The rest of your childish insults I won’t respond to. People like you make this blog look bad. Don’t tell me – you’re either a Proton employee, dealer or vendor?

Honda is already selling well thanks to the legions of fanboys who will buy anything with a Toyota or Honda badge. Not only that but the government is giving zero import duty on CKD ASEAN thanks to CEPT, but CKD Thailand parts are considered ASEAN parts, and ASEAN parts are defined as ‘local parts’, hence eligible for FULL excise duty exemption since NAP. Why don’t you cry about that? Oh you didn’t know? Honda profit margin is very healthy, and they don’t pay RM1 million to terminated dealers. At all.

Why don’t you tell ‘inside the picture of Honda’. It should be quite entertaining. But try to post something above the intelligence level of an 8 year old please, because you’re shaming yourself.

We’re just guessing here because we don’t know what’s in the dealer agreement. But it would be pretty bad for a manufacturer to sign a dealer agreement where you have to compensate TERMINATED dealers with a VSS, which furthermore can be NEGOTIATED (from 150k to 1mill??)!
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Enough said maibatsu..i know you’re from Honda. Just say you want P1 collapse and your Honda can sell well. You’re only the idiot Japanese blind rear bottom observer. You will get yellow. Come on, be consious, wipe your face with water and see the mirror. If you’re malaysian, try to be adapted with the reality. Don’t always dream like those japs. I dare to tell what is inside the picture of Honda. Enough said.

Notwithstanding that large corporates like Genting and Petronas contribute billions in taxes to the Gamen, its the small ppl like us who also contribute to the coffers of the Gamen. You should not belittle the small tax payer.

we are really regret bcoz we grumble and complain eventhou we only pay very small amount for taxes unlike u…but bear in mind, it is okay if the compensation is truthful & in good ways and clear …what we been trying to discuss here is about whether the management make a wise decision, or are there mismanagement in channeling our very small sum of taxpayer money…who knows if they get away this time with RM100m, they might easily spend more on useless things & our fund will finish just like that…have u ever heard about a RM3m project paid for RM6m (for example)…where are the RM3m balance? they call facilitation payment in Europe…in malaysia, bribery & corruption…

might not even make it to the 100 mill needed by proton…. cuz those infrastucture build by the govt such as the road, schools, lrt etc…. also used tax payer money… ur tax money.. even if collected for a decade might not even enough to build a small fraction of those insfrastructure…..

If yes, then that justifies what Proton is going to do imho. Question is, how much is too much. If no, well, that’s up to a public tribunal to decide.

Wisdom, if they use my tax money to improve education, help the poor and improve infrastructure, I will NOT grumble. That’s the whole point of Paul bringing this up in this forum in the first place.

And everybody like to quote ‘my hard-earned money’. Now, how much or how many % of your money that actually loss?

I know some will continue with ‘ i pay tolls, i pay for driving license, i pay road tax, i see movies also tax, eat KFC also tax, have to pay for parking etc….
Now compare that to comfort of living here in Malaysia (compared to some other places which could be worst, or if other places really wonderful, you could need to spend much more). Hell i’m not being patriotic but i’m grateful and value my life here compared to my time abroad. And nor that i support Proton (non under my porch but eying on one as a token)

But if its really your attitude… continue your grumble please..

February 12, 2009 @ 8:37 am

Hmm… from the article above and from what i know… the vss is not about terminating proton dealers that not performing or not meeting sales target…
those type of dealers usually their contact can be terminated without compensation due to breach of contract…

this vss is more likely because of Proton want to reduce the number of its dealers to an amount where they can control and monitor them….

hence some dealers needed to be terminated… and these dealers are not the high performing ones… they still meet the target sales as stated in contract and hence not breaching it.. thus to terminate their dealership proton has to compensate them… if terminated without compensation it could results in court case and proton end having to pay more to the dealers…

further more, i think not all dealers will get 1mill compensation… it will depends on their investment and contact terms… =)

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I think above is more valid reason and logical…

Malaysia
http://home.swipnet.se/~w-10652/Malaysia_business_FAQ_1.html

Rest of the world:
http://law.onecle.com/michigan/445-trade-and-commerce/mcl-445-1571.html
http://www.mondaq.com/article.asp?articleid=62084

Sample dealership agreement:
http://www.vontronix.com/download.asp?file=/FileLib/ADI-VontronixDealerAgreement122005.pdf

this vss is more likely because of Proton want to reduce the number of its dealers to an amount where they can control and monitor them….

hence some dealers needed to be terminated… and these dealers are not the high performing ones… they still meet the target sales as stated in contract and hence not breaching it.. thus to terminate their dealership proton has to compensate them… if terminated without compensation it could results in court case and proton end having to pay more to the dealers…

further more, i think not all dealers will get 1mill compensation… it will depends on their investment and contact terms… =)

mesti adil sebelum bertindak.

carries over to now. i agree they should cut down on the dealers but i dont think using taxpayer’s money to repay them is worth it. no way in hell my money is going to someone else.

if we really have to kill proton, which i really hope for, it will be a tough one because for one, more than 80 percent of the country has proton. effectively killing them will neutralise any resale value of the car.

it has to be done over the long term. like rover.

we’re heading to thailand’s direction in few more generations’ time. corruptions, overthrown government and civil wars.

- The dealer’s sales in relation to sales in the market and sales targets
- The dealer’s investment and obligations
- Any injury to the public welfare
- Adequacy of the dealer’s facilities, equipment, parts and personnel
- Honouring of warranties by the dealer
- Compliance with the dealership agreement, network standards, etc.
- Manufacturer’s desire for greater market penetration
- Any harm or damages to the manufacturer

p/s: do i sounded paranoid?

Thanks for the tutorial, ladies. Did I miss any other subject? Oh yes, blind bashing form our wild child ‘one liner’ gogobama. Who’s this adil2008 dude anyway… monitor BMW, ahaks-ha..

Paul, post more automotive business issues.

But in Malaysia, we don’t live in the real world. We will be the only country not to fall into recession. And, take my word for it, Proton has been instructed to give $$$ to selected dealers to close shop. These dealers are all connected to the ruling elite. Why else would Proton offer them $$$. Normally, Dealers who cannot sell cars will have their contract terminated.