October 14, 2008 @ 1:30 pm
aduhai.. siannyer design mpv ni! tak menarik langsung! ni design mpv nissan grand livina.. tiruu je laa!! hampeh!!
October 14, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
Why no front pic 1? Onli the back. Not shiok enuf. Seems not bad from the back.
October 14, 2008 @ 1:33 pm
Proton Basher Team on stand by mode…
October 14, 2008 @ 1:34 pm
Judging from the pic, this MPV is actually quite huge! I wonder if Proton’s 1.6 CPS under the hood will be sufficient to move this MPV. I have to say the design is quite nice and clean and hopefully it will be translated to its performance and handling. I am pretty sure it will be well accepted to Malaysian market and foreign market later.
I hope Proton will speed up its effort to introduce this MPV in bigger engine capacity like 1.8 lt to 2.0 lt (with better fuel efficiency) and also to introduce the NGV version.
Well done Proton! (I hope that Proton will choose the name sent by me for this MPV!!!! – there is 1:251,000 chance I might win it! hahaha)
October 14, 2008 @ 1:38 pm
Where is the front pictures ??
October 14, 2008 @ 1:40 pm
quite a disguise…
maybe as tall as innova?
October 14, 2008 @ 1:40 pm
Can’t wait to know what kinda engine will be under the hood. Hopefully it’ll be an upgraded version of Campro. Most probably the CPS version. However, may hope that it can come with a better 1. Campro CPS 1.8L sounds more interesting.
October 14, 2008 @ 1:42 pm
look nice from the back.more spyshots!!
October 14, 2008 @ 1:42 pm
lemme guess…1.6cps turbo?
October 14, 2008 @ 1:43 pm
The photographer aka driver was driving alone.. Turning back to take a photo shot is just not possible, or simply too dangerous.
October 14, 2008 @ 1:49 pm
Dun wori, this MPV will be the best quality ever produced by Proton!
The engine will be Campro CPS 1.6.
October 14, 2008 @ 1:55 pm
Oh-haaa! Hmmm…
October 14, 2008 @ 2:03 pm
I think paul got so excited with the spyshots that he mis-spelled the title, ‘Wish-baesd’…..hahahahahaha…chill paul! Take a breather and please do correct ur spelling ya!
Cheers!
October 14, 2008 @ 2:32 pm
not so bad any info on prices 70K-80K???
October 14, 2008 @ 2:37 pm
livina stance, innova size
… yum!
October 14, 2008 @ 2:44 pm
Refer this http://paultan.org/forum/index.php/topic,1117.0.html Looks like avanza hybrid with Citra.
October 14, 2008 @ 2:54 pm
numb3r7mu said,
October 14, 2008 @ 2:32 pm
not so bad any info on prices 70K-80K???
Price around 65-70K
October 14, 2008 @ 2:55 pm
Looks like quite a big MPV. 1.6CPS will be underpowered unless its a turbo but you don’t find many turbocharged MPVs. Lets hope its a 2.0L CPS and selling for less than the Rondo and with more features.
October 14, 2008 @ 3:12 pm
Dun worry people, underpowered issue has been solved.
I can only say that much right now!
Cheers!
October 14, 2008 @ 3:20 pm
Well, all I can say, it looks exactly like the clay model I’ve seen, but the plate number holder is at the bumper now.. hmmm
October 14, 2008 @ 3:28 pm
well…well… i think i need to start saving now..
October 14, 2008 @ 3:32 pm
D back viper like kinda sesat outta angle…..?!
October 14, 2008 @ 3:38 pm
The wheels look a bit of undertyred
Rear wiper similar to the ones used in Myvi, Avanza, etc
Below the wiper, there’s sumthin poping/jutting out…I predict it would be the proton lion/tiger logo or could it be the rear boot knob opener or whatever u call it…
cant comment much but overall looks promising…Proton First MPV…
October 14, 2008 @ 3:51 pm
Dun worry people, underpowered issue has been solved.
I can only say that much right now!
Cheers!
(sifu)
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any hint please,
i hope it not the gear box that 100kmh/3000.
very much appreciate if it from the engine itself which is torque, therefore able to push
100kmh/at 2700 or the lower the batter,
October 14, 2008 @ 3:53 pm
sifu : any news whether it will be fuel efficient?
October 14, 2008 @ 3:53 pm
hareshi,
that because the actuall size of back-screen is kinda larger from the spyshot picture..
October 14, 2008 @ 3:56 pm
hareshi,
that because the actuall size of back-screen is kinda larger than on the spyshot picture..
October 14, 2008 @ 4:12 pm
The car looks taller than it is because of the rear camo. The rear screen is actually quite large/lower, given the location of the rear wiper.
It probably throws the looks off since the wheels are quite small. I’m sure it would look better porportioned with 16″ or larger wheels.
My only concerned is the powerplant and if its powerful engouh to lug a big vehicle AND the stuff you can cram into it. Unfortunately, we will have to be wait for the launch…
and as always for a proton, reliability is a big question mark, and risking getting flamed, I will still have to point this out. We just had a brand new Perdana company car overheat on the highway. So there you go proton, doen’t really inspire confidence that you cant get an old product working right, let alone a new one……
I hope you end up making a good car, competition is always welcomed in the auto business…..good for us.
October 14, 2008 @ 4:18 pm
i think the back wind shiled is actually much bigger than the picture, cause the wiper position is way too low. I think the taped it black to make it look smaller. And if u look at the earlier clay model, it actually slunting down like a V shape.
And if u look at the 3rd row window (imagine it untaped) it looks almost as long as the 2nd row. This means that this car is no longer in Avanza territory, but alreamy mau makan Innova (in terms of size)
Whatever it is, i am proud that Proton is finally getting it right…!
October 14, 2008 @ 4:19 pm
sorry, forgot the link to the clay model
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb317/quwaidirulhadiif/mpv_rear.jpg
October 14, 2008 @ 4:42 pm
If there’s a 1.8 or 2.0 in that thing, maybe they should put it in the H-Line Gen-2 and kick the CPS 1.6 into the L-Line and M-Line models.
October 14, 2008 @ 4:46 pm
The wheels look a bit of undertyred
Rear wiper similar to the ones used in Myvi, Avanza, etc
Below the wiper, there’s sumthin poping/jutting out…I predict it would be the proton lion/tiger logo or could it be the rear boot knob opener or whatever u call it…
cant comment much but overall looks promising…Proton First MPV…
October 14, 2008 @ 4:50 pm
Waahhh looks nice la.
This one sell RM58K will be great lor.
October 14, 2008 @ 4:56 pm
Regarding the underpower issue, the problem has been solved, many things have been looked into, ECU mapping, resonator box for the snorkel (air intake system), gear box ratio, and so on. Dun worry about the final ratio, as the final ratio is set for crusing and low fc, its the other 4 (3 for AT) ratios that has been tweaked. The fc test is still going on, and if also the results are out, i can’t reveal it here and u guys need to wait for the figures on launching day! Sorry abt that ya!
Cheers!
October 14, 2008 @ 4:59 pm
so huge
October 14, 2008 @ 5:02 pm
Body looks big… So can the 1600cc engine moce the car?
The tyre is so small…
October 14, 2008 @ 5:19 pm
sifu: FC result is NOT OUT YET?? huh! so what if the result show the fc is very2 bad, what proton can do?
October 14, 2008 @ 5:26 pm
If the results are not as expected or targetted, certain measures or improvements will be done to improve the fc. U guys dont need to worry abt the fc, as it is a main concern for everybody especially car manufacturers. So be assured that when the mpv is lauched, everything is superb!
Cheers!
October 14, 2008 @ 5:28 pm
Belief it or not …..this is Chery Eastar based Proton MPV
October 14, 2008 @ 5:36 pm
si-fu, do you work at Proton? <_<;
October 14, 2008 @ 6:08 pm
is te wiper misplaced..seems too small for te huge windscreen..if it is indeed proton mpv…all d best proton..
October 14, 2008 @ 6:10 pm
What MPV is this??
http://monfere.blogspot.com/2008/10/exclusive-uknown-mpv-spotted.html
October 14, 2008 @ 6:11 pm
Proton Gerobok is coming…
Syed Zainal, dont ever think wanna sell it well,but build it well first!
But all proton all builds sucks,but well selling also.
October 14, 2008 @ 6:18 pm
at least its on a proper monocoque chassis.. mpv looks like it rides quite low to the road, unlike van-based avanza and innova that ride really high up. the ‘camo’ is surprisingly light, with only the rear section covered up, (and maybe the front), with the side panels uncovered.
looks wide also. space should not be an issue i think.
October 14, 2008 @ 6:35 pm
the car dimension looks like it’s kerb weight around 1.5 metric ton.
poor power/weight ratio if fitted with 125PS 1.6 cps powertrain.
anything lesser than 150PS pulling this car, for sure FC is bad and underpowered.
October 14, 2008 @ 6:39 pm
Base on the photo it’s size look quite same as Innova and the wheel base height is lower than most of the MPV so expected to have a greater cruising stability….
October 14, 2008 @ 7:32 pm
with the size of this mpv, it seems comfortable 6 seater is quite possible if u dont include performance issue, its a people mover, not a rocket bus. afterall, since when mpv is going to be fuel economic? im estimating it’s fuel consumption should be around 8L/100km
October 14, 2008 @ 7:37 pm
Seriously UGLY
October 14, 2008 @ 8:17 pm
No sliding rear passenger door? But the overall design looks nice… sliding rear passenger door and this one will be in my shortlist..
October 14, 2008 @ 8:32 pm
Proton MPV Details
Proton’s new baby seems to be quite a technological achievement too for the company. According to one of my spies, this is the first Proton model which will use Super High Tensile Steel, supplied by Posco, Korea. Even Perodua has not used it yet, and Perodua’s MPV (due end of next year) will not use it either.
This new material is lighter and stronger than high tensile steel. This is good because currently the MPV it seems will be using a 1.6L Campro engine.
Proton has been shopping around for new engines, and we heard they even went to Nissan to check out what they can get.
But so far, the 1.6l Campro engine is confirmed for the time being. Of course if the 1.6L Campro turbo engine Proton is working on in UK comes out good, we might see that engine in the MPV.
Another highlight will be the plastic fenders, similar to the ones used by Nissan in the X-Trail (the model still sold here). Again, this will help to save weight.
Local blogs have published pictures of the MPV’s clay model. My source says that the MPV looks better than that, but having similarities with the Toyota Wish is possible as the chief designer drives one, and is very active in the local Wish club.
Nobody knows how the interior looks like yet, but when Proton first did their studies on MPV (back when they just launched the Waja), one of the benchmark vehicles used was the Opel Zafira/Chevrolet Nabira.
October 14, 2008 @ 8:35 pm
aiyoyo
why some of people are so degil ??
already said so so many times
avanza is a monocoque
unlike the innova which use ladder structure
some high end mpv like mazda 8 are also using ladder structure and selling at 200k , is that a problem ???
October 14, 2008 @ 8:48 pm
Proton seems to be moving in the right direction… =)
October 14, 2008 @ 9:35 pm
wahlaueh…
price tag will play important role to make P1 MPV success. If P1 still want to maximum profits with high price, i believe the sales may not able to sustain hot for long.
I personally expect ~70k or below will be reasonable as MPV have different tax structures. you can see Naza Citra 2.0 just 7xk plus… local assembly… value for money…
So, P1 when determine the price tag for MPV, please look for long term strategy rather short term to recover insvestment with high price tag.
October 14, 2008 @ 9:56 pm
this will never look like avanza, im sorry,
just look at wheel track in relation to its height,
tear off the mask, then you ll know, its look great.
October 14, 2008 @ 9:59 pm
funny how the rear look. somehow it rather look like kenari’s rear.
October 14, 2008 @ 10:07 pm
now who ain’t proud of proton’s achievement…this really made my day and smiled wide. Finally a true people mover!
October 14, 2008 @ 10:14 pm
naza citra 80 to 84k,
rondo 84 to 88k
avanza 70+
basically the price gap 10k or plus lesser, then entry level of a citra, will catch the public,
and handling wise, it wont be a 4×4 ride feel like avanza,
design, good, concept derived from APX lotus,
tell me what do you want?
October 14, 2008 @ 10:34 pm
If you guys know.. u can’t decide how it will look just by those pics alone..
‘cos they indeed know how to disguise the proportions
It is indeed big.
u know they cover the back door with some plank and number plate placed on the bumper where the final production isn’t.
That alone will make a huge impact on how we ’see’ the car.
October 14, 2008 @ 11:20 pm
I agree with majuperak. The proton MPV chassis is based on Chery’s mpv.
October 14, 2008 @ 11:41 pm
the design of A-pillar that flows to the fron fender n bonnet actually looks alot like the latest generation honda stream…looks tall , long….but not very wide….i prefer to see the front rather than rear since most mpv rear end have somewat similar design due to their vertical end
October 14, 2008 @ 11:55 pm
Hmm.. I can’t say much, but i’m pretty excited about this MPV.
Si-Fu, i got a few questions. Hope that you can answer them:
1) Does this MPV share the same platform as the Waja?
2) Since it’s using the Campro CPS engine, are the torque figures the same: 150Nm@4500rpm? Or Proton has tweaked them so that the torque arrives lower: E.g @3500rpm.
Thanks.
October 15, 2008 @ 12:08 am
oh shit. this could give the grand livina a run for it’s money.
but we’ll see.
October 15, 2008 @ 12:15 am
Si-fu.
Will there be a diesel powered version? Turbo with intercooler and a 5 speeder will surely get me excited.Low to mid range torque will be much welcomed. And yes, please tell them to put in standard regardless of model
1)ABS as standard
2) At least 2 front airbags as standard
3) Maybe optional stability program or braking assist for top of the range.
Many middle class families will be carting their whole families around. don’t want to hear accidents involving the whole family with 3 generations wiped out..
October 15, 2008 @ 12:29 am
Put in the safety features as standard, build it properly and price it just below the Avanza and I say Proton got a winner. I can’t imagine anyone in for a MPV will dismiss this. Afterall, most families want a reasonable sized and safe vehicle to transport their family members. And affordable too.Must also address the power and fuel consumption issues.
Most of the sub 100k MPVs in the market are underpowered and fuel guzzlers.
One up for
Proton the Toytoy car slayer.
October 15, 2008 @ 12:36 am
‘Proton the Toytoy car slayer.’
9166, haha, i like the sound of that.
Btw, Si-Fu, do you work in the powertrain department? Hope you can answer my previous questions. If everything’s confidential, then it’s ok.
October 15, 2008 @ 12:44 am
Yes, yes, for once I hoped that Proton can take on the big boys at Toytoy car.
These jap mpvs are starting to take the Malaysian motoring public for a ride.
Give them a kosong kosong peng vehicle and price it just above Proton, results: reap in max profits.
So for once, let Proton send them back to where they belong. to toytoy land..
October 15, 2008 @ 12:54 am
very very look like the chery eastar as I can see both of them from the side & rear view. Seem there is a rumour said that it might be based on eastar ?
October 15, 2008 @ 8:42 am
Hahahahahha….looks like everybody getting excited!
I will try to answer the question u guys posted as best as i can but my answers may be limited!
1) The platform is not based on waja but a new platform.
2) The torque output from the engine is roughly the same, but how, where n when the torque is sent to the wheels is different.
3) I cant discuss about the trim levels, but i wanna highlight something here, safety IS NOT equivalent to abs and air bags only. The main safety of a vehicle need to be evaluated from the structure of the vehicle itself. How it reacts to crash in various places, front impact, front pole impact, side impact and intrusion, rear impact, roof impact and so on. Then comes the matter of distributing the force of the impact, crumple zone, cabin integrity, and so on. In order to achieve this, the vehicle must first have A STRONG CHASIS and BODY. Then only comes ur secondary safety features such as ur airbags, abs, ebd, etc etc.. Whats the point of having all the safety features with the 3 letter word but the main chasis and body is not strong? For example, in a crash, lets say ur vehicle’s chasis is made from substandard material and is not up to par, but it has air bags for instance, and u crash with a frontal collision, what will happen is, the engine may intrude into the cabin or cocpit…u may say that the airbag will deploy and save u, do u think so? What will happen is, the engine will intrude into the cabin, thus moving ur dashboard towards u, when the airbay deploys, u will suffer from burns (airbag deploys by igniting a small amount of explosive in it, enough to give u burns on the face) and suffocate in the airbag. All this happens in the blink of an eye. So at times, airbags can even kill u, so make sure ur seat belt is always on. Thats why there is always active and passive safety systems! In order for watever safety features to work optimumly, it needs to be in a proper situation and condition first.
Cheers!
October 15, 2008 @ 8:48 am
then we can take down the proton logo & replace it with a mitsubishi logo.GREAT………..
October 15, 2008 @ 9:19 am
Love si-fu, then love proton!
October 15, 2008 @ 9:44 am
Its good to know that Proton has insider worker to keep some information (pre-launch or non secret informations) posted here to inform public about their future products. Advantage is “Build a Vehicle based on what people wants (public inputs) and price it right for the target market. (Must take into consideration of the average salary of those East Malaysia as well)”
Thanks to “The_King” for the spy shot photos…its look like a reasonable size MPV judging from the pictures (The 15″ rim also looks smaller after matched to the body of that MPV.)
October 15, 2008 @ 10:19 am
Hi Mr. Sifu has the car been crash tested yet? Does it come with SRS airbags?
ABS EBD?
October 15, 2008 @ 11:08 am
Salamz and Hi,
Too many question has been posted to Si-Fu (our proton counterpart). His risking his career leaking all these veil secrets to us. Many thanks. Haha. I guess he has done his job as a part of Proton’s “teaser” campaign. We will just have to be patience and wait for the launching day (I hope its very soon). Even a Proton basher like me can compromise. *grinning* Good luck Proton!
October 15, 2008 @ 11:09 am
I imagined it as big as Wish but not the case here, since it looked rather compact. 1.6l Campro should do just fine. If what misterbenjo say is right with the light body weigt than i’ll give this new MPV thumbs up..
October 15, 2008 @ 11:37 am
I am surprised….just 1 picture and many ppl could comment oredi.
Wait till the car is launched…..
October 15, 2008 @ 12:10 pm
Better, significantly than Toyota aVANza. Avanza-buyers please reconsider your next MPV.
Still, Toyota aVANza buyers will proud of their empeevee though American-European buyers hardly to believe that aVANza a empeevee.
October 15, 2008 @ 12:55 pm
Have they started taking booking yet?…. I love the look of its size… bigger than avanza.
October 15, 2008 @ 1:10 pm
Doesn’t look that bad and I think that it will be better than the perodua MPV and avanza. it will probably be cheaper than avanza too. so for all of you who are thinking of getting the avanza but don’t need it urgently, wait for proton MPV.
October 15, 2008 @ 1:16 pm
Looks to me that there is a boot release from the back, not a key hole like other proton cars. would be better if they put rear sliding doors.
October 15, 2008 @ 1:42 pm
si-fu said,
October 15, 2008 @ 8:42 am
2) The torque output from the engine is roughly the same, but how, where n when the torque is sent to the wheels is different.
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Mr. Si-fu, I am really curious on the “HOW” part. Torque is transmit to the wheel by a gearbox right? So the MPV must be using a different type of gearbox. Any chances it could be using a CVT type?
October 15, 2008 @ 2:42 pm
As usual for any Proton products, we comment based on what we see albeit very little and very early, and we make assumptions based on what we hear without even see and smell and touch and experience the actual thing.
Even a heavily masked and taped road test version also got bashed! This is a test vehicle for God sake! And nobody wanted to buy a test version of any vehicle. Wait larr until its official launch day then get all your butts out of your chair and go to the nearest Proton showrooms and go bang some doors, seats, dashboard, wheels or whatever barbarian like behaviors, like what we always do on all the Proton cars before (but we seems to behave very sweetly like a little baby when it comes to viewing a car of other makes.)
For me I will hold my strong appetite for a new Rondo before I see and taste this new Proton. Even if i have to wait for another 6 months or so. If the price is right I definitely go for this one and let scrap my Rondo plan.
.peace. !
October 15, 2008 @ 2:50 pm
Roti Naan said,
October 15, 2008 @ 11:37 am
I am surprised….just 1 picture and many ppl could comment oredi.
Wait till the car is launched…..
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i’m surprised also, by your comment. coz thats what you usually do as well. (commenting on just 1 picture only)
October 15, 2008 @ 2:54 pm
it looks worse than the avanza
October 15, 2008 @ 3:07 pm
^ it’s not even in the realm of competing with an avanza
October 15, 2008 @ 3:24 pm
Another funny van.same league with avanza,vannete.
October 15, 2008 @ 3:26 pm
off-topic>>
si-fu..
i like ur posts, very informative
October 15, 2008 @ 5:29 pm
quite nice.. smooth n clean look
definately will be a hit if the price is right..
clay model of proton mpv
side
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb317/quwaidirulhadiif/ProtonMPV2.jpg
front
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb317/quwaidirulhadiif/mpv_front.jpg
rear
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb317/quwaidirulhadiif/mpv_rear.jpg
October 15, 2008 @ 5:58 pm
Ho ho ho…proton camouflage it heavily and roadtest it. As expected, the bashers still keep their ‘praising’ effort on proton and never tired of doing so. Come on bashers, its just a test model, we don’t even know what the final product will look like. If you all keep pumping in bashing comments based on this raw & taped test model, that just show stupidity among yourselves. shame on you all! Stop giving out comments that reflect you are moron to the public since it is still a testing period for the mpv. just shut you bashin’ bstard!
October 15, 2008 @ 6:13 pm
I heard rumours that new gen2 will be using cvt… wonder if this mpv or sat neo using also..
October 15, 2008 @ 6:50 pm
chery’s chassis is using mitsu grandis’ la…even the engine is the old 4g64 s4m
October 15, 2008 @ 7:23 pm
#
ALPINA BMW said,
October 15, 2008 @ 2:54 pm
it looks worse than the avanza
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kei9 said,
October 15, 2008 @ 3:07 pm
^ it’s not even in the realm of competing with an avanza
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BlackJKX said,
October 15, 2008 @ 3:24 pm
Another funny van.same league with avanza,vannete.
…………….
a VANzaTO YOTA owners?
October 15, 2008 @ 7:41 pm
A very good try Proton !!! Keep it up…. Guyz, remember one thing, this is the first trial for proton to hav MPV’s in production…. So at current automotive world, its actually quite good… Hope the price tag not too high as of like the new perodua nautica… i would prefer toyota rush instead of nautica….
October 15, 2008 @ 8:36 pm
good job proton..Luckily I’ve seen this roadtest car on PLUS highway last saturday…Unfortunately, my camera can’t take the frontal part as it moves too fast!!
generally da front look like livina with wish for da size..
October 15, 2008 @ 9:44 pm
Gearbox 4AT and 5MT.
October 15, 2008 @ 11:04 pm
How about the size for this MPV?
More like Grand Livina, Innova, Naza Rondo, Naza Citra, Naza Ria, Nabira, Zafira, grandis, space wagon or………………………. avan za.
Give information…
tampal tampalpun nampak ok, but we don’t have front view shot to judge this MPV.
October 15, 2008 @ 11:41 pm
theking said,
October 15, 2008 @ 9:44 pm
Gearbox 4AT and 5MT.
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theking, the gearbox is sourced from Mitsubishi or Nissan?
October 16, 2008 @ 8:04 am
Majuperak -
You are uninformed even with so many postings on the Proton MPV. It is NOT a Chery base. Get it?
October 16, 2008 @ 8:09 am
SiFu -
Be careful – Proton can charge you under ISA (Insider Spy Act!)
Anyway the spy shots is a good pre launch advertising for Proton indirectly.
October 16, 2008 @ 8:22 am
Car-craze, i am carefull…but at times scared also! hahahahahaha…
My previous post ment missing di, haiyah!
I will try to answer watever i can k guys!
1) The trim level and equipment level will be as u guys expected. Hope u guys understand wat i mean.
2) It wont use a CVT gear box, and both the gearbox is frm moit-shui-boi-shi.
Cheers!
October 16, 2008 @ 9:14 am
Keep the lid on si-fu. Be fair to the guys and gals working on the project to iron out all the problems and improve the product come launching date. No need to leak any info here and there, this isn’t a R35 GTR in the making. It is a just humble MPV for Malaysians. I understand the excitement, but let’s keep it as a surprise to our fellow Malaysians.
October 16, 2008 @ 11:36 am
it’s not bad at all.. Congrat to proton..
October 16, 2008 @ 12:02 pm
chery eastar also use mitsu gearbox+engine, and this proton mpv also mitsuuu, and the look is very similar to chery, so the fishy thing that proton mpv platform based on eastar ??
October 16, 2008 @ 12:17 pm
car_craze said,
October 16, 2008 @ 8:09 am
SiFu -
Be careful – Proton can charge you under ISA (Insider Spy Act!)
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Agreed.
Just wait & see….
October 16, 2008 @ 1:05 pm
Si-fu: regarding safety feature, i totally agrees with u BUT the problem here is i think > 70% of malaysian (and even the sales man who is the one misleading us actually), says that air bag, ABS and EBD are the gods of car safety.
Your informations does makes me drools as i am intending to buy an MPV next year. With kids now, even my plan to buy the hybrid civic may goes down to the drain (larger space is needed for the stroller, cradle, baby formulas, Huggies diapers, toys and future little one).. haha….
October 16, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
shamel said,
October 15, 2008 @ 7:23 pm
a VANzaTO YOTA owners?
For your question, No.
Since this mpv is relatively larger than Avanza. Thus it isn’t oght to compete with Avanza.
But in terms of pricing wise, it might.
October 16, 2008 @ 1:26 pm
Haiyah! If ever proton got new design, new car..all bad complaints and trash come out! all malaysians like dat ke? Opps forgot laa, malaysia suke ‘CHEAP-CHEAP GOOD GOOD’..want to buy a car like BMW but pay a price of KANCIL..no wonder mods workshop can make money, add there add here..hahaha
Proton buat fast developement pon kata curik itu Cherry punye chassy. Want to complain also dunno how to differ monocoque chasy and ladder chasy, specs never comeout also too much rumours. Itu CRV baru pakai chassy Stream pon tada sapa tau, kasik duit keluar bank belijuga..itu INNOVA, FORTUNER, HARRIER pakai chassy HIULX pon kasi beli jugak..semua OK,cun! Proton kasi keluar, pakai chassy sama..semua komplen..CIVIC baru pakai chassy ACCORD EURO-S pon tada sapa tau,itu body roll pon tak betul..body chassy balance pontak 50:50 pon org kata baguih! janji HONDA maa..Opss lupa,sudah keluar duit banyak,takkan mau kondem…ini proton keluar duit sket bleh kondem pnye..
Wat ever laa Malaysians! Malaysia BOLEH KOMPLEN saja..hahahaha good ol guys!
October 16, 2008 @ 4:39 pm
MPV from proton. ahh…hmm……hahaha. no comment.
October 16, 2008 @ 6:26 pm
car_craze said,
October 16, 2008 @ 8:09 am
SiFu -
Be careful – Proton can charge you under ISA (Insider Spy Act!)
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How do Proton know SiFi real name??
October 16, 2008 @ 6:28 pm
Wrong Spelling-Is SiFu not SiFi
October 16, 2008 @ 8:38 pm
no LED rear combi lamp??….hummm..Is it possible to put light weight 17inch rim for this mpv? It will be make this car more gorgeous…hehe
Dear Ploton, your adik (P2) currently is mati mati ikan because serious marketing strategy by you. I even can predict what will happen to P2 after this. Their market is only come Myvi sales and they will die if Myvi can’t make sales.
The other info I got from my P2 counterpart but this may confidential. But I can’t keep it because we always laugh about it. P2 will come out a facelift for Viva and it is uglier than current Viva, It had a crommed garnish on top of the hood with shape like a dog nose, can u imagine it????Stupid design!!! Pity to P2, gud quality car with bad design..Sorry of topic and just my 2cent, no offence
October 16, 2008 @ 8:55 pm
why all these ugly mpvs?
October 16, 2008 @ 9:45 pm
x dpt nak komen sgt
tapered sane sini
dgn pic yg boleh nmpak ni
anyway nak bg cadangan sikit
gune aero wiper mcm new civic for front glass
and straight rear wiper mcm neo…
16 inches alloy wheels
harap mr si-fu dpt forward to proton
October 16, 2008 @ 10:26 pm
HafidzMoro,
That does remind me… of the human’s nature to take things for granted, eh?
The best things in life are free as they say, and we’ll never realise it until we lose it.
October 16, 2008 @ 11:29 pm
No more caldina, wish looks, volume matters. in this case then…
October 17, 2008 @ 12:13 am
HafidzMoro ?
its true that crv used stream chassis ,however the stream chassis is derive from honda civic ,and so do the last gent and no such car as honda accord euro s only euro r ,no s
innova and fotuner are using ladder structure and yes they shared the ladder and the front double wishbone ONLY the hilux are still using leaf spring at the back while the other two use 4 link suspension, and harrier using ladder structure ??? are you kidding me or what
Seem like you are the one who dunno how to differentiate between ladder and monocoque
harrier is using the camry chassis , do camry look like a ladder chassis car ???
October 17, 2008 @ 1:31 am
The size looks big. Better than avanza and citra i think, how about the price?
October 17, 2008 @ 2:24 am
look at link below.wish look alike huh..nice
http://www.thaiprotonclub.com/news_read.php?id=1851
October 17, 2008 @ 2:27 am
why they using neo’s steering wheel?tak sesuai..
October 17, 2008 @ 9:06 am
Wakeyme, sejak bila ko nampak steering neo lak? Boleh nampak ker kat gambar tuh? Ko mata laser ker?
October 17, 2008 @ 9:20 am
wah ….. OMG …. the design look so lame from back … tall and bulky
October 17, 2008 @ 9:35 am
Dia pakai teropong la Si-fu…
October 17, 2008 @ 11:04 am
aiyyo..kereta yg diuji pakai masking tape mmg nampak hodoh..even tgk kereta mercedes E-class yg nak “dilaunch” tahun dpn pun nampak hodoh bila dipakaikan masking tape..so kena tunggu “real model” baru leh nampak model sebenar.
October 17, 2008 @ 11:17 am
Wakeyme,
kau ni manusia ke mesin x-ray?
October 17, 2008 @ 11:48 am
loh kan aku dah bg link thaiprotonclub tu.aku nampak mcm steering neo.kalau salah maap la ye.btw sifu dashboard ada finishing kayu ke?
October 17, 2008 @ 11:57 am
Mana ada link ker thaiprotonclub? Tak nampak pun? Sal interior aku tak leh citer skarang, korang kena bersabar lah yer! Sowy!
Cheers!
October 17, 2008 @ 11:59 am
heard proton will throw cps 2.0 into this new mpv…don’t know true or not
October 17, 2008 @ 12:01 pm
si-fu…
is that true cps 2.0??or campro IAFM 2.0??
October 17, 2008 @ 12:11 pm
wakeyme,
yang gambar kat thaiprotonclub tu test mule pakai toyota wish kot, so bukan mpv yang sebenar.
October 17, 2008 @ 1:04 pm
nissan livina,1.6
105hp-5200
150hp-4400
proton 1.6 campro cps
130-6500
150-4500
BUT what really matters is at 500 1000 1500 2000 2500 3000,
October 17, 2008 @ 1:25 pm
Awak, CPS hp is 125hp not 130hp…but watever is it, its still higher then nissan’s engine!
Cheers!
October 17, 2008 @ 1:48 pm
sorry si-fu, ada lari skit,
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nissan livina,1.6
105hp-5200
150nm-4400
proton 1.6 campro cps
130-6500
150nm-4500
BUT what really matters is at 500 1000 1500 2000 2500 3000,!
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by the way i do hope the retune campro CPS as explain by si-fu, going to match up the torque band of other vvt 1.6.
si-fu is there any recalibration of its internal component ,angle and cam lobe as part to fork out potential torque apart from external tuned air and remap engine management,?
October 17, 2008 @ 2:15 pm
oyeke..salah paham.patut la nampak sbijik mcm wish.ehe
October 17, 2008 @ 2:40 pm
Sorry guys, i cant reveal in detail the work that has been done on the engine…once already launch, then i tell wat has been done okey!
Cheers!
October 17, 2008 @ 4:45 pm
Dah jumpa MPV ni on my way to KL pagi tadi. The car is quite good looking actually. A bit wider and longer than Livina but almost the same height……….
October 17, 2008 @ 4:48 pm
si-fu…ada x rupa mpv tu camni?
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa43/ambo620/ambo/mpvcombine2.jpg
October 17, 2008 @ 4:59 pm
Sifu
Hope MPV can carry 7 people clim genting easyly? so not forget to test ah..with 7 people clim genting.
October 17, 2008 @ 5:46 pm
Dun worry guys, the mpv already test naik genting with 7 adults….and the outcome…..:)….thats all i can say rite now!
Cheers!
October 17, 2008 @ 5:50 pm
waja2000, i dont think easily is the word they after…most likely, adequately while not overheating the engine. i believe they tested it be4.
unless they r using 1.8L n above, then i think “easily” is possible.
October 17, 2008 @ 7:10 pm
ambo620
nice!
October 17, 2008 @ 10:09 pm
the cps should not be compare to g.livina engine as the livina engine have nothing but a doch and full alluminium stucture and while the cps have variable valve lift and one thing for sure is that the mpv need torque more than horsepower and this is true for a reality world. even g.livina 1.6 engine produced a 15.3kgm while cps is putting 15.1kgm and the torque curve of cps is not as even as the 1.6 livina ,hope proton could do something for that but from what i heard is that the engine would maintain its 80% of torque from 2000 rpm onward
October 17, 2008 @ 11:57 pm
Si-Fu,
Thanks for answering all the questions. I know there is not much that you can reveal as most of the information is confidential. However…… I have 1 more tempting question to ask you which does not relate to this MPV (sorry for the Off Topic paul):
Is there currently a 1.3 CPS engine in development? Possibly for the Saga Hi-Line?
October 18, 2008 @ 1:35 am
mct,
cps isnt variable valve tech, it only have 2 profiles like vtec. vim provide another 2 type of intake length, so basically its only 3 steps system, not variable! saying livina’s isnt vvt tech engine isnt correct either…”The MR is a family of straight-4 all-aluminum automobile engines with variable valve timing co-developed by Renault and Nissan.” search online please -.-” get your fact right! stop living in stone age!
October 18, 2008 @ 9:34 am
fastcx, i think u should get yr facts right…mct is comparing the 1.6 g. livina engine, in which it is not the MR family, but HR…and it is without variable valve timing system..
“The basic NIssan Grand Livina is the 1.6 liter manual model powered by the HR16DE. This is not exactly the same HR16DE as the one in the Nissan Latio though, somehow Tan Chong has elected to equip the Grand Livina 1.6 with a variant of the HR16DE that does not have variable valve timing.”
quoted from:
http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/20/nissan-grand-livina-16-and-18-unveiled-in-malaysia/
perhaps u shouldn’t live too far in the future…
October 18, 2008 @ 9:36 am
Nizam80,
So far no 1.3 campro cps but new EMS is in progress with better features than current EMS700.
October 18, 2008 @ 9:47 am
ic ic. theking, thanks for the info.
October 18, 2008 @ 10:02 am
Does anyone know what are the bank loan interest rate for proton? it seems like the rate is very high recently…
hopefully they will not be so high for this MPV…
October 18, 2008 @ 11:59 am
http://paultan.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1119.0;attach=2463;image
Those are the photoshopped pics based on the shots.
Thats how it will look. No doubt.
October 18, 2008 @ 1:19 pm
infinity, thx for pointing out
October 18, 2008 @ 1:34 pm
so basically when proton still using vanilla engine, people will bash like vvt is the in stuff, when nissan use it, it seems most people dont talk much about it..
on the other hand, for mass production jap engine with variable valve timing are mostly with economic in mind and emission control, so more horse power through that is kind of out of question unless a better converter is developed to keep emission down while providing more power. like honda did to their newer gen engine in jazz/fit.
im not sure about cps’s emission even tho they sell it in europe with old campro’s carbon emission of around 155g, not bad for 1.6 but cps might increase or lower the emission, hopefully its the latter! cause its a nice engine, if they can improve the material used for making it will makes it even better!
and again, thx infinity for correcting my mistake b4 more rumor spreads
October 19, 2008 @ 1:52 am
fastcx?
livina hr16de are without any vvt and it make more torque than cps and arrive at a lower rev too
seem like you are the one who should utilize the internet more than i do .
October 19, 2008 @ 7:26 am
wahlaueh,…
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si-fu said,
October 17, 2008 @ 5:46 pm
Dun worry guys, the mpv already test naik genting with 7 adults….and the outcome…..:)….thats all i can say rite now!
Cheers!
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si-fu,
the tested MPV was manual or auto transmission? i think no one ask this yet…
October 19, 2008 @ 8:44 am
this mpv and unser… ermmm power leh cellenge ka encik sifu?
October 20, 2008 @ 8:51 am
~I have see this MPV followed by The new Neo at Genting on 18 Oct 2008, but i cant snap any pic while im on driving(drive safely). the MPV look a little bigger than Avanza then suprising the big giant running fast like Sedan. ~
October 20, 2008 @ 1:25 pm
dUrEx333 said,
October 20, 2008 @ 8:51 am
The MPV look a little bigger than Avanza then suprising the big giant running fast like Sedan.
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So, the rumours about the MPv will using a 1.6 CamPro cps with light turbo seem quite true… who know we will drive/own a great MPV with a reasonble price next year…
October 20, 2008 @ 2:55 pm
was it during climbing genting? or on plane road?
October 20, 2008 @ 8:40 pm
Si-fu. i know its a illogical question. when will again you guys testing the mpv and where? LOL
October 21, 2008 @ 10:55 pm
the turbo version is still under R&D, lets focus on CPS campro 1.6
January 29, 2009 @ 8:35 pm
it is quite nice. really. love the new steering design. the button layout on the steering wheel is more like BMW’s…
January 30, 2009 @ 10:15 am
Utusan mentioned the Price RM80K, emm.. I’m still doubt proton’s quality some more this is the 1st mpv
February 13, 2009 @ 12:03 am
alahai… macam cut of gerabak komuter, kalau cantikpun cat je… panel dalam pasti keras macam batu…(biasalah orang malaysia… kayu balak letak enjin pun beli)
February 26, 2009 @ 12:00 pm
Can adult sit comfortably at the 3rd row? most of the MPV with 7 seaters
have very little space for the 3rd row.. we need to crawl in most of the time..
March 17, 2009 @ 4:34 pm
oops!!…..cantik u! tapi sayang tak nampak sah dari depan lah….nampak gaya deman exora lah i nanti. Tapi yang pelik i lihat dari belakang nampak tinggi dan depan nampak terlalu rendah…..tapi memang cantiklah ….
April 22, 2009 @ 7:39 pm
the pyrite brown colour very beautiful.
April 22, 2009 @ 7:43 pm
exora are very………………………cool than other cars.one day this car famous in the world
April 22, 2009 @ 7:44 pm
memang cantik ko pegi tengok tak?
April 29, 2009 @ 4:32 pm
only one thing…. CPS produce 125hp at 6500rpm! yes it’s great for 1.6ltr engine. we all know this. what i’m concerned is…. our normal driving of mpv…..let’s say at 3000rpm +- shud be at 110-120km/h. So… if to get the125hp at 6500 rpm meaning our speed is about at 220-250km/h???? for driving MPV?? goshhh! if we don’t go for speed, we go for torque or pick-up…so…. anybody cud answer or already drive the exora….? any comments?