oath must never be broken.period.

come on… come on… condemn some more… so, hopefully that guy will finally pissed off and unconsciously reveal all the facts about the mpv… hopefully…

come on.. come on…

Here’s something new from me (someone MIGHT say speculation only, a rumour, not true, don’t believe and his students will come out supporting him saying “Correct, Correct, Correct”) Hehehez.

Proton Edar would merge with EON into one entity and renamed…….wait! I can’t reveal bcos they MIGHT sue my ass off using secrecy act. Ooh… frighten lah. Have to consider the consequences lah. I’m sweating all over already ah. Let’s just leave that for another day.

Only 3S (sales, service n spare parts) centres would be retained, meaning those dealers that sell only, have to ‘bungkus’ n start other biz. Poor guys! This is in line with Proton’s streamlining process n projecting a new image. The exercise of the merging n streamlining will start sometime this year n would be wrapped up by next. Oops! Have I gave too much? Am I putting myself in a corner? Need I go looking for a new job?
Nah! F#&@ them. I am where I am today bcos of who I am! Who am I? That’s for me to know, n for them to find out.

There will be more to come. That’s how I teach my students, but I’m no master. Dare not call myself one……….yet! Hehehez.

Cherios!

NB: To mitlanevo, tks. Who ever you may be.

PATHETIC + HOPELESS kind……

si-fu, i think u better let them with their own selfishness… no need to tell them anything next time…

why is this im-better- than- you attitude?

i know a guy who knew this guy, who knew this guy, who knew this guy, who knew this guy, whos uncle said that proton mpv will be a horse drawn buggy! its a truth!

im giving the best leaked info and therefor im the best guy in paultan..

secrecy act…. even BNM “bafia act” also conclude this apply to bank sector, but not working as we still can gain some information from bank “insider”… tak pecaya…. u go to CTOS… how do they gain bank customer information…. from bank “insider” also la… that’s y no action such as saman or court hearing being taken to CTOS until now b’coz of this secrecy act working so well… cover baik punye…

wat la u guys…. 1 side is some1 from “insider”… the other side some1 gain information from “insider”…. what is the problem… at least when u share some information here, ppl can gain somethng too…. no need to gaduh-gaduh la….

p1 bashers…. dont like p1 it up to u.. u might b rich ppl who affordable to buy imported car…. besides… u condem p1 but u live in m’sia…. say what to this ppl hah??? while m’sian, congrate coz still love to buy m’sia product instead of supporting foreign product which also the quality sometime alsmost the as m’sian product…

Proton MPV got so many details leaked u guys say OH INI RAHSIA, TAK BOLEH BOCOR……(my ass again)

when other BIG companies got leaked specs or photos, u guys cheering like no more tomorrow…..

support Proton? love Proton? like to have things with BUATAN MALAYSIA tag on it? then should be happy to know more “inside stuff”…….

as for the “INSIDER”, hello guys, wake up lah!!!!!! we all here are using nicknames, abc xyz can be anyone and everyone!!!!!!

ppl give extra info, just appreciate lah, or just ignore it…….

as for si-fu, just admit that u TALK CRAP lah…..

SECRECY! so, just wait the secrecy to be revealed in April…

and, about what really cause the delay… even in Proton itself may have speculation…. because there are nearly 10,000 ppl working there… so, there will only 1/10,000 story exactly true…

did u guys got the exact one?

jangan la gaduh2.

mgkn si-fu ni engineer proton.
mgkn insider unitedtas ni manager proton.
so mgkn kedua2nye betul.

tunggu je la ek

with patient…hhhmmmm~

Sorry guys, but paragraph 2 should read thus……

LogicallyMad, are you implying that only what si-fu said about Proton are true n what others said aren’t?

Apologies
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Lol simple english still dun understand?? Where in my comment that I said other ppl is wrong???

When i said whan si-fu said about the Proton MPV is correct is because I know the developement is on schedule.. nothing is delayed… I can assure you with that at least….

why the launching is delayed is not known to us… as si-fu said he also don’t know… maybe the management have some plan or suprise up their sleeves….

is that so hard to understand?

LogicallyMad, are you implying that only what si-fu said about Proton are true n what others said aren’t?

Apologies

January 16, 2009 @ 2:34 pm

well to be fair…. at least si-fu did admit that he don’t know or not too sure…. that’s why he ask paul tan to correct him if what he said is wrong… and that is about something to do with paul tan…. as for what he said about proton i can at least say that he is correct…..
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Didn’t you read the last paragraph on his last posting? It’s about Proton too…..but said……i don’t know.
On that matter, all you guys who commented about Proton are mostly correct too.That set me wondering. Are you guys also ‘insiders’??? LOL!

LogicallyMad, are you implying that everything si-fu said about Proton are true n what others said aren’t? That all other comments are plucked from the sky, made-up, mere speculations etc? If you are, I believe you, you are MAD, logically mad.

Now come April, after the MPV had been launched n my info on it is wrong, I promise you guys I would never ever post anymore comments on paultan.org
Over to you……..si-fu. What say you????…..n your cronies too.

if i dont know sometthing i dont assume, if i am unsure, i usually admit that i am unsure like the case in regarding with paul. I DONT TALK BULL CRAP AROUND!!!!

Sorry actually i mislooked the PS behind the 127 value…my mistake, my bad!
Proton never specifies their engine HP in PS format….only japs do….they do that to give a better image to their engines.
But in real fact, the CPS does produce around 127 HP (really in hp and not ps). Its reduced to 125 HP due to the use of EURO 3 catalytic converter. Why they need to use the EURO 3 catalytic converter even for the domestic market is another whole story.

And for the so call torque my talk bull crap and so on….which part of SECRECY ACT that u dont understand? Why should i jeoperdize myself and my career in revealing clasified information to the public?

And another thing, I AM NOT TELLING THAT I KNOW ALL! In my previous comment i said, ‘I MIGHT know all, but for obvious reasons like the above, i cant be telling everyone here right?’ The point is that i cant reveal to the public everything that i know about proton and the above statement is just a figuritive of speech that why i used the word might to prove a point…cant u understand that? No bodody knows everything, only GOD does. So stop giving foolish and childish comments!

Cheers!

Anyway, CHEERS to you,SI-FU!!! You’re the veteran here, I’m new n still learning!

Farghmee, yes currently we r trying to minimize NVH as much as possible to get the most comfortable ride during long journeys and so on. As this is a family car, and its meant to bring all 7 people in the car comfortably and make sure they have a enjoyable ride.

F1, i never meant like that, nobody wants a noisy car….wat i meant was, we r reducing the Noise Vibration n Harshness of the vehicle as much as posible, but we do have limitations which i cant discuss here. But be assured the ride is gonna be one of the best…

Requirements can be easily met, if u dont meet, u can’t sell the car here or overseas…because we have all sorts of regulations starting from crash to comfort and NVH is one of it. Exceeding the requirements to give the best to the customer is another issue…definitely u wan the best from Proton rite? U guys sure dun want the car to just pass, but excel right? Its like ur exam results, a D and an A is still pass but the quality of the D and the A differs alot…

The one month delay has nothing to do with car, the car is on schedule…maybe the management has something else in their mind, i dont know….

Cheers!

offtopic>>
i think si-fu’s comments are very informative

In Proton or any other company, there is what we call a secrecy act, all employees must strictly adhere to this act. If they ever find out that I am RELEASING CONFIDENTIAL information through the net, i will be FIRED. Because sometimes i post, using the the comapany’s PC and it can be easily traced back. Even Paul has signed some sort of agreement with Proton (correct me if i am wrong Paul), on what he can publish and what he cant publish on his website. Thats why u see Paul will never post pics that was leaked internally, i.e. in the company. If he does that, due to agreement, P1 can take legal action on Paul (again correct me if i am wrong). So in a nutshell, I JUST CANT SIMPLY BARGE IN HERE AND SPILL OUT EVERYTHING I KNOW!!!….i am only able to discuss what the public has known, give opinions from an ‘insider’ perspective.

Paul Tan says: I didn’t sign any agreement with Proton. What I publish and not publish is based on common sense, because Proton has sued a journalist (Chips Yap, motortrader) for publishing spy pictures back in Tengku Mahaleel days. I don’t want to be the next.

Now, just to clarify things,
1) What makes u say that i dont know what am i talking about? Can u gauge me or my knowledge, and assume i dont know what i am talking? I might know all, but for obvious reasons like the above, i cant be telling everyone here right?
2) Proton didn’t employ me for what i dont know, but for what i know and thats the reason for where i am in Proton today…..
3) Lets talk facts, do know why u stated that the CPS can produce 127hp or 125 hp? Do you know why there is variation?
4) Do you know the modifications done on the gearbox and the ECU + TCU?
5) Variants?….hahahahahaha….its not even finalize yet! All depends on the cost.
6) NVH? R u sure ur friend is working very closely with the MPV? reducing NVH is not an easy task and cant be done in one day or one week or one month….NVH also is still not finalize yet, but we r working very hard to get the lowest NVH posible since we have many constrains to adhere to.

Like i said in the previous post, the info u get from an ‘insider’ might be just to mess ur mind that is if its from an engineer or an exec…if its from the technician or the vendors, they dont know much other then whatever they r dealing with. Because they basically execute what is instructed by us, so they dont know why they r doing it and engineering reeasons and many other reasons involved behind it.

So, it would be very nice of you, if you can stop to be judgemental on others and simply come out with comments like that. My previous comments were meant to be general and those who regulary read my comments, they know what i meant because if u read between the lines, u will understand that i am trying to tell something.

Do forgive me if i sounded harsh or rude, just wanted to straighten things out.

p/s: to autojohndoe, thx bro for the support!

Cheers!

it is COMPANY SECRECY…. thats all… since u running a workshop, will u tell ppl the buying cost of ur parts to the public?

no, rite? bcoz u dont want to be slashed by other competitor… an analogy

January 15, 2009 @ 2:27 pm

guys…

STOP SPECULATING!!!!….i doubt anyone can skodeng the test track, unless u r a proton worker or a vendor….i doubt there was a lancer in the test track….just wait until the car is launched and u will get full details. Even the variants offered, engine and so on, STOP SPECULATING. If u might hear some ‘funny’ news from a proton guy, or exec in Tanjung Malim or Shah Alam, they might be just ‘messing with ur mind’….
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Tengokaje.. said,

January 15, 2009 @ 4:20 pm

Now its si-fu talking..The man from inside. Maybe its just their marketing strategy…hmm… Just wait and see.
Any way si-fu, any current news from your side regarding this new ‘baby’
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si-fu said,

January 15, 2009 @ 5:26 pm

Things are going on well with the new ‘baby’…..all going on as per schedule. Just its going on with final minor tweaks and adjustments to make it as perfect as posible, and zero problem as posible…just hang in on guyss….

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He talks as tho he knows all but in actual fact he doesn’t. What relevant facts (that we motorheads need to know) had he given us? At least I gave some reliable minor info on the MPV.
As they say, the master would be toppled by one of his disciple one day. So better watch your derriere, SI-FU.

January 15, 2009 @ 1:21 pm unitedtas… juz curiously wondering, r u from r&d line-up or from the sales line-up… anythng we can share… thnx a lot if u dont mind…
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I’m not in anyway directly connected to P1 (I run my own workshop) but I got my info through someone whom I know very closely n who is directly involved in test-running those MPVs.

January 15, 2009 @ 8:50 pm

I am actually inclined to that theory where waiting the March 2009 to pass and after Pak Lah step down, Najib will take over. You don’t want a PM to officiate your car, then next month, he steps down. A little insignificant to me.

Yeah i can’t agree anymore.