so whats the problem?…

cheap? not up to highest standard?.proton take proper measure fot that,,,,
in progress,

November 21, 2008 @ 9:04 am

whiteeye live in their own world. he/she wouldn’t want to read and understand your fact btw.. So don’t feel frust and regret later beacause he-she will reject all you point no matter what. So don’t to educate him/her because it’s useless..
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Just the fact keep protecting Proton and giving excuses, you really good work man bmpower i’m sure you will be next deputy PM, Congratulation.

November 22, 2008 @ 12:16 am

whiteeye..dont be so emotional..calm down..its all about bussiness, your comments here show that u err stupid? or really u r? haha…
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What a good business, no wonder Proton under you guys baby bottle still the same ideology. How to critic a person if the persona already stupid. Lame can u give more than this kind of critic, just follow people’s critic and simply say say . LAME MAN, additional for you NAIVE!

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Prem3377 said,
its a patnership…if proton is no good…why europestar what to use proton to sell as a product in their country???

(Wat a joke, if Proton is good y need to use other logo, you think Proton don’t want to earn as much as they can, is just that they can’t)

they buy proton to market as their own product like how perodua by toyota passo to sell as their product since they are not capable of producing their own product..unlike proton or toyota who are capable of producing their own produce!!!

( if Malaysia use Toyota Passo to sell than Perodua Myvi sell what? If under Toyota sure expensive just that they want to sell to Malaysian more cheaper and rmb Toyota and Perodua is joint venture lol, so where can sell 2 car’s in the same time?)

if you still dont get it..you da dumbest person on earth!!i seriously mean it!!!!
and stop being rude to others…cause others can be rude to you too!!!

( just that u guy’s did not want to accept the reality, i m not being rude, i just tell you what wikipedia told)
Can u check 1st ar? Lame man.

Since both of you agree than leave it to u, nvr mind since you so protective to Proton.

1, Its not scared is just a joint venture company between Malaysian and Japanese partners, if Malaysian able to buy cars straight away from Daihatsu and Toyota, y need to make cheaper car to Malaysian? In Hong Kong there are no Perodua Kenari but Daihatsu Move.

2, another same question, Based on technology and parts from Mitsubishi Motors, production of the first model, the Proton Saga began in September 1985 at its first manufacturing plant in Shah Alam, Selangor. Initially the components of the car were entirely manufactured by Mitsubishi but slowly local parts were being used as technologies were transferred and skills were gained. Do you still need the answer, who are using whose technology?

3, Scared wat, if you want to c Skoda on the road is very seldom even the car they will never sell the same car’s in 2 brand. and for your info Volkswagen of Germany moved in, first buying 30 percent of Skoda then buying the lot. New factories have been built. The Skoda production plant outside Prague is larger than Monaco. New investment in engine plants, production and research and development all helped produce the Octavia, Fabia and Superb models.The results are now clear to see. Skoda has clawed back nearly half the car market in the Czech Republic and now exports 80 percent of its production to neighboring European countries. The company has even won various awards for its newest models, which car experts say speaks volumes for the improvement in performance.
Means VW saved Skoda is different from Europestar branding in other companies logo.

“WOW!!! so many ppl buy dugong, i also want!!!”

“WAHHH!!! all my neighbours got Merc and BMW, i drive VW and Audi, so malu, no face to see them”

wtf…………..

anyway the latest city doesnt use 7 speed CVT transmission but uses 5 speed auto..

if zero to hundred i guess gen2 cps will win cause campro has better acceleration compared to honda’s engine..but dunno how city’s transmission ratio!!

city would be better than gen2 cps cause of FC..but since gen2 cps has upgrade interior matching persona plus leather seats..i feel gen2 cps will give city a tough time..tats on paper of course!!

in Malaysia..people are too concern about brand than spec..so city will always have a upper hand!!so no point comparing also!!haha

you have started crapping again i guess…

just answer my questions..

1. why toyota uses perodua logo to sell their passo in Malaysia??scared ar??

2.why mitsubishi used proton to sell thier cars early 1990s??scared to use their own image ar??

3.why volkswagen uses skoda logo to sell their car??no confident of their image is it??

4. why renault uses nissan logo to sell their cars in malaysia??no confident ar??

its a patnership…if proton is no good…why europestar what to use proton to sell as a product in their country???

they buy proton to market as their own product like how perodua by toyota passo to sell as their product since they are not capable of producing their own product..unlike proton or toyota who are capable of producing their own produce!!!

if you still dont get it..you da dumbest person on earth!!i seriously mean it!!!!

and stop being rude to others…cause others can be rude to you too!!!

November 21, 2008 @ 3:37 pm

@mister benjo:

Gen 2 cps is 1.6, city only 1.5.

But you are right, is all apples and oranges. But if you gve me choice between picking city i-VTEC and the ugly as hell with cheapass interior Gen 2 CPS, money no object, I know which 1 i rather buy.

Apparently, so too do most malaysians, which is why city sales >>> Gen 2 sales, despite City being more expensive. LOL.

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u agree with @mister benjo: it was 1.6 and 1.5 also it all apples and orange..
they why u still compare both sales? Compare la that 1.6 gen2 with other 1.6 cars and 1.5 city with other 1.5 cars…

Gen 2 cps is 1.6, city only 1.5.

But you are right, is all apples and oranges. But if you gve me choice between picking city i-VTEC and the ugly as hell with cheapass interior Gen 2 CPS, money no object, I know which 1 i rather buy.

Apparently, so too do most malaysians, which is why city sales >>> Gen 2 sales, despite City being more expensive. LOL.

Gen2 CPS is 125BHP la my fren,everybody knows that.your example also comparing apples to orange,i never know city got great handling to race with Gen2 CPS
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MisterBenjo..you fact is true..but you need to consider the engine capacity, transmission and race condition..city is 1.5l with auto transmission..i believe if it is compared with Gen2 Cps manual it can be easily outperformed by Gen2 no matter in the start or top..but since the City is auto..the correct comparison should be with Gen2 auto one (eventhough city is lesser in engine capacity)..In this case, the city will surely outperform gen2 no matter in the start or top speed..because u know..the gen2 4speed mitsu auto mission is not smooth as city 7 speed CVT..

November 21, 2008 @ 11:42 am

Persona is an ugly car, no doubt about it. I doubt it is doing as well as some blind P1 supporters claim. After all, no NAP protection there.

@bmpower:

“Fyi.. Jazz vs Gen-2 CPS , gen2 cps can smoked jazz what?”

Errr………this is a dumb comparison – like comparing apples to orange. Your lovely Gen-2 CPS can beat the new City iVTEC or not? 110 hp vs 120 hp?

Not to mention in LOTS of other factors other than speed Gen-2 is still a piece of junk. Looks? Comfort? Safety features (Malaysian spec ah, dun tell me about the Euro-version)? All crap.

Can’t believe P1 still sell dare sell this piece of junk to Malaysian. Whatacrap.

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Gen2 CPS is 125BHP la my fren,everybody knows that.your example also comparing apples to orange,i never know city got great handling to race with Gen2 CPS

If Proton promote this kind of way to people in China, they just will recognize Europestar or Lotus but not Proton. How the world Proton want to be recognize by international level. Simple just like Honda, Toyota or Mercedes why that they did not change name as Youngman had done they might push their brand more higher.
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Whiteeye..why do you so concern about name?..it is a normal practice everywhere..mercedes did not change name is not true..the mercedes is rebadged to ssangyong in the south korea..it is mercedes engine inside the ssangyong..it does proton also in china market..it just marketing strategy..

i didnt mention names, what makes you think that my comment is meant specifically for you?

and guys..

youngman using dubious marketing strategy and why proton get the blame?

someone may say “Jazz is a f*********ing ugly car, no matter what and no doubt about it….”

@bmpower:

“Fyi.. Jazz vs Gen-2 CPS , gen2 cps can smoked jazz what?”

Errr………this is a dumb comparison – like comparing apples to orange. Your lovely Gen-2 CPS can beat the new City iVTEC or not? 110 hp vs 120 hp?

Not to mention in LOTS of other factors other than speed Gen-2 is still a piece of junk. Looks? Comfort? Safety features (Malaysian spec ah, dun tell me about the Euro-version)? All crap.

Can’t believe P1 still sell dare sell this piece of junk to Malaysian. Whatacrap.