Fuel efficient, in malaysia navara get the 3rd after Dmax and Ssangyong.

Well, I also have the experience like you before, thinking of get a pick-up. In the end, I don’t buy a navara for a reason. I also have tried.

Nissan developed this engine, 2.5l with very high power and torque, even 3.2l 4m41 mitsubishi can chase them. They put a higher rpm compare to others and vgs turbo on a small cylinder engine. This actually gave the engine ‘stress’ when you accelerate hard or during more torque is required. This is how Isuzu develope their engines and that is why Isuzu engines are weaker in hp and torque. They trying to minimize the ‘stress’ of the engines and thats why the engine are very durable. taking isuzu’s 4ja1 engine for example, 80hp and 175nm torque such a low strength, I ever met a friend drive more than 800,000km without overhaul. Engine ‘stress’ actually very important. In long term, usually injector may cause problem or the common rail ecu. But so far, I found 1 navara suffer crack engine block.

Nowadays, a lot of car makers trying to put a high hp and torque for customers satisfaction and usually durability ‘just enough’ to cover the warranty period. So I had choose the one made for engine durable.

And also Fuel efficient.FYI, Navara is heavier than all the other double cabin ( hence called the mother trucker ?) and you talking bout fuel efficiency? I tried Navara and it’s not so nimble and response is no better then the other brand ( although using the 3rd gen).

Honestly, what you mention about navara is right. I also found a lot start to produce black smoke and lead to injector problem. Plus, some have to remap the common rail ecu. This is the main problem of nissan.

Also, I’m no car designer but I think buying a car that is reliable is better then buying a car with all the high techs but no support and always broken down. In my area there’s a POOR guy bought a brand new Navara but now having injector problems. Now the car cannot drive and Nissan still cannot manage to get a brand new replacement injector for him. He’s gonna sell the car STRAIGHT off after the replacement.

Buying a car and expecting it uses all the latest technology is not my fancy. I’m using the car as a workhorse, a reliable one I’m seeking. I don’t want a car with rocket engine fitted with all the latest techno but no reliability and HIGH i mean high maintenance fee. This is a double cabin, NOT a sedan, NOT for racing.

Never the less, I also don’t want to wake up every morning MANUALLY disarming my car’s alarm ( next time better yet, Nissan can fix a BIG pad lock there). I EXPECT HIGH TECH IN THAT AREA for a 105k car. Manually disarming alarm is stone-age techno!!

Hope you can find a good pick up. Mostly car salesman won’t tell you about the engine technology. Because some of them don’t understand. Engine technology is important in terms of engine lifetime, durability, fuel efficiency…

Well, first of all, hilux 3.0l and 2.5l uses 1st generation common rail. Where others uses 3rd generation already except 3.2 triton. First generation uses 135mpa pressure. 2nd generation uses 160mpa and 3rd uses 180mpa. So better go for higher mpa so the engine lifetime are longer, more fuel efficient of course less black smoke.

Second, turbo. Some uses vgt turbo to develope more hp and torque and fuel efficiency.

3rd, comfort and car stability.. Coil spring front suspension pick up are more comfortable. But torsion bar is more stable.

Good luck bro. Hope you choose good pick up.

YES – the dark grey is very plasticky!!!

I used to drive Hilux manual since Feb 09 until recently July 10 my Hilux got “cilok”!!! I am considering other not so hot vehicles. I wonder what is like to drive and maintain a Manual Navara and an Auto Navara – in term of robustness and maintenance cost. Kindly share some info.

2. Althogh engine is powerful, the throttle just not as responsive as to compare to other brand’s double cabins (I have tested Ford, Mitsui and Toyota). Have to be heavy footed to move the car, is it something to do with the gear ratio? If that’s so, then it would be not that economy to drive??

3. I find the Navara’s steering is heavy. Driving it around city road will be harder in compare to other double cabins that I found to be more nimble/easy to drive and park.

4. This one really deters me from buying the Navara, the imobiliser need MANUAL disarming! Is this true or is it just for the demo car. Really the low low point for a car costing 105k ( aside the lousy interior.) Remember seeing this in Hilux 7 or 8 years back!!!

Really really disappointed after testing the Navara, before the test drive really though that this is the truck for me, now have to wait for the Hilux 3.0 before making any decision.

I’ve been sending few messages to Tan Chong Nissan, mostly regarding the EURO NCAP result. THEY DON’T RESPOND! Very dissappointed.

i think this is a good truck for long distance, but again the poor back seat is not practical, too straight…… hope that, there will be a solution from nissan or other fans

is good to have Nissan Pathfinder version 2005(Terrano) as another option as 4wd passenger cabin in Malaysia compared to Ford Everest 2.5 TDCi