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	<title>Comments on: HOT: Proton MPV 100% fully uncovered!</title>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-249388</link>
		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no nice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no nice</p>
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		<title>By: CL</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-231399</link>
		<dc:creator>CL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 03:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow what a cool MPV......
Body and bonnet of a Mitsubishi Grandis.....
Top and grill of a Toyota Wish.....
Headlamp of a Honda Accord.....
Steering of Honda City.....
Rear of ISIS.....
etc.....
Really thumbs up for Proton designers!!!! Able to combine so many &quot;makes&quot; design into 1 vehicle that none Japs or Europeans car makers can do.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow what a cool MPV&#8230;&#8230;<br />
Body and bonnet of a Mitsubishi Grandis&#8230;..<br />
Top and grill of a Toyota Wish&#8230;..<br />
Headlamp of a Honda Accord&#8230;..<br />
Steering of Honda City&#8230;..<br />
Rear of ISIS&#8230;..<br />
etc&#8230;..<br />
Really thumbs up for Proton designers!!!! Able to combine so many &#8220;makes&#8221; design into 1 vehicle that none Japs or Europeans car makers can do&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: nak bali jugak</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-228412</link>
		<dc:creator>nak bali jugak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>body kereta memang besar tapi engin berapa CC ni ? fuel comsumtion tinggi tau tidak? 1KM/rm ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>body kereta memang besar tapi engin berapa CC ni ? fuel comsumtion tinggi tau tidak? 1KM/rm ?</p>
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		<title>By: abanglek</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-227823</link>
		<dc:creator>abanglek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>loyalty, proud or whatever comes after honesty &amp; sincerely from manufacturer, not filling thick money to their &amp; related pocket as a priority..

apatah lagi kalau sampai pepatah &#039;kera di hutan disusukan, anak kat rumah mati kelaparan&#039; digunapakai.

imagine le, 1979&#039;s robots from korea still masih guna kat kilang2 parts proton, gile ke, mana la budak2 mekatronik, control, etc semua (Robocon bukan main), manufacturer tolong le kembangkan apa yang budak2 ni dah belajar..

bukan saya mengutuk, atau hina, atau ban barang malaysia, tapi lu pikir la sendiri.. (banyak lagi barang2 Malaysia yg ok, tapi Proton &amp; Perodua, &amp; some electrical appliance not le)

&amp; yang penting, what is your part to our country?, just play safe &amp; make some money? tolong le bertegas sikit (tapi anak kena cuit sikit dengan cikgu, bukan main angin pulak ye?)..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>loyalty, proud or whatever comes after honesty &amp; sincerely from manufacturer, not filling thick money to their &amp; related pocket as a priority..</p>
<p>apatah lagi kalau sampai pepatah &#8216;kera di hutan disusukan, anak kat rumah mati kelaparan&#8217; digunapakai.</p>
<p>imagine le, 1979&#8217;s robots from korea still masih guna kat kilang2 parts proton, gile ke, mana la budak2 mekatronik, control, etc semua (Robocon bukan main), manufacturer tolong le kembangkan apa yang budak2 ni dah belajar..</p>
<p>bukan saya mengutuk, atau hina, atau ban barang malaysia, tapi lu pikir la sendiri.. (banyak lagi barang2 Malaysia yg ok, tapi Proton &amp; Perodua, &amp; some electrical appliance not le)</p>
<p>&amp; yang penting, what is your part to our country?, just play safe &amp; make some money? tolong le bertegas sikit (tapi anak kena cuit sikit dengan cikgu, bukan main angin pulak ye?)..</p>
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		<title>By: redzuan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-227744</link>
		<dc:creator>redzuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What most Malaysian do not understand is that, Korean government FORCED Korean to buy,use and drive ONLY KOREAN CARS for 15 years. That&#039;s how Korean developed and mature their Automotive industries. The FUNDAMENTAL problem with Malaysian is that, even the Government did not fully support their local automotive manufacturers. This translate into disloyalty by Malaysian of their own brand. The government MUST WALKED THE TALKED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What most Malaysian do not understand is that, Korean government FORCED Korean to buy,use and drive ONLY KOREAN CARS for 15 years. That&#8217;s how Korean developed and mature their Automotive industries. The FUNDAMENTAL problem with Malaysian is that, even the Government did not fully support their local automotive manufacturers. This translate into disloyalty by Malaysian of their own brand. The government MUST WALKED THE TALKED.</p>
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		<title>By: abanglek</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-227634</link>
		<dc:creator>abanglek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nak beli ye beli, takde sape nak marah...

sukahati..

* er, jangan lupa ambik proton punya GPS sekali yea (&amp; jangan banding dengan Garmin/Gophers pulak..)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nak beli ye beli, takde sape nak marah&#8230;</p>
<p>sukahati..</p>
<p>* er, jangan lupa ambik proton punya GPS sekali yea (&amp; jangan banding dengan Garmin/Gophers pulak..)</p>
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		<title>By: parasit_kaww</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-227605</link>
		<dc:creator>parasit_kaww</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 04:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bangsat la korang nie..
depa dh buat asyik nk complaint ja..
hagpa bt keta hangpa sendiri..
u all try cretae ur own car..
then i comment la..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bangsat la korang nie..<br />
depa dh buat asyik nk complaint ja..<br />
hagpa bt keta hangpa sendiri..<br />
u all try cretae ur own car..<br />
then i comment la..</p>
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		<title>By: mus</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-227463</link>
		<dc:creator>mus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nak pandu uji dulu baru komen ok</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nak pandu uji dulu baru komen ok</p>
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		<title>By: abc</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-225695</link>
		<dc:creator>abc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are you guys stupid or what? this sucks so bad it makes cherry looks good..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are you guys stupid or what? this sucks so bad it makes cherry looks good..</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-224752</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife and dad are drivi[quote comment=&quot;219078&quot;]To those who support PROTON..just be glad you support some&#039;things&#039; that getting better each year..no worries! Proton will never be BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Toyota, Honda or Nissan..Proton will always stick to its root objectives, providing cars for rakyat..rakyat which means,to those who need car with certain or limited amount of money..

NOT to those who dream BIG but only have SMALL money (ie: like buying motor trader each month dreaming having CALDINA but only have money to buy AVANZA or EXORA) ..or to those who dream BIG but have a LIL EXTRA money (ie: like decided to buy AVANZA or GRAND LIVINA, and later add bodykits here and there just to SATISFY look like MURANO or CALDINA) .. or even worse to those buying WIRA or WAJA and mods those bodykits and engine to become WIRA-Lution or WAJA-vo..no identity, no brainer..spend that extra money for supercars downpayment..for god sake! (if u can afford one laa..)

Those who buy proton knows what they are buying,knows how to take care and drive a car rather than slam that Perdana Auto gearbox like theres no tomorrow or like its not my car mind set! And some people who bash proton donesnt feel good or any better driving proton coz they afraid their fren or relative using other brands might bash them and they dont have stand why they choose Proton..coz they dont love em&#039; and they just nod to those basher (who technically have more money than they have..)

So, know your Proton, know who can fix it, and know how to drive it..please!
and again,most MALAYSIAN : &#039;Bagi betis nak peha&#039; attitude..[/quote]

Agreed..The history of Proton can not be compared to those BIG names and Proton should be given times and good management to improve on their technologies and design. Slight improvement can be seen from year to year but it just can not run away from the image of Mitsubishi. But credit should be given to Proton for making efforts. 
The cons of Protons are the price and quality ratio is still considered to be expensive (compare to those BIG names especially from Japan) considered Protons to be local made and design cars. I believe most Malaysian do not hate/dislike Proton it is just that Proton does not give good impressions to us Malaysian. I asked those people I know who drive Proton ALL of them told me that the only reason they buy Proton is because it is &quot;Cheap&quot; and it&#039;s the only option they can afford but again they have to compensate for &quot;price to quality&quot;  ratio which is comparatively expensive. Many of my relatives are still really proud of the 1st generation of Proton Saga that they owned not because of its the 1st &quot;National&quot; car but because of the &quot;price to quality&quot; ratio which is reasonably good. 
I would really like to see the government slowly open up the automobile market so that the industry can be come more competitive. I believe with a reasonable competition Proton will step on the pedal to make good quality and reasonably price cars. Everybody know that a good competition bring out the best of all of us. We all cant stay forever under the wings of our parents/government. Let Proton flap their wings and soar. Show the world Proton may not be the BIG names but the day will come. Let make our nation proud with genuine Quality, Style and Price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and dad are drivi[quote comment="219078"]To those who support PROTON..just be glad you support some&#8217;things&#8217; that getting better each year..no worries! Proton will never be BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Toyota, Honda or Nissan..Proton will always stick to its root objectives, providing cars for rakyat..rakyat which means,to those who need car with certain or limited amount of money..</p>
<p>NOT to those who dream BIG but only have SMALL money (ie: like buying motor trader each month dreaming having CALDINA but only have money to buy AVANZA or EXORA) ..or to those who dream BIG but have a LIL EXTRA money (ie: like decided to buy AVANZA or GRAND LIVINA, and later add bodykits here and there just to SATISFY look like MURANO or CALDINA) .. or even worse to those buying WIRA or WAJA and mods those bodykits and engine to become WIRA-Lution or WAJA-vo..no identity, no brainer..spend that extra money for supercars downpayment..for god sake! (if u can afford one laa..)</p>
<p>Those who buy proton knows what they are buying,knows how to take care and drive a car rather than slam that Perdana Auto gearbox like theres no tomorrow or like its not my car mind set! And some people who bash proton donesnt feel good or any better driving proton coz they afraid their fren or relative using other brands might bash them and they dont have stand why they choose Proton..coz they dont love em&#8217; and they just nod to those basher (who technically have more money than they have..)</p>
<p>So, know your Proton, know who can fix it, and know how to drive it..please!<br />
and again,most MALAYSIAN : &#8216;Bagi betis nak peha&#8217; attitude..[/quote]</p>
<p>Agreed..The history of Proton can not be compared to those BIG names and Proton should be given times and good management to improve on their technologies and design. Slight improvement can be seen from year to year but it just can not run away from the image of Mitsubishi. But credit should be given to Proton for making efforts.<br />
The cons of Protons are the price and quality ratio is still considered to be expensive (compare to those BIG names especially from Japan) considered Protons to be local made and design cars. I believe most Malaysian do not hate/dislike Proton it is just that Proton does not give good impressions to us Malaysian. I asked those people I know who drive Proton ALL of them told me that the only reason they buy Proton is because it is &#8220;Cheap&#8221; and it&#8217;s the only option they can afford but again they have to compensate for &#8220;price to quality&#8221;  ratio which is comparatively expensive. Many of my relatives are still really proud of the 1st generation of Proton Saga that they owned not because of its the 1st &#8220;National&#8221; car but because of the &#8220;price to quality&#8221; ratio which is reasonably good.<br />
I would really like to see the government slowly open up the automobile market so that the industry can be come more competitive. I believe with a reasonable competition Proton will step on the pedal to make good quality and reasonably price cars. Everybody know that a good competition bring out the best of all of us. We all cant stay forever under the wings of our parents/government. Let Proton flap their wings and soar. Show the world Proton may not be the BIG names but the day will come. Let make our nation proud with genuine Quality, Style and Price.</p>
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		<title>By: kopial</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-221676</link>
		<dc:creator>kopial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 05:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they are really for the people...please care for the people&#039;s pocket. Fuel consumption need to be top class. Bring in the Gen-2 E.V.E for the rakyat, even at RM80-100k, still cheaper than Honda Civic Hybrid RM180K. 
But then if fuel consumption too good, then Petronas will lose out.

I drive the Saga BLM, fuel consumption ok for highway but in town quite bad.
Highway = 10-11cents/km
Town = 15-18cents/km

My friend&#039;s Honda City:
Highway = 9-10cents/km (110km/h)
Town =12-14cents/km
-much better although engine is 1.5litre compared to Saga 1.3litre.

Proton car need to go to gym, loose some extra weight. R&amp;D need to push the limits of their design. Safe (protects occupants) but not too much materials or use locally made engineered (lighter). For instance the engine bay &amp; trunk cover can be made from organic fiber composites (I think can shave some 8-10kg off). These parts are just covers &amp; using composites with uni-directional strength (which is only helpful during crashes).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they are really for the people&#8230;please care for the people&#8217;s pocket. Fuel consumption need to be top class. Bring in the Gen-2 E.V.E for the rakyat, even at RM80-100k, still cheaper than Honda Civic Hybrid RM180K.<br />
But then if fuel consumption too good, then Petronas will lose out.</p>
<p>I drive the Saga BLM, fuel consumption ok for highway but in town quite bad.<br />
Highway = 10-11cents/km<br />
Town = 15-18cents/km</p>
<p>My friend&#8217;s Honda City:<br />
Highway = 9-10cents/km (110km/h)<br />
Town =12-14cents/km<br />
-much better although engine is 1.5litre compared to Saga 1.3litre.</p>
<p>Proton car need to go to gym, loose some extra weight. R&amp;D need to push the limits of their design. Safe (protects occupants) but not too much materials or use locally made engineered (lighter). For instance the engine bay &amp; trunk cover can be made from organic fiber composites (I think can shave some 8-10kg off). These parts are just covers &amp; using composites with uni-directional strength (which is only helpful during crashes).</p>
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		<title>By: ikster</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-219848</link>
		<dc:creator>ikster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is that how it looks like, much cooler
than what i saw at the plus highway testdrive
with bodykit and stuff, kinda look like a fat
woman running...

hehe..

if proton leaked them photos,
anonymously people argue here
they got feedback from paultan.org so to speak
would they r&amp;d back design?
interior especially?
hehe, hope they do

so now u guys can give a more constructive
comment on how you actually want national
mpv to look like... kkkkkkkkkkkkkkekekeke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is that how it looks like, much cooler<br />
than what i saw at the plus highway testdrive<br />
with bodykit and stuff, kinda look like a fat<br />
woman running&#8230;</p>
<p>hehe..</p>
<p>if proton leaked them photos,<br />
anonymously people argue here<br />
they got feedback from paultan.org so to speak<br />
would they r&amp;d back design?<br />
interior especially?<br />
hehe, hope they do</p>
<p>so now u guys can give a more constructive<br />
comment on how you actually want national<br />
mpv to look like&#8230; kkkkkkkkkkkkkkekekeke</p>
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		<title>By: malaysian</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-219292</link>
		<dc:creator>malaysian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Done Proton, those who are dissatisfied plis dun buy our national car anymore and i hope u guys can use ur moron mind to create ur own brand+style car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Done Proton, those who are dissatisfied plis dun buy our national car anymore and i hope u guys can use ur moron mind to create ur own brand+style car.</p>
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		<title>By: Hafidz Moro</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-219078</link>
		<dc:creator>Hafidz Moro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those who support PROTON..just be glad you support some&#039;things&#039; that getting better each year..no worries! Proton will never be BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Toyota, Honda or Nissan..Proton will always stick to its root objectives, providing cars for rakyat..rakyat which means,to those who need car with certain or limited amount of money..

NOT to those who dream BIG but only have SMALL money (ie: like buying motor trader each month dreaming having CALDINA but only have money to buy AVANZA or EXORA) ..or to those who dream BIG but have a LIL EXTRA money (ie: like decided to buy AVANZA or GRAND LIVINA, and later add bodykits here and there just to SATISFY look like MURANO or CALDINA) .. or even worse to those buying WIRA or WAJA and mods those bodykits and engine to become WIRA-Lution or WAJA-vo..no identity, no brainer..spend that extra money for supercars downpayment..for god sake! (if u can afford one laa..)

Those who buy proton knows what they are buying,knows how to take care and drive a car rather than slam that Perdana Auto gearbox like theres no tomorrow or like its not my car mind set! And some people who bash proton donesnt feel good or any better driving proton coz they afraid their fren or relative using other brands might bash them and they dont have stand why they choose Proton..coz they dont love em&#039; and they just nod to those basher (who technically have more money than they have..)

So, know your Proton, know who can fix it, and know how to drive it..please!
and again,most MALAYSIAN : &#039;Bagi betis nak peha&#039; attitude..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those who support PROTON..just be glad you support some&#8217;things&#8217; that getting better each year..no worries! Proton will never be BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Toyota, Honda or Nissan..Proton will always stick to its root objectives, providing cars for rakyat..rakyat which means,to those who need car with certain or limited amount of money..</p>
<p>NOT to those who dream BIG but only have SMALL money (ie: like buying motor trader each month dreaming having CALDINA but only have money to buy AVANZA or EXORA) ..or to those who dream BIG but have a LIL EXTRA money (ie: like decided to buy AVANZA or GRAND LIVINA, and later add bodykits here and there just to SATISFY look like MURANO or CALDINA) .. or even worse to those buying WIRA or WAJA and mods those bodykits and engine to become WIRA-Lution or WAJA-vo..no identity, no brainer..spend that extra money for supercars downpayment..for god sake! (if u can afford one laa..)</p>
<p>Those who buy proton knows what they are buying,knows how to take care and drive a car rather than slam that Perdana Auto gearbox like theres no tomorrow or like its not my car mind set! And some people who bash proton donesnt feel good or any better driving proton coz they afraid their fren or relative using other brands might bash them and they dont have stand why they choose Proton..coz they dont love em&#8217; and they just nod to those basher (who technically have more money than they have..)</p>
<p>So, know your Proton, know who can fix it, and know how to drive it..please!<br />
and again,most MALAYSIAN : &#8216;Bagi betis nak peha&#8217; attitude..</p>
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		<title>By: Satria Neo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-218357</link>
		<dc:creator>Satria Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 16:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;218331&quot;]salam...when we looked the shot of the proton exora, it&#039;s mean the quality of malaysian automobile were improving from time to time.  It&#039;s shows the quality of attitude to those involved in this proton exora making.  And it&#039;s going better and better after the lauching.  So, keep supporting Malaysian national cars rather then proud with your Grandis or whatever.  I&#039;ll suggest to those always condemed and blaming the quality of proton exora,  see the MPV at the showroom personally (after launching) and give the opinion.[/quote]
support?..hahahaha.. with an experienced of one saga/iswara , a wira one satria neo...after this enough is enough...every 3-4 month had to visit to service center..my Annual leave oso have been waste...
you go and support..for me..its have been enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="218331"]salam&#8230;when we looked the shot of the proton exora, it&#8217;s mean the quality of malaysian automobile were improving from time to time.  It&#8217;s shows the quality of attitude to those involved in this proton exora making.  And it&#8217;s going better and better after the lauching.  So, keep supporting Malaysian national cars rather then proud with your Grandis or whatever.  I&#8217;ll suggest to those always condemed and blaming the quality of proton exora,  see the MPV at the showroom personally (after launching) and give the opinion.[/quote]<br />
support?..hahahaha.. with an experienced of one saga/iswara , a wira one satria neo&#8230;after this enough is enough&#8230;every 3-4 month had to visit to service center..my Annual leave oso have been waste&#8230;<br />
you go and support..for me..its have been enough.</p>
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		<title>By: badaksumbu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-218331</link>
		<dc:creator>badaksumbu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>salam...when we looked the shot of the proton exora, it&#039;s mean the quality of malaysian automobile were improving from time to time.  It&#039;s shows the quality of attitude to those involved in this proton exora making.  And it&#039;s going better and better after the lauching.  So, keep supporting Malaysian national cars rather then proud with your Grandis or whatever.  I&#039;ll suggest to those always condemed and blaming the quality of proton exora,  see the MPV at the showroom personally (after launching) and give the opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>salam&#8230;when we looked the shot of the proton exora, it&#8217;s mean the quality of malaysian automobile were improving from time to time.  It&#8217;s shows the quality of attitude to those involved in this proton exora making.  And it&#8217;s going better and better after the lauching.  So, keep supporting Malaysian national cars rather then proud with your Grandis or whatever.  I&#8217;ll suggest to those always condemed and blaming the quality of proton exora,  see the MPV at the showroom personally (after launching) and give the opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: abanglek</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-217861</link>
		<dc:creator>abanglek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aku ni totally malaysian, overrall aku cakap malaysia ni okay, comparing some other countries..

aku ni bukan jenis nak mengutuk (nak tgk orang mengutuk Proton, tengok kat http://www.topgear.com/uk/proton )

tapi yang okay aku cakap okay la, yang tak ok takkan le aku tak boleh cakap tak okay, tak membantu langsung la macam tu..

untuk kereta ni aku ada teori sendiri, kereta boleh gambarkan macamana sistem berjalan/dibuat dinegara pengeluar tu sendiri. contohnya: 
1) japanese: simplify (but sometimes too simple), dikecikkan, dipadatkan, strict pada undang2, unik, berdisplin.
2) continental: dinamik, tepat dan bagus, tetapi terlalu complicated..
3) american: big, brag, tough tapi bukan sume part ok, banyak bahagian sistem yang boleh dipertikaikan..
4) indian,chinese: tengok kete tata/cherry, interprete sendiri
5) malaysian: kat negara kita, sistem yang bagus di sini adalah sistem yang tidak boleh dipertikaikan/unquestionable. sebab apa tak boleh tanya, sebab dia punya manual 5000 muka surat dengan ayat2 bombastik, so ia dikatakan bagus.. pada malaysian, nak banyak jual barang, kena pijak orang lain, no blue ocean strategy..

so balik semula pada bagus/tak bagus, aku cakap la ye..
1) toyota wish: 3rd row must be funny, tak layak utk manusia, sempit dan melambung2 atas hiway
2) honda stream: terima kasih pada cara duduk yang pelik dan memenatkan
3) t.innova: stupidest mpv ever build
4) p.myvi: worse car with high price
5) mee bandung muar (original): sedap
6) pulau sipadan: nice
7) inter-race relation: good
8) p.wira a/b (not sedan): quite ok
9) p.waja: hampeh
10) RM450 millions R&amp;D for a MPV, tunjukkan kelemahan kita (jangan cakap aku tak tau apa2, i&#039;m education based)
11) proton: not enough loyalty to malaysian, terlalu dipolitikkan, terlalu banyak poket yang perlu diisi, terlalu banyak lubang pembaziran

so, if you think pampering is the only way to handle your naughty son, terpulang le, kalau tak, ada masa lagi..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aku ni totally malaysian, overrall aku cakap malaysia ni okay, comparing some other countries..</p>
<p>aku ni bukan jenis nak mengutuk (nak tgk orang mengutuk Proton, tengok kat <a href="http://www.topgear.com/uk/proton" rel="nofollow">http://www.topgear.com/uk/proton</a> )</p>
<p>tapi yang okay aku cakap okay la, yang tak ok takkan le aku tak boleh cakap tak okay, tak membantu langsung la macam tu..</p>
<p>untuk kereta ni aku ada teori sendiri, kereta boleh gambarkan macamana sistem berjalan/dibuat dinegara pengeluar tu sendiri. contohnya:<br />
1) japanese: simplify (but sometimes too simple), dikecikkan, dipadatkan, strict pada undang2, unik, berdisplin.<br />
2) continental: dinamik, tepat dan bagus, tetapi terlalu complicated..<br />
3) american: big, brag, tough tapi bukan sume part ok, banyak bahagian sistem yang boleh dipertikaikan..<br />
4) indian,chinese: tengok kete tata/cherry, interprete sendiri<br />
5) malaysian: kat negara kita, sistem yang bagus di sini adalah sistem yang tidak boleh dipertikaikan/unquestionable. sebab apa tak boleh tanya, sebab dia punya manual 5000 muka surat dengan ayat2 bombastik, so ia dikatakan bagus.. pada malaysian, nak banyak jual barang, kena pijak orang lain, no blue ocean strategy..</p>
<p>so balik semula pada bagus/tak bagus, aku cakap la ye..<br />
1) toyota wish: 3rd row must be funny, tak layak utk manusia, sempit dan melambung2 atas hiway<br />
2) honda stream: terima kasih pada cara duduk yang pelik dan memenatkan<br />
3) t.innova: stupidest mpv ever build<br />
4) p.myvi: worse car with high price<br />
5) mee bandung muar (original): sedap<br />
6) pulau sipadan: nice<br />
7) inter-race relation: good<br />
 <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> p.wira a/b (not sedan): quite ok<br />
9) p.waja: hampeh<br />
10) RM450 millions R&amp;D for a MPV, tunjukkan kelemahan kita (jangan cakap aku tak tau apa2, i&#8217;m education based)<br />
11) proton: not enough loyalty to malaysian, terlalu dipolitikkan, terlalu banyak poket yang perlu diisi, terlalu banyak lubang pembaziran</p>
<p>so, if you think pampering is the only way to handle your naughty son, terpulang le, kalau tak, ada masa lagi..</p>
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		<title>By: autojohndoe</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-217712</link>
		<dc:creator>autojohndoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if similar to others... some said copy.... 

if totally different with others... some said &quot;why dont do like wish?&quot;

weird malaysian....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if similar to others&#8230; some said copy&#8230;. </p>
<p>if totally different with others&#8230; some said &#8220;why dont do like wish?&#8221;</p>
<p>weird malaysian&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: satria neo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-217647</link>
		<dc:creator>satria neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..its cherry..design almost same like cherry!..hahahah..what a joke la proton!!...feel ashame owning a neo now..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..its cherry..design almost same like cherry!..hahahah..what a joke la proton!!&#8230;feel ashame owning a neo now..</p>
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		<title>By: lancer_e2</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-217195</link>
		<dc:creator>lancer_e2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>afroiq wrote:

thats right ardley, those basher will be the first in Proton Edar, to test this Exora..

i like the design and all it feature, value for money, if you want more, then buy other make..its that easy, if you cant afford others, then wake up la..beli apa yang kau mampu..

CITRA LAGI MURAH LA..
NAK COMPARE ENJIN JAUH BEZA.. NAK COMPARE SPEC LAGI LA..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>afroiq wrote:</p>
<p>thats right ardley, those basher will be the first in Proton Edar, to test this Exora..</p>
<p>i like the design and all it feature, value for money, if you want more, then buy other make..its that easy, if you cant afford others, then wake up la..beli apa yang kau mampu..</p>
<p>CITRA LAGI MURAH LA..<br />
NAK COMPARE ENJIN JAUH BEZA.. NAK COMPARE SPEC LAGI LA..</p>
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		<title>By: lancer_e2</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-217193</link>
		<dc:creator>lancer_e2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>biasa je kereta nie.. byk ciplak.. 24 thn still copy orang lain..
tak yah jauh la nak compare ngan mitshubishi, honda or toyota..
kia pun lebih kurang 30 years je in this industries.. but tgk je la macam mana diorang nyer kemajuan.. now they can sit among the top in car manufacturer..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>biasa je kereta nie.. byk ciplak.. 24 thn still copy orang lain..<br />
tak yah jauh la nak compare ngan mitshubishi, honda or toyota..<br />
kia pun lebih kurang 30 years je in this industries.. but tgk je la macam mana diorang nyer kemajuan.. now they can sit among the top in car manufacturer..</p>
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		<title>By: KENNY KHOR</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-216932</link>
		<dc:creator>KENNY KHOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the price is still high. The taiwanese built a toyota wish with 2.0 l engine only at RM70,000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the price is still high. The taiwanese built a toyota wish with 2.0 l engine only at RM70,000.</p>
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		<title>By: support proton cars</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-216917</link>
		<dc:creator>support proton cars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sudah 24 tahun proton bertapak,dalam mase tu proton da banyak belajar. jangan la pandang brand mitibishi,honda,toyota,etc.. dorang da lebih 50 tahun bertapak.. of course laa dorang lebih pro gile babi pasal kereta.. proton suda cuba sedaye upaye nak bwat exora.. alaaa....  aku mengaku yang brand len lebih power dari proton.. tapi try la support malaysian brand yang berusia 24 tahun nie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sudah 24 tahun proton bertapak,dalam mase tu proton da banyak belajar. jangan la pandang brand mitibishi,honda,toyota,etc.. dorang da lebih 50 tahun bertapak.. of course laa dorang lebih pro gile babi pasal kereta.. proton suda cuba sedaye upaye nak bwat exora.. alaaa&#8230;.  aku mengaku yang brand len lebih power dari proton.. tapi try la support malaysian brand yang berusia 24 tahun nie.</p>
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		<title>By: support proton cars</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-216913</link>
		<dc:creator>support proton cars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tak baik tau kalau asyik menghentam proton tau, kesian die..ok lah proton exora tu..walaupun mpv tu copy sebjik sebijik cam mpv lain.tapi at least dorang dah buktikan yang malaysia boleh dan dorang boleh membina sebuah mpv!! cube korang tengok indonesia, thailand,singapura,burma, tak de brand sendiri kan ?!hey, bukan senang tau nak produce sebuah mpv. support lah sikit.kalau kite tak support malaysian brand.. sape lagi,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tak baik tau kalau asyik menghentam proton tau, kesian die..ok lah proton exora tu..walaupun mpv tu copy sebjik sebijik cam mpv lain.tapi at least dorang dah buktikan yang malaysia boleh dan dorang boleh membina sebuah mpv!! cube korang tengok indonesia, thailand,singapura,burma, tak de brand sendiri kan ?!hey, bukan senang tau nak produce sebuah mpv. support lah sikit.kalau kite tak support malaysian brand.. sape lagi,</p>
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		<title>By: rubapoison kiss</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-216207</link>
		<dc:creator>rubapoison kiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 10:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>boring saja tak cantik pun interiornya terlalu rinkas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boring saja tak cantik pun interiornya terlalu rinkas</p>
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		<title>By: we love malaysia</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-216124</link>
		<dc:creator>we love malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 03:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok la..at least ade kemajuan..jgn tau nk menghentam je..bkn senang nk design sesebuah kereta…sesuai la dgn teknologi yg kita ade skrg..jgn la nk banding negara kite dgn jepun yg 10 tahun maju kehadapan..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok la..at least ade kemajuan..jgn tau nk menghentam je..bkn senang nk design sesebuah kereta…sesuai la dgn teknologi yg kita ade skrg..jgn la nk banding negara kite dgn jepun yg 10 tahun maju kehadapan..</p>
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		<title>By: we love malaysia</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-216122</link>
		<dc:creator>we love malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 03:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok la..at least ade kemajuan..jgn tau nk menghentam je..bkn senang nk design sesebuah kereta...sesuai la dgn teknologi yg kita ade skrg..jgn la nk banding negara kite dgn jepun yg 10 tahun maju kehadapan..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok la..at least ade kemajuan..jgn tau nk menghentam je..bkn senang nk design sesebuah kereta&#8230;sesuai la dgn teknologi yg kita ade skrg..jgn la nk banding negara kite dgn jepun yg 10 tahun maju kehadapan..</p>
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		<title>By: maaja</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-216043</link>
		<dc:creator>maaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-front looks like mazda 1st generation, 
-steering - copied from 2006 honda civic/2009 new city
-rim copied from previous 2004 honda city i-dsi
-meter gauge lighting copied from ribena coloring contest - what a bad taste my god
- shifting panel copied from hesstar vacuum - its like a dustbin to collect rubbish?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-front looks like mazda 1st generation,<br />
-steering &#8211; copied from 2006 honda civic/2009 new city<br />
-rim copied from previous 2004 honda city i-dsi<br />
-meter gauge lighting copied from ribena coloring contest &#8211; what a bad taste my god<br />
- shifting panel copied from hesstar vacuum &#8211; its like a dustbin to collect rubbish?</p>
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		<title>By: ex-protonian</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-216040</link>
		<dc:creator>ex-protonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i remembered of an old phrase
don&#039;t judge by its cover..

the previous issues with proton are not about its design, but the basic quality, no one knows the real worth of this MPV.. hopefully the gearbox doesn&#039;t fell off like it does for my previous proton!! not a joke, its true. whatever it is, i promised to myself to not to buy a proton even if i gets it for free, i will rather sell off and use a motorbike instead.. so disappointed, not once or twice.. but uncountable..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i remembered of an old phrase<br />
don&#8217;t judge by its cover..</p>
<p>the previous issues with proton are not about its design, but the basic quality, no one knows the real worth of this MPV.. hopefully the gearbox doesn&#8217;t fell off like it does for my previous proton!! not a joke, its true. whatever it is, i promised to myself to not to buy a proton even if i gets it for free, i will rather sell off and use a motorbike instead.. so disappointed, not once or twice.. but uncountable..</p>
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		<title>By: Ash Menon</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/23/hot-proton-mpv-100-fully-uncovered/#comment-215595</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash Menon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol. to all of you who are condemning the traitorous proton employee for leaking company secrets, i&#039;d just like to let you know, that intentional leaking to create buzz and gossip is a very common and effective tactic used in marketing, regardless of the industry. 

of course, if you were to tell a proton CEO about this leak, he&#039;d definitely gasp in shock, but just don&#039;t be too surprised if you find him hurriedly switching off his computer monitor as you&#039;re entering the room. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol. to all of you who are condemning the traitorous proton employee for leaking company secrets, i&#8217;d just like to let you know, that intentional leaking to create buzz and gossip is a very common and effective tactic used in marketing, regardless of the industry. </p>
<p>of course, if you were to tell a proton CEO about this leak, he&#8217;d definitely gasp in shock, but just don&#8217;t be too surprised if you find him hurriedly switching off his computer monitor as you&#8217;re entering the room. <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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