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	<title>Comments on: 2010 Toyota Camry (US market) get a facelift and new 2.5 liter VVT-i engine</title>
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		<title>By: jimmy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-283734</link>
		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this style singapore already have not new </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this style singapore already have not new </p>
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		<title>By: Cheap used cars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheap used cars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I do not own one, I have ridden in one and it is a pretty smooth ride. However, I could never get over the styling of the nose cone. It looks ok in dark colors, but it&#039;s one of those situations where the lighting can make it ugly or beautiful. The rest of the exterior styling is not so bad </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I do not own one, I have ridden in one and it is a pretty smooth ride. However, I could never get over the styling of the nose cone. It looks ok in dark colors, but it&#039;s one of those situations where the lighting can make it ugly or beautiful. The rest of the exterior styling is not so bad </p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-261925</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hot pap, this is the feature we need in this car and it giving every one interest in Toyota Camry </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hot pap, this is the feature we need in this car and it giving every one interest in Toyota Camry </p>
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		<title>By: elmerdumandan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-258653</link>
		<dc:creator>elmerdumandan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have the new altis and as well as the previous one model.problem i got from the new one the dashboard seems not perfectly fit i always bring it to it&#039;s service center but useless always bring back the noise on it.hello toyota wake up in this problem.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have the new altis and as well as the previous one model.problem i got from the new one the dashboard seems not perfectly fit i always bring it to it&#039;s service center but useless always bring back the noise on it.hello toyota wake up in this problem.. </p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-243658</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very poor lah....i so dissapointed........the camry look fool.....i like the new sonata. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very poor lah&#8230;.i so dissapointed&#8230;&#8230;..the camry look fool&#8230;..i like the new sonata. </p>
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		<title>By: Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water.</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-201499</link>
		<dc:creator>Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cars like the mazda 6, opel insignia and citroen c5 can sticktwo fingers in this camry&#039;s nose</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cars like the mazda 6, opel insignia and citroen c5 can sticktwo fingers in this camry&#8217;s nose</p>
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		<title>By: WilliamSmith</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-201477</link>
		<dc:creator>WilliamSmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Undeniably that tested and proven technologies are stable and definitely easy to maintain but what&#039;s holding back the progress? Have us ever wonder why the next logical update of technologies like 5 speed automatics took years to appear in Toyota&#039;s range of vehicles sold locally while overseas&#039; Toyotas already seeing 6 speed auto as standard? Is it because our local suppliers unable to innovate and progress to supply the changes or because our after sales technicians are just too lax behind to learn how to fix newer things? It is the consumers that drive the manufacturers to offer better specs in order to sell and if the consumers are just ignoring this very simple fact and keep buying that&#039;s given to them, the progress to the next technical updates will be slow.

The question to ask is does a Vios owner likes to see that the Vios comes with 5 speed automatic and a more quiet and powerful engine rather than just an exterior changes and maintain very dated 4 speed transmission and no improvement to the engine as well as deteriorated interior quality with higher selling price?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Undeniably that tested and proven technologies are stable and definitely easy to maintain but what&#8217;s holding back the progress? Have us ever wonder why the next logical update of technologies like 5 speed automatics took years to appear in Toyota&#8217;s range of vehicles sold locally while overseas&#8217; Toyotas already seeing 6 speed auto as standard? Is it because our local suppliers unable to innovate and progress to supply the changes or because our after sales technicians are just too lax behind to learn how to fix newer things? It is the consumers that drive the manufacturers to offer better specs in order to sell and if the consumers are just ignoring this very simple fact and keep buying that&#8217;s given to them, the progress to the next technical updates will be slow.</p>
<p>The question to ask is does a Vios owner likes to see that the Vios comes with 5 speed automatic and a more quiet and powerful engine rather than just an exterior changes and maintain very dated 4 speed transmission and no improvement to the engine as well as deteriorated interior quality with higher selling price?</p>
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		<title>By: csv</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-201280</link>
		<dc:creator>csv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yucks. this is the other version right, not our local shore version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yucks. this is the other version right, not our local shore version.</p>
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		<title>By: kei9</title>
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		<dc:creator>kei9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>king said,

January 12, 2009 @ 9:04 pm 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;…simple to maintain &quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

Second that. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>king said,</p>
<p>January 12, 2009 @ 9:04 pm </p>
<p><i>&#8220;…simple to maintain &#8220;</i> </p>
<p>Second that. <img src='http://s3.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: king</title>
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		<dc:creator>king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>say whatever you like but (sadly) the sales figure shows malaysians don&#039;t give a damn about having outdated and stone age engines/gearboxes.

they love it actually...&quot;simple to maintain&quot; is the hottest phrase here. other cars ( especially european ) are too complex n expensive to maintain.

thats why toyota can engage reverse gear and keep &quot;Moving backwards&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>say whatever you like but (sadly) the sales figure shows malaysians don&#8217;t give a damn about having outdated and stone age engines/gearboxes.</p>
<p>they love it actually&#8230;&#8221;simple to maintain&#8221; is the hottest phrase here. other cars ( especially european ) are too complex n expensive to maintain.</p>
<p>thats why toyota can engage reverse gear and keep &#8220;Moving backwards&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-201195</link>
		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Car design looks a bit weird. Don&#039;t know why, just weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Car design looks a bit weird. Don&#8217;t know why, just weird.</p>
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		<title>By: charles27</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-201172</link>
		<dc:creator>charles27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the 2.4 already selling expensive. 
wondering the 2.5 will reach the 190-200k price tag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the 2.4 already selling expensive.<br />
wondering the 2.5 will reach the 190-200k price tag.</p>
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		<title>By: mits27</title>
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		<dc:creator>mits27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this facelift will only apply to US and HK market...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this facelift will only apply to US and HK market&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water.</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-201125</link>
		<dc:creator>Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as ugly as ever</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as ugly as ever</p>
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		<title>By: WilliamSmith</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-201120</link>
		<dc:creator>WilliamSmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the extension of facelift is very much market and situation dependent. If the existing spec is very well received, then the facelift will likely be limited to comestic changes. Else if the existing spec isnt receiving well or because the competitors have moved on dramatically, then a more extensive facelift is required. 

However, given UMW Toyota&#039;s style with its most current facelift to the models, it looks like they&#039;re shifting into reverse gear going towards Proton&#039;s trick, ie. creating one edition and called it &quot;S&quot; which stands for...well... you guess it and add on all the plastic you can find in the local accessories shop with no changes to whatever that matters. As well purposely holding back a passenger&#039;s airbag and then add it when facelift is a kid&#039;s trick. 

I dont know what get into UMW Toyota&#039;s mind to think that adding a few plastics while charging premium to improve the profitability is the way to go while offering OUT OF DATE engines and conservative design is the trend but it certainly does give me a different &quot;oh...what a feeling&quot; impression on Toyotas these days. 

For example, if a customer wants to get a Toyota Vios with black trim, he/she can only have the J/S to consider. One is too basic while the other is loaded with unuseful plastics. One who doesnt want those plastics but in full equipment has to opt for the G variant with Beige Trim. No doubt the targetted main buyers of these segment are young chap who like sportiness hence the S variants fit them (sporty looks, black interior and also most pricey as younger chap follow their heart to buy without too concerned of the budget)while for those who looks for a reliable car can opt for the E/G variants which doesnt have the body kits installed and warmth interior to suit them but what abou those in between? Those who want the full equipment in black trim with a budget in mind? They&#039;re stucked in between. 

The intention of a family car is to carry ppl around and certainly a beige interior isnt as practical as black. A family car has to serve its purpose with the right ingridient, ie. practicality. For that, a telescopic steering wheel is NOT a luxury item that only the more expensive cars should have. A proper driving position help to keep the driver in good shape and condition. As for now, Malaysia car manufacturers have moved from inflexible to rigid model variants and who knows what&#039;s coming next? We have to thank our government for their major contribution to this as well and for making many more &quot;genius&quot; planning in the years to come (just look at the rational of proposing to increase the movie ticket price for foreign movies and it wont be hard to see how many genius are at work!!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the extension of facelift is very much market and situation dependent. If the existing spec is very well received, then the facelift will likely be limited to comestic changes. Else if the existing spec isnt receiving well or because the competitors have moved on dramatically, then a more extensive facelift is required. </p>
<p>However, given UMW Toyota&#8217;s style with its most current facelift to the models, it looks like they&#8217;re shifting into reverse gear going towards Proton&#8217;s trick, ie. creating one edition and called it &#8220;S&#8221; which stands for&#8230;well&#8230; you guess it and add on all the plastic you can find in the local accessories shop with no changes to whatever that matters. As well purposely holding back a passenger&#8217;s airbag and then add it when facelift is a kid&#8217;s trick. </p>
<p>I dont know what get into UMW Toyota&#8217;s mind to think that adding a few plastics while charging premium to improve the profitability is the way to go while offering OUT OF DATE engines and conservative design is the trend but it certainly does give me a different &#8220;oh&#8230;what a feeling&#8221; impression on Toyotas these days. </p>
<p>For example, if a customer wants to get a Toyota Vios with black trim, he/she can only have the J/S to consider. One is too basic while the other is loaded with unuseful plastics. One who doesnt want those plastics but in full equipment has to opt for the G variant with Beige Trim. No doubt the targetted main buyers of these segment are young chap who like sportiness hence the S variants fit them (sporty looks, black interior and also most pricey as younger chap follow their heart to buy without too concerned of the budget)while for those who looks for a reliable car can opt for the E/G variants which doesnt have the body kits installed and warmth interior to suit them but what abou those in between? Those who want the full equipment in black trim with a budget in mind? They&#8217;re stucked in between. </p>
<p>The intention of a family car is to carry ppl around and certainly a beige interior isnt as practical as black. A family car has to serve its purpose with the right ingridient, ie. practicality. For that, a telescopic steering wheel is NOT a luxury item that only the more expensive cars should have. A proper driving position help to keep the driver in good shape and condition. As for now, Malaysia car manufacturers have moved from inflexible to rigid model variants and who knows what&#8217;s coming next? We have to thank our government for their major contribution to this as well and for making many more &#8220;genius&#8221; planning in the years to come (just look at the rational of proposing to increase the movie ticket price for foreign movies and it wont be hard to see how many genius are at work!!).</p>
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		<title>By: Wisdom</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-201075</link>
		<dc:creator>Wisdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;while the Toyota Camry 2.4 SE gets a unit that produces 179 horsepower.&quot;

Paul, wasn&#039;t it suppose to be called 2.5 SE?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;while the Toyota Camry 2.4 SE gets a unit that produces 179 horsepower.&#8221;</p>
<p>Paul, wasn&#8217;t it suppose to be called 2.5 SE?</p>
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		<title>By: kobealex</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-201068</link>
		<dc:creator>kobealex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is the blue one a grown-up Altis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is the blue one a grown-up Altis?</p>
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		<title>By: DRC</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-201067</link>
		<dc:creator>DRC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uglylah.  Malaysian&#039;s one better looking. Usually facelift means no change in engine or major structure eg 4-speed to 5-speed or ordinary steering to telescopic.  So I do not expect our Camry facelift will have 5-speed 2.0G nor facelifted Sylphy with telescopic steering.  Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uglylah.  Malaysian&#8217;s one better looking. Usually facelift means no change in engine or major structure eg 4-speed to 5-speed or ordinary steering to telescopic.  So I do not expect our Camry facelift will have 5-speed 2.0G nor facelifted Sylphy with telescopic steering.  Right?</p>
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		<title>By: n8cky</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-201066</link>
		<dc:creator>n8cky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Creepy, I&#039;m driving a pre-facelift Camry!!! Instead of Altis..
look like Altis..- -&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creepy, I&#8217;m driving a pre-facelift Camry!!! Instead of Altis..<br />
look like Altis..- -&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: WilliamSmith</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-201063</link>
		<dc:creator>WilliamSmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like the only way to improve power for Toyotas is to increase its engine capacity. It&#039;s a relative easy way to getting more power while maintaining its emission control but looking from the industry&#039;s players, many can extra a lot more power in the 2.4 NA form and yet still keep its emission control under check. With todays environmental issues on stack, I cant stop wondering if we should boycott these manufacturers who took the easiest way out without concerning of their responsibility the mother nature. The only thing here that I think they&#039;ve got it right is to have one additional gear ratio to its 5 speeds transmission. This additional ratio should keep the engine&#039;s rpm within minimal fluctuation hence contribute to better fuel consumption. 

Well, Toyotas, I know you have Lexus to take care of hence launching all the hybrid application to the Lexus 1st is the way to create its market niche but that doesnt give you any excuse of delaying environmental friendly application to the rest of your range. Not to forget in the beginning it&#039;s the Toyota that created the Lexus instead the other way round. Now, shouldnt you be looking serioulsy at some new design teams, Mr Toyota?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like the only way to improve power for Toyotas is to increase its engine capacity. It&#8217;s a relative easy way to getting more power while maintaining its emission control but looking from the industry&#8217;s players, many can extra a lot more power in the 2.4 NA form and yet still keep its emission control under check. With todays environmental issues on stack, I cant stop wondering if we should boycott these manufacturers who took the easiest way out without concerning of their responsibility the mother nature. The only thing here that I think they&#8217;ve got it right is to have one additional gear ratio to its 5 speeds transmission. This additional ratio should keep the engine&#8217;s rpm within minimal fluctuation hence contribute to better fuel consumption. </p>
<p>Well, Toyotas, I know you have Lexus to take care of hence launching all the hybrid application to the Lexus 1st is the way to create its market niche but that doesnt give you any excuse of delaying environmental friendly application to the rest of your range. Not to forget in the beginning it&#8217;s the Toyota that created the Lexus instead the other way round. Now, shouldnt you be looking serioulsy at some new design teams, Mr Toyota?</p>
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		<title>By: mytouch</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-201058</link>
		<dc:creator>mytouch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG,what a fugly color...&amp; whats the huge Dugong doing in the bottom photo?keke... :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG,what a fugly color&#8230;&amp; whats the huge Dugong doing in the bottom photo?keke&#8230; :p</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. K</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-201044</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the rear lamps look a bit like the new upcoming E class...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the rear lamps look a bit like the new upcoming E class&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Capt Shopalot</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-201022</link>
		<dc:creator>Capt Shopalot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fugly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fugly!</p>
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		<title>By: pakleh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/11/2010-toyota-camry-us-market-get-a-facelift-and-new-25-liter-vvt-i-engine/#comment-201020</link>
		<dc:creator>pakleh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i the first............ its awesome ... hope malaysia also like that in this year facelift</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i the first&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; its awesome &#8230; hope malaysia also like that in this year facelift</p>
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