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	<title>Comments on: Fuel price cut tonight: 10 sen for all fuels</title>
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		<title>By: ALPINA Burkard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-193823</link>
		<dc:creator>ALPINA Burkard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>overthrow the government, we go shut down klia , sungai besi airport and subang airport</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>overthrow the government, we go shut down klia , sungai besi airport and subang airport</p>
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		<title>By: autojohndoe</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192967</link>
		<dc:creator>autojohndoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>send ur comment to &quot;warkah untuk pm site&quot;.... then pak lah will know.... huhu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>send ur comment to &#8220;warkah untuk pm site&#8221;&#8230;. then pak lah will know&#8230;. huhu</p>
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		<title>By: BrakeFader</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192958</link>
		<dc:creator>BrakeFader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could not count the number of times when the government tries to hike the fuel price, they would say that the extra savings or revenue will be channeled into public transport. We saw the announcements of new LRT lines around KL, but is there REALLY any progress on this? Until now there is no pilling works or announcement of its status? 

So it is natural for us not to believe the government that they will put this new TAX revenue into good use for public transport. Perhaps the submarines and Badawi&#039;s net jet is our Public Transport - &quot;Transport&quot; paid by the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could not count the number of times when the government tries to hike the fuel price, they would say that the extra savings or revenue will be channeled into public transport. We saw the announcements of new LRT lines around KL, but is there REALLY any progress on this? Until now there is no pilling works or announcement of its status? </p>
<p>So it is natural for us not to believe the government that they will put this new TAX revenue into good use for public transport. Perhaps the submarines and Badawi&#8217;s net jet is our Public Transport &#8211; &#8220;Transport&#8221; paid by the public.</p>
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		<title>By: osh_kosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>osh_kosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s my point.. i would not mind if extra cash given to G really go to good causes... but this G has shown over &amp; over again that our money used for shitty project.. send orang utan to space.. pay female polar bear just to take a walk on north &amp; south pole... asked stupid Rempit monkeys to make a jump at north pole... buying crappy submarines.. used our hard earn money to pay consultant coz put a hand brake on singapore bridge project... ex-gratia payment for judges... blablablabla....

i can&#039;t name anything that can benefit us in general.. the &#039;ikan bilis&#039; rakyat... &amp; some ppl here asked us to be a little gratefull &amp; heartwilling to give our beloved G some extra buck... pathetic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s my point.. i would not mind if extra cash given to G really go to good causes&#8230; but this G has shown over &amp; over again that our money used for shitty project.. send orang utan to space.. pay female polar bear just to take a walk on north &amp; south pole&#8230; asked stupid Rempit monkeys to make a jump at north pole&#8230; buying crappy submarines.. used our hard earn money to pay consultant coz put a hand brake on singapore bridge project&#8230; ex-gratia payment for judges&#8230; blablablabla&#8230;.</p>
<p>i can&#8217;t name anything that can benefit us in general.. the &#8216;ikan bilis&#8217; rakyat&#8230; &amp; some ppl here asked us to be a little gratefull &amp; heartwilling to give our beloved G some extra buck&#8230; pathetic&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ALPINA Burkard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ALPINA Burkard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>db8 said,

December 5, 2008 @ 1:56 am

if we have a government like in sweden or norway,i’ll be happy to pay even the fuel price isrm4/liter..now with our G,even rm1/liter i feel doubt to pay..reason? corruption and cronies..simple as that.
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bn sucks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>db8 said,</p>
<p>December 5, 2008 @ 1:56 am</p>
<p>if we have a government like in sweden or norway,i’ll be happy to pay even the fuel price isrm4/liter..now with our G,even rm1/liter i feel doubt to pay..reason? corruption and cronies..simple as that.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
bn sucks</p>
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		<title>By: db8</title>
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		<dc:creator>db8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if we have a government like in sweden or norway,i&#039;ll be happy to pay even the fuel price isrm4/liter..now with our G,even rm1/liter i feel doubt to pay..reason? corruption and cronies..simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if we have a government like in sweden or norway,i&#8217;ll be happy to pay even the fuel price isrm4/liter..now with our G,even rm1/liter i feel doubt to pay..reason? corruption and cronies..simple as that.</p>
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		<title>By: autojohndoe</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192707</link>
		<dc:creator>autojohndoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but, sometimes, i feel sorry for some new Pump station owner...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but, sometimes, i feel sorry for some new Pump station owner&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: calvinfoo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192693</link>
		<dc:creator>calvinfoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tiadaid said: That money should be put to better use than to subsidize our fuel consumption.  That money could be saved to be used for future governments to further develop the country…

tiadaid, I fully agree with you.  the gov should spend the money wisely, like spend another US$1billion to send an Orang Utan to the Space Station, then come back to tell bedtime stories; Spend another US$1 billon to buy a few more used French submarines without inspection water leakage (which can be fixed easily with silicon gel); and setup a few more companies to give advice on how goverment to should buy submarine and charge US$5 million as consultation fee for each submarines; or fix the parliment leaking roof top with few millions of RM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tiadaid said: That money should be put to better use than to subsidize our fuel consumption.  That money could be saved to be used for future governments to further develop the country…</p>
<p>tiadaid, I fully agree with you.  the gov should spend the money wisely, like spend another US$1billion to send an Orang Utan to the Space Station, then come back to tell bedtime stories; Spend another US$1 billon to buy a few more used French submarines without inspection water leakage (which can be fixed easily with silicon gel); and setup a few more companies to give advice on how goverment to should buy submarine and charge US$5 million as consultation fee for each submarines; or fix the parliment leaking roof top with few millions of RM.</p>
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		<title>By: autojohndoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>autojohndoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the word form Penang cm mybe just to win the heart of the ppl... then the Rakyat will say &quot;see, even the penang cm says it&quot;...

maybe it is because he do not really see how the whole system works because he is not running the whole country in every aspect... maybe when he get  a hold of the top position, the action that he takes is the same... just my assumption...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the word form Penang cm mybe just to win the heart of the ppl&#8230; then the Rakyat will say &#8220;see, even the penang cm says it&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>maybe it is because he do not really see how the whole system works because he is not running the whole country in every aspect&#8230; maybe when he get  a hold of the top position, the action that he takes is the same&#8230; just my assumption&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: biggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>biggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes the money from taxed from me at the pumps ensure that factory do not close down during the recession period, then I&#039;m ok (not for long - I have news that many SME have to close down for good and MNC downsizing soon -even after govt. subsidy to them). But as long schools , hospitals and infrastructure been built and maintain then I&#039;m contented.

give me a net exporter country that have a vibrant economy as ours? In most net exporter countries if you don&#039;t work in oil industry then you are nothing. Here anyone can get rich on any business.

However being in a vibrant economy then fuel subsidies are stretched further as most ppl here have the ability to use cars. More transport companies to transport goods and people. More factories that consume energy. So do we need to keep on subsidizing? 

Current trend when the price of oil go up, govt subsidize up to a point that it can sustain then inch up a bit with some subsidy. When the price go down some income to the govt. Its fair for me.

Price of goods should not be controlled by the govt as ours is a free country. Else we can live in a communist like country where goods can only be bought from govt. own stores at fix price. You want that?

What the govt is doing is continouos campaign for lowering good price (Good). Twist the arm of some hypermarket to reduce good (against free market policy). But how many arms the G need to twist to get all prices down?

The Penang govt. want the 38cent surplus as much as the current govt. want. The statement is just political statements that come out of any politician. Pure bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes the money from taxed from me at the pumps ensure that factory do not close down during the recession period, then I&#8217;m ok (not for long &#8211; I have news that many SME have to close down for good and MNC downsizing soon -even after govt. subsidy to them). But as long schools , hospitals and infrastructure been built and maintain then I&#8217;m contented.</p>
<p>give me a net exporter country that have a vibrant economy as ours? In most net exporter countries if you don&#8217;t work in oil industry then you are nothing. Here anyone can get rich on any business.</p>
<p>However being in a vibrant economy then fuel subsidies are stretched further as most ppl here have the ability to use cars. More transport companies to transport goods and people. More factories that consume energy. So do we need to keep on subsidizing? </p>
<p>Current trend when the price of oil go up, govt subsidize up to a point that it can sustain then inch up a bit with some subsidy. When the price go down some income to the govt. Its fair for me.</p>
<p>Price of goods should not be controlled by the govt as ours is a free country. Else we can live in a communist like country where goods can only be bought from govt. own stores at fix price. You want that?</p>
<p>What the govt is doing is continouos campaign for lowering good price (Good). Twist the arm of some hypermarket to reduce good (against free market policy). But how many arms the G need to twist to get all prices down?</p>
<p>The Penang govt. want the 38cent surplus as much as the current govt. want. The statement is just political statements that come out of any politician. Pure bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mavmanuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavmanuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm... miss durians, but they are now 20bucks a fruit la... dammit!

BrakeFader, 
you got my vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm&#8230; miss durians, but they are now 20bucks a fruit la&#8230; dammit!</p>
<p>BrakeFader,<br />
you got my vote.</p>
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		<title>By: BrakeFader</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192599</link>
		<dc:creator>BrakeFader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve already point out the calculation on how we got the price at the pump. Doesn&#039;t that spell out that the government is trying to make extra bucks from me and you? To add more salt to the would, we are also paying extra taxes for cars to protect our local car industry. Firstly why did our petrol price hiked up when we are an oil producer? Global price shouldn&#039;t affect what&#039;s going on at our back yard where oil is flowing. The subsidy used in our fuel context is the so called lost opportunity to sell fuel at higher price. 

Its like you grow durian behind your house. Cost you rm3 to grow one. And outside selling rm10 per piece. With that you would tell your family that you are subsidizing rm7 each cos that&#039;s a loss when you could make money selling to other people instead for own domestic use. Crazy? That&#039;s what happening now. How can you talk about subsidy for fuel in a fuel producing country? This is bull.

Today penang cm also said that we should be paying 1.52 instead of 1.90 which means govt is earning 38sen per litre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve already point out the calculation on how we got the price at the pump. Doesn&#8217;t that spell out that the government is trying to make extra bucks from me and you? To add more salt to the would, we are also paying extra taxes for cars to protect our local car industry. Firstly why did our petrol price hiked up when we are an oil producer? Global price shouldn&#8217;t affect what&#8217;s going on at our back yard where oil is flowing. The subsidy used in our fuel context is the so called lost opportunity to sell fuel at higher price. </p>
<p>Its like you grow durian behind your house. Cost you rm3 to grow one. And outside selling rm10 per piece. With that you would tell your family that you are subsidizing rm7 each cos that&#8217;s a loss when you could make money selling to other people instead for own domestic use. Crazy? That&#8217;s what happening now. How can you talk about subsidy for fuel in a fuel producing country? This is bull.</p>
<p>Today penang cm also said that we should be paying 1.52 instead of 1.90 which means govt is earning 38sen per litre.</p>
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		<title>By: altis_fan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192555</link>
		<dc:creator>altis_fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The G will not reduce the price to its market price because it already give us
rebate of RM625. So, I made simple calculation based on my current usage of 150liter/month. When G sets price of RM1.90,  after substract RM625/year, I actually pay RM1.55/liter; which is equal to market current price. Very smart G we have ya?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The G will not reduce the price to its market price because it already give us<br />
rebate of RM625. So, I made simple calculation based on my current usage of 150liter/month. When G sets price of RM1.90,  after substract RM625/year, I actually pay RM1.55/liter; which is equal to market current price. Very smart G we have ya?</p>
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		<title>By: Wisdom</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192549</link>
		<dc:creator>Wisdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as we litter while driving, did&#039;nt use signal at intersections, road hogging &amp; always talk bad about others, we will stay like this. Change in our country starts within ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as we litter while driving, did&#8217;nt use signal at intersections, road hogging &amp; always talk bad about others, we will stay like this. Change in our country starts within ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: dodgeviper88</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192541</link>
		<dc:creator>dodgeviper88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If our standard of living is improved tremendously, have transparent policies, decent public transportation and most importantly a government that prioritize ALL citizens then I&#039;m pretty sure most people including myself wouldn&#039;t mind paying RM1.90/liter. The problem is that we are nowhere near those items stated above and yet we pay more than the developed countries. So while our complaints might be specifically about petrol, it is more than just that. Basically we&#039;re complaining how screwed up the G works in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If our standard of living is improved tremendously, have transparent policies, decent public transportation and most importantly a government that prioritize ALL citizens then I&#8217;m pretty sure most people including myself wouldn&#8217;t mind paying RM1.90/liter. The problem is that we are nowhere near those items stated above and yet we pay more than the developed countries. So while our complaints might be specifically about petrol, it is more than just that. Basically we&#8217;re complaining how screwed up the G works in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: wuttaheck</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192539</link>
		<dc:creator>wuttaheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i myself dont know how to calculate the actual amount we should pay excluding the subsidy. Unless there is reliable published margin taken by oil companies, i strongly believe that we should stop speculating...
maybe BrakeFader can provide it so that all these math genius can work it out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i myself dont know how to calculate the actual amount we should pay excluding the subsidy. Unless there is reliable published margin taken by oil companies, i strongly believe that we should stop speculating&#8230;<br />
maybe BrakeFader can provide it so that all these math genius can work it out?</p>
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		<title>By: TheDuck</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192530</link>
		<dc:creator>TheDuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE LOWER the FUEL PRICES!!

The most EFFICIENT way to distribute the NEW found wealth is by continuously lowering the fuel prices. The current state of our G is so bad that all the surplus money made is heading for ridiculous schemes and corruptted Gov. Officials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE LOWER the FUEL PRICES!!</p>
<p>The most EFFICIENT way to distribute the NEW found wealth is by continuously lowering the fuel prices. The current state of our G is so bad that all the surplus money made is heading for ridiculous schemes and corruptted Gov. Officials.</p>
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		<title>By: tiadaid</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192526</link>
		<dc:creator>tiadaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah we may be net oil exporter, but what about the times when the government have to pay the difference between the market price and the subsidized price (Before the 2.70 rise, of course)? That money should be put to better use than to subsidize our fuel consumption. And forget the fact that the government is not transparent or what. Don&#039;t think short term, but think long term. That money could be saved to be used for future governments to further develop the country...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah we may be net oil exporter, but what about the times when the government have to pay the difference between the market price and the subsidized price (Before the 2.70 rise, of course)? That money should be put to better use than to subsidize our fuel consumption. And forget the fact that the government is not transparent or what. Don&#8217;t think short term, but think long term. That money could be saved to be used for future governments to further develop the country&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BrakeFader</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192523</link>
		<dc:creator>BrakeFader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wuttaheck, are you implying that are fuel price is too low and government is still subsidizing? here&#039;s a quote from shahril when the price was RM2.00

“After the station operators take their margin of 12.1sen and the oil companies take their margin of 19.1sen, we are left with RM1.69 from RM2.

“If the refinery price is RM1.30 per litre for example, the Government will be taking 39sen per litre as revenue.”

RM2.00 = RM1.30 price from refinery + 12 sen station + 19 sen oil company + 39 sen from you and me


So please enlighten us that people don&#039;t know how to count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wuttaheck, are you implying that are fuel price is too low and government is still subsidizing? here&#8217;s a quote from shahril when the price was RM2.00</p>
<p>“After the station operators take their margin of 12.1sen and the oil companies take their margin of 19.1sen, we are left with RM1.69 from RM2.</p>
<p>“If the refinery price is RM1.30 per litre for example, the Government will be taking 39sen per litre as revenue.”</p>
<p>RM2.00 = RM1.30 price from refinery + 12 sen station + 19 sen oil company + 39 sen from you and me</p>
<p>So please enlighten us that people don&#8217;t know how to count.</p>
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		<title>By: osh_kosh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192520</link>
		<dc:creator>osh_kosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just can&#039;t understand why me must pay extra for fuel... pay tax to G for fuel? why? we are OIL NET EXPORTER country &amp; if those Amaricans can pay less for their fuel then why not us? G want to save some money &amp; use it for something better? frankly speeking, i don&#039;t trust this G &amp; their management skills... i</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just can&#8217;t understand why me must pay extra for fuel&#8230; pay tax to G for fuel? why? we are OIL NET EXPORTER country &amp; if those Amaricans can pay less for their fuel then why not us? G want to save some money &amp; use it for something better? frankly speeking, i don&#8217;t trust this G &amp; their management skills&#8230; i</p>
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		<title>By: wuttaheck</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192509</link>
		<dc:creator>wuttaheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LogicallyMad, u r damn right. I&#039;m wondering why some people in this thread keep on showing how good his/her math is by showing his/her calculation...i believe i&#039;ve read in previous thread someone (im just too lazy to browse) already clarify this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LogicallyMad, u r damn right. I&#8217;m wondering why some people in this thread keep on showing how good his/her math is by showing his/her calculation&#8230;i believe i&#8217;ve read in previous thread someone (im just too lazy to browse) already clarify this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: corollaaltis</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192496</link>
		<dc:creator>corollaaltis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dogster said,
December 2, 2008 @ 11:30 pm 

YAHOOOO!!!. Its back to V-POWER FOR ME!!!
—————————————————————-
How much is V-Power per litre??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dogster said,<br />
December 2, 2008 @ 11:30 pm </p>
<p>YAHOOOO!!!. Its back to V-POWER FOR ME!!!<br />
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How much is V-Power per litre??</p>
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		<title>By: corollaaltis</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192495</link>
		<dc:creator>corollaaltis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dogster said,
December 2, 2008 @ 11:30 pm 

YAHOOOO!!!. Its back to V-POWER FOR ME!!!
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How muh is V-Power per litre??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dogster said,<br />
December 2, 2008 @ 11:30 pm </p>
<p>YAHOOOO!!!. Its back to V-POWER FOR ME!!!<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
How muh is V-Power per litre??</p>
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		<title>By: BrakeFader</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192493</link>
		<dc:creator>BrakeFader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Logically mad, most of us are aware that we are not calculating direct from barrel price. The dear minister already admitted middle of last month saying that the government is ENJOYING extra revenue from the current petrol price.  Today we are paying more RM per litre compared to americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Logically mad, most of us are aware that we are not calculating direct from barrel price. The dear minister already admitted middle of last month saying that the government is ENJOYING extra revenue from the current petrol price.  Today we are paying more RM per litre compared to americans.</p>
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		<title>By: kemosabe</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192462</link>
		<dc:creator>kemosabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The environment we live in is very much &quot;artificial&quot;. 
The government has a hand in almost everything in this country especially in the business sector. 
To have fuel priced above market value is one thing but to have car prices high(relative to average salary) as well is like depriving people of a necessity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The environment we live in is very much &#8220;artificial&#8221;.<br />
The government has a hand in almost everything in this country especially in the business sector.<br />
To have fuel priced above market value is one thing but to have car prices high(relative to average salary) as well is like depriving people of a necessity.</p>
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		<title>By: ALPINA Burkard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192455</link>
		<dc:creator>ALPINA Burkard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CHEAPER CHEAPER</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CHEAPER CHEAPER</p>
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		<title>By: LogicallyMad</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192454</link>
		<dc:creator>LogicallyMad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct me if i&#039;m wrong...

Crude oil prices means unprocessed oil right? If 40 or 50 dollars a barrel for crude oil prices now, isn&#039;t it wrong to just calculate the oil prices sold in petrol station using that price?? You need to add the cost of refining it, transportation costs, taxes etc.... isn&#039;t that is what contributing to the oil prices that we have to pay now???

just my 2 cents..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct me if i&#8217;m wrong&#8230;</p>
<p>Crude oil prices means unprocessed oil right? If 40 or 50 dollars a barrel for crude oil prices now, isn&#8217;t it wrong to just calculate the oil prices sold in petrol station using that price?? You need to add the cost of refining it, transportation costs, taxes etc&#8230;. isn&#8217;t that is what contributing to the oil prices that we have to pay now???</p>
<p>just my 2 cents..</p>
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		<title>By: LogicallyMad</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192453</link>
		<dc:creator>LogicallyMad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; At one end they dont have a pro foreign investment policies with lengthy procedures to follow so how do they expect we can keep paying what they demanded from us? Like the wave of opportunites in foreign car manufacturing/assembly plants to setup locally was a miss by our government to only know how to protect our local car manufacturer or in reality, the few suppliers behind it. Why cant it be done? We can allow them to setup plants here with strict environmental controls to ensure they wont pollute the country while applying sales taxes to offset the lost in import duties. Restricting these foreign car manufacturers to only buy parts from the few suppliers locally is totally unwise so as demanding the board to be stuffed with imcompetent/irrelevant local ppl. Of all these minority interests in mind, who’s the majority suffering?&quot;

Aiyya... oil prices high Proton got blamed also ka???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; At one end they dont have a pro foreign investment policies with lengthy procedures to follow so how do they expect we can keep paying what they demanded from us? Like the wave of opportunites in foreign car manufacturing/assembly plants to setup locally was a miss by our government to only know how to protect our local car manufacturer or in reality, the few suppliers behind it. Why cant it be done? We can allow them to setup plants here with strict environmental controls to ensure they wont pollute the country while applying sales taxes to offset the lost in import duties. Restricting these foreign car manufacturers to only buy parts from the few suppliers locally is totally unwise so as demanding the board to be stuffed with imcompetent/irrelevant local ppl. Of all these minority interests in mind, who’s the majority suffering?&#8221;</p>
<p>Aiyya&#8230; oil prices high Proton got blamed also ka???</p>
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		<title>By: SY0H</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192449</link>
		<dc:creator>SY0H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hai there,

As usual drama-politicking in Paul.Tan.Org will always lure more hits!

Anyways, with regards to fuel dropping decisions, it must have some kind of financial analysis and risk assessment done beforehand. In economist point of view, if fuel price drops lower than RM30/per barrel, majority people will be out of jobs. 

This is because fuel is considered as &#039;neccessity commodity&#039; that empowers the world market. The preferable fuel price should be ranging in between RM50 ~ RM 70 per barrel (this is what some economist claim). If the price is too cheap or too expensive, the economy will still suffer in whole. If fuel is getting too cheap, many people will be out of jobs (this could be easily explained using &quot;supply and demand theory&quot;). Giant oil and gas companies will have to retrench a lot of workers. Engineers, technicians, mathematicians, geologist and etc. will be out of jobs as demand gets low and low (as price gets cheaper and cheaper). Not to mention, support businesses which is directly or indirectly tied up with &#039;em will suffer as well. We are talking on individuals who are actually &#039;breadwinners&#039; of the family losing jobs. 

In oil and gas industry, there are many players behind the big &#039;curtain&#039;. We have the OPEC (the Pak Arabs), the speculators, Multinational Oil and Gas Companies (Shell, Petronas, Exxon-Mobil), Government Policies, the Consumers and etc. in which everybody will have their very own role to play and these roles can affect on each other as well.

Cheaper fuel may not really be a good idea...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hai there,</p>
<p>As usual drama-politicking in Paul.Tan.Org will always lure more hits!</p>
<p>Anyways, with regards to fuel dropping decisions, it must have some kind of financial analysis and risk assessment done beforehand. In economist point of view, if fuel price drops lower than RM30/per barrel, majority people will be out of jobs. </p>
<p>This is because fuel is considered as &#8216;neccessity commodity&#8217; that empowers the world market. The preferable fuel price should be ranging in between RM50 ~ RM 70 per barrel (this is what some economist claim). If the price is too cheap or too expensive, the economy will still suffer in whole. If fuel is getting too cheap, many people will be out of jobs (this could be easily explained using &#8220;supply and demand theory&#8221;). Giant oil and gas companies will have to retrench a lot of workers. Engineers, technicians, mathematicians, geologist and etc. will be out of jobs as demand gets low and low (as price gets cheaper and cheaper). Not to mention, support businesses which is directly or indirectly tied up with &#8216;em will suffer as well. We are talking on individuals who are actually &#8216;breadwinners&#8217; of the family losing jobs. </p>
<p>In oil and gas industry, there are many players behind the big &#8216;curtain&#8217;. We have the OPEC (the Pak Arabs), the speculators, Multinational Oil and Gas Companies (Shell, Petronas, Exxon-Mobil), Government Policies, the Consumers and etc. in which everybody will have their very own role to play and these roles can affect on each other as well.</p>
<p>Cheaper fuel may not really be a good idea&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: calvinfoo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/02/fuel-price-cut-tonight-10-sen-for-all-fuels/#comment-192447</link>
		<dc:creator>calvinfoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the Gov annouced 0.70 increase in fuel prices, the transportation hoo-haa and increased their price imediately.  Coach from Penang to Johore increased from RM50 right up to RM65 on the very next day.  A total of wooping 30% fare increment.

Now, the price decreased 5 times and now it is RM1.90 per liter, did the transportation company do anything about that? NO! THEY STILL STAY AT THE FUCKING RM65 AND EVEN RISE FURTHER TO RM70 FOR THIS MONTH HOLIDAY SEASON!!  A BIG THANKS TO THE FUCKING GARMENT FOR DAMAGE THAT ISN&#039;T REVERSABLE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the Gov annouced 0.70 increase in fuel prices, the transportation hoo-haa and increased their price imediately.  Coach from Penang to Johore increased from RM50 right up to RM65 on the very next day.  A total of wooping 30% fare increment.</p>
<p>Now, the price decreased 5 times and now it is RM1.90 per liter, did the transportation company do anything about that? NO! THEY STILL STAY AT THE FUCKING RM65 AND EVEN RISE FURTHER TO RM70 FOR THIS MONTH HOLIDAY SEASON!!  A BIG THANKS TO THE FUCKING GARMENT FOR DAMAGE THAT ISN&#8217;T REVERSABLE!</p>
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