Comments on: Lexus LS flagship may get baseline V6 engine http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sun, 27 May 2012 03:34:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Tan GH http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-285605 Tan GH Thu, 24 Dec 2009 22:55:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-285605 I have driven a Lex LS460L from Singapore to Penang, non stop except for lunch in KL. Ultra smooth, fast high speed crusing, fast overtaking, the owner fell asleep at the back. I did not fell tired at all, and the high-fi was superb, No BMW or MB stereo could match. Even though the car was 1 year old, it felt like it's just out of the showroom, the engine, suspension, is just faultless If I can afford the insurance and road tax, this is the ultimate super saloon for me, In the automobile business since 1970, I have the experience to judge and comment, this is one of the best luxury saloon for our Malaysian roads. I have driven a Lex LS460L from Singapore to Penang, non stop except for lunch in KL. Ultra smooth, fast high speed crusing, fast overtaking, the owner fell asleep at the back. I did not fell tired at all, and the high-fi was superb, No BMW or MB stereo could match. Even though the car was 1 year old, it felt like it's just out of the showroom, the engine, suspension, is just faultless If I can afford the insurance and road tax, this is the ultimate super saloon for me, In the automobile business since 1970, I have the experience to judge and comment, this is one of the best luxury saloon for our Malaysian roads.

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]]> By: ktas09 http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-268340 ktas09 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:41:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-268340 Prefer a reliable & comfortable car rather than fast car. The answer is LEXUS. Prefer a reliable & comfortable car rather than fast car. The answer is LEXUS.

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]]> By: adam http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-219810 adam Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:06:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-219810 Lexus is not just another TOYOTA. And anyways, people who say that are just complimenting it really, even when they are trying to insult it. TOYOTA's are know worldwide for reliability, quality and top end engineering. Just examine and drive one and you'll see what I mean. Lexus just builds on this by being the most reknown and acclaimed Manufacturer in the world. The Lexus LS has been on JD powers best car in the world for over 16 years now. SO those GERMAN CAR FANS need to look at the facts before speaking. Just to let you know, the BMW 7 Series was one of the least reliable vehicles in 1999 and the MERCEDES M CLASS was the least satisfying car in the world And this is a FACT, No Japanese Car has ever been on the bottom on any survey or awards list, (Except for style), Which is why Japan is the worlds most prolific Automobile Nation in the world Lexus is not just another TOYOTA. And anyways, people who say that are just complimenting it really, even when they are trying to insult it.

TOYOTA's are know worldwide for reliability, quality and top end engineering. Just examine and drive one and you'll see what I mean.

Lexus just builds on this by being the most reknown and acclaimed Manufacturer in the world.

The Lexus LS has been on JD powers best car in the world for over 16 years now.

SO those GERMAN CAR FANS need to look at the facts before speaking.

Just to let you know, the BMW 7 Series was one of the least reliable vehicles in 1999 and the MERCEDES M CLASS was the least satisfying car in the world

And this is a FACT, No Japanese Car has ever been on the bottom on any survey or awards list, (Except for style), Which is why Japan is the worlds most prolific Automobile Nation in the world

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]]> By: Xx- Ferrari -xX http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-205421 Xx- Ferrari -xX Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:15:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-205421 Sex is wonderful, but it’s like champagne.If you’re forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water. said, February 1, 2009 @ 2:32 am lambov12 said, January 31, 2009 @ 11:34 am Sex is wonderful, but it’s like champagne.If you’re forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water. said, January 29, 2009 @ 3:49 pm i rather have a ford mondeo ——————————————————————- Cheers up ! I support you ! ————— will malaysia ever have the mondeo or insignia, im sick of te stupud camry --------------------------------------------- well then, what those bleedy AP holders are doing... actually AP holders can import any cars into Malaysia rite ??? So, they can bring in these two cars also rite ??? Please correct me if im wrong coz i dont really know much stuff about AP system in malaysia.... Sex is wonderful, but it’s like champagne.If you’re forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water. said,
February 1, 2009 @ 2:32 am

lambov12 said,

January 31, 2009 @ 11:34 am

Sex is wonderful, but it’s like champagne.If you’re forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water. said,

January 29, 2009 @ 3:49 pm

i rather have a ford mondeo

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Cheers up ! I support you !
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will malaysia ever have the mondeo or insignia, im sick of te stupud camry

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well then, what those bleedy AP holders are doing… actually AP holders can import any cars into Malaysia rite ??? So, they can bring in these two cars also rite ??? Please correct me if im wrong coz i dont really know much stuff about AP system in malaysia….

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]]> By: Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water. http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-205318 Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water. Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:32:32 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-205318 lambov12 said, January 31, 2009 @ 11:34 am Sex is wonderful, but it’s like champagne.If you’re forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water. said, January 29, 2009 @ 3:49 pm i rather have a ford mondeo ——————————————————————- Cheers up ! I support you ! --------------- will malaysia ever have the mondeo or insignia, im sick of te stupud camry lambov12 said,

January 31, 2009 @ 11:34 am

Sex is wonderful, but it’s like champagne.If you’re forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water. said,

January 29, 2009 @ 3:49 pm

i rather have a ford mondeo

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Cheers up ! I support you !
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will malaysia ever have the mondeo or insignia, im sick of te stupud camry

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]]> By: lambov12 http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-205218 lambov12 Sat, 31 Jan 2009 03:34:02 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-205218 Sex is wonderful, but it’s like champagne.If you’re forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water. said, January 29, 2009 @ 3:49 pm i rather have a ford mondeo ------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheers up ! I support you ! Sex is wonderful, but it’s like champagne.If you’re forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water. said,

January 29, 2009 @ 3:49 pm

i rather have a ford mondeo

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Cheers up ! I support you !

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]]> By: hidrogentank http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-205184 hidrogentank Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:16:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-205184 Kevin Lee said, January 29, 2009 @ 4:22 am lexus is basically a toyota with wood. better buy a camry to save money or just buy the german makes -------------------------------------------------------------- whoalao..id take it that youre a damn rich ass person right..??...well i personally couldnt agree more......then the german makes are just a bunch of "mondeos" stuck to REALLY expensive badges Kevin Lee said,
January 29, 2009 @ 4:22 am

lexus is basically a toyota with wood. better buy a camry to save money or just buy the german makes

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whoalao..id take it that youre a damn rich ass person right..??…well i personally couldnt agree more……then the german makes are just a bunch of “mondeos” stuck to REALLY expensive badges

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]]> By: Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water. http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-205105 Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water. Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:08:13 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-205105 i'd buy less louis vuitton and buy a rolls royce i’d buy less louis vuitton and buy a rolls royce

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]]> By: king http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-204879 king Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:45:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-204879 No, lexus LS is just a camry with more wood and a built in massage chair.. No, lexus LS is just a camry with more wood and a built in massage chair..

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]]> By: Xx- Ferrari -xX http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-204876 Xx- Ferrari -xX Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:22:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-204876 better go for S-class or 7-series !!! Latest long wheelbase 7-series should be better !!! better go for S-class or 7-series !!! Latest long wheelbase 7-series should be better !!!

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]]> By: csv http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-204864 csv Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:38:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-204864 oh i seen this car in person, registered. guess how much the road tax is. 22k. yeah, you read it right. 22,000 Ringgit Malaysia. but i think thats a company registered vehicle as its pretty damn ex for tax alone. oh i seen this car in person, registered.

guess how much the road tax is.

22k. yeah, you read it right. 22,000 Ringgit Malaysia.

but i think thats a company registered vehicle as its pretty damn ex for tax alone.

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]]> By: mitlanevo http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-204849 mitlanevo Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:46:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-204849 typical mentality of most Malaysians: better get a 7-series or S-class...... typical mentality of most Malaysians:

better get a 7-series or S-class……

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]]> By: Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water. http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-204821 Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water. Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:12:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-204821 common-sensor said, January 29, 2009 @ 4:59 pm Its QUALITY may be superior than the Germans, but it is lacking in CHARACTER. So, I’d go with the Germans makes. ---------------- the british quality is way superior common-sensor said,

January 29, 2009 @ 4:59 pm

Its QUALITY may be superior than the Germans, but it is lacking in CHARACTER. So, I’d go with the Germans makes.
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the british quality is way superior

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]]> By: common-sensor http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-204815 common-sensor Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:59:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-204815 Its QUALITY may be superior than the Germans, but it is lacking in CHARACTER. So, I'd go with the Germans makes. Its QUALITY may be superior than the Germans, but it is lacking in CHARACTER. So, I’d go with the Germans makes.

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]]> By: Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water. http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-204805 Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water. Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:49:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-204805 i rather have a ford mondeo i rather have a ford mondeo

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]]> By: BanyakMasukWorkshop http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-204789 BanyakMasukWorkshop Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:25:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-204789 i think its difficult to make a real direct comparison i've only ever driven an is200, but never experienced the larger lexus cars, but the legendary smoothness of the bmw straight-six engine is no slouch either, let alone the sound it makes. i'm not too sure about the 50 sen coin thing on the dash, and decided to experiment with my own car, the result? no movement or vibration of the coin when i started the engine as well. not even when i revved up to 6500rpm and held it there. but personally, i think that hardly tells us anything about a car.. remember the glass of water on the engine of the nissan V6? does that mean its smoother and more refined than the lexus? i do agree though that lexus cars are very refined, well built and are of the highest quality you can expect in a car... but, i find them extremely boring. to drive and to look at. to me, what makes a car great is not how well its built, or that it never breaks down.. the longevity of the car and its desireability depends on what happens after 10 years.. just look at the amount of well cared for alfa romeos and their diehard fans as one simple example.. to cut things short.. the lexus is a good car. it will be well worth your money if you can afford it. but i dont think its going to be much of a collectors car. and in ending, no. you do not make a lexus cheaper to "compete" with the competition. its a luxury marque, and you do not fight on price, ever. if its not selling well, its not the price, but the brand is most likely at fault. i think its difficult to make a real direct comparison i’ve only ever driven an is200, but never experienced the larger lexus cars, but the legendary smoothness of the bmw straight-six engine is no slouch either, let alone the sound it makes. i’m not too sure about the 50 sen coin thing on the dash, and decided to experiment with my own car, the result? no movement or vibration of the coin when i started the engine as well. not even when i revved up to 6500rpm and held it there. but personally, i think that hardly tells us anything about a car.. remember the glass of water on the engine of the nissan V6? does that mean its smoother and more refined than the lexus?

i do agree though that lexus cars are very refined, well built and are of the highest quality you can expect in a car… but, i find them extremely boring. to drive and to look at.

to me, what makes a car great is not how well its built, or that it never breaks down.. the longevity of the car and its desireability depends on what happens after 10 years.. just look at the amount of well cared for alfa romeos and their diehard fans as one simple example..

to cut things short.. the lexus is a good car. it will be well worth your money if you can afford it. but i dont think its going to be much of a collectors car.

and in ending, no. you do not make a lexus cheaper to “compete” with the competition. its a luxury marque, and you do not fight on price, ever. if its not selling well, its not the price, but the brand is most likely at fault.

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]]> By: 8918 http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-204786 8918 Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:40:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-204786 Anyone can comment on the comparison of quality by Merc...BMW an Lexus?Just forget the brand name a while and is Lexus really better than those german marque?I can remember that during a Auto show,Lexus start the engine by putting a coin on top of the dashboard and yet the coin does not move/vibrate ...I have know some of the BMW 5 Series driver's who actually commenting that Lexus is very "geng" wor! Anyone can comment on the comparison of quality by Merc…BMW an Lexus?Just forget the brand name a while and is Lexus really better than those german marque?I can remember that during a Auto show,Lexus start the engine by putting a coin on top of the dashboard and yet the coin does not move/vibrate …I have know some of the BMW 5 Series driver’s who actually commenting that Lexus is very “geng” wor!

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]]> By: BrakeFader http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-204782 BrakeFader Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:52:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-204782 Lexus LS compared to a camry? It is like comparing a Land Cruiser to a Nautica. If it were to be compared, it should be at least the Toyota Crown. The Lexus LS is seriously premium. I remember back in the past when they show a stack full of champaign glass could still balance on the hood of the previous lexus while the engine is still running. That is how refined it is. Without a doubt, Lexus is striving to be among the top 3 luxury marques. However I feel that it is overpriced and too close to BMW/Mercs. As a new comer in Malaysia (officially brought in, not recond), UMW could have priced it more competitively. Lexus LS compared to a camry? It is like comparing a Land Cruiser to a Nautica.

If it were to be compared, it should be at least the Toyota Crown. The Lexus LS is seriously premium. I remember back in the past when they show a stack full of champaign glass could still balance on the hood of the previous lexus while the engine is still running. That is how refined it is.

Without a doubt, Lexus is striving to be among the top 3 luxury marques. However I feel that it is overpriced and too close to BMW/Mercs. As a new comer in Malaysia (officially brought in, not recond), UMW could have priced it more competitively.

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]]> By: kington http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-204776 kington Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:16:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-204776 I agree with the general sentiment that Lex models are glorified Toyotas, but experiencing the Lex LS and GS changed my perception slightly. Its premium offering of drivetrain and ride refinement is certainly better than the S and the 7. I remembered reading in TORQUE years ago when it was said that you can actually place a 50 cent Malaysian coin on the dash and it will not drop even when you crank the engine to life. The 7 remains the best driver's car, especially the new one with Active Steering and 4 wheel steering working in tandem, which gives this limo the handling of a 3. The S to me has improved a lot, it the CKD S300 certainly felt closer to the 7 in many areas except for that lil' extra bodyroll. I guess in the end, those who prefer to be driven in refined comfort should go for the Lex LS while the 7 would appeal more for those who prefer to have their own cake and eating it. The S is somewhat in the middle but the 3 pointed start will always remain the most sought after badge. I agree with the general sentiment that Lex models are glorified Toyotas, but experiencing the Lex LS and GS changed my perception slightly. Its premium offering of drivetrain and ride refinement is certainly better than the S and the 7. I remembered reading in TORQUE years ago when it was said that you can actually place a 50 cent Malaysian coin on the dash and it will not drop even when you crank the engine to life.

The 7 remains the best driver’s car, especially the new one with Active Steering and 4 wheel steering working in tandem, which gives this limo the handling of a 3. The S to me has improved a lot, it the CKD S300 certainly felt closer to the 7 in many areas except for that lil’ extra bodyroll.

I guess in the end, those who prefer to be driven in refined comfort should go for the Lex LS while the 7 would appeal more for those who prefer to have their own cake and eating it. The S is somewhat in the middle but the 3 pointed start will always remain the most sought after badge.

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]]> By: kington http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-204769 kington Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:58:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-204769 Camry's a far cry from what Toyota engineers have pored into making a Lex. On paper, the Lex is indeed a glorified Toyota but its drivetrain smoothness and comfort actually beats the S-Class and the 7 to a certain extent. Of course, the 7 epitomises the fun in driving a limo especially the new 7 which has Active Steering coupled with 4 wheel steering (if i'm not wrong), it really makes you feel like you're piloting a 3 series. The new S-Class has improved a lot in the sense you can actually call it a driver's car too as per the 7 while the Lex is still lacking in this dept. Hence, i would classify the Lex for those who prefer to be driven in an extremely refined and comfy manner, the 7 offers slightly less comfort but with heaps of drivability while the S sits somewhere in the middle with its 3 pointed star still, the most sought after badge in this class. Camry’s a far cry from what Toyota engineers have pored into making a Lex. On paper, the Lex is indeed a glorified Toyota but its drivetrain smoothness and comfort actually beats the S-Class and the 7 to a certain extent.

Of course, the 7 epitomises the fun in driving a limo especially the new 7 which has Active Steering coupled with 4 wheel steering (if i’m not wrong), it really makes you feel like you’re piloting a 3 series. The new S-Class has improved a lot in the sense you can actually call it a driver’s car too as per the 7 while the Lex is still lacking in this dept.

Hence, i would classify the Lex for those who prefer to be driven in an extremely refined and comfy manner, the 7 offers slightly less comfort but with heaps of drivability while the S sits somewhere in the middle with its 3 pointed star still, the most sought after badge in this class.

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]]> By: cam.shaft http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-204764 cam.shaft Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:38:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-204764 Kevin Lee said, January 29, 2009 @ 4:22 am lexus is basically a toyota with wood. better buy a camry to save money or just buy the german makes ___________________________________________ agree with you on some points. But lexus vs camry still has a large difference in term of comfort and quiteness in the cabin...but in malaysia, due to the great taxes and duties...yeah...might as well settle for german makes... cam.shaft Kevin Lee said,

January 29, 2009 @ 4:22 am

lexus is basically a toyota with wood. better buy a camry to save money or just buy the german makes

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agree with you on some points. But lexus vs camry still has a large difference in term of comfort and quiteness in the cabin…but in malaysia, due to the great taxes and duties…yeah…might as well settle for german makes…

cam.shaft

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]]> By: Kevin Lee http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-204711 Kevin Lee Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:22:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-204711 lexus is basically a toyota with wood. better buy a camry to save money or just buy the german makes lexus is basically a toyota with wood. better buy a camry to save money or just buy the german makes

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]]> By: red7 http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/lexus-ls-flagship-may-get-baseline-v6-engine/#comment-204710 red7 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:07:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=11511#comment-204710 better get a bmw cheers~ better get a bmw

cheers~

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