Comments on: Lexus previews “F-Sport” performance kit with Lexus IS 250 Sports Concept http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:18:04 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: nuajon http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-186943 nuajon Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:17:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-186943 look like persona design from side... look like persona design from side…

]]> By: generix http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-184557 generix Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:13:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-184557 in my opinion... i would prefer the is250 and a4 for myself due to my personal taste. the merc c class and bmw 3 series are too common on malaysian road. just love sumthing that is stand out of the crowd :) in my opinion…

i would prefer the is250 and a4 for myself due to my personal taste.
the merc c class and bmw 3 series are too common on malaysian road.

just love sumthing that is stand out of the crowd :)

]]> By: ALPINA BMW http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183805 ALPINA BMW Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:15:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183805 bmw = everybody's dreamcar(except clarkyson of course) bmw = everybody’s dreamcar(except clarkyson of course)

]]> By: Altezzar http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183424 Altezzar Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:48:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183424 One more point BMW fanboys will always make excuses saying that BMW is unreliable cos the owner dont take care........ if that is the case you should see Toyota breaking down everywhere cos Toyota owner dont really maintain their car either !!!!!!. Toyota is known for reliability so people dont really maintain them. End of the day BMW flaw is reliability and durability is questionable. I not saying lexus is the best car in the world and it has some flaws too... it is just that BMW fan boys are very ignorant about other brand and only think BMW is the best and choose to ignore it flaws. They talk without facts and other brand are not good as a BMW and they will never give credit where due.... narrow minded fools...... I will see you at side of the road with your BMW with hazard signal.... One more point BMW fanboys will always make excuses saying that BMW is unreliable cos the owner dont take care…….. if that is the case you should see Toyota breaking down everywhere cos Toyota owner dont really maintain their car either !!!!!!.
Toyota is known for reliability so people dont really maintain them.

End of the day BMW flaw is reliability and durability is questionable.
I not saying lexus is the best car in the world and it has some flaws too…
it is just that BMW fan boys are very ignorant about other brand and only think BMW is the best and choose to ignore it flaws. They talk without facts and other brand are not good as a BMW and they will never give credit where due…. narrow minded fools…… I will see you at side of the road with your BMW with hazard signal….

]]> By: Altezzar http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183423 Altezzar Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:32:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183423 BMW = innovation and cutting edge technology. Yes I agree but what is the point when the technology is not properly tested. BMW is famous for electrical problem. They know it will fail in the next 2 years but for the sake of calling themselves as innovator they will implement blindly. End of the day technology must be implemented with certain degree of reliability. So far BMW has not lived up to the hype. Like I said before BMW is only good as the warranty. Once it is over welcome to the nigthmare......... UDM Unreliable Disaster Machine should be the motto...... BMW = innovation and cutting edge technology. Yes I agree but what is the point when the technology is not properly tested. BMW is famous for electrical problem. They know it will fail in the next 2 years but for the sake of calling themselves as innovator they will implement blindly.

End of the day technology must be implemented with certain degree of reliability.

So far BMW has not lived up to the hype. Like I said before BMW is only good as the warranty. Once it is over welcome to the nigthmare……… UDM
Unreliable Disaster Machine should be the motto……

]]> By: glorifiedmechanic http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183377 glorifiedmechanic Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:42:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183377 why does everybody in here compare everything with either BMW or Proton??? Can't think of any other benchmark??? why does everybody in here compare everything with either BMW or Proton??? Can’t think of any other benchmark???

]]> By: layman http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183368 layman Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:55:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183368 If I have the money, my preference will be 3 series> c-class> a4 > IS. If I have the money, my preference will be 3 series> c-class> a4 > IS.

]]> By: mct http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183316 mct Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:07:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183316 yes , bmw are innovative in engine technology but toyota have its own success too .you see the vvtl-i engine feature no TB and its world first and the bmw only does this 5 year later which is 2003 when it launch valvetronic ,and surprisingly got many journalist wrote that that engine as the world first no TB engine ,but it is not true at all .Back in 2007 ,toyota and nissan launch their continuous valve lift and vvt .call valvematic and vvel .both technology are actually more advance than bmw valvetronic as it does not continuous doing it (valve lift or smth like that ) but the engine which equip with valvetronic do not need timing belf or chain ,the innovation technology havent being done by any other car maker yet . yes , bmw are innovative in engine technology but toyota have its own success too .you see the vvtl-i engine feature no TB and its world first and the bmw only does this 5 year later which is 2003 when it launch valvetronic ,and surprisingly got many journalist wrote that that engine as the world first no TB engine ,but it is not true at all .Back in 2007 ,toyota and nissan launch their continuous valve lift and vvt .call valvematic and vvel .both technology are actually more advance than bmw valvetronic as it does not continuous doing it (valve lift or smth like that )
but the engine which equip with valvetronic do not need timing belf or chain
,the innovation technology havent being done by any other car maker yet .

]]> By: ALPINA BMW http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183296 ALPINA BMW Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:41:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183296 i prefer the toyota mark x i prefer the toyota mark x

]]> By: BanyakMasukWorkshop http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183266 BanyakMasukWorkshop Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:16:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183266 i agree with torque.. not to confuse lexus with toyota. likewise, toyota being world no.1 has nothing to do with lexus as well. they operate in a different environment. technology wise, there is a definite difference between the 2 brands philosophy. and i'm not putting lexus down by saying this, but lexus is more an implementer whereas bmw is more an innovator when it comes to technology. Its just the way the 2 companies operate differently. lexus is trying to provide the ultimate customer experience (without reinventing the wheel), whereas bmw has always pushed the boundaries with innovation and cutting edge technology. no wrong or right, just that each has their own ways. lexus has also decided not to fight head to head with bmw(they will probably no succeed), and has carved out their own market. i agree with torque.. not to confuse lexus with toyota. likewise, toyota being world no.1 has nothing to do with lexus as well. they operate in a different environment.

technology wise, there is a definite difference between the 2 brands philosophy. and i’m not putting lexus down by saying this, but lexus is more an implementer whereas bmw is more an innovator when it comes to technology. Its just the way the 2 companies operate differently.

lexus is trying to provide the ultimate customer experience (without reinventing the wheel), whereas bmw has always pushed the boundaries with innovation and cutting edge technology. no wrong or right, just that each has their own ways. lexus has also decided not to fight head to head with bmw(they will probably no succeed), and has carved out their own market.

]]> By: torque http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183261 torque Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:47:32 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183261 bmpower said, October 15, 2008 @ 5:07 pm A BMW wannabe. but all T technologies outdated far away from BMW _____________________________________________________________________ Sorry la bro, I beg to differ! We are talking about Lexus here not a Toyota. Toyota maybe the parent company of Lexus but both are totally different company which cater a very different markets. If you tried to implement that Toyota tech is outdated from BMW, maybe you right but it sure hell ain't Lexus! If the Mercedes S500 car could actually drive the car by itself on the highway, Lexus too have their LS 460L which could actually parked the car itself, brake itself, keeping the whole car in lane during highway cruising, radar control for the car to drive itself, driver scanner and a whole bunch more! As far as I can see, each of them have their own pros and cons. Cheers! bmpower said,
October 15, 2008 @ 5:07 pm

A BMW wannabe.
but all T technologies outdated far away from BMW
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Sorry la bro, I beg to differ! We are talking about Lexus here not a Toyota. Toyota maybe the parent company of Lexus but both are totally different company which cater a very different markets. If you tried to implement that Toyota tech is outdated from BMW, maybe you right but it sure hell ain’t Lexus! If the Mercedes S500 car could actually drive the car by itself on the highway, Lexus too have their LS 460L which could actually parked the car itself, brake itself, keeping the whole car in lane during highway cruising, radar control for the car to drive itself, driver scanner and a whole bunch more! As far as I can see, each of them have their own pros and cons. Cheers!

]]> By: BanyakMasukWorkshop http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183238 BanyakMasukWorkshop Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:47:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183238 Altezzar said, October 15, 2008 @ 11:34 pm here we go again BMW fan boys feel threaten again……… Next time when it rains you will see a BMW side of the road……. UDM Unreliable Diasaster Machine….. Still living in denial…….I see…… ----------------------------------------- bmw fanboys feeling threatened, or lexus fans feeling threatened? i personally dont see any reason for anyone to be threatened, the 3 series and the is250 are totally different. one is the market leader, the other one is trying to emulate the market leader. i also feel the is250 is a significantly different car as compared to the e90 and seems to attract a totally different type of buyer. if you've driven both cars before, you will know what i'm talking about. Altezzar said,

October 15, 2008 @ 11:34 pm

here we go again BMW fan boys feel threaten again………

Next time when it rains you will see a BMW side of the road……. UDM

Unreliable Diasaster Machine….. Still living in denial…….I see……
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bmw fanboys feeling threatened, or lexus fans feeling threatened?

i personally dont see any reason for anyone to be threatened, the 3 series and the is250 are totally different. one is the market leader, the other one is trying to emulate the market leader. i also feel the is250 is a significantly different car as compared to the e90 and seems to attract a totally different type of buyer. if you’ve driven both cars before, you will know what i’m talking about.

]]> By: ignas http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183211 ignas Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:49:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183211 every car of every made also got ppl debate, very informative :) every car of every made also got ppl debate, very informative :)

]]> By: clover leaf http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183209 clover leaf Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:30:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183209 the Lexus IS 250 has the BMW 3 Series in its sights, but it still puts comfort above performance. Not as quick or nimble as some of the competition. cramped backseat. the Lexus IS 250 has the BMW 3 Series in its sights, but it still puts comfort above performance. Not as quick or nimble as some of the competition.
cramped backseat.

]]> By: csv http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183208 csv Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:27:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183208 i always liked how the car looks. but i'll still go for the normal one, its already powerful and sporty enough. i always liked how the car looks.

but i’ll still go for the normal one, its already powerful and sporty enough.

]]> By: Altezzar http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183204 Altezzar Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:34:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183204 here we go again BMW fan boys feel threaten again......... Next time when it rains you will see a BMW side of the road....... UDM Unreliable Diasaster Machine..... Still living in denial.......I see...... here we go again BMW fan boys feel threaten again………

Next time when it rains you will see a BMW side of the road……. UDM

Unreliable Diasaster Machine….. Still living in denial…….I see……

]]> By: Kevin Lee http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183199 Kevin Lee Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:15:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183199 the twin exhaust is better looking than the double decker exhaust found in the is-f, overall they got the back right the twin exhaust is better looking than the double decker exhaust found in the is-f, overall they got the back right

]]> By: IsaacVky http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183187 IsaacVky Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:00:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183187 theanswer said, October 15, 2008 @ 7:16 pm Biggest by selling volume, 2nd by total value of the company, VAG tops here though. It's not hard to see why Toyota sells so much with their huge collection of 1st world cars like Lexus until the 3rd world cars like Vios, Avanza, Innova and such and so on. Oh can you imagine the stacked exhaust tip on IS-F is actually not connected to the exhaust, only cosmetic purpose. Goddamn it's a Lexus, Pursuit for Perfection? theanswer said,

October 15, 2008 @ 7:16 pm

Biggest by selling volume, 2nd by total value of the company, VAG tops here though. It’s not hard to see why Toyota sells so much with their huge collection of 1st world cars like Lexus until the 3rd world cars like Vios, Avanza, Innova and such and so on.

Oh can you imagine the stacked exhaust tip on IS-F is actually not connected to the exhaust, only cosmetic purpose. Goddamn it’s a Lexus, Pursuit for Perfection?

]]> By: pepper http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183186 pepper Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:44:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183186 saw this car in person at aussie motorshow.. Looks fantastic.. there is another version too.. with cooler exhaust desgin.. anyway good job lexus ! saw this car in person at aussie motorshow.. Looks fantastic.. there is another version too.. with cooler exhaust desgin.. anyway good job lexus !

]]> By: drgn86 http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183170 drgn86 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:46:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183170 bmw 3 series sedan looks bloody more ugly... bmw 3 series sedan looks bloody more ugly…

]]> By: Xx- Ferrari -xX http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183169 Xx- Ferrari -xX Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:44:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183169 overall quite sporty.... but the rim's doesnt suit the car.... they should revise the rim... overall quite sporty…. but the rim’s doesnt suit the car….
they should revise the rim…

]]> By: theanswer http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183162 theanswer Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:16:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183162 outdated or up to date..still toyota is the world's bigget car maker. nuff sed. outdated or up to date..still toyota is the world’s bigget car maker. nuff sed.

]]> By: bmpower http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183151 bmpower Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:07:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183151 A BMW wannabe. but all T technologies outdated far away from BMW A BMW wannabe.
but all T technologies outdated far away from BMW

]]> By: bunhua12 http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183150 bunhua12 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:56:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183150 emm...side view a bit like Proton Persona emm…side view a bit like Proton Persona

]]> By: torque http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183146 torque Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:08:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183146 This car is damn cool! Sigh! :-( Looks like all the talented people (designer/cars lover) of Toyota have been shifted to Lexus and all that left in Toyota are a bunch of cut throat and blood sucking leeches of people (marketing/lawyers)....theee hee hee....:-) This car is damn cool! Sigh! :-( Looks like all the talented people (designer/cars lover) of Toyota have been shifted to Lexus and all that left in Toyota are a bunch of cut throat and blood sucking leeches of people (marketing/lawyers)….theee hee hee….:-)

]]> By: ATV http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183137 ATV Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:20:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183137 :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D :D :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

]]> By: ATV http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183135 ATV Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:18:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183135 It look from side and back very good. But from from it is look like a typical car. It look from side and back very good. But from from it is look like a typical car.

]]> By: ALPINA BMW http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183081 ALPINA BMW Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:53:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183081 ONE HELL of a ugly car ONE HELL of a ugly car

]]> By: ignas http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183078 ignas Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:44:35 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183078 well done toyota! i mean lexus :D well done toyota! i mean lexus :D

]]> By: waja_fr3ak http://paultan.org/2008/10/15/lexus-previews-f-sport-kit-with-is250-sports-concept/#comment-183076 waja_fr3ak Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:31:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=8741#comment-183076 kewl...nice job lexus !!! kewl…nice job lexus !!!

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