Comments on: Proton Savvy a top 10 car of 2008 in Thailand?

By: JSK

JSK — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:07:47 +0000

I am currently looking for a car which provides me good FC, and good handling. Looking through what Paul Tan’s blogs had provided me, seems like Proton Savvy is the right choice for me. However, i used to be a Proton basher too but to my surprise with all the comments & reviews from existing Savvy owner, it definitely changes my thinking ways. Which is never judge a book by its cover. To be honest, i am into all this car manufacturing industries measuring car engines & car bodies ( Proton, Perodua, Toyota, Ford, Audi etc.) and frankly speaking none of the cars manufactured in the lists i mentioned are 100% perfect. And for your information, car bodies assemblies usually have a tolerances of 0.1-1mm, which can be quite a a lot..
And according to my counterparts in Japan, it happens to all the Japanese car manufacturers too. Even up to this day, assembling a car door still needs some kicking and knocking with hammers…Bliv it or not..this is automotive industry..

By: Zakumo123

Zakumo123 — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 03:34:13 +0000

im savvy driver, and i drove latest camry b4, the handling is unable to be matched, savvy won……..for the guys don belive it, try it b4 you say that……

i noe lots of malaysian ppl they nerves to admit that savvy is a good car………
especially chinese ppl, is time to admit it malaysian………….no shame to it^^

By: aenz81

aenz81 — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:43:55 +0000

and, my 5 and 3 years old sons is better than me in playing PS3 and PSP but they cannot copy my “pc repairing and formating knowledgement” eventhough boths of them start learning/knowing the “ABC” and “1-20″ since 2 years old.. and i dont know if they have the skill of playing soccer and futsal as what i have..

By: aenz81

aenz81 — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:35:47 +0000

at 1st when i’m reading ur comment above about running ur workshop, I also thought that u r running a car workshop. So I think that the others also have similar perseption. just that …

about ur son and ur little nephew, different people will have different knowledgement and skill, eventhough they r younger than us.. if u say that ur 7 years old nephew’s knowledgement about the cars model is better than u, but he will lack of knowledgement in other segment…he’s good in learning mybe he’s worst in practikal.. for the stupid example, ur son and little nephew can tell us all about cars specs, abt ferrari, model, year, top speed etc but pratically they cant repair the cars, ur 7 y/o nephew cant drive the car….. and learning will make someone perfect but nobody pefect in this world…

By: unitedtas

unitedtas — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:14:31 +0000

aenz81 said,

January 22, 2009 @ 12:08 pm

unitedtas,
u use “I run a workshop” for proving that u know about engine (reffer to ur previous comment above) that why their think that u run a car workshop with the way u talk about engine, HP, PS, torque and etc…no offense my friend, just being fair…
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FYI….I’m not trying to prove anything here, fren. Just about anybody can talk abt engines n its specs. Heck! In fact my son who is still in college knows more abt car engines’ specs than me. At times I hv to ask him abt a particular model’s spec n straight away he’ll let me know. If that’s nothing, my nephew who’s 7 years old can tell you abt Ferraris; model, year, top speed etc. N he’s never wrong! Well anyway, let bygones be bygones, we’re all here to learn……….Cherios!

By: aenz81

aenz81 — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:08:13 +0000

By: unitedtas

unitedtas — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:40:08 +0000

Wisdom said,

January 21, 2009 @ 9:24 pm

autojohndoe said,
January 21, 2009 @ 9:14 pm

he has a workshop…. he said it before…
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the way put his point…. sighhs…
sure got many screws left after he done repairing a car…
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FYI…I don’t repair cars. I didn’t say I have a workshop. I said I run a workshop. How many types of workshops can you guys think of? Huh? C’mon! Only car repair workshop? Well, those screws left behind must be from your heads then! Hint: Even KWSP runs workshops.

By: fastcx

fastcx — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:36:23 +0000

adamccl said,
But we see this: Guys buy Savvy, Girls buy MyVi. Strange, huh?
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easy explaination, people are superficial, means they looks at the surface. unless u r car enthusiast. but i cant agree with u on gender, its apply for all gender. lots of my girls told me, myvi is cute, tats y they like it..but when they actually what myvi inside(naked structure), they rather get another car..1 thing is for sure, female like direct stuff, simple n comprehensible items r best for them. many stuff bothers them in their life, so for stuff, as long as it works n not give them trouble, they will like it. haha same applies when they find partner those who have gf, should know.

n i still love my s.neo!!

By: Wisdom

Wisdom — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:24:20 +0000

autojohndoe said,
January 21, 2009 @ 9:14 pm

he has a workshop…. he said it before…
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the way put his point…. sighhs…
sure got many screws left after he done repairing a car…

By: autojohndoe

autojohndoe — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:14:17 +0000

he has a workshop…. he said it before…

By: LogicallyMad

LogicallyMad — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 03:02:43 +0000

I see…. a mechanic probably…. or probably a driver at Port Klang =p

By: farghmee

farghmee — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:41:56 +0000

wah~ besnye unitedtas.
i heard some1 like u, have driven so many cars.
he owns a satria neo(?)

By: unitedtas

unitedtas — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:40:26 +0000

Wisdom, I admit I change cars but not every year lah. In fact, it’s almost everyday. I drive so many cars in a week, I lost count of them. Today you might see me driving a Merc, 2mrw a Ssangyong, day after it might be Proton, Perodua, Volvo, BMW, Honda, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Fiat, Alfa, Citroen, Renault, Peugeot, Ford, Mazda, Toyota, Naza, Kia, Hyundai, Suzuki, Daihatsu so on n so forth. From bone-shakers to the latest, sedans, coupes, convertibles, pick-ups, vans, lorries, prime-movers, so on n so forth. Want me to list all the models I’ve driven? Naw! It’ll be too long a list. Most of my neighbours envy me, some even asking which one is actually my car. Want to go for a ride with me someday?

By: adamccl

adamccl — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:31:22 +0000

Let me tell you guys something – As much as we complain Proton in Malaysia, that’s how much the US users complain Mitsubishi cars there. As a whole, we became rubbish because we had a tie with a rubbish brand. Don’t think Lancer Evo X is a good model. I’ve seen the comment goes like this: “Why does my f—ing Lancer Evo X just overheat!” Therefore, Mitsubishi’s rubbish!

By: adamccl

adamccl — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:18:22 +0000

I’ve driven a Proton Savvy before. I’ve criticised Savvy a lot, until when I saw the model with the R3 skirting and spoiler – fantastic! The rate of problem is still relatively low compared to the actual Mitty car such as the Saga LMST. Clutch pedal is high enough for control and feel. Although interior design, as the UK people called as “cheap plastic”, it actually has the space surprisingly so different from what you see outside. Too bad market is low due to MyVi promotion which surpassed the Savvy. But people who had driven the MyVi told me before – the 1.3l model is heavily fuel-consuming. Also, trust me, MyVi is a bad drifter (tried before). Savvy is fantastic. It can even catch the curve as it is. But we see this: Guys buy Savvy, Girls buy MyVi. Strange, huh?

By: tokmoh

tokmoh — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:50:10 +0000

NoToLowQuality,

Well, E90 is just the code name for the latest generation of 3-series. My fren has one, the one with 2.0L petrol engine bought in early 2007. After just a few days out of the showroom, he never got to see it for like….. 1 year? The whole time it was in the workshop with faulty electronics n stuff. Spare parts after spare parts shipped from Germany, his dad almost wanted to sue Naza, but what luck, the problem finally stopped. It’s nt rly abt Naza, bt the car. ONE friggin YEAR. What’s with BMW’s QC std? Even my dad’s 7-yr-old Waja has yet to spend a night in a workshop. Oh, sometime in the middle, fed up wit long wait, my fren’s dad got him a satria neo. It’s nt rly problem-free, bt much less headache than the beemer.

But I’m nt gonna generalise BMW as rubbish, complacent, blabla, (heck, I love the current M3 in fact, I’d buy it if I hv the money) bt it’s just that sheez can happen to anyone. Doesn’t necessarily mean the foreigns are all-good while our locals are all-bad. That’s life. Through 80 yrs of Toyota, surely, they’ve caused more scars on more ppl than Proton ever did to all Msians for the past 24 yrs, bt Toyota lives cuz they changed. N Proton’s doin that change. I’m nt sayin Proton absolutely no more pw problem today, bt knowing that the MD’s aware of it n looking hard into solving it is gud news for me, n it’s been so for the past 4 years, so the fruits of labour must’ve been felt with newer models. So I’m happy for that at least.

By: Wisdom

Wisdom — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:41:24 +0000

Unitedtas change car every year i guess. or else he has a bunch of old cars….

By: LogicallyMad

LogicallyMad — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 05:53:01 +0000

It’s not a joke… it is a reality… it is just you that cannot accept the reality that other ppl see quality in proton cars…

BTW mitsubishi have just launched that lancer… do you think that they would launched a new one anytime soon??? what a joke….

no car maker in this world would launch a new model that will kill their previous model when its sales trend is still going up……??

By: unitedtas

unitedtas — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:52:31 +0000

LogicallyMad said,

January 20, 2009 @ 9:42 am

unitedtas said,
January 19, 2009 @ 7:32 pm

I don’t think Mitsu will ever rebadge a Proton. It’s the other way round. Ok that’s good, but why give Proton an older version? Why not the current version n maybe do the launching together, Mitsu in Japan n Proton in M’sia? Are they short-changing us?
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Lol…. mitsu will rebadge proton’s persona and MPV if i’m not mistaken…. btw what old model??? proton will rebadge the new lancer… dun u ever read newspaper or watch news???

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Mitsu rebadging Proton is a great joke. Even you are not sure…….someone messing with your mind? Even if they do, God knows where they will send the cars to. Yes, Proton will rebadge the Lancer, but new??? Which new Lancer? The youngest Lancer that I know is now nearly a year old, n by the time Proton rebadges it….it will be…….how old, I don’t know, do you? Like I said earlier, launch a new Mitsu Lancer TOGETHER with a rebadged Proton Lancer. Now wouldn’t you just love that?

By: LogicallyMad

LogicallyMad — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:42:10 +0000

unitedtas said,
January 19, 2009 @ 7:32 pm

Lol…. mitsu will rebadge proton’s persona and MPV if i’m not mistaken…. btw what old model??? proton will rebadge the new lancer… dun u ever read newspaper or watch news???

By: Wisdom

Wisdom — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:49:19 +0000

People turn down a good car, any good car, sometimes based on silly reasons such as:
-no autoflip wing mirrors
-no autocruise
-rear drums instead of rear disks
-center meter console
-insufficient rest angle on rear seats..lol
-non-adjustable intermittent wiper..

Proton biggest mistakes on the Savvy was unacceptable rear ends. from pillars, rear lights, to the center exhaust tip. it just not right.

Otherwise, its a great car.

By: tiadaid

tiadaid — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:35:03 +0000

unitedtas said,

January 19, 2009 @ 7:32 pm

I don’t think Mitsu will ever rebadge a Proton. It’s the other way round.

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From what I’ve heard, they want to rebadge the Persona…

By: unitedtas

unitedtas — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:32:18 +0000

By: LogicallyMad

LogicallyMad — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:07:58 +0000

Win win situation? Why not? Proton rebadge mitsu cars and mitsu rebadge proton cars… both company’s economic scale will increase…. i believe that is a win win situation… unless ur win win situation is ummm like… malaysian national car makers… rebadge and downgraded japanese car all the way… and then give 50% profit to the japanese company….

I’m not saying western company is not good for colaboration… had VW has offered a fair deal to proton, I think proton would gladly accept the offer…

Like i said before, it is not whether the company is japanese or western… it is about getting a fair deal…

By: unitedtas

unitedtas — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:25:05 +0000

So u saying it’s a win-win situation?
Then the Malaysian mentality is not without basis after all. Asian biz better espc if Japanese. Don’t do biz with the mat sallehs bcos they never let u win? They are always one-sided? Then again, aren’t we all?

By: LogicallyMad

LogicallyMad — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:05:02 +0000

unitedtas said,
January 19, 2009 @ 11:18 am

M’sians’ mentality of ‘Japanese is good’ is same as Proton’s mentality. If not, why the tie-up with Mitsubishi?

Weren’t there others who courted Proton? Maybe Proton found them to be unsuitable suitors, or maybe they found Proton not to be worthy investment after all?
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Ummm probably because mitsubishi did not ask to buy 51% of PROTON shares… or maybe because Mitsubishi did ask PROTON to let go its Tanjung Malim plant?

Btw wheneve you want to do any deal… first u shud check whether the deal is one sided… whether there’s a trick behind it….. for me… previous offers made to PROTON was one sided and does not guarantee any benefit for PROTON….

I bet you also don’t want to make any deal that is one sided and not give you any benefit….. or you r easily blinded that you accept any offer as long as it sounds good….???

I believe PROTON choose to collaborate with mitsubishi not because it is japanese… it is because the deal are good for both PROTON n Mitsubishi

By: Fridz

Fridz — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:51:07 +0000

Agree with paul n sifu..

Malaysians (including me)..pls laa change the way we think..Malaysia have a 1st class facilities,but still got 3rd world mind thinking.

towards developed country..

By: unitedtas

unitedtas — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:18:09 +0000

M’sians’ mentality of ‘Japanese is good’ is same as Proton’s mentality. If not, why the tie-up with Mitsubishi?

Weren’t there others who courted Proton? Maybe Proton found them to be unsuitable suitors, or maybe they found Proton not to be worthy investment after all?

By: si-fu

si-fu — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:36:27 +0000

thx farghmee, like i mentioned before long long time ago, my main aim to post comment here is to educate the public what actually proton has to offer….and try my level best to change the famous ‘malaysian mentality’, not to reveal any classified information from proton….hahahahahahaha

Cheers!

By: farghmee

farghmee — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:13:10 +0000

offtopic>>
si-fu, i’ll always love to hear auto comments from u.
i learn a lot from si-fu’s posts.

back to topic>>
drive savvy 1st, afterwards then bash.
don’t just see & start bashing.

offtopic>>
i love go-kart