Comments on: Proton MPV spyshots, and its not a Toyota Wish-based test mule this time! http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:33:02 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: nai http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-234815 nai Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:32:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-234815 only one thing.... CPS produce 125hp at 6500rpm! yes it's great for 1.6ltr engine. we all know this. what i'm concerned is.... our normal driving of mpv.....let's say at 3000rpm +- shud be at 110-120km/h. So... if to get the125hp at 6500 rpm meaning our speed is about at 220-250km/h???? for driving MPV?? goshhh! if we don't go for speed, we go for torque or pick-up...so.... anybody cud answer or already drive the exora....? any comments? only one thing…. CPS produce 125hp at 6500rpm! yes it’s great for 1.6ltr engine. we all know this. what i’m concerned is…. our normal driving of mpv…..let’s say at 3000rpm +- shud be at 110-120km/h. So… if to get the125hp at 6500 rpm meaning our speed is about at 220-250km/h???? for driving MPV?? goshhh! if we don’t go for speed, we go for torque or pick-up…so…. anybody cud answer or already drive the exora….? any comments?

]]> By: zulaikha http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-232973 zulaikha Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:44:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-232973 memang cantik ko pegi tengok tak? memang cantik ko pegi tengok tak?

]]> By: zulaikha http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-232972 zulaikha Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:43:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-232972 exora are very...........................cool than other cars.one day this car famous in the world exora are very………………………cool than other cars.one day this car famous in the world

]]> By: zulaikha http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-232968 zulaikha Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:39:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-232968 the pyrite brown colour very beautiful. the pyrite brown colour very beautiful.

]]> By: lyn http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-221782 lyn Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:34:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-221782 oops!!.....cantik u! tapi sayang tak nampak sah dari depan lah....nampak gaya deman exora lah i nanti. Tapi yang pelik i lihat dari belakang nampak tinggi dan depan nampak terlalu rendah.....tapi memang cantiklah .... oops!!…..cantik u! tapi sayang tak nampak sah dari depan lah….nampak gaya deman exora lah i nanti. Tapi yang pelik i lihat dari belakang nampak tinggi dan depan nampak terlalu rendah…..tapi memang cantiklah ….

]]> By: chel http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-215476 chel Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:00:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-215476 Can adult sit comfortably at the 3rd row? most of the MPV with 7 seaters have very little space for the 3rd row.. we need to crawl in most of the time.. Can adult sit comfortably at the 3rd row? most of the MPV with 7 seaters
have very little space for the 3rd row.. we need to crawl in most of the time..

]]> By: pree http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-208646 pree Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:03:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-208646 alahai... macam cut of gerabak komuter, kalau cantikpun cat je... panel dalam pasti keras macam batu...(biasalah orang malaysia... kayu balak letak enjin pun beli) alahai… macam cut of gerabak komuter, kalau cantikpun cat je… panel dalam pasti keras macam batu…(biasalah orang malaysia… kayu balak letak enjin pun beli)

]]> By: unnamed http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-204966 unnamed Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:15:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-204966 Utusan mentioned the Price RM80K, emm.. I'm still doubt proton's quality some more this is the 1st mpv Utusan mentioned the Price RM80K, emm.. I’m still doubt proton’s quality some more this is the 1st mpv

]]> By: lanuncyber http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-204836 lanuncyber Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:35:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-204836 it is quite nice. really. love the new steering design. the button layout on the steering wheel is more like BMW's... it is quite nice. really. love the new steering design. the button layout on the steering wheel is more like BMW’s…

]]> By: FarinaRacer http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-184012 FarinaRacer Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:55:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-184012 the turbo version is still under R&D, lets focus on CPS campro 1.6 :) the turbo version is still under R&D, lets focus on CPS campro 1.6 :)

]]> By: nyte_skater http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183811 nyte_skater Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:40:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183811 Si-fu. i know its a illogical question. when will again you guys testing the mpv and where? LOL Si-fu. i know its a illogical question. when will again you guys testing the mpv and where? LOL

]]> By: Maddy-Kun http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183769 Maddy-Kun Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:55:02 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183769 was it during climbing genting? or on plane road? was it during climbing genting? or on plane road?

]]> By: aenz81 http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183764 aenz81 Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:25:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183764 dUrEx333 said, October 20, 2008 @ 8:51 am The MPV look a little bigger than Avanza then suprising the big giant running fast like Sedan. ---------------------------------------------------------------- So, the rumours about the MPv will using a 1.6 CamPro cps with light turbo seem quite true... who know we will drive/own a great MPV with a reasonble price next year... dUrEx333 said,
October 20, 2008 @ 8:51 am

The MPV look a little bigger than Avanza then suprising the big giant running fast like Sedan.
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So, the rumours about the MPv will using a 1.6 CamPro cps with light turbo seem quite true… who know we will drive/own a great MPV with a reasonble price next year…

]]> By: dUrEx333 http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183745 dUrEx333 Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:51:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183745 ~I have see this MPV followed by The new Neo at Genting on 18 Oct 2008, but i cant snap any pic while im on driving(drive safely). the MPV look a little bigger than Avanza then suprising the big giant running fast like Sedan. ~ ~I have see this MPV followed by The new Neo at Genting on 18 Oct 2008, but i cant snap any pic while im on driving(drive safely). the MPV look a little bigger than Avanza then suprising the big giant running fast like Sedan. ~

]]> By: Maddy-Kun http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183664 Maddy-Kun Sun, 19 Oct 2008 00:44:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183664 this mpv and unser... ermmm power leh cellenge ka encik sifu? this mpv and unser… ermmm power leh cellenge ka encik sifu?

]]> By: kody http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183656 kody Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:26:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183656 wahlaueh,... -------------------- si-fu said, October 17, 2008 @ 5:46 pm Dun worry guys, the mpv already test naik genting with 7 adults….and the outcome…..:)….thats all i can say rite now! Cheers! -------------------- si-fu, the tested MPV was manual or auto transmission? i think no one ask this yet... wahlaueh,…
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si-fu said,
October 17, 2008 @ 5:46 pm

Dun worry guys, the mpv already test naik genting with 7 adults….and the outcome…..:)….thats all i can say rite now!

Cheers!

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si-fu,
the tested MPV was manual or auto transmission? i think no one ask this yet…

]]> By: mct http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183636 mct Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:52:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183636 fastcx? livina hr16de are without any vvt and it make more torque than cps and arrive at a lower rev too seem like you are the one who should utilize the internet more than i do . fastcx?
livina hr16de are without any vvt and it make more torque than cps and arrive at a lower rev too
seem like you are the one who should utilize the internet more than i do .

]]> By: fastcx http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183541 fastcx Sat, 18 Oct 2008 05:34:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183541 so basically when proton still using vanilla engine, people will bash like vvt is the in stuff, when nissan use it, it seems most people dont talk much about it.. on the other hand, for mass production jap engine with variable valve timing are mostly with economic in mind and emission control, so more horse power through that is kind of out of question unless a better converter is developed to keep emission down while providing more power. like honda did to their newer gen engine in jazz/fit. im not sure about cps's emission even tho they sell it in europe with old campro's carbon emission of around 155g, not bad for 1.6 but cps might increase or lower the emission, hopefully its the latter! cause its a nice engine, if they can improve the material used for making it will makes it even better! and again, thx infinity for correcting my mistake b4 more rumor spreads :) so basically when proton still using vanilla engine, people will bash like vvt is the in stuff, when nissan use it, it seems most people dont talk much about it..

on the other hand, for mass production jap engine with variable valve timing are mostly with economic in mind and emission control, so more horse power through that is kind of out of question unless a better converter is developed to keep emission down while providing more power. like honda did to their newer gen engine in jazz/fit.

im not sure about cps’s emission even tho they sell it in europe with old campro’s carbon emission of around 155g, not bad for 1.6 but cps might increase or lower the emission, hopefully its the latter! cause its a nice engine, if they can improve the material used for making it will makes it even better!

and again, thx infinity for correcting my mistake b4 more rumor spreads :)

]]> By: fastcx http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183535 fastcx Sat, 18 Oct 2008 05:19:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183535 infinity, thx for pointing out :) infinity, thx for pointing out :)

]]> By: kei9 http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183522 kei9 Sat, 18 Oct 2008 03:59:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183522 http://paultan.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1119.0;attach=2463;image Those are the photoshopped pics based on the shots. Thats how it will look. No doubt. http://paultan.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1119.0;attach=2463;image

Those are the photoshopped pics based on the shots.

Thats how it will look. No doubt.

]]> By: darkwizard http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183505 darkwizard Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:02:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183505 Does anyone know what are the bank loan interest rate for proton? it seems like the rate is very high recently... hopefully they will not be so high for this MPV... Does anyone know what are the bank loan interest rate for proton? it seems like the rate is very high recently…

hopefully they will not be so high for this MPV…

]]> By: nizam80 http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183504 nizam80 Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:47:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183504 ic ic. theking, thanks for the info. ic ic. theking, thanks for the info.

]]> By: theking http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183502 theking Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:36:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183502 Nizam80, So far no 1.3 campro cps but new EMS is in progress with better features than current EMS700. Nizam80,

So far no 1.3 campro cps but new EMS is in progress with better features than current EMS700.

]]> By: infinity http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183500 infinity Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:34:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183500 fastcx, i think u should get yr facts right...mct is comparing the 1.6 g. livina engine, in which it is not the MR family, but HR...and it is without variable valve timing system.. "The basic NIssan Grand Livina is the 1.6 liter manual model powered by the HR16DE. This is not exactly the same HR16DE as the one in the Nissan Latio though, somehow Tan Chong has elected to equip the Grand Livina 1.6 with a variant of the HR16DE that does not have variable valve timing." quoted from: http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/20/nissan-grand-livina-16-and-18-unveiled-in-malaysia/ perhaps u shouldn't live too far in the future... fastcx, i think u should get yr facts right…mct is comparing the 1.6 g. livina engine, in which it is not the MR family, but HR…and it is without variable valve timing system..

“The basic NIssan Grand Livina is the 1.6 liter manual model powered by the HR16DE. This is not exactly the same HR16DE as the one in the Nissan Latio though, somehow Tan Chong has elected to equip the Grand Livina 1.6 with a variant of the HR16DE that does not have variable valve timing.”

quoted from:
http://paultan.org/archives/2007/12/20/nissan-grand-livina-16-and-18-unveiled-in-malaysia/

perhaps u shouldn’t live too far in the future…

]]> By: fastcx http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183481 fastcx Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:35:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183481 mct, cps isnt variable valve tech, it only have 2 profiles like vtec. vim provide another 2 type of intake length, so basically its only 3 steps system, not variable! saying livina's isnt vvt tech engine isnt correct either..."The MR is a family of straight-4 all-aluminum automobile engines with variable valve timing co-developed by Renault and Nissan." search online please -.-" get your fact right! stop living in stone age! mct,
cps isnt variable valve tech, it only have 2 profiles like vtec. vim provide another 2 type of intake length, so basically its only 3 steps system, not variable! saying livina’s isnt vvt tech engine isnt correct either…”The MR is a family of straight-4 all-aluminum automobile engines with variable valve timing co-developed by Renault and Nissan.” search online please -.-” get your fact right! stop living in stone age!

]]> By: nizam80 http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183472 nizam80 Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:57:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183472 Si-Fu, Thanks for answering all the questions. I know there is not much that you can reveal as most of the information is confidential. However...... I have 1 more tempting question to ask you which does not relate to this MPV (sorry for the Off Topic paul): Is there currently a 1.3 CPS engine in development? Possibly for the Saga Hi-Line? Si-Fu,

Thanks for answering all the questions. I know there is not much that you can reveal as most of the information is confidential. However…… I have 1 more tempting question to ask you which does not relate to this MPV (sorry for the Off Topic paul):
Is there currently a 1.3 CPS engine in development? Possibly for the Saga Hi-Line?

]]> By: mct http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183460 mct Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:09:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183460 the cps should not be compare to g.livina engine as the livina engine have nothing but a doch and full alluminium stucture and while the cps have variable valve lift and one thing for sure is that the mpv need torque more than horsepower and this is true for a reality world. even g.livina 1.6 engine produced a 15.3kgm while cps is putting 15.1kgm and the torque curve of cps is not as even as the 1.6 livina ,hope proton could do something for that but from what i heard is that the engine would maintain its 80% of torque from 2000 rpm onward the cps should not be compare to g.livina engine as the livina engine have nothing but a doch and full alluminium stucture and while the cps have variable valve lift and one thing for sure is that the mpv need torque more than horsepower and this is true for a reality world. even g.livina 1.6 engine produced a 15.3kgm while cps is putting 15.1kgm and the torque curve of cps is not as even as the 1.6 livina ,hope proton could do something for that but from what i heard is that the engine would maintain its 80% of torque from 2000 rpm onward

]]> By: hotwheeler http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183426 hotwheeler Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:10:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183426 ambo620 nice! ambo620

nice!

]]> By: fastcx http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183415 fastcx Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:50:13 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183415 waja2000, i dont think easily is the word they after...most likely, adequately while not overheating the engine. i believe they tested it be4. unless they r using 1.8L n above, then i think "easily" is possible. waja2000, i dont think easily is the word they after…most likely, adequately while not overheating the engine. i believe they tested it be4.

unless they r using 1.8L n above, then i think “easily” is possible.

]]> By: si-fu http://paultan.org/2008/10/14/proton-mpv-spyshots/#comment-183413 si-fu Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:46:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8715#comment-183413 Dun worry guys, the mpv already test naik genting with 7 adults....and the outcome.....:)....thats all i can say rite now! Cheers! Dun worry guys, the mpv already test naik genting with 7 adults….and the outcome…..:)….thats all i can say rite now!

Cheers!

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