Body and bonnet of a Mitsubishi Grandis…..

Top and grill of a Toyota Wish…..

Headlamp of a Honda Accord…..

Steering of Honda City…..

Rear of ISIS…..

etc…..

Really thumbs up for Proton designers!!!! Able to combine so many "makes" design into 1 vehicle that none Japs or Europeans car makers can do…….

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apatah lagi kalau sampai pepatah 'kera di hutan disusukan, anak kat rumah mati kelaparan' digunapakai.

imagine le, 1979's robots from korea still masih guna kat kilang2 parts proton, gile ke, mana la budak2 mekatronik, control, etc semua (Robocon bukan main), manufacturer tolong le kembangkan apa yang budak2 ni dah belajar..

bukan saya mengutuk, atau hina, atau ban barang malaysia, tapi lu pikir la sendiri.. (banyak lagi barang2 Malaysia yg ok, tapi Proton & Perodua, & some electrical appliance not le)

& yang penting, what is your part to our country?, just play safe & make some money? tolong le bertegas sikit (tapi anak kena cuit sikit dengan cikgu, bukan main angin pulak ye?)..

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sukahati..

* er, jangan lupa ambik proton punya GPS sekali yea (& jangan banding dengan Garmin/Gophers pulak..)

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depa dh buat asyik nk complaint ja..

hagpa bt keta hangpa sendiri..

u all try cretae ur own car..

then i comment la..

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NOT to those who dream BIG but only have SMALL money (ie: like buying motor trader each month dreaming having CALDINA but only have money to buy AVANZA or EXORA) ..or to those who dream BIG but have a LIL EXTRA money (ie: like decided to buy AVANZA or GRAND LIVINA, and later add bodykits here and there just to SATISFY look like MURANO or CALDINA) .. or even worse to those buying WIRA or WAJA and mods those bodykits and engine to become WIRA-Lution or WAJA-vo..no identity, no brainer..spend that extra money for supercars downpayment..for god sake! (if u can afford one laa..)

Those who buy proton knows what they are buying,knows how to take care and drive a car rather than slam that Perdana Auto gearbox like theres no tomorrow or like its not my car mind set! And some people who bash proton donesnt feel good or any better driving proton coz they afraid their fren or relative using other brands might bash them and they dont have stand why they choose Proton..coz they dont love em' and they just nod to those basher (who technically have more money than they have..)

So, know your Proton, know who can fix it, and know how to drive it..please!

and again,most MALAYSIAN : 'Bagi betis nak peha' attitude..[/quote]

Agreed..The history of Proton can not be compared to those BIG names and Proton should be given times and good management to improve on their technologies and design. Slight improvement can be seen from year to year but it just can not run away from the image of Mitsubishi. But credit should be given to Proton for making efforts.

The cons of Protons are the price and quality ratio is still considered to be expensive (compare to those BIG names especially from Japan) considered Protons to be local made and design cars. I believe most Malaysian do not hate/dislike Proton it is just that Proton does not give good impressions to us Malaysian. I asked those people I know who drive Proton ALL of them told me that the only reason they buy Proton is because it is "Cheap" and it's the only option they can afford but again they have to compensate for "price to quality" ratio which is comparatively expensive. Many of my relatives are still really proud of the 1st generation of Proton Saga that they owned not because of its the 1st "National" car but because of the "price to quality" ratio which is reasonably good.

I would really like to see the government slowly open up the automobile market so that the industry can be come more competitive. I believe with a reasonable competition Proton will step on the pedal to make good quality and reasonably price cars. Everybody know that a good competition bring out the best of all of us. We all cant stay forever under the wings of our parents/government. Let Proton flap their wings and soar. Show the world Proton may not be the BIG names but the day will come. Let make our nation proud with genuine Quality, Style and Price.

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But then if fuel consumption too good, then Petronas will lose out.

I drive the Saga BLM, fuel consumption ok for highway but in town quite bad.

Highway = 10-11cents/km

Town = 15-18cents/km

My friend's Honda City:

Highway = 9-10cents/km (110km/h)

Town =12-14cents/km

-much better although engine is 1.5litre compared to Saga 1.3litre.

Proton car need to go to gym, loose some extra weight. R&D need to push the limits of their design. Safe (protects occupants) but not too much materials or use locally made engineered (lighter). For instance the engine bay & trunk cover can be made from organic fiber composites (I think can shave some 8-10kg off). These parts are just covers & using composites with uni-directional strength (which is only helpful during crashes).

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than what i saw at the plus highway testdrive

with bodykit and stuff, kinda look like a fat

woman running…

hehe..

if proton leaked them photos,

anonymously people argue here

they got feedback from paultan.org so to speak

would they r&d back design?

interior especially?

hehe, hope they do

so now u guys can give a more constructive

comment on how you actually want national

mpv to look like… kkkkkkkkkkkkkkekekeke

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NOT to those who dream BIG but only have SMALL money (ie: like buying motor trader each month dreaming having CALDINA but only have money to buy AVANZA or EXORA) ..or to those who dream BIG but have a LIL EXTRA money (ie: like decided to buy AVANZA or GRAND LIVINA, and later add bodykits here and there just to SATISFY look like MURANO or CALDINA) .. or even worse to those buying WIRA or WAJA and mods those bodykits and engine to become WIRA-Lution or WAJA-vo..no identity, no brainer..spend that extra money for supercars downpayment..for god sake! (if u can afford one laa..)

Those who buy proton knows what they are buying,knows how to take care and drive a car rather than slam that Perdana Auto gearbox like theres no tomorrow or like its not my car mind set! And some people who bash proton donesnt feel good or any better driving proton coz they afraid their fren or relative using other brands might bash them and they dont have stand why they choose Proton..coz they dont love em' and they just nod to those basher (who technically have more money than they have..)

So, know your Proton, know who can fix it, and know how to drive it..please!

and again,most MALAYSIAN : 'Bagi betis nak peha' attitude..

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support?..hahahaha.. with an experienced of one saga/iswara , a wira one satria neo…after this enough is enough…every 3-4 month had to visit to service center..my Annual leave oso have been waste…

you go and support..for me..its have been enough.

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aku ni bukan jenis nak mengutuk (nak tgk orang mengutuk Proton, tengok kat http://www.topgear.com/uk/proton )

tapi yang okay aku cakap okay la, yang tak ok takkan le aku tak boleh cakap tak okay, tak membantu langsung la macam tu..

untuk kereta ni aku ada teori sendiri, kereta boleh gambarkan macamana sistem berjalan/dibuat dinegara pengeluar tu sendiri. contohnya:

1) japanese: simplify (but sometimes too simple), dikecikkan, dipadatkan, strict pada undang2, unik, berdisplin.

2) continental: dinamik, tepat dan bagus, tetapi terlalu complicated..

3) american: big, brag, tough tapi bukan sume part ok, banyak bahagian sistem yang boleh dipertikaikan..

4) indian,chinese: tengok kete tata/cherry, interprete sendiri

5) malaysian: kat negara kita, sistem yang bagus di sini adalah sistem yang tidak boleh dipertikaikan/unquestionable. sebab apa tak boleh tanya, sebab dia punya manual 5000 muka surat dengan ayat2 bombastik, so ia dikatakan bagus.. pada malaysian, nak banyak jual barang, kena pijak orang lain, no blue ocean strategy..

so balik semula pada bagus/tak bagus, aku cakap la ye..

1) toyota wish: 3rd row must be funny, tak layak utk manusia, sempit dan melambung2 atas hiway

2) honda stream: terima kasih pada cara duduk yang pelik dan memenatkan

3) t.innova: stupidest mpv ever build

4) p.myvi: worse car with high price

5) mee bandung muar (original): sedap

6) pulau sipadan: nice

7) inter-race relation: good
p.wira a/b (not sedan): quite ok

9) p.waja: hampeh

10) RM450 millions R&D for a MPV, tunjukkan kelemahan kita (jangan cakap aku tak tau apa2, i'm education based)

11) proton: not enough loyalty to malaysian, terlalu dipolitikkan, terlalu banyak poket yang perlu diisi, terlalu banyak lubang pembaziran

so, if you think pampering is the only way to handle your naughty son, terpulang le, kalau tak, ada masa lagi..

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if totally different with others… some said "why dont do like wish?"

weird malaysian….

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thats right ardley, those basher will be the first in Proton Edar, to test this Exora..

i like the design and all it feature, value for money, if you want more, then buy other make..its that easy, if you cant afford others, then wake up la..beli apa yang kau mampu..

CITRA LAGI MURAH LA..

NAK COMPARE ENJIN JAUH BEZA.. NAK COMPARE SPEC LAGI LA..

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tak yah jauh la nak compare ngan mitshubishi, honda or toyota..

kia pun lebih kurang 30 years je in this industries.. but tgk je la macam mana diorang nyer kemajuan.. now they can sit among the top in car manufacturer..

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-steering – copied from 2006 honda civic/2009 new city

-rim copied from previous 2004 honda city i-dsi

-meter gauge lighting copied from ribena coloring contest – what a bad taste my god

- shifting panel copied from hesstar vacuum – its like a dustbin to collect rubbish?

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