Comments on: Lexus C-segment premium hatch due in 2011? http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:55:19 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: haya http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-248197 haya Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:05:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-248197 car name is blade in japan. blade had been sold in japan jan 2007. car name is blade in japan.
blade had been sold in japan jan 2007.

]]> By: ALPINA Burkard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-194336 ALPINA Burkard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:52:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-194336 4G63T DSM said, December 10, 2008 @ 9:43 am I seriously don’t get people that scream badge engineering and point fingers. If it makes for better cars, why complain. An example. Lexus ES300 and the Camry. Both ran on the same platform. Lexus benefited from volume production of the Camry (lower units costs), the Camry benefited because the platform was made better than it would be if it had not needed to underpin a Lexus. Sure, some may just be that, badge engineered, but the benefits are still there. VW group for instance, they have a HUGH selection of platforms, engines and massive flexibility to cater to a wide range of market demographics, and the benefit of extremely short time to market leadtime. --------------------- what happen to the es300? 4G63T DSM said,

December 10, 2008 @ 9:43 am

I seriously don’t get people that scream badge engineering and point fingers.

If it makes for better cars, why complain.

An example.
Lexus ES300 and the Camry. Both ran on the same platform. Lexus benefited from volume production of the Camry (lower units costs), the Camry benefited because the platform was made better than it would be if it had not needed to underpin a Lexus.

Sure, some may just be that, badge engineered, but the benefits are still there. VW group for instance, they have a HUGH selection of platforms, engines and massive flexibility to cater to a wide range of market demographics, and the benefit of extremely short time to market leadtime.
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what happen to the es300?

]]> By: 4G63T DSM http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-194305 4G63T DSM Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:43:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-194305 I seriously don't get people that scream badge engineering and point fingers. If it makes for better cars, why complain. An example. Lexus ES300 and the Camry. Both ran on the same platform. Lexus benefited from volume production of the Camry (lower units costs), the Camry benefited because the platform was made better than it would be if it had not needed to underpin a Lexus. Sure, some may just be that, badge engineered, but the benefits are still there. VW group for instance, they have a HUGH selection of platforms, engines and massive flexibility to cater to a wide range of market demographics, and the benefit of extremely short time to market leadtime. I seriously don’t get people that scream badge engineering and point fingers.

If it makes for better cars, why complain.

An example.
Lexus ES300 and the Camry. Both ran on the same platform. Lexus benefited from volume production of the Camry (lower units costs), the Camry benefited because the platform was made better than it would be if it had not needed to underpin a Lexus.

Sure, some may just be that, badge engineered, but the benefits are still there. VW group for instance, they have a HUGH selection of platforms, engines and massive flexibility to cater to a wide range of market demographics, and the benefit of extremely short time to market leadtime.

]]> By: 4G63T DSM http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-194302 4G63T DSM Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:29:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-194302 What everyone forgot about the new compact RWD platform that Toyota is on about? I don't think Lexus will go FWD. Going after the Golf will be setting the target a bit low......it most likely has the 1 Series and Audi A3 in its sights. The A3 is stupid popular in Europe, seeing them everywhere.. I'm sure Toyota is eyeing that chunk. What everyone forgot about the new compact RWD platform that Toyota is on about?

I don’t think Lexus will go FWD. Going after the Golf will be setting the target a bit low……it most likely has the 1 Series and Audi A3 in its sights. The A3 is stupid popular in Europe, seeing them everywhere.. I’m sure Toyota is eyeing that chunk.

]]> By: king http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-194210 king Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:39:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-194210 overall look very korean...imagine parking this next to a chevy optra-5....doesn't look a single bit more premium than the korean car... but you can be sure the price will be above 200k... overall look very korean…imagine parking this next to a chevy optra-5….doesn’t look a single bit more premium than the korean car…

but you can be sure the price will be above 200k…

]]> By: ALPINA Burkard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-194130 ALPINA Burkard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:04:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-194130 give it the F treatment give it the F treatment

]]> By: David9988 http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-194107 David9988 Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:44:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-194107 it looks depressed..somebody end its misery. it looks depressed..somebody end its misery.

]]> By: ALPINA Burkard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-194061 ALPINA Burkard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:34:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-194061 perodua rx350 when come out? perodua rx350 when come out?

]]> By: kei9 http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-193994 kei9 Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:36:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-193994 Theo? ya really didn't get from c'eed? XD c'eed rear http://hostanyimage.com/files/0ob4p4dyvb3cuslj3q6i.jpg Theo? ya really didn’t get from c’eed? XD

c’eed rear
http://hostanyimage.com/files/0ob4p4dyvb3cuslj3q6i.jpg

]]> By: kei9 http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-193992 kei9 Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:32:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-193992 c'eed back end. 90% c’eed back end. 90%

]]> By: jamsbong http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-193982 jamsbong Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:02:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-193982 OMG thats a Corolla with a Lexus Batch! OMG thats a Corolla with a Lexus Batch!

]]> By: fyzal http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-193954 fyzal Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:02:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-193954 reminds me of Nissan Latio Sport ;-) reminds me of Nissan Latio Sport ;-)

]]> By: TheophilusChin http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-193867 TheophilusChin Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:08:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-193867 BanyakMasukWorkshop said, December 8, 2008 @ 8:57 pm but all these guys are in bed with each other of course ;) PAG group(VW, Audi, Skoda, Seat..etc) and the fact that porsche is the majority shareholder in VW… ————————- I don't mind joining such orgy :P BanyakMasukWorkshop said,
December 8, 2008 @ 8:57 pm

but all these guys are in bed with each other of course ;) PAG group(VW, Audi, Skoda, Seat..etc) and the fact that porsche is the majority shareholder in VW…
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I don’t mind joining such orgy :P

]]> By: BanyakMasukWorkshop http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-193826 BanyakMasukWorkshop Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:57:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-193826 TheophilusChin said, December 8, 2008 @ 8:37 pm It’s practiced elsewhere too. An affordable (by European standard) Skoda Octavia is related to Audi A4. Seat Ibiza platform to be used by Audi for their A2 or A1. Heck, even Porsche and VW share their SUV platform. Recently, Seat use previous A4 as their own Exeo. ------------------------- but all these guys are in bed with each other of course ;) PAG group(VW, Audi, Skoda, Seat..etc) and the fact that porsche is the majority shareholder in VW... TheophilusChin said,
December 8, 2008 @ 8:37 pm

It’s practiced elsewhere too. An affordable (by European standard) Skoda Octavia is related to Audi A4. Seat Ibiza platform to be used by Audi for their A2 or A1. Heck, even Porsche and VW share their SUV platform. Recently, Seat use previous A4 as their own Exeo.
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but all these guys are in bed with each other of course ;) PAG group(VW, Audi, Skoda, Seat..etc) and the fact that porsche is the majority shareholder in VW…

]]> By: Wisdom http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-193818 Wisdom Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:50:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-193818 TC, Haha. Lexus=Toyota=Daihatsu=Perodua. They might rebadge this one also next time. TC,

Haha. Lexus=Toyota=Daihatsu=Perodua. They might rebadge this one also next time.

]]> By: Wisdom http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-193816 Wisdom Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:50:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-193816 TC, Haha. Lexus=Toyota=Daihatsu=Perudua. They might rebadge this one also next time. TC,

Haha. Lexus=Toyota=Daihatsu=Perudua. They might rebadge this one also next time.

]]> By: ALPINA Burkard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-193804 ALPINA Burkard Bovensiepen GMBH + Co. KG Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:41:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-193804 the golf plus looks better the golf plus looks better

]]> By: TheophilusChin http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-193801 TheophilusChin Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:37:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-193801 It's practiced elsewhere too. An affordable (by European standard) Skoda Octavia is related to Audi A4. Seat Ibiza platform to be used by Audi for their A2 or A1. Heck, even Porsche and VW share their SUV platform. Recently, Seat use previous A4 as their own Exeo. So long Lexus doesn't rebadge a Viva I'm fine with their intended C-segment "premium" hatchback. It’s practiced elsewhere too. An affordable (by European standard) Skoda Octavia is related to Audi A4. Seat Ibiza platform to be used by Audi for their A2 or A1. Heck, even Porsche and VW share their SUV platform. Recently, Seat use previous A4 as their own Exeo.

So long Lexus doesn’t rebadge a Viva I’m fine with their intended C-segment “premium” hatchback.

]]> By: mystvearn http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-193800 mystvearn Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:26:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-193800 Having IS250 front is not going to solve the problem.... Having IS250 front is not going to solve the problem….

]]> By: Wisdom http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-193796 Wisdom Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:03:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-193796 Mmm let me guess... Take C segment platform Auris hatchback or Blade, put heavy damping and sound deadning material. Some tuning here and there. Voila! a Lexus hatch. They still have their last stock of rear drive assembly from Trueno, in-case target market prefer rear wheel drive. Haha. Seriously, can we call this effort as rebadging? Mmm let me guess…

Take C segment platform Auris hatchback or Blade, put heavy damping and sound deadning material. Some tuning here and there. Voila! a Lexus hatch. They still have their last stock of rear drive assembly from Trueno, in-case target market prefer rear wheel drive. Haha.

Seriously, can we call this effort as rebadging?

]]> By: vivio http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-193666 vivio Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:49:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-193666 whyy nowadays car became so lame??? or its just me?? whyy nowadays car became so lame???
or its just me??

]]> By: ignas http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-193650 ignas Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:55:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-193650 so boring with the segi tiga headlamp and front grille zZzZz... so boring with the segi tiga headlamp and front grille zZzZz…

]]> By: sutheshkumar87 http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-193648 sutheshkumar87 Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:38:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-193648 Toyota Auris+IS250 :D nice design, but I doubt ppl wants a Lexus hatch. Toyota Auris+IS250

:D

nice design, but I doubt ppl wants a Lexus hatch.

]]> By: tokmoh http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-193640 tokmoh Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:48:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-193640 Dream on. When Europeans can buy ford focus ST (n upcoming RS), golf gti, Vauxhall Astra, Fiat Bravo, Mini cooper, Fiat 500, Fiat panda, renault megane, clio, etc..... who the hell wants to put their money on a brand that drives as exciting as being dead? Dream on. When Europeans can buy ford focus ST (n upcoming RS), golf gti, Vauxhall Astra, Fiat Bravo, Mini cooper, Fiat 500, Fiat panda, renault megane, clio, etc….. who the hell wants to put their money on a brand that drives as exciting as being dead?

]]> By: IsaacVky http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-193586 IsaacVky Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:22:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-193586 Waste of time Toyota, European ain't as stupid as Asians, and Americans (look what happen to their big three) Waste of time Toyota, European ain’t as stupid as Asians, and Americans (look what happen to their big three)

]]> By: Xx- Ferrari -xX http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-193573 Xx- Ferrari -xX Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:56:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-193573 This car seems to be one of the best hatchback we have on earth.... But the pricing need to be considered.... If it's overpriced, then Lexus should forget it's high end sales of these hatchbacks... This car seems to be one of the best hatchback we have on earth…. But the pricing need to be considered…. If it’s overpriced, then Lexus should forget it’s high end sales of these hatchbacks…

]]> By: Kevin Lee http://paultan.org/2008/12/07/lexus-c-segment-premium-hatchback-2011/#comment-193572 Kevin Lee Sun, 07 Dec 2008 13:54:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=10367#comment-193572 well guess lexus is trying to be more european. if they do sell in malaysia, pray hard they are going to be below 200k mark. else it wont compete, even with the golf gti well guess lexus is trying to be more european. if they do sell in malaysia, pray hard they are going to be below 200k mark. else it wont compete, even with the golf gti

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