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	<title>Comments on: Toyota Camry: new Perak state official car</title>
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		<title>By: Car Fan Toshi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-198074</link>
		<dc:creator>Car Fan Toshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 00:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason is there is no competition market in Malaysia. Perodua produce kei-car due to agreement with Proton and Malaysian Government that no other sedan produced except Proton. If Perodua produced sedan. The car is badge-engineered from Daihatsu Altis (another name for Toyota Camry produced by Daihatsu in Japan).
Salute for MB Nizar which lead to future savings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason is there is no competition market in Malaysia. Perodua produce kei-car due to agreement with Proton and Malaysian Government that no other sedan produced except Proton. If Perodua produced sedan. The car is badge-engineered from Daihatsu Altis (another name for Toyota Camry produced by Daihatsu in Japan).<br />
Salute for MB Nizar which lead to future savings.</p>
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		<title>By: Car Fan Toshi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-198070</link>
		<dc:creator>Car Fan Toshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 00:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exco cars are different than civilian usage due to their duty need to move anywhere. What proton offer is the warranty or service free is based on civilian usage which some of them using same car for 5 years but the mileage really low not reached 10000 km like what I did. I&#039;m owned Proton Wira 1.5 GL almost 6 years but the mileage is 17000 km. Exco always move anywhere and need a reliable car which is a different spec from civilian model. Think again and I comment later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exco cars are different than civilian usage due to their duty need to move anywhere. What proton offer is the warranty or service free is based on civilian usage which some of them using same car for 5 years but the mileage really low not reached 10000 km like what I did. I&#8217;m owned Proton Wira 1.5 GL almost 6 years but the mileage is 17000 km. Exco always move anywhere and need a reliable car which is a different spec from civilian model. Think again and I comment later.</p>
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		<title>By: Car Fan Toshi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-198069</link>
		<dc:creator>Car Fan Toshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 00:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I talked about high speed driving with fuel economy about more than 180 km/h.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I talked about high speed driving with fuel economy about more than 180 km/h.</p>
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		<title>By: Car Fan Toshi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-197854</link>
		<dc:creator>Car Fan Toshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think again. What MB Nizar is futuristic idea for Perak. I drove 2.0E Camry is a bit disappointing performance due to 4 speed auto transmission. 2.4V Camry is 5 speed auto car. So what they doing is to achieve a lot of savings. I drive my BMW 528i E39 which is 5 speed auto. The fuel tank remain same from Rawang Toll to Gopeng Toll unlike 2.0E Camry which is 4 speed auto almost achieve half tank of fuel at. Perak is a big state. Think again and I comment later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think again. What MB Nizar is futuristic idea for Perak. I drove 2.0E Camry is a bit disappointing performance due to 4 speed auto transmission. 2.4V Camry is 5 speed auto car. So what they doing is to achieve a lot of savings. I drive my BMW 528i E39 which is 5 speed auto. The fuel tank remain same from Rawang Toll to Gopeng Toll unlike 2.0E Camry which is 4 speed auto almost achieve half tank of fuel at. Perak is a big state. Think again and I comment later.</p>
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		<title>By: Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water.</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-197241</link>
		<dc:creator>Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 05:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this gov is disgusting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this gov is disgusting</p>
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		<title>By: samsung_lj</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-197142</link>
		<dc:creator>samsung_lj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw the msg above is for Lil fire 85.. forgot to add it..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw the msg above is for Lil fire 85.. forgot to add it..</p>
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		<title>By: samsung_lj</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-197141</link>
		<dc:creator>samsung_lj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SY0H, i dont want to mess with you. But i think BN terengganu are even worst.. 

Are you sure you saw Tun Dr. M be4 or went to his open house? his kids business &amp; the fleet of imported cars at his house seen is believing! Even he sit on a Perdana to work, that is just G car he can claim from the G but how about his own cars?!? You know Taib Mahmud of Sarawak? I think he is sitting on a rolls royce to work.. BN cronies earn more then a bunch of Perdana sitting at thier own back yard. If PR state buy Toyota is wastefull, then just vote them down. So what? Since you decide on the vote. If you think BN ppl wont wollop more money then PR, then vote for BN. So what? In the end, is your choice! This is a car blog, not Political blog please keep it clean.


Car blog huh? What kind of hypocrite are you? You come into Paultan&#039;s blog everyday cursing the government no matter what they do and supporting PR like they came from heaven to serve the rakyat. Atleast the other members here agree or disagree with the government once a while but not you, you will always support PR no matter what. Why don&#039;t you just admit that you treat this blog as a political blog because most of your arguements involve politics! If you treat this as a car blog, then i dont want to see you comment anything about politics anymore because im sick of reading your one-sided comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SY0H, i dont want to mess with you. But i think BN terengganu are even worst.. </p>
<p>Are you sure you saw Tun Dr. M be4 or went to his open house? his kids business &amp; the fleet of imported cars at his house seen is believing! Even he sit on a Perdana to work, that is just G car he can claim from the G but how about his own cars?!? You know Taib Mahmud of Sarawak? I think he is sitting on a rolls royce to work.. BN cronies earn more then a bunch of Perdana sitting at thier own back yard. If PR state buy Toyota is wastefull, then just vote them down. So what? Since you decide on the vote. If you think BN ppl wont wollop more money then PR, then vote for BN. So what? In the end, is your choice! This is a car blog, not Political blog please keep it clean.</p>
<p>Car blog huh? What kind of hypocrite are you? You come into Paultan&#8217;s blog everyday cursing the government no matter what they do and supporting PR like they came from heaven to serve the rakyat. Atleast the other members here agree or disagree with the government once a while but not you, you will always support PR no matter what. Why don&#8217;t you just admit that you treat this blog as a political blog because most of your arguements involve politics! If you treat this as a car blog, then i dont want to see you comment anything about politics anymore because im sick of reading your one-sided comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water.</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196640</link>
		<dc:creator>Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mavmanuel said,

December 17, 2008 @ 8:59 am

Ilove_lamborghini said,
December 16, 2008 @ 12:19 pm

Not a news flash but totally agree with you…
It’s such a shame; I envy those who gets to buy a Vios for the price of a Saga.
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the saga is rubbish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mavmanuel said,</p>
<p>December 17, 2008 @ 8:59 am</p>
<p>Ilove_lamborghini said,<br />
December 16, 2008 @ 12:19 pm</p>
<p>Not a news flash but totally agree with you…<br />
It’s such a shame; I envy those who gets to buy a Vios for the price of a Saga.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
the saga is rubbish.</p>
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		<title>By: Mavmanuel</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196577</link>
		<dc:creator>Mavmanuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ilove_lamborghini said,
December 16, 2008 @ 12:19 pm 

Not a news flash but totally agree with you...
It&#039;s such a shame; I envy those who gets to buy a Vios for the price of a Saga.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ilove_lamborghini said,<br />
December 16, 2008 @ 12:19 pm </p>
<p>Not a news flash but totally agree with you&#8230;<br />
It&#8217;s such a shame; I envy those who gets to buy a Vios for the price of a Saga.</p>
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		<title>By: Mavmanuel</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196573</link>
		<dc:creator>Mavmanuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Camry&#039;s are NOT luxury cars, Bangkok uses Camry&#039;s as Taxis. 

In Malaysia, because of the taxes imposed on Japanese cars, Japanese cars are overstated as luxury cars.

A Merc, BMW, Audi are luxury cars... what is there to ponder further?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Camry&#8217;s are NOT luxury cars, Bangkok uses Camry&#8217;s as Taxis. </p>
<p>In Malaysia, because of the taxes imposed on Japanese cars, Japanese cars are overstated as luxury cars.</p>
<p>A Merc, BMW, Audi are luxury cars&#8230; what is there to ponder further?</p>
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		<title>By: Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water.</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196387</link>
		<dc:creator>Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about mazda 6, that car is nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about mazda 6, that car is nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilove_lamborghini</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196269</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilove_lamborghini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No hard feeling to everybody. Just imagine if we don&#039;t have the Proton and The Produa, we should be paying at least 40% of the current car price. Just imagine the impact to all the Rakyat.

If we open the car market, do you think all the major car manufacturers will set up the factories in Thailand, where they have manpower probelm, people who do not speak English and Thailand do not have the downstream industries to support the automotive industries. Imagine how much Malaysia have been losing for all these years........................
Just calculate how many Toyota imported to Malaysia per year, multiply by the value of the car. Then you will know how much we are losing. We are talking about Toyota only. If you include Honda, BMW, Isuzu and others, the losing amount per year can actually buy out the toll companies in Malaysia in a year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No hard feeling to everybody. Just imagine if we don&#8217;t have the Proton and The Produa, we should be paying at least 40% of the current car price. Just imagine the impact to all the Rakyat.</p>
<p>If we open the car market, do you think all the major car manufacturers will set up the factories in Thailand, where they have manpower probelm, people who do not speak English and Thailand do not have the downstream industries to support the automotive industries. Imagine how much Malaysia have been losing for all these years&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
Just calculate how many Toyota imported to Malaysia per year, multiply by the value of the car. Then you will know how much we are losing. We are talking about Toyota only. If you include Honda, BMW, Isuzu and others, the losing amount per year can actually buy out the toll companies in Malaysia in a year!</p>
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		<title>By: Wisdom</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196239</link>
		<dc:creator>Wisdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Perak state govt DRIVERs:

Please abuse the Camry as you guys normally do. No offence. We just want to know the reliability. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Perak state govt DRIVERs:</p>
<p>Please abuse the Camry as you guys normally do. No offence. We just want to know the reliability. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water.</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196234</link>
		<dc:creator>Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not_ah_beng said,

December 15, 2008 @ 10:20 am

@nyawere:

“Sooo, bottom line is, despite all the cash involved (which by the way we must overcome, but by not changing to another brand) the leaders of Malaysia must buy Malaysia product, even when it is not goo enuff..!!! Or do not become leaders. You people can become businessman…!!! ”
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what rubbish.

So many Proton salesman register to comment on this site?

Who teach you that Msian MUST BUY Msian product even when it sux? If they are both the same then maybe patriotism may be considered. But when it is far, far, far, far, far(x100) inferior also must buy?

No thank you.

I am as patriotic as anyone, but no thanks, I don’t believe in giving handouts and crutches. Stand on your own two feet, or don’t bother stand at all.
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got, since primary school pendidickan moral teach already, jikalau anda membeli kereta buatan malaysian seperti proton wira atau perodua kancil bermaksud anda cinta akan malaysia. and this crap goes on until spm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not_ah_beng said,</p>
<p>December 15, 2008 @ 10:20 am</p>
<p>@nyawere:</p>
<p>“Sooo, bottom line is, despite all the cash involved (which by the way we must overcome, but by not changing to another brand) the leaders of Malaysia must buy Malaysia product, even when it is not goo enuff..!!! Or do not become leaders. You people can become businessman…!!! ”<br />
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<p>what rubbish.</p>
<p>So many Proton salesman register to comment on this site?</p>
<p>Who teach you that Msian MUST BUY Msian product even when it sux? If they are both the same then maybe patriotism may be considered. But when it is far, far, far, far, far(x100) inferior also must buy?</p>
<p>No thank you.</p>
<p>I am as patriotic as anyone, but no thanks, I don’t believe in giving handouts and crutches. Stand on your own two feet, or don’t bother stand at all.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
got, since primary school pendidickan moral teach already, jikalau anda membeli kereta buatan malaysian seperti proton wira atau perodua kancil bermaksud anda cinta akan malaysia. and this crap goes on until spm.</p>
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		<title>By: xstan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196213</link>
		<dc:creator>xstan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hhmm...I now understand that some forumers are still not mature yet with brain size if a pea..nut. C&#039;mon guys be wise ..having free service + warranty is definately cost savings. 

Guys should bashed Terrengannu for buying mercs instead. Those racist BN is simply money minded &amp; biggest con. Still remember public outcry that the govt shld replace with Camry then Mercs..

Many here simply bark at the politicians instead of weighing reason. One young 7 racist guy is simply Nas@Proton. He shd know how much did the past Cronies owe to Ipoh Eon for thier Perdana till the service centre tak layan &amp; blacklisted this  car. 

Note..the service centre do not even want to service this present Exco&#039;s car..so they are in dilema. Wise choice..go get Camry.

wonder if Nas@Proton is from hell inviting guys to join him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hhmm&#8230;I now understand that some forumers are still not mature yet with brain size if a pea..nut. C&#8217;mon guys be wise ..having free service + warranty is definately cost savings. </p>
<p>Guys should bashed Terrengannu for buying mercs instead. Those racist BN is simply money minded &amp; biggest con. Still remember public outcry that the govt shld replace with Camry then Mercs..</p>
<p>Many here simply bark at the politicians instead of weighing reason. One young 7 racist guy is simply Nas@Proton. He shd know how much did the past Cronies owe to Ipoh Eon for thier Perdana till the service centre tak layan &amp; blacklisted this  car. </p>
<p>Note..the service centre do not even want to service this present Exco&#8217;s car..so they are in dilema. Wise choice..go get Camry.</p>
<p>wonder if Nas@Proton is from hell inviting guys to join him.</p>
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		<title>By: 4G63T DSM</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196176</link>
		<dc:creator>4G63T DSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, I think this is even more patriotic to save precious resources to be channeled into the state....even if the lopsided Federal government isn&#039;t helping. With reports (true or not is another debate) of these PV6s racking tens of thousands in maintenance bills, the Camry would pay for itself over the service life.

Look, PR isn&#039;t stupid. They know this will garner very negative press from the UMNO-BN camp. But they went anyway with the camry&#039;s knowing full well this is going to get blown out. I would say they have gone full well into this knowing the benefits of the Camry.

The question is, why would they have not chosen the Accord 2.4 which is CKD that may have gotten a tax exemption. Anyone bother to ask maybe even with CKDs the Fereal Government was not too willing to give the tax exemption as well to oposition states? You know how twisted they can be.

But seriously, not too long ago, some of us still remember that the Corona (the Camry&#039;s predecessor) is just a regular midsized sedan, one step up from the Corolla.

Its just that our rapidly slipping standard of living has pushed what was a regular sedan into the luxury realm in the eyes of the public. Guess who can we blame for that. Hell with the Camry, most people can&#039;t even afford a Corolla....and even worst, even the Vios is beyond the reach of some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, I think this is even more patriotic to save precious resources to be channeled into the state&#8230;.even if the lopsided Federal government isn&#8217;t helping. With reports (true or not is another debate) of these PV6s racking tens of thousands in maintenance bills, the Camry would pay for itself over the service life.</p>
<p>Look, PR isn&#8217;t stupid. They know this will garner very negative press from the UMNO-BN camp. But they went anyway with the camry&#8217;s knowing full well this is going to get blown out. I would say they have gone full well into this knowing the benefits of the Camry.</p>
<p>The question is, why would they have not chosen the Accord 2.4 which is CKD that may have gotten a tax exemption. Anyone bother to ask maybe even with CKDs the Fereal Government was not too willing to give the tax exemption as well to oposition states? You know how twisted they can be.</p>
<p>But seriously, not too long ago, some of us still remember that the Corona (the Camry&#8217;s predecessor) is just a regular midsized sedan, one step up from the Corolla.</p>
<p>Its just that our rapidly slipping standard of living has pushed what was a regular sedan into the luxury realm in the eyes of the public. Guess who can we blame for that. Hell with the Camry, most people can&#8217;t even afford a Corolla&#8230;.and even worst, even the Vios is beyond the reach of some.</p>
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		<title>By: Cire</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196165</link>
		<dc:creator>Cire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather put my patriotism to good use by being a productive citizen, pay tax on time, help each others and the rest, than to put hard earned monies on dismay products. 
It would be a laughing stocks for the country if Perak were to take a new fleet of perdana on the other hand. Everyones talking about high maintanence on PV6, and to go head on and be patriotic, this I am sure will get the same long lashing as this tread goes..
never ending...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather put my patriotism to good use by being a productive citizen, pay tax on time, help each others and the rest, than to put hard earned monies on dismay products.<br />
It would be a laughing stocks for the country if Perak were to take a new fleet of perdana on the other hand. Everyones talking about high maintanence on PV6, and to go head on and be patriotic, this I am sure will get the same long lashing as this tread goes..<br />
never ending&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RM</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196163</link>
		<dc:creator>RM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so so tired of Proton and now its about patriotism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so so tired of Proton and now its about patriotism.</p>
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		<title>By: 9166</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196159</link>
		<dc:creator>9166</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at what the G and the system has done to all of us. For far too long, Malaysian motorist have been cheated. We were forcefully asked to back the so called National Car from the start. They dished out rubbish cars for us to drive. whilst some cronies rakes in the millions from us. I agree, not entirely Proton&#039;s faulty, it is the suppliers that is twisting the arm.

So now, after 20 plus years, many motoring public seemed to think the standard for cars is Proton. It is no wonder, why most people view the CAMRY as luxury cars. The sooner we wake up and realise that the G has robbed us of our rights to good and safe cars for our families, the G will continue to set the standard for cars. ie Proton

As the world progress, we get stuck in our shell thinking Proton is a good car.Unless, the definition of a car remains as a 4 wheeled engine vehicle changes to something that includes safety features as standard, we will be left behind in our own minds.

To me, the Camry 2.4 just about meet the minimum requirements of a modern day car.
I think Toysrus sells better 4 wheeled engine vehicle, if we call them cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at what the G and the system has done to all of us. For far too long, Malaysian motorist have been cheated. We were forcefully asked to back the so called National Car from the start. They dished out rubbish cars for us to drive. whilst some cronies rakes in the millions from us. I agree, not entirely Proton&#8217;s faulty, it is the suppliers that is twisting the arm.</p>
<p>So now, after 20 plus years, many motoring public seemed to think the standard for cars is Proton. It is no wonder, why most people view the CAMRY as luxury cars. The sooner we wake up and realise that the G has robbed us of our rights to good and safe cars for our families, the G will continue to set the standard for cars. ie Proton</p>
<p>As the world progress, we get stuck in our shell thinking Proton is a good car.Unless, the definition of a car remains as a 4 wheeled engine vehicle changes to something that includes safety features as standard, we will be left behind in our own minds.</p>
<p>To me, the Camry 2.4 just about meet the minimum requirements of a modern day car.<br />
I think Toysrus sells better 4 wheeled engine vehicle, if we call them cars.</p>
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		<title>By: bmpower</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196124</link>
		<dc:creator>bmpower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet.. the past driver of BN MP .. are money $ucker.. 
they are the one those kawtim with workshop to up the price.. the top-up one going into their pocket.. 

Yeah.. i know that... 

*And current perak G , just refer to the previous state gov bills? How stewpid they are? I thought they were smarter..  but now... they are also rubbish!

I&#039;ll vote Parti Cap Kunci for upcoming election.. 

Anyway... i dont ever believe in what all they said, either terengganu one.. and perak one.. The P- V6 was never THAT expensive as that to maintain.. 
It wouldnt ever be 16K per year!.. but if 4 - 7K are reasonable.

unless &#039;masuk poket driver or Private assistant (PA)&#039;.. I knew... Many YB PA are cheaters too!.. They are more a$$hole.

Ok fine... now I get other reason for that.. 
Ngeh Ho Kam and Perak MB are Toyota Fanboy.. same as Trengganu MB too.. Japanese Syndrom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet.. the past driver of BN MP .. are money $ucker..<br />
they are the one those kawtim with workshop to up the price.. the top-up one going into their pocket.. </p>
<p>Yeah.. i know that&#8230; </p>
<p>*And current perak G , just refer to the previous state gov bills? How stewpid they are? I thought they were smarter..  but now&#8230; they are also rubbish!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll vote Parti Cap Kunci for upcoming election.. </p>
<p>Anyway&#8230; i dont ever believe in what all they said, either terengganu one.. and perak one.. The P- V6 was never THAT expensive as that to maintain..<br />
It wouldnt ever be 16K per year!.. but if 4 &#8211; 7K are reasonable.</p>
<p>unless &#8216;masuk poket driver or Private assistant (PA)&#8217;.. I knew&#8230; Many YB PA are cheaters too!.. They are more a$$hole.</p>
<p>Ok fine&#8230; now I get other reason for that..<br />
Ngeh Ho Kam and Perak MB are Toyota Fanboy.. same as Trengganu MB too.. Japanese Syndrom.</p>
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		<title>By: csv</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196106</link>
		<dc:creator>csv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eh, why didnt they consider nissan sylphy? cheaper, and maintence also good.

but the core problem is probably the drivers.

make them pay for their own cars la, best.(thats what our neighbouring country does) then we can see lots of wiras-bmws turning up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eh, why didnt they consider nissan sylphy? cheaper, and maintence also good.</p>
<p>but the core problem is probably the drivers.</p>
<p>make them pay for their own cars la, best.(thats what our neighbouring country does) then we can see lots of wiras-bmws turning up.</p>
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		<title>By: Akazamabamaboo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196105</link>
		<dc:creator>Akazamabamaboo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what they should do is learn a bit more about the cars they&#039;re driving or being driven in. If you don&#039;t know what goes on under the bonnet, some dishonest mechanic can easily trick you into paying a fortune for a faulty cable or a worn bushing.

On another note, I reckon we need more oil-burning passenger cars in our beloved country. As we all know, diesel engines have come a long way since the days when they were notoriously noisy and sluggish. In the UK, turbodiesels are quite commonly found in cars ranging from small cars and family cars to executive and luxury sedans. I remember driving a rental Vauxhall Vectra 1.9 CDTi from Liverpool to Aberdeen, with 150bhp under my right foot, effortlessly cruising down the motorway at 140mph (~225km/h). And you&#039;ve GOT to love the instantaneous surge of the 320Nm produced by the turbocharged lump!

Okay that was somewhat off-topic... =P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what they should do is learn a bit more about the cars they&#8217;re driving or being driven in. If you don&#8217;t know what goes on under the bonnet, some dishonest mechanic can easily trick you into paying a fortune for a faulty cable or a worn bushing.</p>
<p>On another note, I reckon we need more oil-burning passenger cars in our beloved country. As we all know, diesel engines have come a long way since the days when they were notoriously noisy and sluggish. In the UK, turbodiesels are quite commonly found in cars ranging from small cars and family cars to executive and luxury sedans. I remember driving a rental Vauxhall Vectra 1.9 CDTi from Liverpool to Aberdeen, with 150bhp under my right foot, effortlessly cruising down the motorway at 140mph (~225km/h). And you&#8217;ve GOT to love the instantaneous surge of the 320Nm produced by the turbocharged lump!</p>
<p>Okay that was somewhat off-topic&#8230; =P</p>
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		<title>By: Akazamabamaboo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196100</link>
		<dc:creator>Akazamabamaboo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I can say is...
Malaysian politics =BULLSH*T</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can say is&#8230;<br />
Malaysian politics =BULLSH*T</p>
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		<title>By: naz@proton</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196098</link>
		<dc:creator>naz@proton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pakatan rakyat perak datuk ngeah intentions to buy camry actualy is a dap idea, those day ronie liu dap exco frm pakatan selangor also interested to drive camry, why they behave like monkey if bn do this they will bashed to death. Anyway one more monkey g.eng also interested to suck tax payee money to drive camry. Dont bull shit to safe cost........ All of u r the same cari jln to sucks..........go to hell lah. Byk ckp dr kerja.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pakatan rakyat perak datuk ngeah intentions to buy camry actualy is a dap idea, those day ronie liu dap exco frm pakatan selangor also interested to drive camry, why they behave like monkey if bn do this they will bashed to death. Anyway one more monkey g.eng also interested to suck tax payee money to drive camry. Dont bull shit to safe cost&#8230;&#8230;.. All of u r the same cari jln to sucks&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.go to hell lah. Byk ckp dr kerja.</p>
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		<title>By: autojohndoe</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196081</link>
		<dc:creator>autojohndoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw paul, u own a perdana rite?

any comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw paul, u own a perdana rite?</p>
<p>any comment?</p>
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		<title>By: autojohndoe</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196078</link>
		<dc:creator>autojohndoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with u all... haha..

quite weird with not ah beng comment... when he gives comment he usually will stated something that malaysian will fully agree with his comment... no offense not ah beng... it just i want to know if u read thousands of totally different comment posters at the other site or just some hundred?

malaysia has nearly 25millions ppl... say like u just read 100 different ppl comment... it is 100over25million... ok la, its too much... if only 20,000 ppl owns PV6 give comments, that it is only 1/200 comment... still not reliable...

so, pls dont say things means MANY PEOPLE AGREE WITH ME... and again, no offence just ur statement is usually overdefined....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with u all&#8230; haha..</p>
<p>quite weird with not ah beng comment&#8230; when he gives comment he usually will stated something that malaysian will fully agree with his comment&#8230; no offense not ah beng&#8230; it just i want to know if u read thousands of totally different comment posters at the other site or just some hundred?</p>
<p>malaysia has nearly 25millions ppl&#8230; say like u just read 100 different ppl comment&#8230; it is 100over25million&#8230; ok la, its too much&#8230; if only 20,000 ppl owns PV6 give comments, that it is only 1/200 comment&#8230; still not reliable&#8230;</p>
<p>so, pls dont say things means MANY PEOPLE AGREE WITH ME&#8230; and again, no offence just ur statement is usually overdefined&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Xx- Ferrari -xX</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196071</link>
		<dc:creator>Xx- Ferrari -xX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALL POLITICIANS ARE BLEEDY SHITS !!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALL POLITICIANS ARE BLEEDY SHITS !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Xx- Ferrari -xX</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196070</link>
		<dc:creator>Xx- Ferrari -xX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul , why u havent&#039; mention about Penang Government yet.....
Lim Guan Eng just stated that Penang also gonna change their 43 EXCO perdana V6 cars to imported foreign cars..... He said they not gonna buy MALAYSIAN cars anymore and also mentioned that Proton is providing “abysmal&quot; service.... What will happen to national automobil industry if the own country&#039;s leader-to-be don&#039;t trust them.... What is happening to them nowadays !!!!! These issues of G changin&#039; official vehiclas are damn hot in Singapore news portal !!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul , why u havent&#8217; mention about Penang Government yet&#8230;..<br />
Lim Guan Eng just stated that Penang also gonna change their 43 EXCO perdana V6 cars to imported foreign cars&#8230;.. He said they not gonna buy MALAYSIAN cars anymore and also mentioned that Proton is providing “abysmal&#8221; service&#8230;. What will happen to national automobil industry if the own country&#8217;s leader-to-be don&#8217;t trust them&#8230;. What is happening to them nowadays !!!!! These issues of G changin&#8217; official vehiclas are damn hot in Singapore news portal !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Xx- Ferrari -xX</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196069</link>
		<dc:creator>Xx- Ferrari -xX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im speechless overtime....
i agree with some of you here......
no matter whoever party they are still the same....
ALL POLITICIANS WILL SHOW THEIR TRUE COLOURS ONE DAY !!!!
haizzzzzzzz...........

next-time malaysians must protest election by making &quot;UNDI-ROSAK&quot;....

Letz vote for no one !!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im speechless overtime&#8230;.<br />
i agree with some of you here&#8230;&#8230;<br />
no matter whoever party they are still the same&#8230;.<br />
ALL POLITICIANS WILL SHOW THEIR TRUE COLOURS ONE DAY !!!!<br />
haizzzzzzzz&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>next-time malaysians must protest election by making &#8220;UNDI-ROSAK&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Letz vote for no one !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: adunadun</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/12/15/toyota-camry-new-perak-state-official-car/#comment-196065</link>
		<dc:creator>adunadun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rumours
Heard that Toyota Management would like to have a large promotion with price reduction for most toyota models in Malaysia. Unfortunately, it was stopped by someone. 

Anyone else heard of this news?
=========================================
can u go to other people market and try to kill local industry? i dont think so, it was normal that each gov not allow import car to be damn cheap then local made/local owner car. Each gov protect local industry. India will protect maruti, indon will protect toyota,    cruel, but that life.... :&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rumours<br />
Heard that Toyota Management would like to have a large promotion with price reduction for most toyota models in Malaysia. Unfortunately, it was stopped by someone. </p>
<p>Anyone else heard of this news?<br />
=========================================<br />
can u go to other people market and try to kill local industry? i dont think so, it was normal that each gov not allow import car to be damn cheap then local made/local owner car. Each gov protect local industry. India will protect maruti, indon will protect toyota,    cruel, but that life&#8230;. <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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