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	<title>Comments on: SPYSHOT: Proton MPV next to a Grand Livina</title>
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		<title>By: John Tsien Fah Loi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-263600</link>
		<dc:creator>John Tsien Fah Loi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys all out there! You gonna believe on Proton Vehicles again? This beautiful machine will fascinate you but after three or six months usage, it will show its old ugly history, believe me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys all out there! You gonna believe on Proton Vehicles again? This beautiful machine will fascinate you but after three or six months usage, it will show its old ugly history, believe me. </p>
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		<title>By: Elta Monogga</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-229560</link>
		<dc:creator>Elta Monogga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;185721&quot;]this baby is definitely bigger and taller then livina, citra,wish...comfirm that...guys just wait...my opinion this gonna be one more greatest hit in proton history....[/quote] 
 
hah? ONE MORE greatest hit? How come i never know Proton ever created something hit? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&quot;185721&quot;]this baby is definitely bigger and taller then livina, citra,wish&#8230;comfirm that&#8230;guys just wait&#8230;my opinion this gonna be one more greatest hit in proton history&#8230;.[/quote]</p>
<p>hah? ONE MORE greatest hit? How come i never know Proton ever created something hit? </p>
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		<title>By: YY</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-228278</link>
		<dc:creator>YY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Size bigger doesn&#039;t mean quality is better. Let&#039;s wait and see.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Size bigger doesn&#039;t mean quality is better. Let&#039;s wait and see&#8230;. </p>
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		<title>By: axls</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-223914</link>
		<dc:creator>axls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jo labu ngko tau tak.berapa arga nasi goreng kat singapura tuh...apa yg ko beli kat sini adalah sama dgn malaysia beza nya just dolar...dolar dolar...sama jer....i give u example 1 tae ais=rm1.00 n nasi goreng ayam rm4.00... total.=rm5.00...kat singapore singdolar 5.00 juga...bukanya 2.50sd...hu hu hu... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jo labu ngko tau tak.berapa arga nasi goreng kat singapura tuh&#8230;apa yg ko beli kat sini adalah sama dgn malaysia beza nya just dolar&#8230;dolar dolar&#8230;sama jer&#8230;.i give u example 1 tae ais=rm1.00 n nasi goreng ayam rm4.00&#8230; total.=rm5.00&#8230;kat singapore singdolar 5.00 juga&#8230;bukanya 2.50sd&#8230;hu hu hu&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: joe labu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-221008</link>
		<dc:creator>joe labu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kesian mr. bernal... 
kan dah cabut...tu lah...ni pasal korang sume lah...yang dia nak bagi tau,kenapa harga keta kat malaysia ni mahal sangat...tapi korang semua hampeh!! kata dia ni gila lah...pro pkr lah...aku pon pelik ngan perangai korang ni...nak kata bebal tapi celik IT... 
cuba2lah korang survey harga vios/nautica/rush/innova/livina dll. kat indon tu...compare ngan harga semua kereta tu kat sini...nanti baru korang tau maksud mr. bernal tu... 
ni tidak...tau nak mengamuk jer...kita ni kat malaysia bukan kat s&#039;pore yang gaji kerani jer sampai 8ribu... 
baru pakai vios dah lagak macam pakai celica...tak tau yang vios kat indon dia orang pakai buat teksi jer...mana tak nyer...kalau toyota rush kat sana rega baru rp100juta(rp10.000=rm3.10) kalau vios lagi lah murah...takpe lah labu...biar lah korang pakai proton cabuk tu...kalau nak ranggi sikit tampal lah emblem mitsubishi kat depan/belakang keta korang tu...kalau tampal kat wira kira ok gak...ni ader plak aku nampak tampal kat gen2/waja siap letak emblem evo plak tu...hihihi evo12 kot... 
anyway...proton exora memang mengancam...rase nak jer aku trade in wish yang bini aku pakai tu ngan exora ni...ye lar kan tengah gawat ni...hehe </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kesian mr. bernal&#8230;</p>
<p>kan dah cabut&#8230;tu lah&#8230;ni pasal korang sume lah&#8230;yang dia nak bagi tau,kenapa harga keta kat malaysia ni mahal sangat&#8230;tapi korang semua hampeh!! kata dia ni gila lah&#8230;pro pkr lah&#8230;aku pon pelik ngan perangai korang ni&#8230;nak kata bebal tapi celik IT&#8230;</p>
<p>cuba2lah korang survey harga vios/nautica/rush/innova/livina dll. kat indon tu&#8230;compare ngan harga semua kereta tu kat sini&#8230;nanti baru korang tau maksud mr. bernal tu&#8230;</p>
<p>ni tidak&#8230;tau nak mengamuk jer&#8230;kita ni kat malaysia bukan kat s&#039;pore yang gaji kerani jer sampai 8ribu&#8230;</p>
<p>baru pakai vios dah lagak macam pakai celica&#8230;tak tau yang vios kat indon dia orang pakai buat teksi jer&#8230;mana tak nyer&#8230;kalau toyota rush kat sana rega baru rp100juta(rp10.000=rm3.10) kalau vios lagi lah murah&#8230;takpe lah labu&#8230;biar lah korang pakai proton cabuk tu&#8230;kalau nak ranggi sikit tampal lah emblem mitsubishi kat depan/belakang keta korang tu&#8230;kalau tampal kat wira kira ok gak&#8230;ni ader plak aku nampak tampal kat gen2/waja siap letak emblem evo plak tu&#8230;hihihi evo12 kot&#8230;</p>
<p>anyway&#8230;proton exora memang mengancam&#8230;rase nak jer aku trade in wish yang bini aku pakai tu ngan exora ni&#8230;ye lar kan tengah gawat ni&#8230;hehe </p>
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		<title>By: rubapoison kiss</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-215602</link>
		<dc:creator>rubapoison kiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow it&#039;s nice than the livina and it has more larger space . proton done a great job . keep it on proton </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow it&#039;s nice than the livina and it has more larger space . proton done a great job . keep it on proton </p>
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		<title>By: ng</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-215594</link>
		<dc:creator>ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the head look small and the body look big. 
Overall comment about the size ok lah......... 
 
Design it seem like a bit funny and overall ok lah....... 
 
interior look not so beauty.Look very comment. 
 
Any way, any how, Proton is malaysia manufacture. What i can say is  
PROTON STAFF, PLEASE DO YOUR WORK PROPERLY.All this years you 
people gave very bad impression because of your poor quality.So, 
friend, please don&#039;t be proud to be a PROTON STAFF IF YOU CANNOT 
PRODUCE GOOD QUALITY. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the head look small and the body look big.</p>
<p>Overall comment about the size ok lah&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Design it seem like a bit funny and overall ok lah&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>interior look not so beauty.Look very comment.</p>
<p>Any way, any how, Proton is malaysia manufacture. What i can say is </p>
<p>PROTON STAFF, PLEASE DO YOUR WORK PROPERLY.All this years you</p>
<p>people gave very bad impression because of your poor quality.So,</p>
<p>friend, please don&#039;t be proud to be a PROTON STAFF IF YOU CANNOT</p>
<p>PRODUCE GOOD QUALITY. </p>
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		<title>By: kumar</title>
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		<dc:creator>kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The model it ok but the price is quit expensive cause this car are malaysian make.The car price is 80k.......local made but Nissan Grand Livina Japan made price almost same.... see the diff........ </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The model it ok but the price is quit expensive cause this car are malaysian make.The car price is 80k&#8230;&#8230;.local made but Nissan Grand Livina Japan made price almost same&#8230;. see the diff&#8230;&#8230;.. </p>
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		<title>By: YK Nalsa</title>
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		<dc:creator>YK Nalsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Justin, 
 
Sorry about my english is bad. I am a Chef here.....Chef only responsible for cooking. Anyway, i still able to communicate with british people. However, I will try improve it. Thanks. I am not a car engineer or expert. but I know which car is good which is bad. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Justin,</p>
<p>Sorry about my english is bad. I am a Chef here&#8230;..Chef only responsible for cooking. Anyway, i still able to communicate with british people. However, I will try improve it. Thanks. I am not a car engineer or expert. but I know which car is good which is bad. </p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-215210</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;215166&quot;]Hi all,,,,I was staying in UK now. Just want to tell you all a true story happened in UK...proton was export our Gen 2, Savy &amp; Satia Neo to UK. People here was give a lot of nagative comments regarding the car&#039;s Performance, Engine noise, refinement &amp; safety of the car are too bad...I was too surprisingly to read all the comment on the Car Magazine. Anyway, we got no choice...the only cheaper cars that we effort to buy is either Proton or Perodua. BUT!!! the problem is the selling price in Malaysia are more expensive than UK. 
 
Product made in Malaysia suppose need to be cheaper if we buy it locally right?? Finally, what I can said is &quot; Buying Car in Malaysia are very expensive&quot; compare in UK. 
 
Anyway, I was own a Honda Civic (I-VTEC new model) in UK just only RM 58K....I plan to send my car back to malaysia...huh...still worry about the Custom will tax me again 300%.....huh...WHY!!!! If they tax me then, no choice...I got to sell the car...then take the money to buy proton MPV car.  Yeah!!!!!  Malaysia Boleh!!!![/quote] 
 
Yes....I have to admit....buying cars in Malaysia indeed is much2 more expensive....the price is exorbitant..... 
 
But I was extremely shocked when I read ur comment.....Frankly speaking....I couldn&#039;t embrace the fact that the comment was written with full of grammatical errors and doesn&#039;t reflect a person who is staying in the UK....The command of English is extremely BAD!Please improve....I&#039;m not an English expert but It&#039;s a shame, really...... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&quot;215166&quot;]Hi all,,,,I was staying in UK now. Just want to tell you all a true story happened in UK&#8230;proton was export our Gen 2, Savy &amp; Satia Neo to UK. People here was give a lot of nagative comments regarding the car&#039;s Performance, Engine noise, refinement &amp; safety of the car are too bad&#8230;I was too surprisingly to read all the comment on the Car Magazine. Anyway, we got no choice&#8230;the only cheaper cars that we effort to buy is either Proton or Perodua. BUT!!! the problem is the selling price in Malaysia are more expensive than UK.</p>
<p>Product made in Malaysia suppose need to be cheaper if we buy it locally right?? Finally, what I can said is &quot; Buying Car in Malaysia are very expensive&quot; compare in UK.</p>
<p>Anyway, I was own a Honda Civic (I-VTEC new model) in UK just only RM 58K&#8230;.I plan to send my car back to malaysia&#8230;huh&#8230;still worry about the Custom will tax me again 300%&#8230;..huh&#8230;WHY!!!! If they tax me then, no choice&#8230;I got to sell the car&#8230;then take the money to buy proton MPV car.  Yeah!!!!!  Malaysia Boleh!!!![/quote]</p>
<p>Yes&#8230;.I have to admit&#8230;.buying cars in Malaysia indeed is much2 more expensive&#8230;.the price is exorbitant&#8230;..</p>
<p>But I was extremely shocked when I read ur comment&#8230;..Frankly speaking&#8230;.I couldn&#039;t embrace the fact that the comment was written with full of grammatical errors and doesn&#039;t reflect a person who is staying in the UK&#8230;.The command of English is extremely BAD!Please improve&#8230;.I&#039;m not an English expert but It&#039;s a shame, really&#8230;&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: YK Nalsa</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-215166</link>
		<dc:creator>YK Nalsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,,,,I was staying in UK now. Just want to tell you all a true story happened in UK...proton was export our Gen 2, Savy &amp; Satia Neo to UK. People here was give a lot of nagative comments regarding the car&#039;s Performance, Engine noise, refinement &amp; safety of the car are too bad...I was too surprisingly to read all the comment on the Car Magazine. Anyway, we got no choice...the only cheaper cars that we effort to buy is either Proton or Perodua. BUT!!! the problem is the selling price in Malaysia are more expensive than UK.  
 
Product made in Malaysia suppose need to be cheaper if we buy it locally right?? Finally, what I can said is &quot; Buying Car in Malaysia are very expensive&quot; compare in UK.  
 
Anyway, I was own a Honda Civic (I-VTEC new model) in UK just only RM 58K....I plan to send my car back to malaysia...huh...still worry about the Custom will tax me again 300%.....huh...WHY!!!! If they tax me then, no choice...I got to sell the car...then take the money to buy proton MPV car.  Yeah!!!!!  Malaysia Boleh!!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,,,,I was staying in UK now. Just want to tell you all a true story happened in UK&#8230;proton was export our Gen 2, Savy &amp; Satia Neo to UK. People here was give a lot of nagative comments regarding the car&#039;s Performance, Engine noise, refinement &amp; safety of the car are too bad&#8230;I was too surprisingly to read all the comment on the Car Magazine. Anyway, we got no choice&#8230;the only cheaper cars that we effort to buy is either Proton or Perodua. BUT!!! the problem is the selling price in Malaysia are more expensive than UK. </p>
<p>Product made in Malaysia suppose need to be cheaper if we buy it locally right?? Finally, what I can said is &quot; Buying Car in Malaysia are very expensive&quot; compare in UK. </p>
<p>Anyway, I was own a Honda Civic (I-VTEC new model) in UK just only RM 58K&#8230;.I plan to send my car back to malaysia&#8230;huh&#8230;still worry about the Custom will tax me again 300%&#8230;..huh&#8230;WHY!!!! If they tax me then, no choice&#8230;I got to sell the car&#8230;then take the money to buy proton MPV car.  Yeah!!!!!  Malaysia Boleh!!!! </p>
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		<title>By: ALPINA Bukard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-187255</link>
		<dc:creator>ALPINA Bukard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 04:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yucks, looks like rihanna(i think rihanna is ugly)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yucks, looks like rihanna(i think rihanna is ugly)</p>
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		<title>By: cars-addict</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-187104</link>
		<dc:creator>cars-addict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 08:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow!!i like this mpv...so big and so stylish!!!this is what i want from proton...any front and interior spyshots???

support proton 100%!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow!!i like this mpv&#8230;so big and so stylish!!!this is what i want from proton&#8230;any front and interior spyshots???</p>
<p>support proton 100%!!!</p>
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		<title>By: nyte_skater</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-186878</link>
		<dc:creator>nyte_skater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omg, that is one interesting stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg, that is one interesting stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: moha774</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-186845</link>
		<dc:creator>moha774</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The patented Proton MPV at UK Patent Office:
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/rs-bin/RightSite/formexec?edition=All&amp;main=12&amp;sub=08&amp;subsub=All&amp;proprietorname=&amp;pstype=S&amp;andor=LOC&amp;DMW_SEARCH_TEXT=&amp;TPO_CHUNK_SIZE=32&amp;DMW_INPUTFORM=tpo%2Flocarno_results&amp;DMW_ATTRIBUTES=object_name&amp;DMW_TYPE=design&amp;PREVIOUS_FORM=SEARCH&amp;TPO_HITS_SO_FAR=0&amp;BROWSER_TYPE=ie4&amp;PREVIOUS_SEARCH_FORM=EDITION7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The patented Proton MPV at UK Patent Office:<br />
<a href="http://www.ipo.gov.uk/rs-bin/RightSite/formexec?edition=All&#038;main=12&#038;sub=08&#038;subsub=All&#038;proprietorname=&#038;pstype=S&#038;andor=LOC&#038;DMW_SEARCH_TEXT=&#038;TPO_CHUNK_SIZE=32&#038;DMW_INPUTFORM=tpo%2Flocarno_results&#038;DMW_ATTRIBUTES=object_name&#038;DMW_TYPE=design&#038;PREVIOUS_FORM=SEARCH&#038;TPO_HITS_SO_FAR=0&#038;BROWSER_TYPE=ie4&#038;PREVIOUS_SEARCH_FORM=EDITION7" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipo.gov.uk/rs-bin/RightSite/formexec?edition=All&#038;main=12&#038;sub=08&#038;subsub=All&#038;proprietorname=&#038;pstype=S&#038;andor=LOC&#038;DMW_SEARCH_TEXT=&#038;TPO_CHUNK_SIZE=32&#038;DMW_INPUTFORM=tpo%2Flocarno_results&#038;DMW_ATTRIBUTES=object_name&#038;DMW_TYPE=design&#038;PREVIOUS_FORM=SEARCH&#038;TPO_HITS_SO_FAR=0&#038;BROWSER_TYPE=ie4&#038;PREVIOUS_SEARCH_FORM=EDITION7</a></p>
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		<title>By: bmpower</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-186498</link>
		<dc:creator>bmpower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernal = B0d0h sombong (that&#039;s Malay&#039;s word suit you) 

I think you overdosed exposure to the Anwar&#039;s and PR propaganda. BTW, not all of what they said are true.. Unless you;re blinded to them. Politician all the same. 

all fact already given, and also.. you must learn about the suspension too.. because you really didn&#039;t know much about it. 

The blind one was you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernal = B0d0h sombong (that&#8217;s Malay&#8217;s word suit you) </p>
<p>I think you overdosed exposure to the Anwar&#8217;s and PR propaganda. BTW, not all of what they said are true.. Unless you;re blinded to them. Politician all the same. </p>
<p>all fact already given, and also.. you must learn about the suspension too.. because you really didn&#8217;t know much about it. </p>
<p>The blind one was you.</p>
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		<title>By: Prem3377</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-186477</link>
		<dc:creator>Prem3377</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 11:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha..Mr bernal you are funny...but nothing is original nowadays in automotive industry...always remember this k..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha..Mr bernal you are funny&#8230;but nothing is original nowadays in automotive industry&#8230;always remember this k..</p>
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		<title>By: fastcx</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-186458</link>
		<dc:creator>fastcx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 09:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>like i said before, ppl likes to see things as how they wan2 believe it to be, mr. bernal wan2 believe what he said, let him be, when time comes, he&#039;ll know the fact. if he cant accept it, then its his own matter, waste time talking to him</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like i said before, ppl likes to see things as how they wan2 believe it to be, mr. bernal wan2 believe what he said, let him be, when time comes, he&#8217;ll know the fact. if he cant accept it, then its his own matter, waste time talking to him</p>
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		<title>By: Fridz</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-186410</link>
		<dc:creator>Fridz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,im very new here.(since reviewing this site for 2yrs)

from the first sight of this mpv, P1has a very impressive move.

i believe, giving a constructive comment will drive our auto-industry to the highest achivement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,im very new here.(since reviewing this site for 2yrs)</p>
<p>from the first sight of this mpv, P1has a very impressive move.</p>
<p>i believe, giving a constructive comment will drive our auto-industry to the highest achivement.</p>
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		<title>By: farghmee</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-186394</link>
		<dc:creator>farghmee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>offtopic again&gt;&gt;
if mr. benal is no more, then who is going to show which parts of proton mpv is copied from eastar? i&#039;m eager to know, engineering wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>offtopic again&gt;&gt;<br />
if mr. benal is no more, then who is going to show which parts of proton mpv is copied from eastar? i&#8217;m eager to know, engineering wise.</p>
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		<title>By: autojohndoe</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-186384</link>
		<dc:creator>autojohndoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 04:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what if the name happens to be &#039;proton bernal&#039;... kidding...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what if the name happens to be &#8216;proton bernal&#8217;&#8230; kidding&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: aenz81</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-186379</link>
		<dc:creator>aenz81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 03:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Mr. Bernal was a future superman... he can see both of mpv proton &amp; Chery have a similar chassis, similar wheelbase, torsion beam suspension, bolts, rubber tyres, glass windscreen, 12volts bulb, and etc with his X-Ray sight... that why he still assuming that proton mpv was based on chery eastar... come on dude, be open minded... tak semestinya keta proton yg terdahulu agak teruk dari segi kualiti masih jugak nak dibandingkan dgn keta proton yg berada di bawah management baru ni... look for the future, let&#039;s together go straight forward and just leave the past bad nightmare left behind... susah sgt ke nak buat??

&quot;hasrat hati nak memeluk gunung, apakan daya tangan tak sampai.... hasrat hati nak memilki Proton MPV baru, apakan daya duit tak mengizinkan utk mr Bernal kot??&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Mr. Bernal was a future superman&#8230; he can see both of mpv proton &amp; Chery have a similar chassis, similar wheelbase, torsion beam suspension, bolts, rubber tyres, glass windscreen, 12volts bulb, and etc with his X-Ray sight&#8230; that why he still assuming that proton mpv was based on chery eastar&#8230; come on dude, be open minded&#8230; tak semestinya keta proton yg terdahulu agak teruk dari segi kualiti masih jugak nak dibandingkan dgn keta proton yg berada di bawah management baru ni&#8230; look for the future, let&#8217;s together go straight forward and just leave the past bad nightmare left behind&#8230; susah sgt ke nak buat??</p>
<p>&#8220;hasrat hati nak memeluk gunung, apakan daya tangan tak sampai&#8230;. hasrat hati nak memilki Proton MPV baru, apakan daya duit tak mengizinkan utk mr Bernal kot??&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: autojohndoe</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-186376</link>
		<dc:creator>autojohndoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 03:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi nakal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi nakal</p>
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		<title>By: autojohndoe</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-186366</link>
		<dc:creator>autojohndoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 03:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>owh... and my point is... even people say everything...proton will try at their best... bravo!!! 

am i blind supporter? 

i think not... im studying automotive eng... even a little to master but o know it is very complex to design a chassis... even to design a steering rack needs detail study on the road surface, centrifugal force, ackermann angle, anti-ackermann.. haha, whateverla... off topic a bit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>owh&#8230; and my point is&#8230; even people say everything&#8230;proton will try at their best&#8230; bravo!!! </p>
<p>am i blind supporter? </p>
<p>i think not&#8230; im studying automotive eng&#8230; even a little to master but o know it is very complex to design a chassis&#8230; even to design a steering rack needs detail study on the road surface, centrifugal force, ackermann angle, anti-ackermann.. haha, whateverla&#8230; off topic a bit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: autojohndoe</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-186365</link>
		<dc:creator>autojohndoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 03:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha... funny la u all...

mr bernal... i think u r very dissapoint with the G not proton... some of us do... about tax and all that...

but maybe we r bit lucky here, tax on the car, subsidize on something else, fuel, rice, education adnd some more i cant think rite now... 

and someone said about other country fail in automotive industry... then , u want us malaysia just follows to fail to.. what a third class mind that does not have the desire to gain and improve... thats why la malaysia always going backward, because some of us compete to be lower than the lowest... haiyaa... what a waste if life, live but doesnt have the aim to be the best...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha&#8230; funny la u all&#8230;</p>
<p>mr bernal&#8230; i think u r very dissapoint with the G not proton&#8230; some of us do&#8230; about tax and all that&#8230;</p>
<p>but maybe we r bit lucky here, tax on the car, subsidize on something else, fuel, rice, education adnd some more i cant think rite now&#8230; </p>
<p>and someone said about other country fail in automotive industry&#8230; then , u want us malaysia just follows to fail to.. what a third class mind that does not have the desire to gain and improve&#8230; thats why la malaysia always going backward, because some of us compete to be lower than the lowest&#8230; haiyaa&#8230; what a waste if life, live but doesnt have the aim to be the best&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nakal</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-186351</link>
		<dc:creator>Nakal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why need to cabut bernal? The topic here is bout mpv proton, not politic... Did u know that the proton engineers also review this blog? they would very much appreciated if the customer/basher give the postitive comments/feedback so that they can make  improvement for their next model. So lets work together!!...dont la give nonsense comment.. politic la...apa la...


SPIRITS OF ACHIEVEMENT

bernal...im not blind supporter- i drive accord</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why need to cabut bernal? The topic here is bout mpv proton, not politic&#8230; Did u know that the proton engineers also review this blog? they would very much appreciated if the customer/basher give the postitive comments/feedback so that they can make  improvement for their next model. So lets work together!!&#8230;dont la give nonsense comment.. politic la&#8230;apa la&#8230;</p>
<p>SPIRITS OF ACHIEVEMENT</p>
<p>bernal&#8230;im not blind supporter- i drive accord</p>
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		<title>By: bernal</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-186345</link>
		<dc:creator>bernal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha, better cabut now, otherwise proton blind-supporters all come and taruh me. 
If proton fails, we rakyat also fail too because proton will ask for more protection, so better proton lulus &amp; bagus !  Unless BN runtuh, then proton will be crying!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha, better cabut now, otherwise proton blind-supporters all come and taruh me.<br />
If proton fails, we rakyat also fail too because proton will ask for more protection, so better proton lulus &amp; bagus !  Unless BN runtuh, then proton will be crying!</p>
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		<title>By: farghmee</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-186341</link>
		<dc:creator>farghmee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yawn~

offtopic&gt;&gt;
mr. bernal, plz don&#039;t forget to show us the &quot;copied&quot; parts of eastar that u would find in the proton mpv. hmm..i think u will have circa 5months to accomplish that :)

offtopic&gt;&gt;
err..will proton come out with SUV? i really like the APX design :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yawn~</p>
<p>offtopic&gt;&gt;<br />
mr. bernal, plz don&#8217;t forget to show us the &#8220;copied&#8221; parts of eastar that u would find in the proton mpv. hmm..i think u will have circa 5months to accomplish that <img src='http://s2.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>offtopic&gt;&gt;<br />
err..will proton come out with SUV? i really like the APX design <img src='http://s2.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nakal</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-186339</link>
		<dc:creator>Nakal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mr bernal...i think ure not proton basher... but a G/policitic basher.. 
if u have some knowledge bout auto engineering..so plz share with us...
but its not...NAP lah, korea china lah..astonaut lah.. Whats actually u want to say? give proof!!.. ur comments show u know nothing about auto engineering...  what a shame!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mr bernal&#8230;i think ure not proton basher&#8230; but a G/policitic basher..<br />
if u have some knowledge bout auto engineering..so plz share with us&#8230;<br />
but its not&#8230;NAP lah, korea china lah..astonaut lah.. Whats actually u want to say? give proof!!.. ur comments show u know nothing about auto engineering&#8230;  what a shame!!</p>
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		<title>By: bernal</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/02/spyshot-proton-mpv-next-to-a-grand-livina/#comment-186319</link>
		<dc:creator>bernal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i believe proton can do better than eastar, just from past history proton was very emphasize on handling department(which need solid support from varies points of body/frame). Yes, torsion beam design is used in various cars setup too, to save some spaces for the rear. 
If proton/NAP can do like what korean/china provided to their people, which make the car price substantially lower than imports, then many will support. 
But ask rakyat to sacrify for 20 + 20 years at higher price, then still sorry.
For example as analogy, our astronaut at space station, can we call this national pride?  Even china/india efforts to the space/moon recently were also at minimal mean(cause USA/russian can do it 30-40 years ago), but the political sense is much much more useful. Got it ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i believe proton can do better than eastar, just from past history proton was very emphasize on handling department(which need solid support from varies points of body/frame). Yes, torsion beam design is used in various cars setup too, to save some spaces for the rear.<br />
If proton/NAP can do like what korean/china provided to their people, which make the car price substantially lower than imports, then many will support.<br />
But ask rakyat to sacrify for 20 + 20 years at higher price, then still sorry.<br />
For example as analogy, our astronaut at space station, can we call this national pride?  Even china/india efforts to the space/moon recently were also at minimal mean(cause USA/russian can do it 30-40 years ago), but the political sense is much much more useful. Got it ?</p>
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