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	<title>Comments on: Locally assembled Peugeot 308 VTi and Peugeot 308 Turbo launched in Malaysia: RM96.5k to RM111k</title>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-467827</link>
		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 17:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>308 turbo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>308 turbo!</p>
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		<title>By: Khan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-431132</link>
		<dc:creator>Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 01:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your comments are the most interesting ones</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your comments are the most interesting ones</p>
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		<title>By: Angst</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-391329</link>
		<dc:creator>Angst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 19:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Edmund,

If ur still reading this thread and following this 308 forum, then i suggest that u submit a report to the &quot;Tribunal for Consumer Claims Malaysia&quot; (TTPM). As it is suggested on their website (http://ttpm.kpdnkk.gov.my/portal/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=13&amp;lang=en):

&quot;The Tribunal for Consumer Claims is an independent body established under Section 85, Part XII of the Consumer Protection Act 1999. The Tribunal operates under the Ministry of Domestic Trade, Co-operatives and Consumerism. The primary objective of establishing the Tribunal is to provide an alternative forum for consumers to file claims in a simple, inexpensive and speedy manner.&quot; 

I myself am planning to get a &quot;fun&quot; car and the 308 turbo is among the car that made it to my shortlist. It made me extra cautious in making my final decision after reading some comments regarding the after sales experience (although i&#039;m also thinking that these bad encounters with the after sales services is not uncommon among other distributorships in m&#039;sia...its juz that they were less being highlighted by their audience for some reason) . If what happened to our friend Edmund, Riz (different price charges), gctoh, ckoan n others out there is somewhat of a trend (regardless if its Naza, Tan Chong, UMW, Berjaya, Sime, etc. ), then i think submitting complaints via formal channel such as the tribunal is a good start, not to mention using popular platforms such as Facebook pages, etc. (the anti-Warisan Merdeka Tower FB page is a good example ;) ) (note: i&#039;m not politicizing anything)

We should thank companies such as Naza (especially Naza as they&#039;re the only local group who r willing to go the extra mile) for championing affordable-yet-superb-quality cars (especially of the Continental flavour)  to be made available for the average M&#039;sian Joe (who most of the time can only dream about doing 200km/h in a Megane RS or a Scirocco) but at the same time we should draw the line for them (whenever the need arise) if they start ruining our fruits of labour n prematurely end our dream joyride (that we&#039;re barely affording with our meager earnings) by giving us sub-standard after sales service.

As &#039;Ajae Da machismo&#039; suggested (yes, &#039;testedonetoday&#039;, i also read the whole forum end-to-end ;) ) somebody ought to start write a blog about the after sales services in m&#039;sia (i think Mr. Paul Tan here has already got his hands full lah...unless somehow he can find time n space to squeeze in a new slot ;) )

Btw, can&#039;t wait for next week (10th Nov. to be exact) as both mitsu&#039;s ASX n its evil step brother, the Inspira will be making rounds around the valley...w00t!! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Edmund,</p>
<p>If ur still reading this thread and following this 308 forum, then i suggest that u submit a report to the &#8220;Tribunal for Consumer Claims Malaysia&#8221; (TTPM). As it is suggested on their website (<a href="http://ttpm.kpdnkk.gov.my/portal/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=13&#038;lang=en" rel="nofollow">http://ttpm.kpdnkk.gov.my/portal/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=13&#038;lang=en</a>):</p>
<p>&#8220;The Tribunal for Consumer Claims is an independent body established under Section 85, Part XII of the Consumer Protection Act 1999. The Tribunal operates under the Ministry of Domestic Trade, Co-operatives and Consumerism. The primary objective of establishing the Tribunal is to provide an alternative forum for consumers to file claims in a simple, inexpensive and speedy manner.&#8221; </p>
<p>I myself am planning to get a &#8220;fun&#8221; car and the 308 turbo is among the car that made it to my shortlist. It made me extra cautious in making my final decision after reading some comments regarding the after sales experience (although i&#8217;m also thinking that these bad encounters with the after sales services is not uncommon among other distributorships in m&#8217;sia&#8230;its juz that they were less being highlighted by their audience for some reason) . If what happened to our friend Edmund, Riz (different price charges), gctoh, ckoan n others out there is somewhat of a trend (regardless if its Naza, Tan Chong, UMW, Berjaya, Sime, etc. ), then i think submitting complaints via formal channel such as the tribunal is a good start, not to mention using popular platforms such as Facebook pages, etc. (the anti-Warisan Merdeka Tower FB page is a good example <img src='http://s4.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) (note: i&#8217;m not politicizing anything)</p>
<p>We should thank companies such as Naza (especially Naza as they&#8217;re the only local group who r willing to go the extra mile) for championing affordable-yet-superb-quality cars (especially of the Continental flavour)  to be made available for the average M&#8217;sian Joe (who most of the time can only dream about doing 200km/h in a Megane RS or a Scirocco) but at the same time we should draw the line for them (whenever the need arise) if they start ruining our fruits of labour n prematurely end our dream joyride (that we&#8217;re barely affording with our meager earnings) by giving us sub-standard after sales service.</p>
<p>As &#8216;Ajae Da machismo&#8217; suggested (yes, &#8216;testedonetoday&#8217;, i also read the whole forum end-to-end <img src='http://s4.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) somebody ought to start write a blog about the after sales services in m&#8217;sia (i think Mr. Paul Tan here has already got his hands full lah&#8230;unless somehow he can find time n space to squeeze in a new slot <img src='http://s4.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>Btw, can&#8217;t wait for next week (10th Nov. to be exact) as both mitsu&#8217;s ASX n its evil step brother, the Inspira will be making rounds around the valley&#8230;w00t!! <img src='http://s4.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Edmund Leong</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-384337</link>
		<dc:creator>Edmund Leong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there,

Does anyone know what is the proper channel to make a complain about NAZA? 
I have waited about 16 weeks for 308THP and today I am suppose to get my car but I have rejected it. This is because I have noticed the discrepancies between the showroom unit and the actual unit. There are 4 differences, the sport rim in the actual unit has no nut cover while the showroom has it; secondly, the front passenger and driver&#039;s headrest has been downgraded to 308VIT&#039;s spec. The headrest in 308THP suppose to be very handsome and curvy but now it is bulky and clumsy. Thirdly, 308THPhas sporty, white meter panel but now it is like VTi or Myvi (orange light)!!?? Fourthly, the rack at the back of passenger seat supposingly has a covered compartment but now it has disappeared!!???  Don’t you guys feel that now the interior of 308THP looks like a Iswara???  
This fact is, I just glance it through from outside the car, I am not allowed to check further in details!!?? Can’t you guys believe it? Am I not supposed to check thoroughly on what I am paying for?? What else is hidden?? Well, I’m not sure.... 
Is it still worth for me to pay RM113,888.00 for a downgraded version??? 
Anyone who is going to get his/her 308THP or will be going get it, do check your car!!According to the sales man, the new batch of 308THP are confirmed have the above changes, or we call it ‘’downgraded”. If it is real, let’s file a complaint together!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there,</p>
<p>Does anyone know what is the proper channel to make a complain about NAZA?<br />
I have waited about 16 weeks for 308THP and today I am suppose to get my car but I have rejected it. This is because I have noticed the discrepancies between the showroom unit and the actual unit. There are 4 differences, the sport rim in the actual unit has no nut cover while the showroom has it; secondly, the front passenger and driver&#8217;s headrest has been downgraded to 308VIT&#8217;s spec. The headrest in 308THP suppose to be very handsome and curvy but now it is bulky and clumsy. Thirdly, 308THPhas sporty, white meter panel but now it is like VTi or Myvi (orange light)!!?? Fourthly, the rack at the back of passenger seat supposingly has a covered compartment but now it has disappeared!!???  Don’t you guys feel that now the interior of 308THP looks like a Iswara???<br />
This fact is, I just glance it through from outside the car, I am not allowed to check further in details!!?? Can’t you guys believe it? Am I not supposed to check thoroughly on what I am paying for?? What else is hidden?? Well, I’m not sure&#8230;.<br />
Is it still worth for me to pay RM113,888.00 for a downgraded version???<br />
Anyone who is going to get his/her 308THP or will be going get it, do check your car!!According to the sales man, the new batch of 308THP are confirmed have the above changes, or we call it ‘’downgraded”. If it is real, let’s file a complaint together!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Riz</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-360458</link>
		<dc:creator>Riz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>b_j,

i think u&#039;d better do some test drive. I was also faced with the same problem earlier this year. 

Already got myself a peugeot THP in may...enough to say i am more than satisfied.

There might b a few minor drawbacks with regards of the after sale services, 
on the whole, the car is really great...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>b_j,</p>
<p>i think u&#8217;d better do some test drive. I was also faced with the same problem earlier this year. </p>
<p>Already got myself a peugeot THP in may&#8230;enough to say i am more than satisfied.</p>
<p>There might b a few minor drawbacks with regards of the after sale services,<br />
on the whole, the car is really great&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: b_j</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-358167</link>
		<dc:creator>b_j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 17:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have done my vios major service and its cost me 1k++.normal service cost me around MYR300 (semi syn oil). i really want to read a professional suggestion about this 308 because i am considering to buy one soon. what is usually be the problem with this kinda car??again PROFESSIONAL...no bias..

my choices are :-
honda civic 1.8
altis 1.8
caldina 2.0 na
Peugeot 308 turbo
volvo s40 (2nd hand)

my characters are:-
good safety with NACP  test result
good handling
affordable maintenance 
easy to get spare part
fuel economy

pls help me out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have done my vios major service and its cost me 1k++.normal service cost me around MYR300 (semi syn oil). i really want to read a professional suggestion about this 308 because i am considering to buy one soon. what is usually be the problem with this kinda car??again PROFESSIONAL&#8230;no bias..</p>
<p>my choices are :-<br />
honda civic 1.8<br />
altis 1.8<br />
caldina 2.0 na<br />
Peugeot 308 turbo<br />
volvo s40 (2nd hand)</p>
<p>my characters are:-<br />
good safety with NACP  test result<br />
good handling<br />
affordable maintenance<br />
easy to get spare part<br />
fuel economy</p>
<p>pls help me out</p>
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		<title>By: b_j</title>
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		<dc:creator>b_j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 16:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tq very much for the info</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tq very much for the info</p>
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		<title>By: b_j</title>
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		<dc:creator>b_j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 15:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am considering to take the p308, but wondering the quality of ckd...the sparepart really scary me...i am of two mind now....pls help me out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am considering to take the p308, but wondering the quality of ckd&#8230;the sparepart really scary me&#8230;i am of two mind now&#8230;.pls help me out</p>
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		<title>By: Riz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it  varies depending on ur mileage. normal services would b around rm400++...depending on engine oil used. 

major sevice would b around rm1k - rm2k...if im not mistaken..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it  varies depending on ur mileage. normal services would b around rm400++&#8230;depending on engine oil used. </p>
<p>major sevice would b around rm1k &#8211; rm2k&#8230;if im not mistaken..</p>
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		<title>By: Mi16</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mi16</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To 308 turbo owners out there? how much does your regular service cost? 
I am consiering to book mine soon..

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To 308 turbo owners out there? how much does your regular service cost?<br />
I am consiering to book mine soon..</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Riz</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-353728</link>
		<dc:creator>Riz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi ckoan,

there&#039;s also the issue of different service price from different service centres. Pls call those service centres before u send ur car.... 

I&#039;ve sent mine to 2 different centres and each charged me different price.

weird huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi ckoan,</p>
<p>there&#8217;s also the issue of different service price from different service centres. Pls call those service centres before u send ur car&#8230;. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve sent mine to 2 different centres and each charged me different price.</p>
<p>weird huh?</p>
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		<title>By: ckoan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-352678</link>
		<dc:creator>ckoan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 04:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No question ask Car price = value buy......
however when it come to service and maintenance..... Good Luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No question ask Car price = value buy&#8230;&#8230;<br />
however when it come to service and maintenance&#8230;.. Good Luck!</p>
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		<title>By: ckoan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-352677</link>
		<dc:creator>ckoan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 04:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please be aware that the 3 years warranty and 100,000km only covered limited parts only. I felt cheated buying Peugeot Made Locally. Peugeot is a GREAT car however with the local dealer who do not answer to customer.....  it&#039;s hard to express my feeling right now.

TRUE STORY
On 15-July-2010, I sent my wife car, for 20,000km routine services. Service advisor called me and said the front disc brake and front disc pads were actually worn out. To my surprise, a lady driver who is only travelling less then 20,000km can actually worn the BOTH the disc brake and disc pad at such a fast time! What surprise me further was actually the price of the spare parts. I was charged at RM490 for 1 set of front disc pad! For your information, I changed my disc pad on a Volvo T5 every 30,000 – 40,000km mileage travelled, and is only costing me RM380 and BMW E90 at around the same price too! 

I called up and they said my wife car is 1 year and 2 mths old and the warranty for the rotor is only 1 yr. I made a official complaint, no respond! I wrote in to clic@naza.com.my no reply. I guess once i bought the car they do not entertain anymore... May be this is what they called &quot;after sales service&quot; (service meaning you pay bomb for your service)

Some advice for current Peugeot owner, if you find any minor smallest problem please let them know, make sure they have your problem log in the system. In the futurre if the parts faulty you will be able to argue over it. Don be like me, a FOOL!            

FUTURE BUYER please make sure you know what is covered under the warranty and the spare parts cost before you get into a frustrated situation like me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please be aware that the 3 years warranty and 100,000km only covered limited parts only. I felt cheated buying Peugeot Made Locally. Peugeot is a GREAT car however with the local dealer who do not answer to customer&#8230;..  it&#8217;s hard to express my feeling right now.</p>
<p>TRUE STORY<br />
On 15-July-2010, I sent my wife car, for 20,000km routine services. Service advisor called me and said the front disc brake and front disc pads were actually worn out. To my surprise, a lady driver who is only travelling less then 20,000km can actually worn the BOTH the disc brake and disc pad at such a fast time! What surprise me further was actually the price of the spare parts. I was charged at RM490 for 1 set of front disc pad! For your information, I changed my disc pad on a Volvo T5 every 30,000 – 40,000km mileage travelled, and is only costing me RM380 and BMW E90 at around the same price too! </p>
<p>I called up and they said my wife car is 1 year and 2 mths old and the warranty for the rotor is only 1 yr. I made a official complaint, no respond! I wrote in to <a href="mailto:clic@naza.com.my">clic@naza.com.my</a> no reply. I guess once i bought the car they do not entertain anymore&#8230; May be this is what they called &#8220;after sales service&#8221; (service meaning you pay bomb for your service)</p>
<p>Some advice for current Peugeot owner, if you find any minor smallest problem please let them know, make sure they have your problem log in the system. In the futurre if the parts faulty you will be able to argue over it. Don be like me, a FOOL!            </p>
<p>FUTURE BUYER please make sure you know what is covered under the warranty and the spare parts cost before you get into a frustrated situation like me!</p>
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		<title>By: SS Khor</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-348644</link>
		<dc:creator>SS Khor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

any idea when will Nasim bring in the 6 speed 1.6 THP 308 and what will be the price range. Is it better than the current 4 speed in terms of overall performance and also consumption of petrol. TQ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>any idea when will Nasim bring in the 6 speed 1.6 THP 308 and what will be the price range. Is it better than the current 4 speed in terms of overall performance and also consumption of petrol. TQ</p>
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		<title>By: bert</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-335128</link>
		<dc:creator>bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 04:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i drove 308 already ...is really powerfull engine ...great car nice design
french like art style morden concept... value buy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i drove 308 already &#8230;is really powerfull engine &#8230;great car nice design<br />
french like art style morden concept&#8230; value buy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Riz</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-333793</link>
		<dc:creator>Riz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 17:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi abu,
thats good new. hmm..i better get on with it anyway. been driving without any tint n it is brighter with the moonroof opened(esp during sunny days)...

wonder if we could put film on the moonroof too...

How dark is ur film anyway? i understood that the windows n screens r a bit dark already...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi abu,<br />
thats good new. hmm..i better get on with it anyway. been driving without any tint n it is brighter with the moonroof opened(esp during sunny days)&#8230;</p>
<p>wonder if we could put film on the moonroof too&#8230;</p>
<p>How dark is ur film anyway? i understood that the windows n screens r a bit dark already&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: abu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-332031</link>
		<dc:creator>abu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 10:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi mate,

agree..I&#039;ve canceled the Lancer and decided on 308T..waiting for the refund from eon automart...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi mate,</p>
<p>agree..I&#8217;ve canceled the Lancer and decided on 308T..waiting for the refund from eon automart&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: abu</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-332025</link>
		<dc:creator>abu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 10:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Riz..just got my 308 turbo last saturday  apprx .5 days ago..had it tinted with vcool..i dont have any problem with the sensors..FYI , i&#039;ve used the security film..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Riz..just got my 308 turbo last saturday  apprx .5 days ago..had it tinted with vcool..i dont have any problem with the sensors..FYI , i&#8217;ve used the security film..</p>
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		<title>By: Riz</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-331099</link>
		<dc:creator>Riz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 05:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i got my car (308turbo) already. pick it up in kuantan last saturday n then drive all the way back to kuala terengganu. really smooth driving. no hickups or anything n overtaking was a breeze...

there was a slight drawback when cornering due to its weight n height i supposed but on the whole, an excellent performance.

could anybody give me any tips on car tint? i&#039;ve heard stories that u can&#039;t tint the windscreen as it&#039;ll block the light sensor n decrease the sensitivity of the other sensors. Is this true?

Im planning to install a security film instead of normal tint.

Advice anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i got my car (308turbo) already. pick it up in kuantan last saturday n then drive all the way back to kuala terengganu. really smooth driving. no hickups or anything n overtaking was a breeze&#8230;</p>
<p>there was a slight drawback when cornering due to its weight n height i supposed but on the whole, an excellent performance.</p>
<p>could anybody give me any tips on car tint? i&#8217;ve heard stories that u can&#8217;t tint the windscreen as it&#8217;ll block the light sensor n decrease the sensitivity of the other sensors. Is this true?</p>
<p>Im planning to install a security film instead of normal tint.</p>
<p>Advice anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: testdriveonetoday</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-330982</link>
		<dc:creator>testdriveonetoday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 14:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading the WHOLE post, yes not a mean feat mind you. I tested the car (turbo) today ...yes I am one year plus later than you guys..as the saying goes better late than NEVER. The 308 turbo was very nice....if you have the luxury of 2 cars then buy this car for your everyday plus etc use. GOLF R choice no1 , Alfa Romeo Giulietta no 2 and Peugeot 308 turbo no3.  : ~ }
 AS for all those whinners out there, is there ever a perfect car? Its just that it has never happenned to you ...yet......whatever make your car is....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the WHOLE post, yes not a mean feat mind you. I tested the car (turbo) today &#8230;yes I am one year plus later than you guys..as the saying goes better late than NEVER. The 308 turbo was very nice&#8230;.if you have the luxury of 2 cars then buy this car for your everyday plus etc use. GOLF R choice no1 , Alfa Romeo Giulietta no 2 and Peugeot 308 turbo no3.  : ~ }<br />
 AS for all those whinners out there, is there ever a perfect car? Its just that it has never happenned to you &#8230;yet&#8230;&#8230;whatever make your car is&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-328909</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 05:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Freddie,
I can&#039;t comment much about 206 as I had not had a long test drive in that car before. What you were explaning is indeed the correct characteristic of a torque converter. Probably you are right with the lockup principle. Used to own 406 but the gearbox did not have such large drop in RPM when lockup occurs. 

The next time you have opportunity to drive 308 or 407, try floor the pedal from standstill and observe the gearbox characteristic. I find it pretty unique! :)

Dylan
DKTUNING.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Freddie,<br />
I can&#8217;t comment much about 206 as I had not had a long test drive in that car before. What you were explaning is indeed the correct characteristic of a torque converter. Probably you are right with the lockup principle. Used to own 406 but the gearbox did not have such large drop in RPM when lockup occurs. </p>
<p>The next time you have opportunity to drive 308 or 407, try floor the pedal from standstill and observe the gearbox characteristic. I find it pretty unique! <img src='http://s2.paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Dylan<br />
DKTUNING.com</p>
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		<title>By: Freddie</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-328854</link>
		<dc:creator>Freddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 03:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And my humble naza bestari has this feature too....After all, even naza bestari use AL4, and other citroen models use this type of autotran. This is not a dual stage torque converter. It is where the torque converter lock up comes into action. When this happen, engine speed is proportional with vehicle&#039;s speed, just like the manual transmission cars have. This will eliminate loss (slip) due to the nature of hydraulic TorqCon. Fron 2nd to 3rd, it continues to lock up, and that&#039;s why the RPM drop is high. Another cog would be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And my humble naza bestari has this feature too&#8230;.After all, even naza bestari use AL4, and other citroen models use this type of autotran. This is not a dual stage torque converter. It is where the torque converter lock up comes into action. When this happen, engine speed is proportional with vehicle&#8217;s speed, just like the manual transmission cars have. This will eliminate loss (slip) due to the nature of hydraulic TorqCon. Fron 2nd to 3rd, it continues to lock up, and that&#8217;s why the RPM drop is high. Another cog would be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-321677</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everyone, I am very new to these kind of bloggings. Basically I run a remapping company. Me too, were let down by the 308&#039;s 4-speed gearbox at first as I personally wanted to get one myself. During the remapping process, I did many acceleration testings and analysis on the engine performance, gearing, torque converter, temperature, etc. 

I am surprised but pleased to share my findings:

The 308 has sort of a DUAL STAGE torque converter which is activated in 2nd and 3rd gear. It is more prominent in 2nd gear than 3rd. When the gearbox engages the 2nd gear, the rev climbs to about 3,500rpm and maintains there for a short moment while the speed continue to rise. Then the rpm would drop slightly and a forward surge is felt when the 2nd stage clutch engages within the same 2nd gear. 

I think this is a design embedded into the intelligent gearbox to let it perform as if it is a 6-speed gearbox. 

The only thing under my expectation is the short gear ratio on its 4th gear. I would expect it to be taller inview of the dual-stage torque converter which already could close the gap of wide gear ratio. 

Peugeot 407 140hp vvt engine has this similar feature, too!

Dylan
DKTUNING.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone, I am very new to these kind of bloggings. Basically I run a remapping company. Me too, were let down by the 308&#8242;s 4-speed gearbox at first as I personally wanted to get one myself. During the remapping process, I did many acceleration testings and analysis on the engine performance, gearing, torque converter, temperature, etc. </p>
<p>I am surprised but pleased to share my findings:</p>
<p>The 308 has sort of a DUAL STAGE torque converter which is activated in 2nd and 3rd gear. It is more prominent in 2nd gear than 3rd. When the gearbox engages the 2nd gear, the rev climbs to about 3,500rpm and maintains there for a short moment while the speed continue to rise. Then the rpm would drop slightly and a forward surge is felt when the 2nd stage clutch engages within the same 2nd gear. </p>
<p>I think this is a design embedded into the intelligent gearbox to let it perform as if it is a 6-speed gearbox. </p>
<p>The only thing under my expectation is the short gear ratio on its 4th gear. I would expect it to be taller inview of the dual-stage torque converter which already could close the gap of wide gear ratio. </p>
<p>Peugeot 407 140hp vvt engine has this similar feature, too!</p>
<p>Dylan<br />
DKTUNING.com</p>
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		<title>By: Riz</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-318360</link>
		<dc:creator>Riz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im planning to get my self a 308Turbo...Heard all those glowing reviews of it but im still wondering if its really a good car in term of overall perspectives i.e spareparts availability, servicing, after sales activities etc...and the known fact of &#039;if its locally assembled, we get local quality&#039; mentality... 

Ford is also offering new focus h/back n sedan at the same price range (rm110-120K). c/w electric seat n etc.

Choices r more nowadays. Is it worth buying???

p/s: Im not against it anyway as i felt that its a good car with great price tag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im planning to get my self a 308Turbo&#8230;Heard all those glowing reviews of it but im still wondering if its really a good car in term of overall perspectives i.e spareparts availability, servicing, after sales activities etc&#8230;and the known fact of &#8216;if its locally assembled, we get local quality&#8217; mentality&#8230; </p>
<p>Ford is also offering new focus h/back n sedan at the same price range (rm110-120K). c/w electric seat n etc.</p>
<p>Choices r more nowadays. Is it worth buying???</p>
<p>p/s: Im not against it anyway as i felt that its a good car with great price tag.</p>
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		<title>By: BSLee</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-309021</link>
		<dc:creator>BSLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 12:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nazim motor better improve yr after sale service fast! Ford Feista and Focus  are here(with better engine and 6 speed gearbox). Sale of Peugeot will definitely drops! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nazim motor better improve yr after sale service fast! Ford Feista and Focus  are here(with better engine and 6 speed gearbox). Sale of Peugeot will definitely drops! </p>
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		<title>By: gctoh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-308510</link>
		<dc:creator>gctoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totolly agreed with Ajae Da machismo. The careline asked me to bring my faulty battery from Penang to KL head-quater for further discussion. This is rediculous!! they don&#039;t even have a clear guideline for the claim, this is just an excuse for not to replace the battery. Even until today I have 0 feedback from 4S service center not the helpline regarding my other claims..one more thing, my passenger seat sun shield fall off by itself after 11month which the screw is not properly tighthen (I wonder whether they miss out any other screw.), it really a shame for peugeot. I have cancelled the plan to get a 207cc after expereinced with this kind of after sale service. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totolly agreed with Ajae Da machismo. The careline asked me to bring my faulty battery from Penang to KL head-quater for further discussion. This is rediculous!! they don&#039;t even have a clear guideline for the claim, this is just an excuse for not to replace the battery. Even until today I have 0 feedback from 4S service center not the helpline regarding my other claims..one more thing, my passenger seat sun shield fall off by itself after 11month which the screw is not properly tighthen (I wonder whether they miss out any other screw.), it really a shame for peugeot. I have cancelled the plan to get a 207cc after expereinced with this kind of after sale service. </p>
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		<title>By: Ajae Da machismo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-303312</link>
		<dc:creator>Ajae Da machismo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, 
 
Perhaps you should also blog about after sales service in Malaysia...it&#039;s getting very common and I think it&#039;s being overlooked...we like your reviews....but after sales is sometimes a more important factor in making a decision of which car to buy. 
 
I hope you see this comment and take action on it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Perhaps you should also blog about after sales service in Malaysia&#8230;it&#039;s getting very common and I think it&#039;s being overlooked&#8230;we like your reviews&#8230;.but after sales is sometimes a more important factor in making a decision of which car to buy.</p>
<p>I hope you see this comment and take action on it. </p>
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		<title>By: Kit</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-298557</link>
		<dc:creator>Kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just got the 308, it has a lot of torque, but it could be a little bit difficult to drive as the gears do not shift at low revs.. somehow the turbo always kicks in.. anyways.. the accessories, panoramic roof, perfume diffuser &gt;&lt; .. all adds in and makes this a great drive! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just got the 308, it has a lot of torque, but it could be a little bit difficult to drive as the gears do not shift at low revs.. somehow the turbo always kicks in.. anyways.. the accessories, panoramic roof, perfume diffuser &gt;&lt; .. all adds in and makes this a great drive! </p>
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		<title>By: Cheap Forte</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/01/29/peugeot-308-vti-turbo-ckd-malaysia/#comment-298529</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheap Forte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>little less cheaper? means more expensive? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>little less cheaper? means more expensive? </p>
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		<title>By: popo</title>
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		<dc:creator>popo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*cheaper.....* </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*cheaper&#8230;..* </p>
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