The Campro CPS engine is finally in the Proton Satria Neo, something that many have been eagerly waiting for. The CPS is essentially a Campro engine with a few updates and a variable valve lift system called CPS as well as a variable intake manifold (VIM) system. These additions help push up power to 125 PS at 6,500rpm and 150Nm of torque at 4,500rpm, figures which are up from the standard Campro’s 110hp and 148Nm.
The car’s front and rear track has also been updated. While the Proton Satria Neo had a front and rear track of 1,470mm for both, the Satria Neo CPS H-Line has a narrower front track at 1,467mm and a wider rear track 1,483mm.
We didn’t managed to get hold of a Proton engineer to ask this question but we did manage to ask a member of Proton’s Race Rally Research (R3) team who said the change was made because Proton found the standard Neo suffered from slight oversteer, so this change was made to induce a slight understeer to improve handling. Anyway either way as a result of the large wheel arches, the wheels looks kind of lost inside them at certain angles.
As for aesthetics, as you can see there’s a new bodykit and more prominent flared wheel arches that are inspired from the old Satria GTI’s design. The alloy wheels are of the same 16 inch size as the M-Line but feature a different design that looks like a carbon copy of Advanti Racing’s MEDUSA design but without the two-tone design – perhaps it’s licensed or “inspired”. On the interior, the dashboard is now of a darker shade with red lighting on the various air conditioning controls and auto gear position indicators, has a different door trim design, some new trim around the gear shifter area, and leather seats in a black and red combination similiar to the GEN2 CPS.
The following are the prices for the new Proton Satria Neo CPS, available in only two colours which are unique to the CPS – solid white and tranquility black.
Proton Satria Neo CPS M/T (white) – RM 57,313.00
Proton Satria Neo CPS M/T (black) – RM 57,763.00
Proton Satria Neo CPS A/T (white) – RM 60,313.00
Proton Satria Neo CPS A/T (black) – RM 60,763.00
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CPS is only available for the high line model, so the lite and M-line models retain the regular Campro. Unfortunately this is the old original Campro engine, without the new IAFM systems in the Saga, Persona and GEN2. The CPS system has also been tweaked with this version of the Campro engine, so the high lift cam profile activation point has been revised. However I’m not sure what is the purpose of activating it later.
VIM switches between a long intake manifold at low RPMs and a short intake manifold at higher RPMs. According to Proton, a longer intake manifold is used at low RPMs to achieve slower air flow; this promotes better mixing with fuel. The short intake manifold allows more air in faster. This is beneficial at high RPMs. The CPS system uses a switching tappet and a trilobe camshaft to switch between two different cam profiles, one with low valve lift and another with high valve lift.
Campro CPS engine in the GEN2 CPS and Waja CPS
| Engine Speed | CPS | VIM |
| 0 to 3,800rpm | Low Lift | Long Runner |
| 3,800rpm to 4,800rpm | High Lift | Long Runner |
| Above 4,800rpm | High Lift | Short Runner |
Campro CPS engine in the Satria Neo CPS
| Engine Speed | CPS | VIM |
| 0 to 4,400rpm | Low Lift | Long Runner |
| 4,400rpm to 4,800rpm | High Lift | Long Runner |
| Above 4,800rpm | High Lift | Short Runner |
The regular Satria Neo High-Line is now phased out so if you want the higher safety features of the Highline model (dual airbags and ABS) you also must take the CPS engine and bodykit! This leaves a gaping hole in the produce positioning IMHO as some may like the looks of the Neo and want safety features but do not need the CPS power.
The price difference between the M-Line and the H-Line CPS is huge – RM9,300 so perhaps it would have been better to retain a H-Line regular Neo or upgrade the M-Line with ABS at the very least.
Look after the jump for some very high-resolution photos from Proton as well as our own photos from the launch event. Also, please read our short Satria Neo CPS Test Drive where we tell our experience with both the manual and automatic versions for a short period of time at the launch event.
Related Posts:
Proton Satria Neo R3 Test Drive Review
Proton Satria Neo CPS Short Test Review
Proton Satria Neo CPS – Exterior Photos
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Proton Satria Neo CPS – Interior Photos
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Proton Satria Neo CPS – Launch Photos
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since you guys like to play 1st 2nd 3rd…..woohoo 1st
anyway…why don’t they make the satria neo more affordable? pretty pricey for a proton IMO.
better dont launch what new proton car…close shop better ! can close shop liao
Can.t hardly wait…. just book one yesterday… My black evo going to get jeles meh….
I don’t mind to pay more as long as the quality is there.
is the pricing rite??different between manual and auto is so minimal…maybe paul type it in rush
The price is 100% correct. I already read the specs of it, nothing special eother than the cps.
the auto is 60k.
450 bucks is what you normally pay for metallic paint
nearly fainted when i saw the price….almost 10K more than Old Neos….*sweat*
regular campro means IAFM campro or not? hehe.. just asking..
Hui,
then, what is the diffrent in spec of this “Proton Satria Neo CPS (white) – Auto – RM 57763″ and this “Proton Satria Neo CPS (black) – Manual – RM 60313″ other then CPS engine as i believe in here the price for black manual is higher than white auto??is the paint is more expensive??
it should be:
H-Line (Black)
RM57,763 (MT)
RM60,763 (AT)
H-Line (White)
RM57,313 (MT)
RM60,313 (AT)
almost 10k with CPS…
other goodies are such as new 16″ alloy, new bodykits, leather seat, etc..
I think Paul made a mistake with the prices….i think it should be like this:
Proton Satria Neo CPS (white) – Manual – RM 57313
Proton Satria Neo CPS (black) – Manual – RM 57763
Proton Satria Neo CPS (white) – Auto – RM 60313
Proton Satria Neo CPS (black) – Auto – RM 60763
The WHITE is SOLID while the BLACK is METALLIC hence the PRICE DIFFERENCE of RM 450. AUTO and MANUAL PRICE DIFFERENCE is RM 3000.
The Difference Between The Normal Neo is:
1) CPS Engine ( Normal Only IAFM)
2) RIMS (16” Advanti Rims compared to the normal 15″ JRD Rims)
3) Different Front Bumper
4) Different Rear Bumper
5) Wheel Arches
6) Side Skirtings
7) Wind Tunnel Tested Wings/Spoilers
8) Air Diffuser (at the rear)
9) Full Leather Interior – Seats, Door Trim, Gear Knob, Steering Wheel (Mix with Red)
10) Cruise Control for Auto.
11) ABS with EBD (improved intelligence system)
12) Dual Front Air Bags
13) Seat Belts with Pre-tensioners
14) Lastly the stance and look which is priceless….
Cheers!
ok sifu…aagreed!:)
Do the M-Line and Lite Satria Neo come with IAFM now?
I remember it was just normal CAMPRO.
At least 57k???
That’s about an 8k premium over the medium-line non-CPS manual Satria!!!
does it cost THAT much to include variable valve timing? Doubt that the bodykit and larger rims would increase the price that drastically.
Sifu,
They say that neo-CPS is 53 Kg heavier, why is that?
Different body frame?
I tot EBD (Electronic Brakeforce Distribution?) long have in other manufacturers
Now their ABS got EBD + BA (brake assist) + ESC (Electronic Stability Control), i heard the upgrade is cheap & not expensive and helps a lot of people to brake harder (which help a lot of ladies in braking)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_brakeforce_distribution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Stability_Control
What Proton now have to do is to improve safety, which US & Europe is going to implement : ESC/TRC or VSC (stability control) standard, this will help a lot of users especially during raining or snowing seasons.
Safety features is a very good investment like insurance. If Proton still doesn’t have an edge of safety feature over other manufacturer locally (Perodua), in normal people is nothing special.
From wikipedia about ESC:
“Effectiveness
Numerous studies around the world confirm that ESC is highly effective in helping the driver maintain control of the car and saving lives and reducing the severity of crashes.In the fall of 2004 in the U.S., the National Highway and Traffic Safety Administration confirmed the international studies, releasing results of a field study in the U.S. of ESC effectiveness. NHTSA concluded that ESC reduces crashes by 35%. Additionally, Sport utility vehicles (SUVs) with stability control are involved in 67% fewer accidents than SUVs without the system. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) issued its own study in June 2006 showing that up to 10,000 fatal US crashes could be avoided annually if all vehicles were equipped with ESC[27] The IIHS study concluded that ESC reduces the likelihood of all fatal crashes by 43%, fatal single-vehicle crashes by 56%, and fatal single-vehicle rollovers by 77-80%.
ESC is described as the most important advance in auto safety since the seat belt by many experts. including Nicole Nason, Administrator of the NHTSA,[30] Jim Guest and David Champion of Consumers Union Max Mosley of the Fédération Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA), E-Safety Aware, Csaba Csere, editor of Car and Driver, and Bill Kozyra, CEO of Continental Automotive Systems The European New Car Assessment Program (EuroNCAP) “strongly recommends” that people buy cars fitted with stability control.
The IIHS and Consumer Reports are so impressed with ESC that vehicles cannot earn their Top Safety Pick ratings without ESC. ”
Hope that someone here from Proton can learn it to improve their safety. Thanks.
I have received brochure about the this neo CPS.. the body is redesign, and making its structure twice as solid as before.. the length and width of the ody also a bit different..
“i heard the upgrade is cheap & not expensive and helps a lot of people to brake harder (which help a lot of ladies in braking)”
This is for BA (brake assist) function
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_assist
See it today,Nothing special. But definitely better than myvi SE…
si-fu:
I think u made some mistakes on ur statement too
The Difference Between The Normal Neo is:
1) CPS Engine ( Normal Only IAFM) <— Satria neo never has IAFM,its only the CPS now and the campro kosong for the old neo
2) RIMS (16” Advanti Rims compared to the normal 15? JRD Rims) <– old neo using 16″ not 15″
4) Different Rear Bumper <– rear bumper looks the same except for the lil plate and the diffuser
7) Wind Tunnel Tested Wings/Spoilers
9) Full Leather Interior – Seats, Door Trim, Gear Knob, Steering Wheel (Mix with Red)
10) Cruise Control for Auto. <— the old neo already has cruise control for neo
11) ABS with EBD (improved intelligence system) <– old neo has this too
12) Dual Front Air Bags <– old neo has this too
13) Seat Belts with Pre-tensioners <— old neo has this
14) Lastly the stance and look which is priceless….
variable valve timing??? it’s cam profile switching la…. 2 different technology..
haiyya…. check first before commenting…
here guys http://www.proton-edar.com.my/index.php?page=campaign&action=view&id=53
The new Satria Neo 1.6L CPS High Line is a replacement of the high line variant. This model is equipped with CAMPRO CPS 1.6 engine, and comes with either automatic or manual transmission. The new Satria Neo 1.6L CPS High Line is sporty and stylish in appearance and performance.
The other variants of the Satria Neo i.e. Medium Line & Base Line are still available with standard Campro engine and there are no changes in specifications.
There are two body colours offered for Satria Neo 1.6L CPS High Line : Tranquility Black (Metallic) & Solid white (Solid)
The Satria Neo 1.6L CPS High Line is open for booking and delivery is expected within from 1 to 2 months.
The booking fee is RM 500.
Interest Rate is 3.88% for 7 years and 3.99% for 9 years.
The Satria Neo 1.6L CPS High Linecomes with Extended Warranty Program (EWP), 3 years after the manufacturer warranty.
Bookings of the current Satria Neo 1.6L High-Line can be transferred to the new Satria Neo 1.6L CPS High Line. The price difference has to be met.
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WHY still no reduction on petrol now???The oil price is falling.
RAKYAT are waiting, shahrir and also there are 2 by-election coming.
SO drop at least 15sen :p
Good.. better they stick to the high price.
don’t downgrade the Satria as a hell cheap supermini car.
they should fasten up build the GTi version one.
2.0 engine or bigger monster under the hood is better!
CPS stands for Cam Profile Switching. It is an improvement to the power and torque of the engine through modification of the camshaft profile and intake manifold.
Theoretically speaking, CPS is the high performance engine for Proton. It has similar concept as DDVT, VTI and Vtec
CPS is a premium engine where the maximum power and torque produced by CPS is higher. CPS improvement is on the camshaft and intake manifold.
CPS fuel consumption remains competitive
sifu are u sure normal NEO is IAFM?looks like it is not ,in the power graph shows non IAFM characteristic.
Fucking expensive la!
wow.. nicer look. more horsepower. more money.. haha..
if this neo have 4 doors.. aduhai..
from the single pic above..
it’s no so nice in my eye.. :(
maybe the original one already beautiful enough.. it’s hard to make it more nicer.. or maybe they save the best for the last (GTi)
If CPS is already high performance, then will there be more features for the Neo GTI compared to Neo CPS? Or just a bigger CPS engine for Neo GTI?
CPS have been use by many manufacturer with different name, such like Honda VTEC, Mitsubishi MIVEC (old not the new GEMA), Nissan VVL..
http://www.autozine.org/technical_school/engine/vvt_2.htm#Cam-changing
Due to Proton want to tune it to be a fuel efficient engine, the output have to be tune lower to compensate for better FC. Other manufacturer is almost 160hp above..
For Proton CPS engine, i think they should be going for direct Injection & Timing chain to reduce the maintenance fee (timing chain last longer than timing belt, reduce workmanship in replacing the belt) and better FC (direct injection improve combustion and use less fuel).
A bit over-dressed and over-priced IMO…still prefers my old neo…:)
Logically Mad,
So if the timing of the valves don’t change, then what the hell is the point of changing the camshaft profile? To make it look nicer? Just like the neon lights you’ve attached underneath your car?
idiot…
Seems overpriced. And does anyone else think it looks hideous?
I see this thread will touch 400 by tomorrow…
For GTi, i think Proton can still use back the 1.6L Campro engine (save cost) and turbocharge or supercharge it.
Take an example of Toyota 4A-GZE 1.6L supercharge engine in AE92 & AE101 Levin or MR-S. It is fun to drive and powerful, fuel consumption is also acceptable! Due to special pulley which can discharge from the supercharger when not needed. Toyota already have it during 90′s..
Even VW can turbocharge the 1.4L engine and make the golf fun to drive..
Turbocharge is consider as a save cost way of upgrading the engine and reduce time for new engine R&D.
better get this then old neo. hhe. IMHO la..
Dear Logically Mad,
Oh shit… turns out that CPS is a variable valve LIFT technology… which means that I’m the idiot. Sorry!
only white and black color for neo cps?
wat about others Sifu?
and does it have the same headlamp like those waja cps?
Specs quoted from brochure:
Campro CPS 4-cylinder, DOHC 16V
125 hp (93 kW) @ 6,500 rpm
150 Nm @ 4,500 rpm
5 MT – 190km/h, 10.5sec (0-100km/h), 1212kg
4 AT – 185km/h, 12.9sec (0-100km/h), 1227kg
Overall L x W x H (mm) – 3898 x 1745 x 1434
Only available in Tranquility Black and Solid White with 4 AT spec having an extra Auto Cruise Control.
Looking at the specs, it seems that we really have to test drive it before making any negative judgement.
WTF? Looks like a can of white paint splashed on it, bigger wheels please.
Wisdom said,
February 13, 2009 @ 3:43 pm
I don’t mind to pay more as long as the quality is there.
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Perodua Nautica Made in Japan RM90k everybody say very expensive but didin’t say about the Japan quality.
Anybody have any pictures from the unveiling today?
Yes!!!!!!! 125bhp, 150Nm at 1200 kg!!!!! Any bigger wheels you hike your 0 to 100 time. Good one to eat up Karak mileage. Shit! Where’s my piggy bank?
need more pic please..
hmm…
offtopic>>
2 popular methods of valve opening in ICE:
*valve timing e.g. vvt, dvvt,
*valve lift e.g. cps
1 special:
valve timing+valve lift e.g. vtec
as safety is concerned, there are ACTIVE & PASSIVE safety.
err but i don’t know what? my reading thru wiki made me blurr :P
Very different outlook, improved engine…
but have to check and feel the car before making any judgement..
looks is one thing, quality is another…
Yalah,need more pic…
If ordinary campro have 110hp and satria neo r3 tuned version hit 135hp, then what about this cps neo?if ordinary cps hit 125hp,thats mean neo cps r3 while burst to 150HP?!!!!!…
Sifu,can you explain a bit..did we will see a NEO CPS R3?
The body kit and the wheel arch sure makes the car looks aggressive, not to mention white color @.@”. Looks a bit like the old Satria GTi to me, as stated at the Proton website “New Body Kit with GTi Spirit”!
Nice touch!
A premium of RM 6K from the old H-Line with leather seats, new colors, sport rims, body kits and a new engine with higher power and torque is quite worth it. I guess we cant get such price with aftermarket parts.
Definitely have to feel the car before judging the car by its looks. Keep it up Proton! =)
1 mean machine prom proton, but have to wait and see wat the has to say on the road. I personally feel the spoiler a litte to big for the car, when looking it from the back…
“Good things come to those who wait.”
Now let’s drop by for a test drive! =D
cps here cps there, ok. but i need a diesel engine!! because i’m in europe..
and when will be the launch of Savvy LCV (LeightCommercialVehicle) which is on process sayd by Proton-Turkey!!
yawn..kinda boring looking car dunno whats d fuss about beside additional valve /cam system which other cars alredy has it. bodykit looks familiar i think seen it b4 on the road & is d pic d actual car coz really looks a bit of mess with those fender nuts on, looks like d wheel cover is missing or r those steel rims?
huhu… mmg lawa lah SATRIA NEO CPS. tapi… mahal sgt lah… kat semenanjung yalah dekat2 RM60000… klu kat sabah ni conform pasti lagi mahal ni, RM60000 lebih tu kali bro, mgkn hmpir2 RM70000 lah… tak ke mahal tu…??? hm… =(
considering i paid RM72k for my wira 1.8dohc in 1997(a very good car for the money), this is really a good bargain.
do u think with neo cps with gti styling , proton will introduce neo gti?
junl00ng,
sorry for the mistake with the IAFM, the normal neo doesn’t have IAFM. Other then that, the comaprison i gave was for the difference between M-Line/L-Line and H-Line CPS….so actually u can see wat u get for extra 10k or so…
However, in order to really feel ur money’s worth, u need to test drive the car. I CAN ASSURE YOU, MOST OF U WILL BOOK IT RITE AWAY!
Regarding the CPS Engine, as i have stated so many times, CPS is a Dual/Variable Valve Lift Technology…..And the VIM Has a Dual/Variable Intake Manifold Setting. It doesn’t have variable valve timing like DVVT or VVTi….but in actual case, since the cam lobes for the intake has a dual setting, on high cam lobe, the timing is slightly different from the low (normal) cam lobe. This is due to the design of the cam lobe itself. when the high cam lobe is designed, it has a bigger profile compared to the normal one in order to obtain higher valve lift, in order to achieve this, u have to increase the peak of lobe height, when u do this, the dwell time (the period where the valve stays open) increases sinse the path travelled is longer due to higher peak…..so actually in high cam mode, u get an increased dwell time, increased lift, and increased valve open duration. This produces higher HP as more combustion product can enter the combustion chamber…..the end! hahahahahahahahaha….
Cheers!
Ok I’m really irritated with this. Why does Proton see it fit to omit the ABS and airbags from the plain-vanilla Campro model?
So if I want additional safety, I HAVE to buy the CPS model. What if one doesn’t like the rather showy kit added to the car? I think the old Neo is just nice, all it needs is some nicer rims.
Another bone is the fact that there’s not much of a performance advantage over the Campro. I’m not sure if there’s any difference in practice but the 2NM advantage doesnt seem all too promising.
As a sidenote, i’m no basher, just giving my 2cents. Still like the end product, but you know, the little details lah….
Si-fu, anyway idea why the IAFM is not available on the Neo?
ah by looking at the only pic above, im not really impressed. hopefully there will be more pix soon. proton really needs to improve the interior of its cars. the new cars. looks and feels cheap. however, my moms 1991 proton aeroback interior is still looking tough despite the luntur color.
farghmee,
active safety system: abs,ebt,traction control,seat belt.
passive safety system:airbag.
anyway, malaysian car should provide at least an abs as a standard feature. dont worry abt the price, if all the cars were fitted with abs, sure the cost price willl be lower and consumer can enjoy peace driving experienced.
for now the only thing i can say is-those fenders with bolts are overkill!yes they look good on GTi, but hideous on Neo.R3 visual enchancements are way better.
true the wing a windtunnel tested,yet not so easy on my eyes,too ricey…
i love high performance car,but this one is visually a bit overdone.
yeah, different person different opinion, but for me, this neo really cool especially in white!!.love the rim, interior and wing. too bad all i need is 4 doors practical car.
Don’t understand this part Paul:
“While the Proton Satria Neo had a front and rear track of 1,470mm for both, the Satria Neo has a narrower front track at 1,467mm and a wider rear track 1,483mm”
Is Proton Satria Neo and Satria Neo two different things?
What an embarrassment Proton, it looks terrible, i have been waiting so long, it would have been better to just change engine and left the car the way it was, because i am not buying this ugly looking car :-(
Sorry, rushing, made some mistakes, fixed.
Paul: i thought the meter color changed to amber/red instead of the old blue colour ?
I thought CPS is still playing with the valve timing. How come some still said it is not VVT. There are a lot of Valve timing technology available, altering the CAM-shaft of course will change the timing of the Valve itself.. Anyway, it is just my 2 cents.
Nope – it’s still blue!
http://paultan.org/photo/Proton_Satria_Neo_CPS_Interior/instrument-meter-panel.jpg.php
http://paultan.org/photo/Proton_Satria_Neo_CPS_Interior/dashboard.jpg.php
I hate photos from manufacturers, its always darkened. What are they trying to hide? If they want it dark, should have made the interior dark!
Why can’t we opt for a H-Line CPS Neo WITHOUT the hideous spoiler and body kit and rims?
…Or can we?
I am all fore that
I want a HI-Line with CPS engine, and the new front, and the leather interior, the rest of the new car is to hairy fore me.
freeze,paultan mentioned the dashboard is darker than previous model.
still the same old steering wheel with the disappointing radio control buttons on it. and also i dont understand the reasons behind putting the fake screws on the interior plastic. it looks weird. still prefer the waja facelifts interior and perdana v6 interior. har har
Would it be possible to switch off stability control? Or is it a type that is not so intrusive? Only Novice (read noobs) want ABS, Stability Control and Traction Control.
When is Paul gonna get a test drive? Saw a white one on a low loader in Bandar Sunway heading for the showrooms I guess. Niiiiice!!!! Looks a bit more hefty and muscular than the previous one. I like!!!!!!!
hope it wont be ambitious but rubbish …
still too expensive for a plastic milo tin car ..
So d earlier pic is d actual car..worst than myvi se especialy d rear lamp looks dated with d yellow signal. Atleast myvi se has crystal light & can some 1 take those nut or bolt away pls, really x 3 out la man as if d car painter fell asleep.
close shop
I’m not very convinced.
Probably better luck when Proton finally releases the “GTI” version with a proper turbo charged campro.
10.5s to 100 is quite poor especially with the boy racer looks.
My old Satria 1.8SOHC which makes less HP but slightly more torque than the CPS does the century mark run at 8.9 secs. Thats what 200kg less does.
However in its defence the Satria Neo is actually quite fun to drive. Its quite balanced out of the box and if shod with proper tyres, can be very flingable on the track. Its just missing the proper engine.
I’m a little dissapointed they narrowed the front track to reduce oversteer. WTF. The tendency to get a little lift off and braking tail happyness for a FWD car is what makes it drive better (if not it will understeer like a pig). I widened my front track just to get the tail out and proton engineers out oversteer…..I can understand if this was a sedan, but on a little sporty hatch, thats its proper character.
I still think the GTI might be a more compelling buy. I’m sticking to my original satria for now…..
wow! i want one!
F1: Impress me something that Myvi se is better than this, dont crap me with the ‘massive’ storage space
Si-fu,
Can you please tell someone to educate Proton salespersons a bit? I find in many occasions, their product knowledge is rubbish. I feel that’s rather embarrassing
About the Neo CPS, i feel it is tad expensive although the extra is nice. I’ve got a few questions though:
1. Has the interior material improved? We’ve seen better interior material on Gen2 CPS model compared to the non-CPS ones.
2. Any difference in the Lite and M-line versions… like the darken interior as found in the CPS?
i want the engine.. not the body kit.. can ah ? Hline minus the body kit.
lambov12 said,
February 13, 2009 @ 9:25 pm
hope it wont be ambitious but rubbish …
still too expensive for a plastic milo tin car ..
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The rubbish is you!..
OK blame PAUL on this (sorry paul but maybe you have your own reason)
I think you forgot to mention 1 of the important thing.
THIS NEO CPS body was re-engineered and built with a new SUPER-RIGID HIGH TENSILE STEEL!. Twice stronger than normal car!. Please check the official brochure. TQ!
The tin milo are P2 and… toyota.
So what? Still think it’s exspensive?
Paul Tan says: The chassis is the same one as the regular Satria Neo, both have the super-rigid high tensile steel. The Neo has always had it from the beginning. It’s merely marketing talk in the brochure and the asterix in that particular paragraph refers to the CPS engine only found in High-Line models. I’ve double checked this with Proton already. Only the track width for front and rear has changed.
ini mmg best…aku salute r r3..u’ve done an excellence job…
the car cant be judge from juz by looking at the pictures. after seeing the video i feel the Neo CPS actually looks okay.
THe oni thing Im saddened about is the price tag… T.T I juz want a Neo with better engine and now my dream 1st car is gone…
offtopic –> no need to login if want to throwing our comment? that good because i’ve a problem with logged out last time..
ontopic–> it’s better than myvi se at least… and lambov12, buy urself a “jacob’s biscuits tin” car indeed!! :D lamborghini v12?? lol..
haiz….
BMW or Audi still better
This topic is full of dissatisfaction.
This enhanced Satria Neo looks much sporty (pocket car put on armor) than previous version and I am very curious about its performance. Hope this time Proton can at least produce something that Malaysian feel proud of.
But I guess people will prefer an R3-tuned Satria Neo.
i really hope that the LOTUS badge wont be merely a marketing tactic. Looking forward for paul’s review on the handling. is it going to better or the same thing as the standard neo? anyway, bravo again to proton for trying to be better.
*fingers crossed ( hope that topgear will do a review on this car! )
to those nutjobs please stop comparing myvi n this car….go n compare lorry tanker and toyota IQ makes u look more smart !
alternative to MyVi, but surely IMO Naza aka Peugeot 206 is a better value currently with 0% interest at RM61,200?
Its 50kg++ heavier than the M line model.
Makes me wonder what contributes to these weights??
Someone mentioned Super High Tensile Steel is used in this car,
I think this is the one the new MPV will also use,
which is imported from Korea.
Is this type of steel heavier?
Or is it the CPS system contribute more to its weight??
Or those leather trims?
Basically I was sort of expecting more out of its performance,
but sadly I think quite a part of it is now offset by the weight.
Looking forward to the GTI version though ^^
Si-Fu please explains!!
Still, this car looks much fearsome than the old one.
And certainly would smoke a Myvi SE on a track.
Myvi SE really is a “ricer” car,
its just not supposed to be a performance car,
it’s a car designed to be easy to park, cheap to run, practical,
for mum’s taking kids back and forth to school,
most loser buy Myvi SE because they can’t afford a proper sport or track car,
but sort of want to show off their “ricer mindset”.
Whereas the Satria Neo is fundamentally better for the purpose of racing or perhaps showing off.
Paul Tan says: My guess – the airbags, ABS, bodykit, CPS system, VIM system, wheels are also different so they might have different weight.
haiz….price damn expensive..le…just with new leather triming, rear big spoiler, bumper and the cps…if the price same as previous one..then it will be awesome….proton..u must revise the price again…maybe place the price lower like 55k and gen2 also sort of expensive…
jun100ng: no bolts & nuts to be seen & not to mention extra pair of doors, cheaper price & more color choice la bro. No offence its not crap its d facts & i’m not a myvi se fan either. If only horse power would impress u than i got nothing to say.
Happy Valentine ye all!
i like the cps but not this new body, maybe the previous/standard body looks cool. must go to showroom to view it myself.
tak hairan guna enjin campro lama…syed zainal pemalas selalu nak bagitau yang idea dia lebih baik dari tm…tapi hakikatnya ramai geng aku n geng bapa aku kata yang saga baru tu kuat minyaknya…sbb tu mungkin tak guna iafm…sbb lagi kuat dari enjin campro tanpa iafm…
Ok la neo CPS ni.. aku suke interior, exterior nya.. bumper depan cun.. kecuali fender ala2 gti yg sikit kureng kat neo cps.. harge plak bagi aku memang patut la dgn pakej.. bagus proton.. good job
~neo aku dah nampak cam kurang hensem dah kalau duk sebelah cps ni..
i kinda hate the rear spoiler , too big…the r3 spoiler look smoother n matches the car…this one is like a small kid wearing his fathers shoes ! price abit high or not u cant really tell from the pics…need to test drive….if thrs power,rigid body…none ratteling interior . thn i say its worth it if ur looking for a 2 door….
design and quality are both seem good….pricing is more than expected…much more…bloody hell! i aint buying it
Dear Sifu n PaulTan
Ive been waiting 4 almost a year now 4 dis car. i havent d chance 2 hav a look at it, but i must say it loks quite nice. my question is dat of d M-line. I noe dat the M-line still keeps d old campro engine but does it hav d same looks like the neo cps? r both d exterior of d M-line n H-line(neo cps) hav d same bumpers, bodykit bla,bla(design)?
Thx in advance
Paul Tan says: The new look is only for the CPS H-Line. The other Neos look the same as before.
The new look is only for the CPS H-Line. The other Neos look the same as before.
wow, NICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
aku nak kete ni..
sempoi giler,..
tp ape kan daye..
aku stilll student..
xmampu..
hahaha
what a suggestion maximum trye sizes/wheel sizes for satria neo cps?
Proton!!! if u can hear us!!!
This car is too freakin expensive!!! I would love to have one BUT its just too expensive!!! n y din u put CPS into the rest of the line-ups??? I just wan a Neo with a CPS…
btw, is tat the OTR price???
Why this neo not include the GPS system same like Persona SE?
Because it is already expensive as it is?
Any idea if it has any promotion at the moment to push sales for the new car?
cps is good engine..but seem boring..waja, gen2 now neo..all use same engine at diffrent model.every model shud have own identity make it more interesting..
wow. u thought developing a new engine is easy? i think they should stick to the enhancement process in term of performance and quality rather than investing money to make a new engine which starts from scratch. agree with 82031. people keep condemning our national car but the weaknesses from imported cars are easy to be forgiven.
anyway gud design….better than overprice myvi se….hehe
This new baby is awesome. If not because of my old wira and mpv, i would be booking this baby by this time. Maybe i should wait for better option from P1, supercharged engine, for sure. Anyway, this neo cps looks promising.
guys go to your nearest show room first n look and feel it closely before make n assumption…if u hv a chance test drive it n u will be surprise…proton never make bumper spoiler n so on as a cosmetic purpose only…it not like the other so called “national car maker”…every design have its purpose and advantages to the car..especially on ride and handling also performance wise…i not test drive it yet but according to a close friend the ride and handling is far more better then prev neo…its far more better then savvy that already proven that its handling is the best, and far more better in aerodynamics… my opinion the front portion of the car is “garang” enuf but the side fender is not that pleasant for me..interior wise its show the character of a sports car…minus point is it a bit heavy…and a bit expensive but better then overprice but nothing inside myvi SE
ok wat u all want from proton for diz car actually????
Looks alright, but not fantastic. The price tag is too high when considering its built quality and awkward interior design and engineering. The manual stick looks horrible. It would be better if a leather is wrapped around the stick instead of the bare plastic cover. High stencil steel has been used by western auto industry for over a decade. Same weight but much higher strength.
BeRrY, haha u know malaysian la, want a pocket rocket at roti kosong price lol ppl js dnt know how to value stuff
im begging!scrap away the fender thingy!it sucksssss big time…make the tires look sunken.totally spoiling the overall look.pls!!!!!!!!now finally i have to hate proton styling department…what were they thinking?
last time the gti looks good with the slap-on fender thing because it doesnt have prominent fender…Neo already hv nice bulging fender..what make it bigger?
if i have to describe how hideous the fender look, i would say…like some sexy model having elephanitis(untut gajah in malay)…
why am i so mad?because ive been waiting for CPS neo for so long…now they messed the fender…xjadi beli la…hoping R3 will have their own variant of neo cps…hmm..
the neo has also been pretty impressive in motorsports. i’m pretty sure the basic competence of the road cars handling, translates very well into racing.
i’m disappointed by the lack of more power for the neo though, but having driven the gen2 cps.. i was pretty impressed.. it might not a big load more power than the normal campro on paper, but its definitely got the power in the useable range now unlike previously. makes the car more driveable.
despite all the “expensive” comments, I still think the car is priced right.. especially for a niche ‘hot hatch’. for handling that matches or surpasses cars costing more then 100k and much more, at this price, its definitely decent.
i consider this a ALMOST a warm hatch… still far from what the golf has – 170hp golf gt (warm) and 200hp golf gti (hot).
yeah ,totally agreed with u guys..
they always want sumtin cheap for gud quality things for a local product..
never complain about exported stuff,
y dun they du it theirself n let us condemn it,
never think of the other side of people which strugglin to develope
this AWESOMENOUS..
if u cannot afford it,
go built urself ur own car la!!
no money no talk ok,
juz go n drive ur box car like u always do..
bnyk ckp, bnyk kutuk tp xde dwet nk bli..
dan paling sedih x bli g n x pkai pon lg kete ni
dah bnyk ckp..
get a life la u retard..lmao..lol
Congratz proton,keep up d gud work^^
support local!!!
peace,,
huu if u all dun want diz car how about buying it 4 me??
hehehe i freally want it want to show-off
Good!!but…cannot enter AFOS ah for CPS…regulation said max HP is 120HP…emmm…
Ya,is very nice and look beautiful,but the price is a bit expensive.If every time release a improvement engine need to add 5~10k, next generation will cost 65~70k??
Not even the darker interior shade like you mentioned, Paul? If i'm not wrong the material used on Gen2 CPS is better than the one used in models prior to it. So has the material on the Neo CPS improved as well? If yes, is this improvement also found in non-CPS Neo, namely the M-Line and the Lite version.
Thanks, Paul :)
Yes it is, mate.
Vios and Yaris share the same engine. So as City and Jazz also share the same engine. I think Latio and Livina too? But just because they are Japs, nobody would even mention about it. And car manufacturers usually do use the same engine for a few of their models to cut production cost. I don't see why is it boring.
whatever techs it has, it's valves are still driven by a belt, a 60's design!
sorry, not 60's but 1945!
Paul, I wonder will this be the last version of Neo's generation ? But from my own opinion I think there will be another version,a more hardcore one. Since the car has only been in the market for 2-3years. Whats your opinion about that
paul, do u ask the protonian bout the transmission? i think this new neo must have a set of gear ratio
iafm tu nk solve torque dip yg ade pd CAMPRO….
tu pn salah ke? xdgr org byk complen psl torque dip pd campro tu myakitkan hati?
Guys, as chap_de_x said, go to ur nearest showroom, and SEE THE CAR first in flesh and blood be4 giving comments. I think that will give you guys a better perspective of wat the neo cps is all about…..remember, this car is better in terms of handling compared to any other proton cars and some sports car out there…..DRIVE IT FIRST THEN U WILL KNOW WHY I AM TELLING THIS…..When this Neo Cps was build, they had only one thing in mind, the best handilng they could ever achiveve….hence the refinements like different track and so on….the top speed stated is 190 km/h….i know this is the same as the old neo, but i've heard during test drive's in highways it easily reaches 210 km/h and it even hit 240 few times (could other factors helping). It has smoked numerous vtec and ah beng's in their souped up turbochargers….why? Cause of the handling….malaysian roads generally have more bends then straights….so having a super fast car at straights and then suffering at corners is a big no no…..this was wat Neo CPS was built for…..
I have told this sometime ago, in order to achiver superior handling, it is not like 'potong the spring' and lower the car, u can achieve super handling…..u need to start from the structure itself…..thats the main reason why this NEO CPS is 50++ kg more heavier then the normal ones…..cause certain areas has been strengthened and reinforced to give a rigid body….this is done numerous ways, which one of it is increasing thickness of the structure in certain areas…..thus creasting a rigid body! When this is done, the handling characteristics of the car changes, then comes Lotus into the picture to tune suspension set up and so on. The spoiler and diffuser is to help to create downforce at corners so that ur rear end behaves accordingly to the front. In a FWD car, most of it understeers at a corner, but due to the help of Lotus, some proton cars, like Savvy and Neo, it slightly oversteers…most manufacturer would love, to have a neutral or maybe almost neutral handling car. But this is quite imposible to achieve because many factors are involved like either its FWD, RWD, front engine, rear engine, middle engine, weight distribution, suspension setups and so on….
Proton said they were NO changes to chassis, so what do you mean by changing thickness in certain areas? Even the front and rear track difference was done with changing wheel offset without any structural changes.
However with this Neo CPS u can somehow obtain an AlMOST neutral characteristic becuase;
1) In a corner, the rear end must be as predictable and controllable as the front….so with the help of a wider track at the rear and the spoiler+diffuser (downforce)…this can be achieved.
2) The body has been reinforced and restrentghened so better overall control of the car (less chasis flex and so on)
3) Since the original design is meant to slighty oversteer, introducing an understeer set up (reducing the front track) shud cancel off the oversteer. This would create an almost neutral car. The reason why everbody wants a neutral or an almost neutral car is because u can go faster at a corner, ur vehicle dynamics is more precise (precise and accurate handling), u can easily anticipate the car's handling limit, and easier to control especially at fast corners….
i somewhat agree paul, but i think for the malaysian market and its 'uniqueness', and with the pricing that we have here, i think the neo qualifies as a 'hot hatch', mainly because the VW's are priced too high. i would even dare say, its a hot hatch for mass market.
but hot hatches, even the original gti didnt traditionally start out with big hp in mind right?
Why still someone comparing this neo with myvi SE?myvi SE is still an ordinary myvi with some facelift and bodykit.but THIS neo is near like a performance car..
i still feel this neo is a bit overdone.but still better than myvi se which only having a cosmetic impact rather than engine tune up as this neo.
gud try Proton..
i just had a test drive for neo cps. i can say that the pick up was damn good though i only drove the car for a few hundred meters. simply refer the dyno graph for better understanding. the body looks solid and the front grill is different from previous neo.
but then, you have to spend extra 9k++ to get a neo cps compared to neo mline. the differences are obviously the engine, bodykit, leather seat, rims, airbag and abs (did i miss something?) other things remain the same. the interior, radio, air-cond knob, button etc.
for me it is such a big investment to have those kind of things. hmmm… i'm still considering…but my heart says go buy the mline one. you modified your car bits by bits. than it would be more satisfied. yeah i follow what my heart said.
in fact, the neo cps takes 1-2 months to arrive rather than ordinary neo which takes not more than 1 months. hmmm….
lu pikir la sindri
cps with powerzone extractor and lightenened crank puley wil easily hit 130-133 hp…which i tink its already alot considering this is only a 1.6cc engine….
Paul, i think dat the JPJ requirement dat make proton cars look lousy on power.. coz they dun like local car to surpass them in the road hahaha
In that case the Perdana V6 would be banned!
we cant compare to vw,pug or citroen hot hatch paul. they had lot experience n technology.even citroen ax gti hav 100hp psa tu3 engine on 1990. and ofcourse the car only 800kg and make it pocket rocket.
the original gti mk1 did 0 to 100km/h in 9 seconds, a full 1.5 seconds faster than the manual neo cps.
overpriced again..
is the pick up improved from the old neo?
good news to rally race-wanabee though…
proton quality pls…………………………………………………………………..
proton's best car just got better,sifu is this car 4star ncap rating,i saw on other blog about this
nabill
cps with powerzone extractor and lightenened crank puley wil easily hit 130-133 hp…which i tink its already alot considering this is only a 1.6cc engine….
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if u do this, u definitely will smoke off civec 2.0 r-type and burn off myvi se.. hehe..
For me Neo is the only proton model that made me say wow when they launch it last 2 years and now they come out with much more better facelift version and i own 1 of them. IMHO why proton did't consider to put this model (same design) but in 4 doors.
H-Line (Black)
RM58,200 (MT)
RM60,200 (AT)
H-Line (White)
RM58,000 (MT)
RM60,000 (AT)
PLZZZZ tell me this is coming to AUSTRALIA …..A.S.A.P!!!!! WOts the price say in aussie dollars just for example? anyone know?
So Paul,You mean that the car track was only done by changing the wheels offset,means if I were to change the Rim to another set,the car track would back to the normal 1470mm? Can you kindly enlighten me with that. thanks
and also Do you think they will come up with some upgrades later,as this neo cps is like a replacement to the H-Line with enhancement. It is nvr meant to be a Satria GTi level of car? R3 was on the normal CamPro but how about this ? Do they offer the R3 optional trim to this Neo Cps to make it more hardcore?
better get an ordianary neo n did some change under the engine hood like neo r3..
more performence n adrenaline…
HORRIBLY MADE
better get gen2 cps, rather than this…come on, the pricing is quite high.
i bet theres going to be a satria neo CPS *italic* turbocharge. rite sifu?
overall i think that this car is really good. only thing is the price. but it looks really good. CONGRATS proton.
lonely1988 said,
February 14, 2009 @ 9:10 am
proton quality pls…………………………………………………………………..
—————————————————————-open both of ur eyes then………………………………………………………..
diezel said,
February 14, 2009 @ 3:03 pm
PLZZZZ tell me this is coming to AUSTRALIA …..A.S.A.P!!!!! WOts the price say in aussie dollars just for example? anyone know?
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similar prices with impian/waja in australia i quess….
low lift and longrunner 0-4400rpm, its probally in the iterest of further keeping midrange torque meaty, so that long legged gearing suited relax torquey high speed cruise,
sifu correct me if its not right.
similar pricing i mean…
hmm…sifu's explanation is always interesting 8)
i haven't drive a neo yet. i wish to drive one. preferably cps-ed neo.
my personal opinion:
*if u want to modify here-&-there, better buy the barebone.
*if u don't want to modify, better take the topspecs.
err 1more thing.
pls comment after try driving aa.
dun just see pics & "kondem", later hide behind the pc.
be a wise & respectable commentor :)
si fu don't talk cock la, r u the one tuning the chassis? if not then reserved your comments only to your area ok?
satria neo cps
the Malaysian Job…hehe
;)
offtopic>>
ala..let him (sifu) say whatever he knows.
it's good to speak & share ideas :)
tanasi, u re the one who talk cock.
as a vehicle engineer, sifu n all proton engineers must know everything bout the vehicle they developed…n tuning a chassis just a part knowledge the must have to know
satria r3 is better la(from power aspect).proton must use 2.0 engine plus turbosupercharge with more safety features(ABS,EBD,ESC etc)use thinner seats(give more space to passangers,besides sporty drivers no need to be comfortable and the new seat spoiling the style of this car).make it in 5 doors,and they will be the malaysian golf.at that time we can send VW golf back to germany.i am very dissapointed with this product.just wasting my time.about the price,proton should discuss with the government by neglecting impropriate tax.but i think the price is decided by proton itself.
Good job proton….different person, different opinion!!
Tanasi, if u dont like my comment….dont read….first of all…u dont even know who am i and which dept i work in…..so whose the one talking 'cock' now? Chasis means a whole different thing in Proton…so please dont make urself a fool…..
Paul and guys….
I rechecked back about the weight and structure modification, as Paul stated earlier, there is NO CHANGES made to the BODY STRUCTURE….it has the same body as the M-Line…please do forgive me for the mistake. So the extra 50++ kilos comes from:-
CPS Engine, Side Skirt, Rear Spoiler, Rear Diffurser, Leather Interior , Air Bag System, ABS + EBD System.
I never include stuff like Front Bumper, Rims and Retuned Suspension System because all cars have this (definitely they need to hav tis kan) its just redesign (different pattern n shape) in the Neo CPS so i doubt it would contribute much weight, most to most maybe a kilo or two….so again do please forgive me for my mistake…
Cheers!
offtopic>>
o~ itu macamka, sifu?
ok ok :)
betulkan fakta yg xtepat, barulah bole belajar :)
I'm waiting for the Saga H-line
sifu which department u in proton?
i love it, but its a little too pricey for a proton car agreed?
Sorry Aush, i cant reveal that….but i have been in a few depts before i came to the dept i am in now….btw why would u like to know?
May I know how's the performance of the Audio system in Neo? Is there AUX-in available?
The commitment done by proton engineers is quite amazing as explained by si-fu in his comments. I guess this will be the beginning for malaysia in creating a world-champion racing car especially for drifting, that will be on par with other performance cars like the Supra or rx8 within 10 years time.
Though its not a torque of a Lotus 1.8, it can really bring back some oldzkool memories to me about the racing scene in Klang Valley about 9 years ago, and now the roads are way much safer to drive as compared to those days. Thanks alot proton gurus for making the CPS a 'fuel-economy' performance engine! :P
Btw, to Mr.Si-fu, since ur a proton strongman, can you ask proton to add 1 or 2 more color type for these neo cps. Slate gray or pale brown perhaps..
Mara-Banana CP5!!
I am planning to get Neo lite with IAFM.Looks like my plan goes to the drain…why the heck they retain Campro Kosong?any idea Paul?
Paul Tan says: They could be keeping that for a facelift. The Neo has not been facelifted yet, just a CPS variant added.
still too pricey for a proton..
no offense but..
shud the pricetag be that high over sumtin that ppl SHOULD be having years before..? (i mean the proper cps installation in the 1st campro engine – a proper engine from the beginning!)
pls keep it lower as IT IS a local malaysian made car FOR malaysian ok…
yeah, sure it have lots of goodies offered now..but the only thing that matters is the engine..other things, ppl can put in later if they want…
i've read it in papers that this neo cps targetted young executives as their main market for buyers..
young executives with monthly salaries ranging from rm2500 to rm5000 per month..
i guess their rite tho..only those who dont know else wat to do wif their money will buy a neo..
better still,if ppl can afford to pay rm1k per month for car installment only..they shud get better cars..IMHO…
no offense evryone..
i loved the new neo cps too but i just think its damn pricey for a 2-door hatchback man..(wif no room for average tall ppl summore..?)
come on proton…
do u really want to limit ur buyers to certain ppl only..?
for me,its a situation like..
i really want it..but i dont think i shud have it..cuz there lots more things i can do wif the money…
anyways,i'm just against the price here..not the car itself… ;)
p/s: just dont bash me over "dont have money then shut up laa" issue… :P
wif over rm55k to spend..i still think neo cps is way overpriced…
better get bigger gen2 cps or even the facelifted waja cps for that kind of money wasting..its more worth it…
after all its only the engine..a fully funtional engine that ppl want…
if ur saying neo's cps is much better than gen2's or waja's..then is it a totally different engine we are talking about…?
wif that amount of money..a cps in gen2/waja can be revised as good as neo's..
thats wat i think..
haha..wats happening to me..i really love the car but i really think its too overpriced… LOL :P
plus,not everyone wants all that new bodykits..cuz i prefer the skirts on old neo's..better i think..more plain looking..just the engine on this new one is menacing and have lots of potential…hmmmm….
sighs…
Finally a car i have been waiting for…Neo CPS!!
I am sure the car will be superb in handling,ride and so on.
No test drive unit yet in my hometown..
one thing i don;t like is the rear huge spoiler but i can live with that..
another big issue is the price..60k+
i was expecting sth like 55k..or less..
i hope i can test drive a unit soon
NOOOOOO…. I've been using neo for a year now!!!! I want CPS!!!!
better buy than BMW or Audi
is this model got auto climate control like export model,i see that in the pic
Yg aku tak paham adalah kenapa Proton suka guna screw Allen keys around the gear knob and on the steering well hub . Nampak so outdated and cheap looking …mcm kedai hardware . WOIIII! org Proton tolong tukar taste ok ada paham … org sakit mata tengok design macam tu ! other than that the car is fine
as usual….
"Malaysian product should sell cheap…" wtf….
later if sell cheap… "Waaa… so cheap…. must be sumthing worng with the product.. that's why so cheap…"….
typical…
i dont care what othr ppl say abt NEO CPS.. but i really like it so very2 much..plan to get one
Imo, i disagree to critics saying the neo CPS is TOO overpriced. When proton came out with Lotus GTi 1.8, the starting price was more than 70k. Same goes to the selling price for R3 satria 1.8. Now with this new mean machine, we can save up more than 10k to upgrade the performance of the car. Turbo phase 1, 2 + 3??
We can't compare it with Gen-2, since proton empasized on a 'Better-handling' for this model. Hence, the engineering done on neo cps' aerodynamic has allow it to be capable of pushing the car to its speed limit safely, especially in drag race events. Thus, might be the fastest 1.6 vehicle in the country with a lower accident rate.
And i believe, the soundsystem for the car is the best among all proton models. Sadly, most people know that audio players using thumbdrive (juz like MyVi.SE) is the latest trend for all, as it promotes convenient, mobility, durability and safety for music lovers. So, i hope proton will apply this device for all the new proton models so their brand remains competitive when AFTA comes in at full throttle.
And pls, consider this rebel as a big boys toy and not a family transport vehicle. :P
Need for Speed – Nitro –
satria neo its my dream car….i wil get it in short time,,,,,supportlah buatan malaysia,,
salam.tahniah kpd Proton krn berjaya mengeluarkan Satria Neo CPS ni..bodykits cun,siap diffuser..tp kalau lagi cun spoiler blakang tu bt mcm R3..kecikkan skit..pastu ekzos tu..bg le yang sporty n garang..sport rim besau skit…dashboard mcm Gen2 CPS pun cun kalau taruk dalam..stereng tu..ubahlah…macam apa tah..baik guna Saga nye stereng..enjin ok..make up mau lebey…ni cdgn yg membina..
rfsx,
Comments for you.
rfsx said,
February 17, 2009 @ 10:42 am
still too pricey for a proton..
no offense but..
shud the pricetag be that high over sumtin that ppl SHOULD be having years before..? (i mean the proper cps installation in the 1st campro engine – a proper engine from the beginning!)
[Terence: Which manufacturer(s) reduces the price tag when something replaced & added to the same product after years?]
pls keep it lower as IT IS a local malaysian made car FOR malaysian ok…
yeah, sure it have lots of goodies offered now..but the only thing that matters is the engine..other things, ppl can put in later if they want…
[Terence: Does this means You and I are having low working quality?]
i’ve read it in papers that this neo cps targetted young executives as their main market for buyers..
young executives with monthly salaries ranging from rm2500 to rm5000 per month..
i guess their rite tho..only those who dont know else wat to do wif their money will buy a neo..
better still,if ppl can afford to pay rm1k per month for car installment only..they shud get better cars..IMHO…
[Terence: Would people who ride motorbike think people who drive don't know what else to do with their money?]
no offense evryone..
i loved the new neo cps too but i just think its damn pricey for a 2-door hatchback man..(wif no room for average tall ppl summore..?)
come on proton…
do u really want to limit ur buyers to certain ppl only..?
[Terence: I believe your phrase above (targeted young executives) had answered your doubt here]
for me,its a situation like..
i really want it..but i dont think i shud have it..cuz there lots more things i can do wif the money…
[Terence: Same as many people when seeing new launching of euro cars]
anyways,i’m just against the price here..not the car itself… ;)
[Terence: You should mention this to Euro manufacturers as many of us are dreaming of them everyday.]
p/s: just dont bash me over “dont have money then shut up laa” issue… :P
rfsx said,
February 17, 2009 @ 10:56 am
wif over rm55k to spend..i still think neo cps is way overpriced…
better get bigger gen2 cps or even the facelifted waja cps for that kind of money wasting..its more worth it…
[Terence: Every car serves it's purpose. Car manufacturer does not produce All in 1 product]
after all its only the engine..a fully funtional engine that ppl want…
if ur saying neo’s cps is much better than gen2’s or waja’s..then is it a totally different engine we are talking about…?
wif that amount of money..a cps in gen2/waja can be revised as good as neo’s..
[Terence: Are gen2, waja and neo sharing same chasis?]
thats wat i think..
haha..wats happening to me..i really love the car but i really think its too overpriced… LOL :P
[Terence: Go for Neo Lite)
plus,not everyone wants all that new bodykits..cuz i prefer the skirts on old neo’s..better i think..more plain looking..just the engine on this new one is menacing and have lots of potential…hmmmm….
[Terence: Agreed. How much would the engine upgrade (old Neo to current) costs?]
sighs…
i test drive this neo yesterday.. very powerfull ma…so i've book 1.maybe next week arrived 2 my house..
LMAO… Terence…. it easy…
From rfsx comments… all i heard is….
" I weally weally want to buy NEO CPS…. I weally weally love it…. but I dun have the money to buy it…. huhuhu… pls PROTON lower the price…. "
Hehehe…. =p
terence- omg sweet thinking.. :D
no money no talk la.. got money but don't like it then get lost..
satria neo cps is only for selfish people, like me. don't want carry passenger, and drive like crazee.. heheh..
hehh..well then…
lets just see how many neo cps on the road after this..since it is a 'limited' production..
n pls do drive carefully ya cuz i wud really hate it to see anyone crash their small precious overpriced 2-door with supposed 'latest' tech from proton (which shud have been out years back)..
yep,no money no talk..but i still think the old campro engine shud have been scrapped n replaced by the newer engine as it shud be the completed engine it shud have in the very 1st place..
(oo..did sumone suggest neo lite? err..why on earth wud sumone waste money over a small car with weak engines anyway..?)..
rm60k for a premium neo cps (dont forget the engine we're talking here is just a normally aspirated 1600cc dohc – which is no new thing even wif the cps as the technology is a prime in the 90's..duhh~ wonder wat year is it now huh..)
to nesh310 :
man, no issues on not supporting local product nor proton especially in my case..i just want proton to give their customer more proper pricing on sumting that cannot be considered as a new thing (to proton yes its a new tech,but not the world ok?)..yes,it is an achievement by proton, kudos for that..but its sumwat unethical to me to add more price to sumtin that shud have been delivered since the 1st campro as cps was the original idea of campro engine to be developed in the 1st place!
soon,proton will introduce turbocharged/supercharged cps..
if its sumtin that is turbo-ed/supercharged, then i dont mind the pricetag la..
(wonder if proton wud add another rm10k for that matter..haha)
but we're talking a 1.6NA here la wei..
same case over satria neo r3 thats using the old but revised campro..
rm70k over for wat..? not even an airbag was installed..haha..
(maybe the targetted buyers are those wif hard enuff skull ;p)
watever..anyways, all i'm saying is that we ppl shud not be getting sumtin thats worth a dime for a dollar..
to LogicallyMad :
"later if sell cheap… “Waaa… so cheap…. must be sumthing worng with the product.. that’s why so cheap…”…."
that was only u thinking..i never said that i hated neo for wat it is (if i hated it,i wont be bother to even click the thread la)..
i just meant that proton shudnt add extra rm10k for sumtin that was supposed to be in the system in the 1st place..thats kinda robbing ppl…
but,who cares..u guys got all the money to spend and dont mind giving away rm10k (to proton) for sumtin u shud be getting at lesser price..
anyways,gud luck wif the new car..to those who oredi booked it..
it is a good car indeed..that makes me wanna beg proton for one..;p
i can just watch n maybe grab it when its devalued in another 10yrs maybe..
hehh..
happy motoring~
oh ya..
to terence..
dude,why u even bother mentioning about imported cars hmm..?
does proton also got taxed 200% by the G..?
funny la u..
n yes, i also wanna know how much is the cost to upgrade from non-cps to a cps? care to share anyone?
How much is the Auto in Black right now? According to the Proton website, it's cheaper already.
Paul Tan says: That's a typo. I dunno who their website company is. I've already double checked with Proton and its the same price as launch price. If you go to the booking page the old price remains.
Lets ComPare the application of the CamPro CPS for these proton models:
Gen2(mt) @ RM 57488.00 Weight: 1225kg Rims: 15"
Waja(mt) @ RM 61888.00 Weight: 1215kg Rims: 15"
Neo (mt) @ RM 57313.00 Weight: 1212kg Rims: 16 inches
Which one is goin to smoke them all in Sepang? Which one will be the safest performance car around? Which locally made car has a better soundsystem than a satria neo?
So people would argue that the RM 9,000 difference of neo cps and the old neo is too much. Maybe the dual airbags, ABS with elektro, pre-tensioner, would cost around RM3k. While the engine upgrade and aerodynamic design investment for the 'mat-salleh Joint-venture' would cost RM6k to that. I still think that this babe is undervalued due to global economic recession. And for sure EPF contributors would want to a higher dividend if Khazanah Nasional are able to generate good profit this year.
Some also dreaming to ride this car with a 1800cc engine due to its furious outlook. I would suggest if people don't want to make this 'alang-alang' buy, it is best for cheapskates to get a neo-lite and convert the engine to Campro-CPS, but you might be spending more on your medicals supplies. Remember the accident at jln.Tun Razak (KL) during the 2009 countdown? That's the impact of a 'less than 180km' crash due to a poor aerodynamic of the old neo. No airbags and your days would be numbered.. But actually that location any lightweight car can easily fly one if driven fast.
As for me, if my budget goes green light. I would buy the manual and save the RM3k for a 17" gold-color rims for the white one, tint glass and airbrush abit juz like one of dat hollywood show.. Mo faz Mo Fuliiiez.. haha j/k :P
Pls be patience adrenaline junkies, this is juz an initial stage for Proton in developing a high-performance car using local engine. So now, we are able to believe that Proton is able to be a competitive brand in the global arena. IF the country were to scrap the 200% tax on imported cars, which 1.6 model will dudes like slimershine will buy at a price of below RM 65k ???
rfsx said,
February 18, 2009 @ 6:41 pm
oh ya..
to terence..
dude,why u even bother mentioning about imported cars hmm..?
does proton also got taxed 200% by the G..?
funny la u..
n yes, i also wanna know how much is the cost to upgrade from non-cps to a cps? care to share anyone?
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Yalar, I'm Superb funny…
Check out the rates for their locally made vehicles at neighboring countries and you may like to remove your earlier comments.
For 55k, go get a 2nd hand well sorted Fiat Coupe 20vt.
220bhp, over 300nm torque, will do 0-100 in 6s, has the looks, couple with the talents and it is an european car..
before anyone comes up with reliability, makan minyak, no resale value…I believe the proton boys can't claim reliability as their main virtue, fuel saving as their strong points and resale value of the satria neo as its strengh.
it is a lukewarm hatch, suzuki swifts sports is also a lukewarm hatch…dont misuse the term hot hatch, that they reserve for the clios,golfs and etc..
suka beli, a well sorted car the neo is…but don't praise until no limits.
it's a good buy for some, a bad buy for some…
for not a distorted market price, 55k can buy you real hot hatches….and satria neo cps will be overprice..
hey ya guys~
its me, rfsx..
to terence..
man..ur again comparing imported cars..
i dont care in where their sold..they are still IMPORTED..
do u really understand my frustrations..?
or do u still not understand what imported means do u?
i'm frustrated cuz proton who is a local manufacturer..let me rephrase..
our very own national manufacturer that shud care for the local ppl that does this to us..
all i am ere is just bargaining the price ok?
dont just simply argue wif me for ur blind love to the car..i loved the car too..
just that i cant believe my eyes when they price it..cuz i dont think they shud price it that much just because of the cps engine..
maybe other goodies offered does impact the high raise of price..
but proton,just because u have found a way to finally complete the engine (sumtin that u shud have completed before), doesnt mean that u got to raised the price over the "unfinished/not complete" engine rite?
think about those who bought the 'unfinished/uncompleted' campro over the years..imagine how their feelings to spend more aftermarket just to overcome the torque dip problems from the original campro huh?
not completed engine is the same like defective engine to me..
but i'm not saying the old campro is defective..its just unfinished..
do u know that to make it fully functional,u gotta rev over 6k rpm? – do that everyday n ur be a regular at any pump station..haha
if it was just rm5k increase,then maybe i wont be whining here..
but its rm10k ppl..thats alot of money for some..
and to get that from ur own beloved national carmaker…damn..
this is just like the overpriced latest myvi se..
(dont care much for it tho..not into it..haha)
satria neo cps in my opinion is the best effort shown by proton in its achievement to make a performance car using their very own engine..
i wanna say kudos proton for that..
but making it sumwat 'limited'..then..whats the hype is all for..?
n for those who simply judge my comments before..haha like i even care..
i'm just bargaining (n a lil bit of whining..sumwat begging..heheh)..
hey,its for u guys too..if proton really cares,they just might price it rite..dont u want it?
n again to terence..(since u replied me so brilliantly n looked way over ur head doing that)..
do u think that the recent lancer 2.0gt is at a right price for its kind of car? do take note that its fully imported CBU..
think again..think harder..
its proton who controls the price..
n i'm just saying that the consumers can make a difference in it…
cheers, [rfsx]
terence said :
"Check out the rates for their locally made vehicles at neighboring countries and you may like to remove your earlier comments."
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yep..in thailand, gen2 cps price started at B549,000 = ~RM56547 (direct convert)
in malaysia itself..the price for gen2 cps started at RM57488..
gen2 cps..ok? not iafm..
what the hell is going on?
need i say more?
pocketrocket said :
"suka beli, a well sorted car the neo is…but don’t praise until no limits.
it’s a good buy for some, a bad buy for some…
for not a distorted market price, 55k can buy you real hot hatches….and satria neo cps will be overprice.."
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at last..
couldnt agree more..
thanks for being so human in understanding whats really going on in malaysia..
also,thanks for "being logic and not mad"..
as for proton,pls make it rite for the ppl who support u..
not by punishing us furthermore by giving supposedly a national product at higher price than it shud be..
no quality issues here pls as i stated b4, i love the car too..
(i just have to say this again n again so that no more morons will misunderstood me..)
rgds,
rfsx.
harap-harap pihak proron lepas ni tolong la kasi upgrade sikit proton savvy pulak..kalau boleh luaran nya menarik setanding Neo CPS ni .
[quote comment="213136"]harap-harap pihak proron lepas ni tolong la kasi upgrade sikit proton savvy pulak..kalau boleh luaran nya menarik setanding Neo CPS ni .[/quote]
yes and please change the engine to 1.3 campro CPS please…
Proton shud make an RS (race spec) version for NEO…
Yah…I agree the price for proton car are still too expensive to us. If you got budget RM50K to buy a car. Atcually, in UK you can buy Ford, Honda, Renault, Toyota already. Thats why, I am now in UK…didn't see Proton Car in the road…only saw honda, toyota….a lot of Ford, BMW, & Renault… If you dont believe it please go to http://www.proton.co.uk. see the price selling in UK…similar to the price selling in malaysia & more cheaper. That price atcually in UK we can buy Civic, Toyota, Ford, already.
Barang buatan malaysia, kita anak malaysia mestilah beli dengan harga lebih murah!!!!
Proton Lover.
Yes, agree with YK Nalsa.
haha..
newcomers here…all satria variants so damn cool
even an old satria 1.6 can easily reach 200kmh
hopefully neo cps will do s d same if not faster
-oo-
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[quote comment="212170"]terence said :
"Check out the rates for their locally made vehicles at neighboring countries and you may like to remove your earlier comments."
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yep..in thailand, gen2 cps price started at B549,000 = ~RM56547 (direct convert)
in malaysia itself..the price for gen2 cps started at RM57488..
gen2 cps..ok? not iafm..
what the hell is going on?
need i say more?[/quote]
IIRC, last Dec they did a RM6k year-end promo, aside from the RM5k xchange promo.
U like thailand so much u go work there la. At least vios is cheap there. U happy, we get peace frm ur grass-is-greener-on-the-other-side comments.
[quote comment="212156"]
if it was just rm5k increase,then maybe i wont be whining here..
but its rm10k ppl..thats alot of money for some..
and to get that from ur own beloved national carmaker…damn..
[rfsx][/quote]
Actually, they did oni increase RM5k over the H-line Satria Neo.
i think,satria neo cps will top machine
Haven't seen any on the road so far. Too expensive? :/
Actualy, we all must should admit to the pricing strategy implemented by proton for the neo-cps is very fair and reflect the financial uncertainty of the global business environment. Taking the latest handphone as an example, iPhone, the starting price is usually high for the first few month, and might be increased due to scarcity in meeting the market demand. And it usually takes another new iphone model to bring down the price of current phone model, maybe in a year or two.
As for the UK market, we need to understand the shipping distance of the car factories. If i'm not mistaken, back in year 2000, proton did sell a satria 1.5 blue-color model in the UK. But what i heard is that they sold the car over there at cost price as a brand promotion strategy. Not sure about the old-neo. And brands like Ford, Honda, Renault, Toyota might look like doing well, but now everyone knows that ford and toyota are facing financial crisis. Bad pricing mechanism perhaps.. We being the young and wise Malaysians, must know how to observe the weaknesses of others in order to improve our own strengths.
As for a marketing perspective, if proton were to market 1.8 cps engine before this 1.6 cps, that would be an extremely bold move as more tests are needed to be done and this involves MORE spending to develop a SAFE performance car. And for sure, everyone would not hesitate to get a 1.8 cps instead of 1.6 becoz the target market for satria are usually street racers demanding a high performance engine. So, i believe people buying this car now, will later convert to a 1.8 cps when proton releases the engine into the market. Hence, product improvement must be properly taken in stages. In six month time, there might be people complaining about this car. And using such feedbacks, can be used to strengthen the identity of a 1.8 satria neo in the future. It's nice to hear not many people complaining about the quality of this neo-cps as if it's now has become a flawless proton model.
I would support this pricing mechanism as it promotes competition and anti-monopoly, whereby other car manufacturers like Naza and 'Perodua' are able to have a fair slice of the market share from the domestic car sales. I would also think twice of buying this car, if not becoz the intervention of Lotus in creating a safe performance car to drive around, nicely and politely. :P Honestly, since most people here complaining about the price, I feel like i'm now gonna buy a limited edition imported car from Tokyo. hahaha..
very cool beb..
more nice than the satria GTI before.
i like most of it except the spoiler..
tokmoh said :
"IIRC, last Dec they did a RM6k year-end promo, aside from the RM5k xchange promo.
U like thailand so much u go work there la. At least vios is cheap there. U happy, we get peace frm ur grass-is-greener-on-the-other-side comments."
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no need to go to thailand to get cheaper price for a car..
we malaysian still got langkawi..haha
just for comparison..
a 2.0gt lancer cost only rm71800 otr with insurance in langkawi..(yep,without a tax but bear in mind that its still fully imported cbu unit..and from my opinion is much better car than neo..even neo lite price started at rm46900 – for a mere basic 1.6na and so lack of equipment)..
but of course no use mentioning it since d price only valid in langkawi..
but my point is..
how can a national carmaker price the car up that high..?
does proton also got to pay very high tax to d G..? like 100% tax..?
we just got screwed forever by our own national make..
well,dont blame me for not being patriotic then.. ;p
n if ur eyes are hurting from my comments..
pls just ignore it n be an ignorant person forever..
i'm just using my every right to post anything thats goin thru my head as long as its not totally out of d topic rite?
just correct me if i'm wrong n turn my negative perception of our national automotive industry the other way around or just leave me be..
simple right? ;)
"Actually, they did oni increase RM5k over the H-line Satria Neo." <-yea,i knew that..but still wonder wats the use of old campro in the m-line n neo lite then? do they want everyone to convert their existing neo to cps..? that wud cost even more then the neo cps..
gotta forked out more just to have a proper car that shud be by standard level even for the lite version..
peace out man~
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to KhazanahN1 :
i wish that i can accept the bitter reality as u man..
but for how long..? how many pockets should we satisfied?
n buying a car is not like buying an iphone bro..
yes iphone price wud drop much if the newer models are introduce..
but i'm not hearing any good news on other proton models after they finally came out wif the cps engine..? d old price still remains…hows that for a comparison?
anyways thanks for ur comments..it soothens me..haha ;) n a much better brilliant comments then some others to read..
proton cars also have tax on it…happy motoring
aku rasalah enjin camprocps ni baru layak dipanggil campro sahaja.ini kerana enjin ni baru dilengkapkan setelah rakyat malaysia dihidangkan dgn enjin camTAKpro selama 5 tahun.ini bukan soal aku nak jadi basher ke hapa ker,ini hanya pandangan aku;betul tidak,salah pun tidak.PEACE!!!!!!
u r so right brutal_driverz..
thats wat i've been saying all these times…
thats why i questioned the pricetag..
and thats why i wonder so much why they are still selling models with camTAKpro engines inside…
we're so screwed..
460 :
yepp,i knew it..we all knew it..but there's nuthin can be done…
to those who oppose..
just think about other makes on their own country..
how much they sell their car locally?
d grass is definitely greener on some side of the globe..
in automotive industry that is..
sighs…
The price is definitely lessening the sales of this car. Bad pricing certainly.
y u going to spoil dat bloody good car?
Ala.. Cakap senang. Ada ke patut die cakap Campro CPS patut 10 tahun lepas da kuar. Bongok ape. Org baru nak blaja, memang la baru nak kuar. Cakap punya senang patut kuar lama, tapi aku nak tgk cube die buat teknologi ni 10 tahun lepas on ur own. Bodoh. Masa tu kita tak da teknologi dan pengetahuan macam tu. Kita develope enjin ini dari sketch. Kita develop kasi maju. Takkan baru start buat enjin terus jadi CPS. ini bangang namanye. Cakap besar mcm banyak ilmu, tapi benggap juga org ni.Harga mahal sebab produksinya sikit dan very limited. Bukan utk org ramai. Proton buat neo CPS bukan utk dapat untung. Malah aku rasa takkan ada untung pun buat CPS. Ini baru Jeremy Clarkson respect skit pada proton. Kalau tak jadi macam Kelisa la. Hancur berderai. Buat kereta bukan utk passion tapi utk MONEY.. Even kalau harga die murah, i dun think u will buy it, because u are such a basher, if we satisfied u pun, u wont buy it. So no use of entertain u, because a lot of other ppl will buy it including me. I got money, no problem for me to buy it. If u dont have money, go buy persona or saga lah. Murah skit, Campro gak. Cume performance tak le pi jauh sampai 240KM/h je la.. Muahahaha….
Morale of the story is; if you want to feel the real punch of this malaysia's premier engine, use the most stable car for that. So, Dr.Gen2-cps and Mr.Waja-cps, please dont race with this nNeo on the streets becoz those models are not VERY stable when it comes to making cornerings and driving at top speed.
Nice to see the new Proton Exora using USB input and card reader for its audio system.. with LCD summore!! Can sell neo @RM65k if using this. Keep up the good work Proton, in upgrading the social class for malaysian citizens at a cheaper price.
Hmmm.. whois Jeremy Clarkson in the world of motorsports? I love his TopGear car reviews; honest, fair and funny. :)
You're right Mr menawan. They all are losers! plz dont just complain..look at yourself. we are in developing country. not developed country. Remember that we are developing our own engine. plz dont compare with thailand and all. Goverment put tax bcoz there's a reason behind it. Open your eyes, with tax people still buy merz, porch and all. imagine if we dont put tax, what will happen to the country? nway im not expert in this. but the thing is, proton already mentioned tht the NEO CPS is targeted only for people earn RM2,500- 5000..guest who complained is earning less than that maybe…haha! I ordered one. and I may put turbo on it. and i can outrun Mini Cooper S, Suzuki Swift Sport. Menawan..hand dh order gak kan? jom buat club Neo CPS ;)
Eh Menawan, awak ni memang bangang. Proton buat Neo CPS bukan untuk dapat untung? Habis apa? Nak bagi you komen aje eh? Bodoh.
One I like the most regarding this new car is that they are using a high tensile steel for the chassis therefor the handling should be superb. Even the old model is considered rigid thus making an appearance is TopGear Australia (Since someone here mention Jeremy) as the standard car for their segment.
Anyhow, I still think the pricing is OK. P1 need to make some profit since they are having some loses this year. for me I will always support P1.
Cheers!
Hi guys, just read through some of the comments. You guys are really funny arguing with each other. Anw, the car looks good. I plan to get it but will have to collect more info before making any rash decision. Btw, i heard this neo cps is proton's attempt to recapture the spirit of GTi. So what you guys think? Apparently GTi claim that it has 135 HP but i heard that actual dyno run is only 120 HP. Since this car is 125HP and from the information that i have, the neo CPS is definitely slower. Hm…i love the GTi but i wonder if i should get the GTi instead. will value you guys'opinion
I do think that getting a secondhand Satria GTi is better,
if you plan to take it to the track,
and you have another car for your daily usage.
To me it's unlikely this will be the one to replace the original GTi version,
its just too slow.
Satria Neo is a prime candidate for Proton to produce a hot hatch like the old GTi,
but I think Proton won't make the GTi version anytime soon,
given the current economic climate.
Datuk Syed Zainal seems to be very rational on making these sort of decisions,
so maybe only when Proton financial status is in good shape,
the reborn of the GTi will happen.
Is there any news on what is Proton planning to do with the mline n lite version? Are they going to install the cps in as well or just let it be? A facelift probably?
Can some pros around here care to give good comment(s):
1. Has campro-cps 1.6 achieved the best score during dyno-testing, meaning that it's the best 1.6 engine that proton have ever used?
2. If i want to transfer the Proton-GTi engine into this neo-cps. Is the aerodynamic design done to neo-cps, can really help to make the car go faster than its original '98 GTi?? LOL! :P
to menawan :
bro,kalo tak pasal nak duit jugak..laaaagi le tak patut rege dia camtu..
utk passion..? who're u kidding man? there's lot more better secondhand/recon car out there u can get for d passion u mentioned ok? u also knew this,so just stop bluffing urself n everyone le..
and talking about technology..yepp,we shud be proud..building sumtin from scratch aa…
err..whoever asked u to? btul ke build from scratch pun? bodoh sombong le kalu gitu..
punya byk source kat luar sana,apsal degil nak reinvent the wheel?
as far as i know..cps technology dah lama pun wujud dlm dunia ni..cuma nama dia je la berbeza..so amde ko ckp pasal buat from scratch blabla ni?
the idea itself already spread worldwide ok?
yes,it is new for proton..but not the world..and just for that i think that there's supposedly no brag about it..it is NOT a new thing le..
aman said :
"imagine if we dont put tax, what will happen to the country?"
on national cars u mean?
all proton cars will be sold under rm20k each..
no more kapcai on the road,superbikes yes..
meaning anyone can afford a car..
supposedly a NATIONAL car..
thats wat will happen..
and probably u urself can have a much much better car at that good rm60k..
paham?
i'm not prejudice about proton nor it techs ok?
proton can be as good as any car company worldwide..
all i'm saying is that why oh why the one we supported have to let us down…
anyhow..
thanks proton n u guys..
i have lost my interest in this new neo anyway..
what a big bigg turn off..
i'll just go n buy sumtin else worthwhile..
happy motoring, n have fun with ur new ride to those who actually booked it..
peace out..see ya guys in another thread..hahaha~
upgrade for an engine used in japan in the mid 90's. with a rm10k price. no wonder malaysia never accepted AFTA. still trying to protect their over-pampered baby proton.
[D]2Weet said,******
better u test drive d car by urself… different people diff experience…
perhap.. this new neo captured too many people's heart which are outside of proton's market target. thrfore for those who are'nt able to afford feels like proton being rather too proud that national car who are supposed to put malaysian as their main customer. because not many mlaysian car craze are a young executive. therefore people like me.. students (going to grad soon) feels very2 dissapointed because we could not afford it. most people will go for viva because that is the only car which they can afford. for those who are from rich family no need to feel the same because they can just their parent to anything that they like including BMW and MERC.
about the pricing proton have the rights to decide on the price tag because this is business. besides it is nation's business. if the country manage to develop well we might be surprise if the salary for a normal clerk could goes up to 3500 who knows…
overall, NEO CPS is a practical car for those who wants a presentable car but in the same time can revv & accelerate when being provoked…
Definitely looking forward for the ultimate NEO GTi
[quote comment="216365"]I do think that getting a secondhand Satria GTi is better,
if you plan to take it to the track,
and you have another car for your daily usage.
To me it's unlikely this will be the one to replace the original GTi version,
its just too slow.
Satria Neo is a prime candidate for Proton to produce a hot hatch like the old GTi,
but I think Proton won't make the GTi version anytime soon,
given the current economic climate.
Datuk Syed Zainal seems to be very rational on making these sort of decisions,
so maybe only when Proton financial status is in good shape,
the reborn of the GTi will happen.[/quote]
What you say is true. It is tough for this neo to follow in the footsteps of the old GTi. Long ago, there was this website about a Neo GTi Turbocharged..IMO, that will be a more suitable candidate to replace the GTi. About the AFTA, no way Malaysia would agree to that…LOL we all know what will become of Proton.
Anyone already booked this car? When is the ETA for collection? How much was the interest for the new car?
to Salamander..
the interest if i'm not mistaken would be 3.88% for 7yrs n 3.99% for 9yrs..
n the expected delivery time is 1-2months..
(how d hell wud i know? – i love d car..but it proton breaks my heart.. :P)
which also means,
we're forced to forked out another rm2k++ for it..
which totaled rm62k++ (for the most premium auto)..
all that for a 1.6L NA 2-door hatchback..
almost to the price of the old 1.8L GTi huh?
who cares..malaysian damn rich wat…hehehh~
n to nanachan :
we share the very same feeling…
heartbreak..haha~
satria neo-cps 1.6 <— a student's dream machine.
[quote comment="217345"]to Salamander..
the interest if i'm not mistaken would be 3.88% for 7yrs n 3.99% for 9yrs..
n the expected delivery time is 1-2months..
(how d hell wud i know? – i love d car..but it proton breaks my heart.. :P)
which also means,
we're forced to forked out another rm2k++ for it..
which totaled rm62k++ (for the most premium auto)..
all that for a 1.6L NA 2-door hatchback..
almost to the price of the old 1.8L GTi huh?
who cares..malaysian damn rich wat…hehehh~
n to nanachan :
we share the very same feeling…
heartbreak..haha~[/quote]
Yes..heartbreak…should have made it below 55k…
CPS engine is a must for every model too and they shouldn't scrap the H Line too..Becoz i would appreciate a H Line CPS without the bodykit and so on…also the CPS version now available in 2 colours only, if i wish to have another colour I need to repaint, which means more $$
Will there for facelift version? All Neo fit with CPS/IAFM? or just saving money to buy Vios/City better ??
Malaysian product cant sell cheap, we should pay more to support our carmaker maaa…. Another wish, cheap price will low down the import car and 2nd car price, then ppt able to buy it.
Local car tax, i think is +-5%
Import car tax normally is 30%, buat pensan :p
to GOGOobama,
When potong close, no more Giant Tax in Bolehland, we should celebrate 3 day 3 night.
mahal gile baik beli waja cps
[quote comment="217345"]to Salamander..
the interest if i'm not mistaken would be 3.88% for 7yrs n 3.99% for 9yrs..
n the expected delivery time is 1-2months..
(how d hell wud i know? – i love d car..but it proton breaks my heart.. :P)
which also means,
we're forced to forked out another rm2k++ for it..
which totaled rm62k++ (for the most premium auto)..
all that for a 1.6L NA 2-door hatchback..
almost to the price of the old 1.8L GTi huh?
who cares..malaysian damn rich wat…hehehh~
n to nanachan :
we share the very same feeling…
heartbreak..haha~[/quote]
Thanks for the info. Sill deciding if want to book this car or Suzuki Swift.
its so perfect…
gorgoes…
but i think if they come in 1.8 L engine is more farious…
tak guna nye NeoCPS..skang baru nak kuar. Kan aku dah terbeli Persona.
I am having a myvi rite now… Since neo Cps came out.. was thinking and interested to change to neo CPS.. would i get regret after changing to CPS? cause i am into a performance kinda guy~ lol… Some said myvi changing to neo is like kancil changing to kelisa.. No difference at all.. but make sense to me is that this neo engine get me interested on it.. Any opinions?
[quote comment="218633"]I am having a myvi rite now… Since neo Cps came out.. was thinking and interested to change to neo CPS.. would i get regret after changing to CPS? cause i am into a performance kinda guy~ lol… Some said myvi changing to neo is like kancil changing to kelisa.. No difference at all.. but make sense to me is that this neo engine get me interested on it.. Any opinions?[/quote]
well…all u need is "Test Drive" . Then u decide.
DEAR PROTON…..
WISH TO HAVE NEO WITH 4 DOORS..
GURANTEE YOUR SALES WILL BOOMMM UP TO 30%.
TRY ME..
interest rate for proton cars now 3.65%.. up to 9 years
aaaaaaaghhhhhhhhhh… i just felt sth wrong n called proton about the delivery of Neo CPS. my dealer confirmed again and they will delay the delivery for 3 months.all bcoz of Prority to Exora.arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! my tender no is end at this month..extended few times already. Fuck u EXORA!
[quote comment="218164"]Malaysian product cant sell cheap, we should pay more to support our carmaker maaa…. Another wish, cheap price will low down the import car and 2nd car price, then ppt able to buy it.
Local car tax, i think is +-5%
Import car tax normally is 30%, buat pensan :p
to GOGOobama,
When potong close, no more Giant Tax in Bolehland, we should celebrate 3 day 3 night.[/quote]
hahaha…do you think if proton is closed then import car tax is became lower? i don think so. if proton is closed, they should increase the import car tax to recover the tax losses of closing proton.
[quote comment="219209"]interest rate for proton cars now 3.65%.. up to 9 years[/quote]
Which bank?
seee they dont put this neo cps in the first page….fuck u EXORA! bcos of u the neo CPS is delayed. they want to use the limited CPS engine to put in EXORA… fuck u EXORA and fuck u whoever made the decision. I paid cash ok!!! why are they doing like this. im going to write letter
hello. i'm a newbie here. true ha neo cps will be delayed? aiya.. mana blh ini mcm.. hope delayed for certain dealers only..
why launch the satria neo CPS in Feb.and now tell us that the car delayed for another 3 months?? Why not launch it after EXORA?? I booked it on 16 Feb when the dealer told me it should be ready for delivery in one to two months. He mentioned that the demand wont be great so even they may deliver in one month. Why Proton collect my RM500 deposit and then cheat me and tell me the delivery is delayed. THIS IS BULLSHIT, COME ON, PROTON..shame on you!! This is absolutely poor business management!
anyone knows the sales volume for neo cps? or it's being delayed in everything?
Woah!! Finally i read thru ALL of you guys punya comment.
maybe agak lambat sikit for me to join in but heck, i love neo!
I always get negative comments from almost everyone i ask about neo.
They said the inside is small, overpriced, cheap interior materials, etc etc etc.
I couldnt agree more…
But heck! Someone said Neo is for a SELFISH person!
Ya thats rite!
I dun care about any other thing! If its only got 2 doors, i wont let my friends sit on the back! (in fact im thinking to remove the backseat and put 12inch woofer on the back).
Overpriced? Yeah but i dun care! I am so in love with the car! Just like when u spend that RM200++ for your favourite Nike shoes, for me its worth EVERY PENNY!
So what im saying now is, if you think the price is too high, dont buy it.
I hate ppl who whine all the time about the price is too high…
I learn from the previous generation…
If u cant own it, u don deserve it.
…Still saving some money for NEO CPS…
…Guess my viva would be the best for me now…
Well, i totally disagree with the "if u cant own it, u don deserve it" thingy which i think only applies to more up-market products like the merc and bmw etc, and not Proton in its current situation.
no offense but if a person with a mentality like that were in charge of proton i fink proton would probably not be around after a year or so anymore…
Proton needs to follow the customers, not the customers to follow Proton…
[quote comment="223998"]Well, i totally disagree with the "if u cant own it, u don deserve it" thingy which i think only applies to more up-market products like the merc and bmw etc, and not Proton in its current situation.
no offense but if a person with a mentality like that were in charge of proton i fink proton would probably not be around after a year or so anymore…
Proton needs to follow the customers, not the customers to follow Proton…[/quote]
totally agree on this! i may not have a bunch of money to own an evo, but i think those spoilt rich kid doesn't deserve to drive one if he knows nothing to maintain and mod that machine. what a waste. LOL.
[quote comment="218757"][quote comment="218633"]I am having a myvi rite now… Since neo Cps came out.. was thinking and interested to change to neo CPS.. would i get regret after changing to CPS? cause i am into a performance kinda guy~ lol… Some said myvi changing to neo is like kancil changing to kelisa.. No difference at all.. but make sense to me is that this neo engine get me interested on it.. Any opinions?[/quote]
well…all u need is "Test Drive" . Then u decide.[/quote]
go for it!! changing myvi to neo cps like changing wira to perdana v6 lol! myvi only 1.3 litre economical engine, campro cps built for performance!
normal Neo does not have IAFM, just plain campro
lets hope jeremy clarkson review on this car. and wonder what he will say on that lotus badge on the neos rear
and interest rate on bank just went up from 3.65 to 3.75 now with EWP.
im going to wait a couple of months b4 booking this new machine but wondering how im gonna put my existing sound system into it since its too small at the back even i plan to take out the spare tire n burry my amps in it.
maybe some custom fibre needs to be done ^^
hi guys, i've bought this neo cps and hav driven it for 3 days…
Still waiting for 1st service before i can fully test the power
interest rate was just 3.65 when i bought it…
and can say the performance is good thou CPS haven been activate…
[quote comment="219362"]aaaaaaaghhhhhhhhhh… i just felt sth wrong n called proton about the delivery of Neo CPS. my dealer confirmed again and they will delay the delivery for 3 months.all bcoz of Prority to Exora.arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! my tender no is end at this month..extended few times already. Fuck u EXORA![/quote]
Bro, never ever buy car from dealer.
I bought my Neo CPS directly from proton branch not dealer…
That is why i can get my car fast…they told me sometimes you will get your car late if buy from dealer because it's dealer who delay customer and not proton.
Some more i just paid RM 100 for deposit (Refundable some more) and not RM 500 as per dealer. From the first day i paid deposit till i get my NEO CPS is less than 3 weeks.
Trust me bro, go directly to Proton Edar and not Proton Edar Dealer..
well CPSLover, there is no point for the dealer to delay ur car, the sooner they sell u the car the faster they make profit n even the sales person get his/her commision. the thing is Proton Edar get stock earlier than dealer. imagine u r the dealer selling proton, would u hold a ready stock in ur yard n wait for it to rot instead of selling it to ur customer n earn the money? think carefully
Qkumba, what you said is true also. According to proton, dealer need to pay a lum sum of money to them or some sort like bank guarantee before they can collect stock from proton. Sometimes the dealer can delay delivery car to customer because they have yet enough money to pay proton to get the stock.
This is why, some dealers keep customer waiting for few months…
And according to proton, the RM 500 can be refundable to customer if the customer waited too long getting frustrated but normally the dealer wont do it because they wont cant gain any profit so they said cannot be refund. If thou can refund, it wont be in full amount.
i work in dealer n my company has loads of cash in bank. but often eder got no stock for us n make my customers wait. while themselves enjoy the unlimited ready stock…. n from my experience, proton always give us empty promise like the approx delivery time n they cant make it. even for the xchange programs now they sent us memo saying 2 to 4 working days for the xchange voucher n processing but 1 of my case has been pending from 18th march til now which is half a month already. but i heard some case in eder got the voucher in a week. n this morning i call them n they asked me to wait for another 10 days…. unbelievable…
n ya the rm 500 is refundable if the promise to customers cant be made.
anyway imma place my booking now n will enjoy the machine hopefully 2 months later. now still looking for ppl to buy my old wira ^^
wit dis price tag, id rather go for 1.8 civic liao, oops! i forgot im not in bolehland!! hahahaaha
fuyo…4 jam aku bca comment..dari mula sampai abih…. mmg prihatin la org malaysia…. jgn gaduh saje..kmukakan cdgn kt proton….pkeje proton yg tahu cost n tax pun beli proton jugk…… takkn diorg kurg cerdik nk beli brg yg mrk buat, tahu klemahan, tahu teknologi, yg ari2 diorg duk godek(pasang) tu…… tepuk dada tnya poket..bukan dada….makaceh sbb baca
It has been 2 months since the launch…and neo cps still havent seen on the road. I bet the total order would not exced more than 100. maybe not even close to 100…so whats the reason of this car is being delayed. if in next month they still cant deliver it, they automatically breach the promise by saying waiting period is 1-3 months..I may sue them if i have the chance to win..Paultan..whats ur comment on this?
nak murah TAPI nak cantik nak laju nak quality bagus nak performance nak itu nak ini..pegi beli besi sendiri pastu buat kete sendiri, meh nak tgk bagus ke tak..
support our local car la, at least ada improvement and i think this neo cps is one of malaysia drop dear gorgeous plus devilish car..love it !
i'm proud of msia automotive industry, good jobs guys!
correction : drop dead gorgeous
im the customer and i hv the right to voice out…i still support proton as long there's an improvement being done. ta called them and they gave reason..i dont know whether want to believe them or not..it maybe the other way around
I saw the brochure at funtasticko. Is it the blackout of B Pillar is last minute idea?
@topspeedloved
actually, i've already seen a few on the road. I'm getting mine this weekend as well.
I always regard Satria Neo and Gen 2 as some of the most beautiful affordable cars around.
All bros,
I've just finish service my Neo Cps today and test drive few round to activate the CPS. what i can say is quite powerful mechanism…thumbs up for proton!
On the other hand, i don't know any future owner will experience the problem that i having now in my neo cps. I've complain to Proton during service today but yet they still can't fix the bloody problem!! What the heck….
The problems are :
1. Weird sound coming out from meter if ur the driver when start the engine.
(Proton said engine mounting need to b replace, what the heck, this is new car and so fast mati??)
2. Some knocking sound came out from passenger side dashboard when accelarating. (Proton said air-con hose knocking on car body and they said fix it already but yet still got sound when i took my car, WTF)
3. Left hand side speaker pecah but they claim is door trim making sound, sigh….
4. Engage 3rd gear full throtle, engine jerk for 3 times!!! from 2k rpm to 3k rpm. (Proton said done by doing basic tuning, and yes its done but now change to 2nd gear jerking now!!!)
I don't know what else to said but to accept the fact this is Malaysian Car manufacture sure problem will exist even it's new car. Overall if my problem could be fix, this will be a nice car & powerful car to drive.
Quite dissapointed with them on the service…..said this fix that fix already, but end up them same problem still exist…HAIH!!
From CPSLover's comments, I gotta say Wow… i thought proton has improved a lot… this is really disappointing to hear… lousy services summore… my expectation for this Neo CPS was high due to the much higher price tag but now I'm having some doubts about getting this car now…
Proton personnels!!! are u here? are u listening to the customers complain?!
[quote comment="229994"]From CPSLover's comments, I gotta say Wow… i thought proton has improved a lot… this is really disappointing to hear… lousy services summore… my expectation for this Neo CPS was high due to the much higher price tag but now I'm having some doubts about getting this car now…
Proton personnels!!! are u here? are u listening to the customers complain?![/quote]
I have given up the idea of owning a satria neo cps..rather save more money and go for a city..=)
Huh…call proton i-care to complain today on the quality of the car….
Said pass my case to customer service officer to follow up….
Let's see what they can do
CPSLover, actually, i think after i get a job.. i planning to buy this car, after read your complained. I must ask you, it is worth to buy this car??
[quote comment="229761"]@topspeedloved
actually, i've already seen a few on the road. I'm getting mine this weekend as well.[/quote]
maybe what u see is the auto one..are yours manual or cps…by the person comment here.. i think proton may call them back..
hmmm after seeing his comment, im having doubt to proceed..hmmm….
hmm bcause of this lateness, i may switch to Suzuki Swift Sport…!!
[quote comment="230754"]CPSLover, actually, i think after i get a job.. i planning to buy this car, after read your complained. I must ask you, it is worth to buy this car??[/quote]
qayyum, to b frank actually it's a nice car to drive and got power too…
Too bad, poor service and quality of the car :(
as i said, if the problem i mentioned earlier didn't exist, it would b a perfect car…
Mine is the auto version.
bravoo proton
good job..i want more
Dear all bros,
Bad news again, today i tested my car on Kesas Hway and found out another major prob..
Right foot energy all migrate to throttle pedal, and surprise me 140km/h is the top speed!!!!
I really need to speak to Proton on this….sigh, give me so many problem
ohh my god… it is very bad news…..
ahhhh… so sad…..
Seriously? 140 kmh only? you're using manual or auto? I was about to book this car. scared..
Huh what a suprise..let see if all the owner of this Neo Cps have a same problem with you or not..If not u're the one who unlucky..If yes,Proton must take a quick move!!
salamander : i'm using a manual version…
yah, any neo cps owner here? Please voice out some comment….do you guys having the same problem?
i am still waiting for my car. Booked on 15th Feb but was told the production delayed due to Exora launch. Still I have not seen any Neo CPS on the road yet. What the hell Proton is doing?? considering writing in to the press to complain.
Has anyone here booked the car and still waiting for the car?
CPSLover..
are u sure it can run 140km/h only?..
what a shame..
if like that,the terrible viva also can makan ur neo cps ohhh..
or maybe proton silap tune to mph,not km/h..huhuhu..
140km/h=siap boleh isap rokok sambil drive lagi lorrr…
I should be getting mine tomorrow. Auto version though
Aboy : Yes, very sure 140km/h, myself also shock when i saw that…
Don't say Viva, 850cc kancil also can tapau me..
Bro Jon : Hope yours sihat come out from tanjung malim plant :)
Change of plans. Collecting on wednesday :(
I think I ill wait for another few month before deciding to purchase this car. Wanna see the feedback from other user first.
BTW Thanks CPSLover for the feedback.
salamander, good choice….see maybe other neo cps owner has the same problem or i'm the one being unlucky over here..
Well, nothing i can do now except wait for my Wed appoinment with Proton service HQ center. Let's see what they have to say about my problem then…
Keep you guys updated :)
salamnder, good choice…should wait for more comments. Any more neo cps owner here? please giv some comment…
Well there;s nothing i can do now except wait for y appointment with Proton HQ Service center on wednesday..
Will keep u guys update.
salamnder, good choice…should wait for more comments. Any more neo cps owner here? please giv some comment… Well there;s nothing i can do now except wait for y appointment with Proton HQ Service center on wednesday.. Will keep u guys update.
CPS lover, sorry to hear about that.Anything to do with being the 1st batch of the neo cps stock? I don't know la bro..i hope your case is an isolated one or else I would be very disappointed with Proton because I am very impressed by DBZ speech during the launching of Exora. He shows us his determination to move Proton forward,in terms of quality. I wonder if there are any problems related with Exora, esp the 1st batch stock? Anyway, hope you can get your problem fix asap and enjoy the ride!
Lavender, i guess should be 1st batch problem. Based on experience, every 1st batch car having from proton having problem.
What DBZ said on TV is impressing but as we know "talk less action more" is the best.
For Exora, as explain by DBZ from design till manufactured only took them 18months! For me, i think there will be problem since such a short time for them to produce the car….
Anyway, i hope really my car could be fix by HQ SC..
I’m thinkin of buying either Savvy AMT or Neo CPS (A) as my first car.. Anyone of you can give me some opinion or any info bout these two?
ahhhhhhhhhhhh i already wait for more than one month…. when can i get my car lah…. >< and i got a big question for who own cps is about the bodykits,when i 1st saw the cps at showroom front looks impress me… but when i go closer to the GTI fender…. i saw a rubber seal between the fender with the body and its from the front,through the skirting till the rear fender… and its turning yellowist OMG….thats horrible do u guys have that problems?for white cps?
Make it easy la.. Just plunk in the Petronas eo1 engine.. 2.0L/220bhp VVTL if proton not too arrogant to produce its own old's man engine.. Sure can smoke I-Vtec and turbos. I think it saves R&D costs. Surely this neo will sell like hot cakes..
Paul, how come so long the car has been release but still no proper test drive reviews yet?
hello everybody,
sounds scary on what cps lovers experienced on his car. i've booked mine almost 2 months now and until now no news when i will see my car. very frustrating…
Have you guys seen the cheap dashboard and interior? Even the new Saga's interior is better! For an asking price of 57k, they should have at least taken the effort to make a jazzier interior.
Not to say I am not a Proton fan; I've been driving a Satria 1.3 for 6 years and have been enjoying it, hence I've been waiting for the release of the Neo CPS. This is seriously a let down. Come on Proton!
[quote comment="230795"][quote comment="229761"]@topspeedloved
actually, i've already seen a few on the road. I'm getting mine this weekend as well.[/quote]
maybe what u see is the auto one..are yours manual or cps…by the person comment here.. i think proton may call them back..
hmmm after seeing his comment, im having doubt to proceed..hmmm….
hmm bcause of this lateness, i may switch to Suzuki Swift Sport…!![/quote]
TopSpeedLover, I'm placing a booking for a SSS today after lunch.
Got my car last Tuesday, so far I've found out that the left rear seat can't be put down, one remote car key is spoilt and the right rear seat belt is loose
Hi Jon, besides that, any other problems similar like mine like engine jerking or sounds coming out from dashboard?
None that i noticed. Just my SA lowered the pickup of the car. I think this causes the power to come in a second late when i floor the accelerator.
Guess you really need luck when buying a proton car :)…
Guess i don't have it…
Mine is only a few days old. I'll let you know if any new problem comes up before my first service.
[quote comment="233147"]Make it easy la.. Just plunk in the Petronas eo1 engine.. 2.0L/220bhp VVTL if proton not too arrogant to produce its own old's man engine.. Sure can smoke I-Vtec and turbos. I think it saves R&D costs. Surely this neo will sell like hot cakes..[/quote]
Hi my friend. Do you know how much is the Petronas E01 engine cost? its 17k versus the CPS Engine below 4k.. And the Petronas engine is not tested for mass production and the spare parts is really expensive as it is made overseas. No pun intended but just to keep things straight. Thanks and have a good day
its got the same spirits as my evo10 wey.nice job PROTON,….just ignore other -ve cmment.they know nothing.am i right?
Hi Jon, when did you book your car. I booked mine in mid Feb, now my sales rep tells me the waiting period is 3 months! Still no news of my car. Thinking of cancelling the booking and get my deposit back. Very frustrating with Proton! Their service is so shitty!
[quote comment="235167"]Hi Jon, when did you book your car. I booked mine in mid Feb, now my sales rep tells me the waiting period is 3 months! Still no news of my car. Thinking of cancelling the booking and get my deposit back. Very frustrating with Proton! Their service is so shitty![/quote]
im getting mine soon..just that they release the auto first..dont know why. but the lateness is clearly bcoz of exora. cause after exora…u start see more neo cps on the road already..just be patient if u can wait. or else get a normal swift of RM73k for 1.5? up to u
hey guys, if I order a neo sometime next week, when will I get it? I heard it takes some time for them to deliver to us.
obviously,this neo cps is overshadowed by the elder GTi. top speed for 140km/h? r u kiddin'? even my kapcai can reach that. if this car reviewed in top gear u.k, i'm sure its gonna be the second car smashed by jeremy clarkson after our own cute kelisa has been. come on proton, make a better car plz..with a little bodykit modification still doesn't want to get my eyes to it. stick to the engine developement la…make it turbocharged 1.8L DOHC CPS.hahahahaha…..
i get mine after 1 n half month waiting, white color n manual..manage tu pull out power till 180km/h.mayb can go more i think…too scared to lenjan more coz car still new :p
u need to understand that cps functioning if u rev till 4200rpm..
to achieve the top speed u need to change the gear correctly without wasting the rpm drop too much.(i hope u all understand, not so good wit car term hehe)
but be prepared coz the suspension a bit hard..overall im satisfied wit the amount i hv to pay for this car :)
p/s: ~drive slow better, let others enjoy watching ur nice car :P
Tipulah neo cps top speed only 140 km/h. Totally waisting time reading his "CPSlover" comment.
aduh…so scare la when reading this comment, i booked mine on 26 march n till now no news. wtf r proton monkeying around. huh…very2 shit…when the f@%k i can get my car. sampai2 trus ada problem, memang jadi anti proton la aku nanti..
To CPSLover
what do mean by this?
"and can say the performance is good thou CPS haven been activate…" and "I’ve just finish service my Neo Cps today and test drive few round to activate the CPS. what i can say is quite powerful mechanism…thumbs up for proton!"
u sound like the cps was not activate when u 1st got ur car? mean like we have to go for 1st time servicing for unlocking the cps power. doesn't it oredy have the cps power when u bought it in the 1st place. kindly please explain it to me, hopefully i can get my neo cps soon.
My CPS has been downtuned to reduce pickup according to my SA. He says he will restore it after the first or second service.
My mechanic told me of the new engine rule of thumb. Never go beyond 110km/hr before hitting the first 1,000km.
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics… Even if you win, you're still a retard.
So basicly you guys are saying that the Neo CPS is downtune by default before the 1 service interval? so that the engine can break-in normally without abusing it in early stages?
CPSLover can verify this? when you say you Neo can only achieve 140kmh is it before or after the 1000kn 1st service interval since it might solve the mystery.
Cheers
Actual modern engines nowadays do not need a run in period. Run in period only applies for car in the 80's.
CPSLover said,
April 17, 2009 @ 10:29 pm · Reply with quote
Dear all bros,
Bad news again, today i tested my car on Kesas Hway and found out another major prob..
Right foot energy all migrate to throttle pedal, and surprise me 140km/h is the top speed!!!!
I really need to speak to Proton on this….sigh, give me so many problem
i think my problem also similar with you..
i push my pedal until it touch d floor..
guess what?..
my car cannot go beyond 160km/h..
here's the story:
last few days, i take my car to highway at night, i drive around 150km/h-160km.. suddenly, a car overtake me.. at first, i thought it was an international car (such as bmw, Mercedes, toyota, or honda etc)…
when i realize, i shouted..
"WHAT?? SAVVY??"…..
omg.. shame on me..
i cannot catch up with the savvy tat nite…
so sad :(
i dun know wat the actual problem of the neo cps engine… :(
[quote comment="235721"]Actual modern engines nowadays do not need a run in period. Run in period only applies for car in the 80's.[/quote]
Any proof to back-up those statement?
good day all bros..
i'm in such delima…my neo cps havn't arrive yet coz not yet finish according to my SA, maybe proton don have the wheel nuts in stock, f@#k. all my loan oredy approve and i paid 500 for booking. im considering to change it to old neo? is it possible to do such change? coz what've i read here, its looks like neo cps is very that not good as what they brag..some shit head n f@#k face shit break grandmother f#@ker shit holes n etc….even savvy can bagi asap….cis…kuat f@#k.. top speed 140? shit…i don need the speed actually but 140? wtf?..proton shit on their own pants..arrrgggghhhhhhhhh….im f@#king angry…good bros…please help me…tq.
[quote comment="235277"]Tipulah neo cps top speed only 140 km/h. Totally waisting time reading his "CPSlover" comment.[/quote]
Do u have one? Get one then only start critize other ppl coment this forum dude….
Dalam forum/internet semua org boleh tulis macam2, tak percayalah aku neo CPS boleh lari 140-160 km/h only.
Tipulah semua ni..
[quote comment="235704"]So basicly you guys are saying that the Neo CPS is downtune by default before the 1 service interval? so that the engine can break-in normally without abusing it in early stages?
CPSLover can verify this? when you say you Neo can only achieve 140kmh is it before or after the 1000kn 1st service interval since it might solve the mystery.
Cheers[/quote]
It's after 1000km…..before tht, i nvr rev my engine to top speed…only do it after 1st service
[quote comment="235820"][quote comment="235277"]Tipulah neo cps top speed only 140 km/h. Totally waisting time reading his "CPSlover" comment.[/quote]
Do u have one? Get one then only start critize other ppl coment this forum dude….[/quote]
I also don't believe that u have one.
u guys sure savvy can overtake u? hmm thats weird, just now i just drive 180km/h at KESAS highway..but u need to rev above 5000rpm at all gear~huh
at the same time ur fuel also accelerating down :P, eventhough the indicator only show 7.0L/100km….
ahhh cpos lover tipu la..show me tht u really own neo cps. come give me ur fb add or friendster. im getting mine this week. and i will post it in my profile. my saga(1.3l) can do 200kmh in kl putrajaya highway. i will try to do around 230kmh wth my neo cps. stay tuned…i will post once i have it and i will write a review on it. i sense tht maybe cps lover is actually a perodua salesman..kan? kan?hahahaha
[quote comment="208966"]Fucking expensive la![/quote]
Tak mampu beli memang cakap mcm nie…..
[quote comment="235855"]
at the same time ur fuel also accelerating down :P, eventhough the indicator only show 7.0L/100km….[/quote]
tip:
if the fuel consumption meter is indeed the same as gen2,
then u have to reset it first before driving.
the measurement l/100km will be valid.
if not reset, the value stated is invalid.
heiii i got mine already today. but ya gud power.but ya la only up to 160. why a? maybe bcoz belum running lagi. tunggu 500km or 1000 ke. but i love the handling la slightly better than normal neo!!!! :D
[quote comment="236285"]heiii i got mine already today. but ya gud power.but ya la only up to 160. why a? maybe bcoz belum running lagi. tunggu 500km or 1000 ke. but i love the handling la slightly better than normal neo!!!! :D[/quote]
hahaha, first day already tried the top speed.
belai2 lah sikit dulu. make sure the engine masak dulu.
[quote comment="236288"][quote comment="236285"][/quote]
hahaha, first day already tried the top speed.
belai2 lah sikit dulu. make sure the engine masak dulu.[/quote]
haha well sumtimes kene ajar the engine. nanti tak boleh sampai top speed. alahh come on.. when the proton test drive the new car, im sure dia dah rembat tgk ok ke tak. well after this i bawa slow je la.. untul 1000km :)
Welcome to the club topspeedlover!
By the way, wat color is ur car? white?
[quote comment="236335"][quote comment="236288"][quote comment="236285"][/quote]
hahaha, first day already tried the top speed.
belai2 lah sikit dulu. make sure the engine masak dulu.[/quote]
haha well sumtimes kene ajar the engine. nanti tak boleh sampai top speed. alahh come on.. when the proton test drive the new car, im sure dia dah rembat tgk ok ke tak. well after this i bawa slow je la.. untul 1000km :)[/quote]
I'm not sure how Proton test the car in the factory before delivery but I guess at least they will rammed it up to maximum RPM for a few minutes.
I think I will wait for the second batch of the car before booking (And waiting for WTF plate no as well) As for the top speed problem is it being sorted out after the your service?
hmm okey
i'm really2 like the new one satria neo
because the car gift people in malaysian make dream come true
aslo the value is okay and good handling
well done proton
I'm getting a Swift Sport. Meanwhile, you guys carry on paying for a low quality hatchback at premium prices.
[quote comment="236653"]I'm getting a Swift Sport. Meanwhile, you guys carry on paying for a low quality hatchback at premium prices.[/quote]
Good for you. And Japanese people will say to u "arigato go zai mas ta" (thank you very much) for contributing your money.
And also our beloved country will also gain 30% of that amount for tax.
Well done.
[quote comment="236653"]I'm getting a Swift Sport. Meanwhile, you guys carry on paying for a low quality hatchback at premium prices.[/quote]
Ive driven both Swift Sport Manual and Neo CPS. In terms of handling. I prefer NeoCPS over the Swift. But Swift has better engine and clutch.
[quote comment="236653"]I'm getting a Swift Sport. Meanwhile, you guys carry on paying for a low quality hatchback at premium prices.[/quote]
low quality? heyy people like u must be nobody in Malaysia. At least proton has developed their own engine…my friend test drive my neo cps just now as he said tht it is awesome. he own swift. u can say now low quality but let me out run u in highway and u will feel the 40k thousand different of price is not worth a penny! cehhh cakap mcm dah kaya sangat blah la… duit dalam bank tah2 tak sampai 40k pun..i paid cash ok. ceh!~
[quote comment="236427"]Welcome to the club topspeedlover!
By the way, wat color is ur car? white?[/quote]
mine is white.. urs?
[quote comment="236848"]
low quality? heyy people like u must be nobody in Malaysia. At least proton has developed their own engine…my friend test drive my neo cps just now as he said tht it is awesome. he own swift. u can say now low quality but let me out run u in highway and u will feel the 40k thousand different of price is not worth a penny! cehhh cakap mcm dah kaya sangat blah la… duit dalam bank tah2 tak sampai 40k pun..i paid cash ok. ceh!~[/quote]
Haha. Comparing a hothatch (Swift Sport) with a Neo CPS. You need to be schooled son!
swift sport a hothatch ? lolx,,,,not even close maa hahahahahahahahahaha
A bit out of topic. Suzuki Swift Engine need to use High Octane Fuel RON98 and above since they use high comprassion ratio for the fuel. The original engine is design to use RON100 in Japan.
For those who plan to purchase them, you might have to pay extra when the new RON95 fuel that is going to be introduced soon to overcome the fuel price hike due to the economic recovering.
And 40K difference is a lot for Suzuki Swift Sport compared to Neo CPS. The quality build for both is on par. IMO better use the extra money to invest or buy a house.
To back up my previous statement.
[quote]SMA’s CEO, Bastamam Hamzah, said that the Suzuki engineers were concerned about the fuel quality in Malaysia because the engine runs on a very high compression ratio of 11:1. Confident that this would not be an issue, he began a long-term test on Malaysian fuel since the middle of 2006 to prove the point.
“Each day, we were putting in a few hundred kilometres on our testcar and there were no problems running on the RON97 petrol that is sold in Malaysia,” Encik Bastamam said. [/quote]
http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/article_1005/page_m.asp
http://www.suzuki.net.my/models/Swiftsport_specs.aspx
[quote comment="236952"]swift sport a hothatch ? lolx,,,,not even close maa hahahahahahahahahaha[/quote]
Read > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_hatch
[quote comment="236952"]swift sport a hothatch ? lolx,,,,not even close maa hahahahahahahahahaha[/quote]
yes Metarlid…u r wth me..high 5! haha.. hello cash… u listen here… swift sport are for pussy! they designed to save fuel. that s why swift sport lose 2nm compared to neo cps.. swift torque is 148nm while neo is 150nm…Jazz,Swift,Vios..they are not a racing car.. they designed to save fuel. anyway..no point of arguing. im sure u choose swift sport not normal swift because u want a little bit of power. but im telling, u will feel not worth a penny when a cheaper can outrun u jz like tht in the highway. same as Evo, caldina, Subaru being outrun by Gti Evo/Mivec~ cauuuuuuuu…
[quote comment="236653"]I'm getting a Swift Sport. Meanwhile, you guys carry on paying for a low quality hatchback at premium prices.[/quote]
low quality or not never ever come from your judgment, coz you have no rights. u just cant compare whatever car people are driving, if u try to compare that your Swift Sport is a class above Neo CPS.. i'm sure others will come to u and said something similar, coz there are much much car out there which is better than your upcoming SSS.. be humble my friend.. even people who drive a kancil deserve respect too..
I go showroom view dis car with my fren. really looks impressive and nice to me. no test drive done yet. I think better take this car than take other import cars. ur 30% of purchase price is going to teh government. furthermore car is an ever depreciating asset.
[quote comment="237018"][quote comment="236952"]swift sport a hothatch ? lolx,,,,not even close maa hahahahahahahahahaha[/quote]
yes Metarlid…u r wth me..high 5! haha.. hello cash… u listen here… swift sport are for pussy! they designed to save fuel. that s why swift sport lose 2nm compared to neo cps.. swift torque is 148nm while neo is 150nm…Jazz,Swift,Vios..they are not a racing car.. they designed to save fuel. anyway..no point of arguing. im sure u choose swift sport not normal swift because u want a little bit of power. but im telling, u will feel not worth a penny when a cheaper can outrun u jz like tht in the highway. same as Evo, caldina, Subaru being outrun by Gti Evo/Mivec~ cauuuuuuuu…[/quote]
To each his own; I was just commenting on the lousy & cheap plastic look of the interior but that has brought out the Proton fanboys out. Enjoy paying towards protectionism while the world passes us by.
To each his own; I was just commenting on the lousy & cheap plastic look of the interior but that has brought out the Proton fanboys out. Enjoy paying towards protectionism while the world passes us by.[/quote
protectionism? well maybe they are for proton..but at the same time the tax is to prevent the money going out too much to outside. imagine wth the tax people still buy the 1million car. imagine there's no tax..money will go out tremendeously where people buying imported cars. at least proton has developed it's 'vtech' engine. Korean also just developed their Vtech engine. so what? we are still not too far behind. Don just talk la…haishhh…dont talk about the world passesd us by..what do u contribute to the country hah?
TopSpeedlover said,
May 10, 2009 @ 2:06 pm · Reply with quote
To each his own; I was just commenting on the lousy & cheap plastic look of the interior but that has brought out the Proton fanboys out. Enjoy paying towards protectionism while the world passes us by.[/quote
protectionism? well maybe they are for proton..but at the same time the tax is to prevent the money going out too much to outside. imagine wth the tax people still buy the 1million car. imagine there’s no tax..money will go out tremendeously where people buying imported cars. at least proton has developed it’s ‘vtech’ engine. Korean also just developed their Vtech engine. so what? we are still not too far behind. Don just talk la…haishhh…dont talk about the world passesd us by..what do u contribute to the country hah?
he contributed his stupidness…
aiyo..like this also want to argue? well, my 2 cent is of coz we need pay for our car tax, not too much lah…or else a lot of cars we can see only and not able to afford mah..
if Proton able to come up with quality that match its competitors, i think consumers would have more confident lor..e.g. Exora not bad leh…a lot of its stuff is better than imported mpv wat..
we are not brainless & blind consumers, we would figure ourselves out..
if u want to talk about swift,go to swift forum please…
dont need such of ppl who only know to criticise their own country and jilat other country..
P/S:Sayang Neo Merah Saye….
Bookes : 7 February 2009
Delivery : Sampai skng xdpt2 lg..
Location : Panca Melati Auto Sdn Bhd
No.24 Jalan Kristal J7/7 Seksyen 7 Shah Alam
Action : Shud i just cancel d booking?or shud i burn d building first n den d booking
will automatically cancel..anyone?
i think d SA shithead shud b push with weapon la..machete ke grenade ke..
a few days back he called me n told theres a black available,but i dun wan it la,kn i order white u shithead..n
i asked him wheter is there any1 b4 me got d white,n dgn selamber die ckp ade dah dpt..
f*ck u..im d first 2 book there la,at dat tym i only need 2 pay 100 je..can u imagine how early dat booking was made..??
n howf*ckincome theres other gettin b4 me??
xkan x bg rasuah dpt lmbt??
xkn mkn duet haram je keje korg?
sorry la really get on my nerve la..
mybe i nk cancel je,
den book 4 HONDA..
EX5..
huhu..
take a look at this http://paultan.org/archives/2009/05/14/can-proton…
Proton’s powertrain department have tested all of their engines including the Mitsubishi models and have stated that all Proton cars can run on RON95, despite what they’ve stated in their manuals (why???). This includes the old carburetor cars, the Renault engines, and the new' Campro CPS engine'.
Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/05/14/can-proton…
DAmn..i just thought that Campro CPS could excape from using RON97..but no…same like swift sport.. is this confirmed already Paul?
To h8waiting,
u know wat…
in your case, bagus u bakar saja panca melati auto tu…
mine oso very long to wait n i cancel it, so i change to old neo using the same loan.
jadi my loan kira full loan dah. but if u change to old neo, u'll get m-line. huhuhu…h-line only for cps. the vim n cps tech can be install later on if u want, that what proton said la. i read it somewhere la…forgot oredy.
cos i love neo so much, i change to old one la. plus if u read the comment, even savvy can bagi u makan asap. better u wait for 2nd batch if u really want it.
if not, honda ex5 ok wat..hehehehe..peace out.
saving $ for this baby..
[quote comment="238436"]Bookes : 7 February 2009
Delivery : Sampai skng xdpt2 lg..
Location : Panca Melati Auto Sdn Bhd
No.24 Jalan Kristal J7/7 Seksyen 7 Shah Alam
Action : Shud i just cancel d booking?or shud i burn d building first n den d booking
will automatically cancel..anyone?
i think d SA shithead shud b push with weapon la..machete ke grenade ke..
a few days back he called me n told theres a black available,but i dun wan it la,kn i order white u shithead..n
i asked him wheter is there any1 b4 me got d white,n dgn selamber die ckp ade dah dpt..
f*ck u..im d first 2 book there la,at dat tym i only need 2 pay 100 je..can u imagine how early dat booking was made..??
n howf*ckincome theres other gettin b4 me??
xkan x bg rasuah dpt lmbt??
xkn mkn duet haram je keje korg?
sorry la really get on my nerve la..
mybe i nk cancel je,
den book 4 HONDA..
EX5..
huhu..[/quote]
JANGAN BAKAR PANCA MELATI OIII..
NANTI AKU NAK MEN SNUKER KAT Z SNUKER ATAS TU X BOLEH WOIII…
NAK BAKAR BAGI NGAM2 PANCA MELATI JE TERBAKAR..HAHA..
p/s:umah aku blakang tu je,kalo tbakar leh aku masuk berita..haha..
[quote comment="238436"]Bookes : 7 February 2009
Delivery : Sampai skng xdpt2 lg..
Location : Panca Melati Auto Sdn Bhd
No.24 Jalan Kristal J7/7 Seksyen 7 Shah Alam
Action : Shud i just cancel d booking?or shud i burn d building first n den d booking
will automatically cancel..anyone?
i think d SA shithead shud b push with weapon la..machete ke grenade ke..
a few days back he called me n told theres a black available,but i dun wan it la,kn i order white u shithead..n
i asked him wheter is there any1 b4 me got d white,n dgn selamber die ckp ade dah dpt..
f*ck u..im d first 2 book there la,at dat tym i only need 2 pay 100 je..can u imagine how early dat booking was made..??
n howf*ckincome theres other gettin b4 me??
xkan x bg rasuah dpt lmbt??
xkn mkn duet haram je keje korg?
sorry la really get on my nerve la..
mybe i nk cancel je,
den book 4 HONDA..
EX5..
huhu..[/quote]
i booked my car 5th February. I paid cash. i got it one week plus already. but seriously worth waiting. i was also got mad cause of their lateness.just be patient if u could..
Serious? CPS and VIM tech can install later into the older Neo?
Can anyone confirm this? cuz I'm looking at the Neo CPS mainly for its better engine… but short of cash of course… hmm…
to kobealex
u can read it here..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campro_engine
i booked mine on 28 april..
still waiting till..i read comments here..ermm give little nerve..on the negative comment..
but for me u should thinks wise in everything u want..
for me i like the looks and engine…and i am proud to say i 100% support Malaysia production..y u want to compare dis car with something like japan tech or US tech…i had work for dis production of car..in quality department..so i think i made a wise choice for my ever 1st car..
Almost Proton salespersons product knowledge is rubbish. I feel that’s rather embarrassing!!! they juz know prices and loan only, bila tanya apa extra kete model proton? dia orang kondem model kerata lain pulak! Apa ni woi!!..as cust sy tgk ini mentaliti sudah problem ,ini orang x layak jual kereta, bagi buruk nama PROTON sahaja..sedia ada problem mahu tingkat tahap kualiti produk tapi kualiti salespersons WORST!!
Seriously speaking, is this car problematic? i see so many complain, scared to buy leh, i wanted to by SS sport but expensive, can save about 30k if i buy this neo CPS, any expert advise? thanks!
so far no problem. what i quiry is my top speed is 180 to 190km. my opinion is i think the spoiler is over downforce. but talking about stability, it is so stable at 180 and 190km. i want to try after thiis to plug out the spoiler and c the top speed. my friend said his fren changed the crank pulley, can go to 220km already. come on. u buy swift sport. wth tht 40k different u can mod the neo better than the swif sport. weakness is the tyre look small compared as the bodykit is wide. what u can do is change wider tyre. come on, compare to SS, the 3k is nothing compared to 40k different. if u plan to get married and have kids soon then dont but the neo la. buy la the SS
so far no problem.full tank of Rm70 can go 400km++ wth driving 140-160 on hughway. what i quiry is my top speed is 180 to 190km. my opinion is i think the spoiler is over downforce. but talking about stability, it is so stable at 180 and 190km. what;s the result? from a famosa to kl toll sungai besi (at 3.am less car) i can reach there in half n hour sharp. it handles corner very well n stable.i want to try after thiis to plug out the spoiler and c the top speed. my friend said his fren changed the crank pulley, can go to 220km already. come on. u buy swift sport. wth tht 40k different u can mod the neo better than the swif sport. weakness is the tyre look small compared as the bodykit is wide. what u can do is change wider tyre. come on, compare to SS, the 3k is nothing compared to 40k different. if u plan to get married and have kids soon then dont but the neo la. buy la the SS
Please make it 4 doors please…!!!!!! Dear proton workers, please ask your boss..!!
We need for doors Satria..:D
hmmm… still no full test drive review on this car? o.O
I'm like juz newbie…so i may be thx if somebody expert can teach me how to manage and use this car in good condition…how to make this car topspeed in term of drive skill..tq
I booked this car 2/6 last week, and the salesman said, my car will be ready in a month time.. is it possible?? hope the salesman are rite.. amin
Saw one running on fast lane high speed nearing Seremban today coming up from Melaka heading towards KL. White colour using Test number plate. Thought it is a new Satria Gti, so gave it a chase.
Proton guy must be testing a variant of the car as it was travelling at about 160, most of the way, before I decide not to waste petrol. Looks stable.
if i am not mistaken, since i have never qctually seen the CPS system in the flesh, on picture it shows that the CPS system is only on the intake????
tension…i booked my car at early march,and i wait until now still no news from the dealer…i asked that dealer to comfirm the delivery time but turns up a word "dunno","cannot comfirm"…and i asked y,the answer also same"dunno"…wtf…the dealer aid he already call the proton,the proton can't give him an answer…!@#@$%#$^@#%^@…wat an "excellent" service provided by proton…
Indeed, waiting period need at least 3-4months … -_-"
[quote comment="243762"]I booked this car 2/6 last week, and the salesman said, my car will be ready in a month time.. is it possible?? hope the salesman are rite.. amin[/quote]
I think if it's a black color..should be possible..