Ahahahaha, tu la, undi lagi bee anne, kan dah kene liwat kawkaw, konon subsidi minyak, skrg kite plak subsidi diorg ahahahah. I’ll be able to vote nxt election (missed last 8 march cuz still underage by a couple of weeks =.= ) n I’ll def gonna use it wisely.

offtopic>>
my eagerness towards p1 mpv is greater than p2’s

November 9, 2008 @ 11:29 am

ALPINA Bukard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG said,
November 8, 2008 @ 6:29 pm
buy european and japanese produce
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but some malaysian think “perodua is japanaese product maaa”..
do u think they buy myvi or viva becoz of perodua name??? noo… they buy becoz it’s japanese base car maa
prrrfthh

look at perodua Nautica.. eventho CBU 100% from Japan (except emblem and bumper).. nobody wanna buy that car
prrrfthhh
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sure nobody buy, who buys that car?toyota rush for stingy no car knowledge uncle and aunties, they see, toyota rush, japanese brand, cheaper than malaysian brand, of cos i buy toyota la.

look at perodua Nautica.. eventho CBU 100% from Japan (except emblem and bumper).. nobody wanna buy that car
prrrfthhh

November 8, 2008 @ 11:43 am

tokmoh said,
November 7, 2008 @ 11:09 pm

If a local company isn’t passionate to give the best buck for rakyat’s money, then they’re not making products for us, bt for them to get cocky wit bmws n porsches. remember makkal sakthi!!

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That is sooooooo damn true bro!!! My point exactly. Why do we want to support a local products base on patriotism alone while the local manufacturers/owners who’s only CONCERN to make big bucks and arrogantly buying/spending on foreign products (exp. cars, clothes, vacation and such)!!
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buy european and japanese produce

If a local company isn’t passionate to give the best buck for rakyat’s money, then they’re not making products for us, bt for them to get cocky wit bmws n porsches. remember makkal sakthi!!

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That is sooooooo damn true bro!!! My point exactly. Why do we want to support a local products base on patriotism alone while the local manufacturers/owners who’s only CONCERN to make big bucks and arrogantly buying/spending on foreign products (exp. cars, clothes, vacation and such)!!

November 7, 2008 @ 11:09 pm

Well said torque. Exactly what I wanted to tell him. Ragnahse is only half correct on the consumer issue cuz he overlooked the part of proton MERITLY do give the best buck for ur money. To still reject proton will therefore mean to reject the other half: patriotic matter. Well, its ok. Lookin like a citizen of an otaku-plagued nation is more important than savin our country for some ppl.

And another thing:
“p/s: Patriotism for me apply to the COUNTRY and the PRODUCTS!!”

fix’d for greater justice. If a local company isn’t passionate to give the best buck for rakyat’s money, then they’re not making products for us, bt for them to get cocky wit bmws n porsches. remember makkal sakthi!!
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buy airplanes better. no need ap.

And another thing:
“p/s: Patriotism for me apply to the COUNTRY and the PRODUCTS!!”

fix’d for greater justice. If a local company isn’t passionate to give the best buck for rakyat’s money, then they’re not making products for us, bt for them to get cocky wit bmws n porsches. remember makkal sakthi!!

I’m only a chopper, and I’m just about relatively good at it, that’s all.

Automotive_Critics said,
November 6, 2008 @ 1:36 pm

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Dear Automotive_Critics,

I think as a CONSUMER, Ragnahse have the EVERY rights to voice out what he believe in issue regarding “best bang for buck”! I strongly believe EVERYONE here and out there has the right to spend their hard earn money purely on their choices and tastes rather than purchasing base on patriotism!!! PLEASE, don’t take my comments wrongly (Hate that when it happen)…I’m not saying that purchasing Proton isn’t best bang for buck but I think buying Proton for the sake of patriotism is not very wise. WE…I mean WE as a consumer deserve what is BEST for us (money spend included) and also towards our family. That my friend I think might be even more wiser than purely buying things base on patriotism. Example, let’s just say that Proton still making crap cars with unsolved electric window malfunction problem and reliability issue…would you still buy it purely on patriotism my friend?

But SINCE that Proton is currently on the right path by introducing more models with improving qualities, buying Proton these days is not only I think is best bang for buck but combine that with a bit of patriotism…is a WORTH buy in my book! Just to be fair on both party only…peace!

p/s: Patriotism for me only apply to the COUNTRY not to PRODUCTS!!

Nice work bro but the front headlamp remind me of the Lexus wan lah, ambil dari IS 250 izzit? And the funniest thing is…MPV Perodua tapi ‘curik’ tayar from Mazda…keh keh keh…sorry TC, gurau saja since so many ‘flame’ around here! Panas wor…bagi cool down sikit!

And they did NOTHING..
What the H was that? What vision.

More rubbish is.. they got special treatment as Proton toooooo.. and they got more profit than proton.. But SADLY.. they just a PROXY for japan company took our money.

WHAT A SHAME! Indeed… a very bad shame!

Hmmm….

I know a story about the Myvi bumper…

The 1st bumper there is a bit of overlook at the area where the bumper-fender-headlight meet. There is no bracket there causing the bumper and fender not to align.

For the SE, they used vendor expertise to design it. Guess what? the vendor uses Lotus malaysia engineers to design it for them (as freelance job)…

Look at the 1st SE bumper. No more gap as per normal Myvi bumper.

Proton, well they dont have enough part bin to begin with, that limits their product life cycle roll and they require constant facelift to prevent being bored. The product planning must work extremely hard to prevent wrong planning ( ~90K/yr in the span of 5 yrs for G2? oh please..) and correct product and pricing is very important especially in testing times now. Should they get a good partner (in the form of VW or PSA even BMW perhaps or Daimler but most likely MMC – janda lama) they’ll do good, especially when you have access to the part bin.
Neo with PSA turbo Diesel? CVT MPV heheh

And to CarCraze, journeyman like Robbie Keane or David Bentley move around. Dont ask why…

What is unknown is the manpower strength and the technical capabilities of Perodua designers. Has that team expanded to include more engineers with more technical sophistication and experience is anyone’s guess. Based on the recent launches of Perodua new vehicles and cosmetic change models, the team doesn’t seem to grow though. At least not fast enough.

What’s more important is the actual direction Perodua is taking right now. Does it intent to be able to develop own platforms, engines, powertrains and so on? This is important yet this is also not clear to us. If Perodua intents to more or less remain where it is now, then it has done us the rakyat a disservice. Its existence is then nothing more significant than Honda plant existence in Pagoh or Merc in Pekan.

Come to think about it – heck – even Naza has a clearer future direction than Perodua!