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	<title>Comments on: Sources: Syed Zainal may leave when contract ends?</title>
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		<title>By: Hanafee</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-244865</link>
		<dc:creator>Hanafee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>askum to all of you...it is only my prediction....i don&#039;t think DSZ will leave proton as what he has done recently...but i also didn&#039;t think that he will remain for another 5 years....what i&#039;m trying to say is...no matter who are going to take over the managing director position these people must have very good thinking for future and expanding to international market as these what we aim since our fourth prime minister launched in 1980s....so i as malaysian citizen are delighted to see proton being able to compete with international brand...who knows maybe proton able to developed formula 1 engine...just wish good luck and for god sake plz find a suitable people for this position...thank you.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>askum to all of you&#8230;it is only my prediction&#8230;.i don&#039;t think DSZ will leave proton as what he has done recently&#8230;but i also didn&#039;t think that he will remain for another 5 years&#8230;.what i&#039;m trying to say is&#8230;no matter who are going to take over the managing director position these people must have very good thinking for future and expanding to international market as these what we aim since our fourth prime minister launched in 1980s&#8230;.so i as malaysian citizen are delighted to see proton being able to compete with international brand&#8230;who knows maybe proton able to developed formula 1 engine&#8230;just wish good luck and for god sake plz find a suitable people for this position&#8230;thank you&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: gie7</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188828</link>
		<dc:creator>gie7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>saya bukan seorang yang amat kenal dengan dia..tapi kenal dengan pencapaian dia n apa yang dia boleh buat...semua kita tau dia ni orang sejarah tapi dalam industri kereta, tm adalah seorang yang hebat...skarang tengah gawat, GM pun G US nak kena tolong...masa 1998 1999, zaman tm, G tak tolong...ada ornag akan kata masa tu lain, sekarang lain...tapi gawat juga kan...takpelah...saya cuma komen je...saya masih sokong kalau tm masuk balik dalam proton...dulu proton ada projek mpv yang semua pakai carbon fibre..tapi dah tak jalan semua tu...nape tm beli mv agusta yang semua kata dia gila sbb buat proton rugi...bmw beli sebahagian dari mv agusta sama sbb tm beli...kan sama kepala tm dengan kepala ceo...tm dah jadi sejarah kepada proton...tidak percaya tidak ada masalah...saya juga tak boleh trima cara dia yang sbbkan standard kereta proton 1.6 tidak ada brek disk..ramai yang marah semasa tm tak letak aksesori safety banyak2 kat kereta proton...proton 1.6 standard zaman tm ada brek disk kat belakang...dan start daripada savvy, tuk baiki kualiti kereta proton, pergi abik TUV dari jerman,,,selepas tm resign, mana pergi TUV...mungkin ada crite d sebalik crite...masih mengkagumi tm daripada syed zainal..tapi masing2 ada kelemahan dan kebaikain,,,itu aku akui....pe pun, tahniah tuk semua pencapaian dia selama ini dan yang akan datang...selamat maju jaya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saya bukan seorang yang amat kenal dengan dia..tapi kenal dengan pencapaian dia n apa yang dia boleh buat&#8230;semua kita tau dia ni orang sejarah tapi dalam industri kereta, tm adalah seorang yang hebat&#8230;skarang tengah gawat, GM pun G US nak kena tolong&#8230;masa 1998 1999, zaman tm, G tak tolong&#8230;ada ornag akan kata masa tu lain, sekarang lain&#8230;tapi gawat juga kan&#8230;takpelah&#8230;saya cuma komen je&#8230;saya masih sokong kalau tm masuk balik dalam proton&#8230;dulu proton ada projek mpv yang semua pakai carbon fibre..tapi dah tak jalan semua tu&#8230;nape tm beli mv agusta yang semua kata dia gila sbb buat proton rugi&#8230;bmw beli sebahagian dari mv agusta sama sbb tm beli&#8230;kan sama kepala tm dengan kepala ceo&#8230;tm dah jadi sejarah kepada proton&#8230;tidak percaya tidak ada masalah&#8230;saya juga tak boleh trima cara dia yang sbbkan standard kereta proton 1.6 tidak ada brek disk..ramai yang marah semasa tm tak letak aksesori safety banyak2 kat kereta proton&#8230;proton 1.6 standard zaman tm ada brek disk kat belakang&#8230;dan start daripada savvy, tuk baiki kualiti kereta proton, pergi abik TUV dari jerman,,,selepas tm resign, mana pergi TUV&#8230;mungkin ada crite d sebalik crite&#8230;masih mengkagumi tm daripada syed zainal..tapi masing2 ada kelemahan dan kebaikain,,,itu aku akui&#8230;.pe pun, tahniah tuk semua pencapaian dia selama ini dan yang akan datang&#8230;selamat maju jaya</p>
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		<title>By: ALPINA Bukard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188445</link>
		<dc:creator>ALPINA Bukard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proton is dragging down the malaysian economy, pakatan rakyat come on, kick fucking bn out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proton is dragging down the malaysian economy, pakatan rakyat come on, kick fucking bn out</p>
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		<title>By: Infinitt</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188344</link>
		<dc:creator>Infinitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He, DSZ should stay at Proton at least 4-5 years more. Anyway, cant believe with The Edge news. Go Proton, when the MPV name announce???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He, DSZ should stay at Proton at least 4-5 years more. Anyway, cant believe with The Edge news. Go Proton, when the MPV name announce???</p>
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		<title>By: ALPINA Bukard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188318</link>
		<dc:creator>ALPINA Bukard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>liquidate proton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>liquidate proton</p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188307</link>
		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only can resurrect the dead and bring back Tan Sri Yahya from that helicopter crash, but then again that time proton was so dominant that quality suffered</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only can resurrect the dead and bring back Tan Sri Yahya from that helicopter crash, but then again that time proton was so dominant that quality suffered</p>
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		<title>By: Fridz</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188291</link>
		<dc:creator>Fridz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed with autojohndoe,high RnD cost will make the new model priced high.

imagine why proton can tag BLM with priced under 40K.its because proton didnt use their budget to RnD another new model.by changing a little to their Savvy, they can produce a new segment,different use n different target audience-A new SAGA..hence,they have 2 segment, compact hatchback n a compact sedan..i tought nissan also do as this.(with their Latio n Livina-correct me if im wrong)

at last,they can put their money to RnD other things.thats a good marketing strategy..

go Proton..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed with autojohndoe,high RnD cost will make the new model priced high.</p>
<p>imagine why proton can tag BLM with priced under 40K.its because proton didnt use their budget to RnD another new model.by changing a little to their Savvy, they can produce a new segment,different use n different target audience-A new SAGA..hence,they have 2 segment, compact hatchback n a compact sedan..i tought nissan also do as this.(with their Latio n Livina-correct me if im wrong)</p>
<p>at last,they can put their money to RnD other things.thats a good marketing strategy..</p>
<p>go Proton..</p>
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		<title>By: TheDuck</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188290</link>
		<dc:creator>TheDuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALPINA Bukard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG said, &quot;proton just sell yourselves to fiat&quot;

I disagree, Proton should just LIQUIDATE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALPINA Bukard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG said, &#8220;proton just sell yourselves to fiat&#8221;</p>
<p>I disagree, Proton should just LIQUIDATE!</p>
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		<title>By: autojohndoe</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188276</link>
		<dc:creator>autojohndoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gie7 is a bit funny i think... everybody, even public saw TM made a lot of mistakes... 

maybe there was something that we cant see that the others clearly notify...

about cutting RnD budget, that will teach u how to be more very detail and careful on ur work, focused on what has been planned and critical on every part purchased. thats how proton will sell the car at lower price. high RnD budget will reflect to the price also... just think more... 

i may understand ur sadness of losing some advantages u got during TM reign. but, the new management gives u sumthing else rather than extra money for RnD rite? i mean, confident of the buyer, higher sales, BONUS...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gie7 is a bit funny i think&#8230; everybody, even public saw TM made a lot of mistakes&#8230; </p>
<p>maybe there was something that we cant see that the others clearly notify&#8230;</p>
<p>about cutting RnD budget, that will teach u how to be more very detail and careful on ur work, focused on what has been planned and critical on every part purchased. thats how proton will sell the car at lower price. high RnD budget will reflect to the price also&#8230; just think more&#8230; </p>
<p>i may understand ur sadness of losing some advantages u got during TM reign. but, the new management gives u sumthing else rather than extra money for RnD rite? i mean, confident of the buyer, higher sales, BONUS&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ALPINA Bukard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188238</link>
		<dc:creator>ALPINA Bukard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proton just sell yourselves to fiat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proton just sell yourselves to fiat</p>
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		<title>By: Wisdom</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188148</link>
		<dc:creator>Wisdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Business and Politics doesn&#039;t really suit each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Business and Politics doesn&#8217;t really suit each other.</p>
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		<title>By: BanyakMasukWorkshop</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188121</link>
		<dc:creator>BanyakMasukWorkshop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>automotive critic

Toyota is one of the company that promoting this activity widely..if im not mistaken, the avanza door outer and inner handle is carried over from kancil..please check..

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you actually make very valid points dude.. but i think proton&#039;s R&amp;D is more on working on new models.. their problem now is, their product range is not diversified enough..  also.. its totally unfair to expect proton to be able to do what toyota does today.   toyota has so many models in their range from which to share parts to reduce cost and improve economies of scale.. but proton is working on that right now.. for a start.. all engines are campro today.. no more buying from mitsu..  persona shares many parts from gen2..  likewise saga and savvy has some parts sharing as well...  

i dare say proton used to try and &quot;re-invent&quot; the wheel under TM.. but under DSZ, they are definitely more practical now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>automotive critic</p>
<p>Toyota is one of the company that promoting this activity widely..if im not mistaken, the avanza door outer and inner handle is carried over from kancil..please check..</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>you actually make very valid points dude.. but i think proton&#8217;s R&amp;D is more on working on new models.. their problem now is, their product range is not diversified enough..  also.. its totally unfair to expect proton to be able to do what toyota does today.   toyota has so many models in their range from which to share parts to reduce cost and improve economies of scale.. but proton is working on that right now.. for a start.. all engines are campro today.. no more buying from mitsu..  persona shares many parts from gen2..  likewise saga and savvy has some parts sharing as well&#8230;  </p>
<p>i dare say proton used to try and &#8220;re-invent&#8221; the wheel under TM.. but under DSZ, they are definitely more practical now.</p>
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		<title>By: rufus-x</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188112</link>
		<dc:creator>rufus-x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw, he is a &#039;Datuk&#039;..he&#039;s the ceo..he&#039;s the boss..he&#039;s the mastermind...
he&#039;s the chosen one to lead proton..
who are we to tell that he&#039;s not suit for his job? hmm?
who are u to question his decisions?

ask that to urself before criticising him.. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw, he is a &#8216;Datuk&#8217;..he&#8217;s the ceo..he&#8217;s the boss..he&#8217;s the mastermind&#8230;<br />
he&#8217;s the chosen one to lead proton..<br />
who are we to tell that he&#8217;s not suit for his job? hmm?<br />
who are u to question his decisions?</p>
<p>ask that to urself before criticising him.. <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rufus-x</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188109</link>
		<dc:creator>rufus-x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gie7:

ok,maybe i dont know TM nor DSZ as much as u knew them..

but, from logical point of view, i think...

1. cut RnD budget..its already explained by Automotive_Critics n i can understand what he&#039;s saying..kinda logical..why must RnD a thing thats already there rite? - just improve on the quality first and then if u want to build new things, go ahead..so, i dont think all the budget shud go into RnD for the time being..we really should not try to reinvent the wheels at this point..just make something more out of it..make it better..

2. TM keluarkan mpv n kereta sport..? - i seriously havent heard of this yet..
ok, even if he does..the most logical explanation i can think is..DSZ dont want proton to waste more on new products if its still cant achieve the quality the customers demands..its simply logical..
do u really want a proton mpv if its out yrs back with that cheap proton quality?
do u really want a sport car made by crappy proton back then?
i dont think so..so, wat DSZ is trying to do was improve more on all the existing models proton had first before trying on new car segments or projects..thats why we had the BLM saga..even the BLM saga quality is much much better than any of the models from TM&#039;s era right? - ini belum lagi cerita pasal harga kereta ni..harga kereta compare dgn quality dan servis yg diberikan..

thats the least of what i can came out with la..i dunno the person..
but he DO make the proton hero rite now..

Prem3377 :
bro, u just read my mind..100% agreed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gie7:</p>
<p>ok,maybe i dont know TM nor DSZ as much as u knew them..</p>
<p>but, from logical point of view, i think&#8230;</p>
<p>1. cut RnD budget..its already explained by Automotive_Critics n i can understand what he&#8217;s saying..kinda logical..why must RnD a thing thats already there rite? &#8211; just improve on the quality first and then if u want to build new things, go ahead..so, i dont think all the budget shud go into RnD for the time being..we really should not try to reinvent the wheels at this point..just make something more out of it..make it better..</p>
<p>2. TM keluarkan mpv n kereta sport..? &#8211; i seriously havent heard of this yet..<br />
ok, even if he does..the most logical explanation i can think is..DSZ dont want proton to waste more on new products if its still cant achieve the quality the customers demands..its simply logical..<br />
do u really want a proton mpv if its out yrs back with that cheap proton quality?<br />
do u really want a sport car made by crappy proton back then?<br />
i dont think so..so, wat DSZ is trying to do was improve more on all the existing models proton had first before trying on new car segments or projects..thats why we had the BLM saga..even the BLM saga quality is much much better than any of the models from TM&#8217;s era right? &#8211; ini belum lagi cerita pasal harga kereta ni..harga kereta compare dgn quality dan servis yg diberikan..</p>
<p>thats the least of what i can came out with la..i dunno the person..<br />
but he DO make the proton hero rite now..</p>
<p>Prem3377 :<br />
bro, u just read my mind..100% agreed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Imation</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188100</link>
		<dc:creator>Imation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cikaput.....ur damn right!!! Just look at 1 of the biggest idiot he brought from P*&amp;^@#$ into Marketing Dept (to name one). What happen to the now chaotic dept? 
He can do whatever he wants long as it benefits the company not ruining it.....it&#039;s already ruined thanx to TM 10 yr reign..Unfortunately thats not the case...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cikaput&#8230;..ur damn right!!! Just look at 1 of the biggest idiot he brought from P*&amp;^@#$ into Marketing Dept (to name one). What happen to the now chaotic dept?<br />
He can do whatever he wants long as it benefits the company not ruining it&#8230;..it&#8217;s already ruined thanx to TM 10 yr reign..Unfortunately thats not the case&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Automotive_Critics</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188099</link>
		<dc:creator>Automotive_Critics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gie7 said,
November 13, 2008 @ 12:48 pm

[aku memang tak suka dengan syed zainal ni…aku start tak suka kat dia bila dia mengurangkan kos r n d…ni syarikat kereta bang..camne nak hidup kalau r n d tak berapa nak jalan…]
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Don&#039;t be misunderstood..reducing the RND cost does not mean to halt the RND operation..white i understand from various publication is the RND cost reduced thru part carry over activity especially for small part..it is not necessary to design new part as the existing part still not outdated...from this a car maker can save the investment budget hence improve and sustain their financial liquidity..

Toyota is one of the company that promoting this activity widely..if im not mistaken, the avanza door outer and inner handle is carried over from kancil..please check..

Financial matters should be think as long term basis not as short term basis..as for proton, their responsibility is not only make and selling car but its contributions to people who are direct or directly connected with them. People want every company to be as long as their can as they earn money from them..pay housing loan and live peacefully..unless youre richman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gie7 said,<br />
November 13, 2008 @ 12:48 pm</p>
<p>[aku memang tak suka dengan syed zainal ni…aku start tak suka kat dia bila dia mengurangkan kos r n d…ni syarikat kereta bang..camne nak hidup kalau r n d tak berapa nak jalan…]<br />
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Don&#8217;t be misunderstood..reducing the RND cost does not mean to halt the RND operation..white i understand from various publication is the RND cost reduced thru part carry over activity especially for small part..it is not necessary to design new part as the existing part still not outdated&#8230;from this a car maker can save the investment budget hence improve and sustain their financial liquidity..</p>
<p>Toyota is one of the company that promoting this activity widely..if im not mistaken, the avanza door outer and inner handle is carried over from kancil..please check..</p>
<p>Financial matters should be think as long term basis not as short term basis..as for proton, their responsibility is not only make and selling car but its contributions to people who are direct or directly connected with them. People want every company to be as long as their can as they earn money from them..pay housing loan and live peacefully..unless youre richman.</p>
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		<title>By: Prem3377</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188091</link>
		<dc:creator>Prem3377</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at first i didnt like SZA too but he is a smart guy and i do have respect for smart people..and he is capable of handling proton AND MALAYSIANS...and he keeps his words and lauches cars within the time frame he sets...and cars are improving too...TM was not bad but his vision was far ahead but implementation was not..that was his problem..


he knows how to create car which is suitable for the market and price them right...

proton actually dont need much..

yah like someone said the engine department...


proton just need three type of engines... one with the range frm 1.3 cc to 1.6 cc where it must have turbo charging or super charging capabilities..(so can challenge 1.8 engines)

then diesel engines..again starting from 1.6 to 2.0 with turbo charging...

next a 2.0 to 2.2 or 2.4 engine...all for cylinders....and tats it...

proton also dont have to waste much time or money on R&amp;D since many of this engines are readily available from independent engine produces....

proton is already good in producing chassis and good handling...so mix and matching them to  these engines are not hard and dont consume much time..so one car a year target can be achieved...

look at BMW..i mean not in term of luxury,quality or the rest..but how cost effective they are and how they mix and match engines and etc

the next step if proton to increase quality....proton actually has already come to age in assembly but the proton problem is the cut cost in important area..

the human interface parts,the parts we always touch,feel and use...

gear knobs,steering,buttons,switches,door knob and door panels plus da rest where people always touch and use..to improve this quality area it wont really cost much and people are always willing to pay rm 1000 to 2000 extra if its good..

we dont have to waste millions in R&amp;D like Audi or renault does for its interior designs..we just have to look at them and learn..they are pioneering the technology but we dont need to for now..

and the final part of proton is safety and marketing!!!and the most important part!!

first proton atleast must have alot of these three/four letters abbreviation..abs,ebd,esp,tc,vvti,cps,vtec and things like tat..atleast give them as options so that people will be able to choose what they want to drive..a safer car or a cheaper car..

and next is marketing..proton is doing ok here...but improvement is always important...and proton marketing department is kinda creative with their promotion and all lately and its good..


bout cronies and vendor...that i dont know how to improve la</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at first i didnt like SZA too but he is a smart guy and i do have respect for smart people..and he is capable of handling proton AND MALAYSIANS&#8230;and he keeps his words and lauches cars within the time frame he sets&#8230;and cars are improving too&#8230;TM was not bad but his vision was far ahead but implementation was not..that was his problem..</p>
<p>he knows how to create car which is suitable for the market and price them right&#8230;</p>
<p>proton actually dont need much..</p>
<p>yah like someone said the engine department&#8230;</p>
<p>proton just need three type of engines&#8230; one with the range frm 1.3 cc to 1.6 cc where it must have turbo charging or super charging capabilities..(so can challenge 1.8 engines)</p>
<p>then diesel engines..again starting from 1.6 to 2.0 with turbo charging&#8230;</p>
<p>next a 2.0 to 2.2 or 2.4 engine&#8230;all for cylinders&#8230;.and tats it&#8230;</p>
<p>proton also dont have to waste much time or money on R&amp;D since many of this engines are readily available from independent engine produces&#8230;.</p>
<p>proton is already good in producing chassis and good handling&#8230;so mix and matching them to  these engines are not hard and dont consume much time..so one car a year target can be achieved&#8230;</p>
<p>look at BMW..i mean not in term of luxury,quality or the rest..but how cost effective they are and how they mix and match engines and etc</p>
<p>the next step if proton to increase quality&#8230;.proton actually has already come to age in assembly but the proton problem is the cut cost in important area..</p>
<p>the human interface parts,the parts we always touch,feel and use&#8230;</p>
<p>gear knobs,steering,buttons,switches,door knob and door panels plus da rest where people always touch and use..to improve this quality area it wont really cost much and people are always willing to pay rm 1000 to 2000 extra if its good..</p>
<p>we dont have to waste millions in R&amp;D like Audi or renault does for its interior designs..we just have to look at them and learn..they are pioneering the technology but we dont need to for now..</p>
<p>and the final part of proton is safety and marketing!!!and the most important part!!</p>
<p>first proton atleast must have alot of these three/four letters abbreviation..abs,ebd,esp,tc,vvti,cps,vtec and things like tat..atleast give them as options so that people will be able to choose what they want to drive..a safer car or a cheaper car..</p>
<p>and next is marketing..proton is doing ok here&#8230;but improvement is always important&#8230;and proton marketing department is kinda creative with their promotion and all lately and its good..</p>
<p>bout cronies and vendor&#8230;that i dont know how to improve la</p>
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		<title>By: ob8</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188080</link>
		<dc:creator>ob8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it would b a dissaster if proton management is returning to the cronys like the tun dr mhtir era. the position should b fill by merit not by cronys wit cabel fiber optic. i wonder if najib is the pm, wht changes will he do</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it would b a dissaster if proton management is returning to the cronys like the tun dr mhtir era. the position should b fill by merit not by cronys wit cabel fiber optic. i wonder if najib is the pm, wht changes will he do</p>
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		<title>By: rufus-x</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188079</link>
		<dc:creator>rufus-x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or unless...
they have 1.8 variants of cps for waja...
then oni got no problem i think..
who wants sporty look can go for gen2..
n those who wanted sedan can go for persona..
rite?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or unless&#8230;<br />
they have 1.8 variants of cps for waja&#8230;<br />
then oni got no problem i think..<br />
who wants sporty look can go for gen2..<br />
n those who wanted sedan can go for persona..<br />
rite?</p>
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		<title>By: Automotive_Critics</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188077</link>
		<dc:creator>Automotive_Critics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Persona CPS most probably will not be added to proton line up if waja and Gen2 CPS still being produced..if it is so, it will eat into this 2 model market..so..you must wait untill this 2 model phased off.. Proton should not have too many sedan in its line up..like nowadays, they just making headache with marketing problem..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Persona CPS most probably will not be added to proton line up if waja and Gen2 CPS still being produced..if it is so, it will eat into this 2 model market..so..you must wait untill this 2 model phased off.. Proton should not have too many sedan in its line up..like nowadays, they just making headache with marketing problem..</p>
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		<title>By: ALPINA Bukard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188051</link>
		<dc:creator>ALPINA Bukard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he&#039;s a lousy ceo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he&#8217;s a lousy ceo</p>
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		<title>By: SY0H</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188050</link>
		<dc:creator>SY0H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still waiting for Persona CPS... still waiting... waiting... waiting...

Relaku menunggu mu, 1000 tahun lama lagi,
Tapi benarkah hidup, aku akan selama ini, yeahhh,
Biar berputar, utara selatan,
Ku tak putus harapan, setia sedia...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still waiting for Persona CPS&#8230; still waiting&#8230; waiting&#8230; waiting&#8230;</p>
<p>Relaku menunggu mu, 1000 tahun lama lagi,<br />
Tapi benarkah hidup, aku akan selama ini, yeahhh,<br />
Biar berputar, utara selatan,<br />
Ku tak putus harapan, setia sedia&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gie7</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188047</link>
		<dc:creator>gie7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 04:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>satu berita gembira bagi aku..hehe...sorilah kawan...rambut sama hitam, hati lain...aku memang tak suka dengan syed zainal ni...aku start tak suka kat dia bila dia mengurangkan kos r n d...ni syarikat kereta bang..camne nak hidup kalau r n d tak berapa nak jalan...penjualan mv agusta pun dia skong..baguslah tu...sape kata tengku mahaleel nak jual lotus...tuk pengetahuan, allahyarham tan sri yahya, bekas pemegang syer terbesar proton telah meminta pandangan tengku mahaleel masa nak beli lotus...dia adalah orang yang buat kita yakin dengan kita sendiri...tak sampai 5 tahun dia dalam proton, proton bukan sahaja buat kereta sendiri tapi buat enjin sendiri...fakta atau auta..cek sendiri...tengku mahaleel juga telah kuarkan mpv n kereta sport..tapi cek balik sape yang batalkan n rebadge kepada lotus...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>satu berita gembira bagi aku..hehe&#8230;sorilah kawan&#8230;rambut sama hitam, hati lain&#8230;aku memang tak suka dengan syed zainal ni&#8230;aku start tak suka kat dia bila dia mengurangkan kos r n d&#8230;ni syarikat kereta bang..camne nak hidup kalau r n d tak berapa nak jalan&#8230;penjualan mv agusta pun dia skong..baguslah tu&#8230;sape kata tengku mahaleel nak jual lotus&#8230;tuk pengetahuan, allahyarham tan sri yahya, bekas pemegang syer terbesar proton telah meminta pandangan tengku mahaleel masa nak beli lotus&#8230;dia adalah orang yang buat kita yakin dengan kita sendiri&#8230;tak sampai 5 tahun dia dalam proton, proton bukan sahaja buat kereta sendiri tapi buat enjin sendiri&#8230;fakta atau auta..cek sendiri&#8230;tengku mahaleel juga telah kuarkan mpv n kereta sport..tapi cek balik sape yang batalkan n rebadge kepada lotus&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nakal</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188046</link>
		<dc:creator>Nakal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 04:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>paul...no new topic today? i believe this not about whiteeye kan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paul&#8230;no new topic today? i believe this not about whiteeye kan?</p>
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		<title>By: rufus-x</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188044</link>
		<dc:creator>rufus-x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 04:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes yes..true..
n i believe that proton shud be in the right direction to achieve that kind of technology soon enough..with the help of lotus and all the techs outside from all other carmakers, make a good example out of them..(i dont hear proton buying other carmakers car before this but now they got lots of mules to make an example for - shud done that 10yrs before rite) proton shud be able to produce such engine in no time.. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes yes..true..<br />
n i believe that proton shud be in the right direction to achieve that kind of technology soon enough..with the help of lotus and all the techs outside from all other carmakers, make a good example out of them..(i dont hear proton buying other carmakers car before this but now they got lots of mules to make an example for &#8211; shud done that 10yrs before rite) proton shud be able to produce such engine in no time.. <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: awak</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188041</link>
		<dc:creator>awak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rufus-x:
campro cps is good,
but very very good if campro vvt+cps, this is as good i-vtech or vvtL-i,
at this point, why pay 10thousand or 20thousand more for other makes since we can buy proton cheaper, with the same engine capability ,long legged economy and power spritely,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rufus-x:<br />
campro cps is good,<br />
but very very good if campro vvt+cps, this is as good i-vtech or vvtL-i,<br />
at this point, why pay 10thousand or 20thousand more for other makes since we can buy proton cheaper, with the same engine capability ,long legged economy and power spritely,</p>
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		<title>By: awak</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188040</link>
		<dc:creator>awak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rufus-x:
campro cps is good,
but very very good if campro vvt+cps, this is as good i-vtech or vvtL-i,
at this point, why pay 10thousand or 20thousand more for other makes since we can buy proton cheaper, with the same engine capability</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rufus-x:<br />
campro cps is good,<br />
but very very good if campro vvt+cps, this is as good i-vtech or vvtL-i,<br />
at this point, why pay 10thousand or 20thousand more for other makes since we can buy proton cheaper, with the same engine capability</p>
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		<title>By: rufus-x</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188037</link>
		<dc:creator>rufus-x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awak :
agreed wif u..
since our campro engine have completed (the cps version), now only i have interest in proton.. ;p
i believe much can be done to perfect the engine even more..
i&#039;m waiting for the neo cps
screw the quality issues tho..i dont drive for comfort anyways..haha


p/s: if want comfort driving, get a driver to drive for u laa..then oni u can sleep in the car..now thats comfort...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awak :<br />
agreed wif u..<br />
since our campro engine have completed (the cps version), now only i have interest in proton.. ;p<br />
i believe much can be done to perfect the engine even more..<br />
i&#8217;m waiting for the neo cps<br />
screw the quality issues tho..i dont drive for comfort anyways..haha</p>
<p>p/s: if want comfort driving, get a driver to drive for u laa..then oni u can sleep in the car..now thats comfort&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cikaput</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188034</link>
		<dc:creator>Cikaput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imation said,

November 12, 2008 @ 4:25 pm 

Thank god he’s leaving…..if only u guys knew whats goin’ on inside the company, u’ll wish the same thing too!!!!! Damn too many hanky panky….even with “Haji” title cannot assure ur virtue
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haha imation.. i wish they all knew it too.. but the real problems is not about DSZ, i really had no problem with him. the problem is the people he brought in.. most of them are useless.. hold a high position but dumb. expecially people from pe****a... by the way, i guess i know which haji u talking about hahaha..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imation said,</p>
<p>November 12, 2008 @ 4:25 pm </p>
<p>Thank god he’s leaving…..if only u guys knew whats goin’ on inside the company, u’ll wish the same thing too!!!!! Damn too many hanky panky….even with “Haji” title cannot assure ur virtue<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>haha imation.. i wish they all knew it too.. but the real problems is not about DSZ, i really had no problem with him. the problem is the people he brought in.. most of them are useless.. hold a high position but dumb. expecially people from pe****a&#8230; by the way, i guess i know which haji u talking about hahaha..</p>
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		<title>By: Automotive_Critics</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/11/12/sources-syed-zainal-may-leave-when-contract-ends/#comment-188028</link>
		<dc:creator>Automotive_Critics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys..if DSZ deserves leaving proton..then just let him go..he might have other personal interest to be settled..still a few candidates out there are having similar capability to him..but not likely from DRB man...DRB is a company that never think responsibility..just thinking Big Profit with extreme low cost and lousy quality..proton already gone through hard time under the DRB management..just to recall Tiara project..the worst fit and finish car but overpriced..even kancil had better fit and finish..

Years later after withdrawal from proton..again they sucking money through Honda in Alor Gajah..according to  a friend relative, most of the employee are working inhumane there with no responsibility from management at all..quality is so-so because it is Honda..remind again..this is DRB in the actual picture..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys..if DSZ deserves leaving proton..then just let him go..he might have other personal interest to be settled..still a few candidates out there are having similar capability to him..but not likely from DRB man&#8230;DRB is a company that never think responsibility..just thinking Big Profit with extreme low cost and lousy quality..proton already gone through hard time under the DRB management..just to recall Tiara project..the worst fit and finish car but overpriced..even kancil had better fit and finish..</p>
<p>Years later after withdrawal from proton..again they sucking money through Honda in Alor Gajah..according to  a friend relative, most of the employee are working inhumane there with no responsibility from management at all..quality is so-so because it is Honda..remind again..this is DRB in the actual picture..</p>
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