Comments on: Sabah government dumps Perdana for Volvos! http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:11:59 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: fickybabe http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-213693 fickybabe Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:36:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-213693 dump perdana for volvo? what the.....? dump perdana for waja la.. that one is better =P low maintenance and at least no toooooo show off. haiyoo... who spend most of the government money if not the government itself for their own sake. not for the people. no need to have official car la. use their own mercs and blablablabla. or take a cab la. that is what we call pemimpin berjiwa rakyat =) dump perdana for volvo? what the…..? dump perdana for waja la.. that one is better =P low maintenance and at least no toooooo show off. haiyoo… who spend most of the government money if not the government itself for their own sake. not for the people. no need to have official car la. use their own mercs and blablablabla. or take a cab la. that is what we call pemimpin berjiwa rakyat =)

]]> By: Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water. http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-213091 Sex is wonderful, but it's like champagne.If you're forced to have four glasses at every meal you start to fantasize about water. Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:00:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-213091 very good move very good move

]]> By: cicak http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-213070 cicak Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:39:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-213070 The poorest state in Malaysia, with a bloodsucking CM, I'm not surprised. Yes, Sabah is should be the richest state (looking at its resources) but it is not right now. (I wonder where the money is going to?) Heck, many people here at my area (the so called Pedalaman) are still dining on 'ubi kayu'. So why our ministers are spending the rakyat's money to buy luxury cars when they can travel with that already luxury Ninja Kings? Are those Ninja Kings sissies in the KK area? Those ppl are not interested of serving their rakyats anyway. Baru mau ada election di Pensiangan, baru mau datang 'turun padang'. Shame on you! Ahh, I wonder what will happen tomorrow. BolehLand politics always amuse me The poorest state in Malaysia, with a bloodsucking CM, I’m not surprised. Yes, Sabah is should be the richest state (looking at its resources) but it is not right now. (I wonder where the money is going to?) Heck, many people here at my area (the so called Pedalaman) are still dining on ‘ubi kayu’.

So why our ministers are spending the rakyat’s money to buy luxury cars when they can travel with that already luxury Ninja Kings? Are those Ninja Kings sissies in the KK area?

Those ppl are not interested of serving their rakyats anyway. Baru mau ada election di Pensiangan, baru mau datang ‘turun padang’. Shame on you!

Ahh, I wonder what will happen tomorrow. BolehLand politics always amuse me

]]> By: YennaDey http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212772 YennaDey Sat, 21 Feb 2009 04:32:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212772 I hate to say this but the way Jomo put his words is like no one is better than him. Sabah, Malacca, Kelantan, we are all Malaysian mate! 'I'm Sabahan I knew better than most of you'. C'mon.. have some humility if you really want to emphasis your view. So eccentric selfish SOB Back to Volvo, yeah right... Another joke, another drama minggu ini... I hate to say this but the way Jomo put his words is like no one is better than him. Sabah, Malacca, Kelantan, we are all Malaysian mate! ‘I’m Sabahan I knew better than most of you’. C’mon.. have some humility if you really want to emphasis your view. So eccentric selfish SOB

Back to Volvo, yeah right… Another joke, another drama minggu ini…

]]> By: Ralliace http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212698 Ralliace Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:07:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212698 We have crappy roads, hence we buy luxury cars! Hahahahaha. Same la! All for their own interest. Hey Jomo (you naive SOB), I have so many questions to ask you BUT I'll leave you with this one for now "if Sabah people are so rich then why is the state still poor like you said it??" Please explain as you think none of us here have ever been to Sabah, let alone to school! Please come to West Malaysia, get out of Sabah for once in your life and see things for yourself. You guys in Sabah are not too bad in life. Perhaps travelling will help you from being a katak di bawah tempurung. We have crappy roads, hence we buy luxury cars! Hahahahaha. Same la! All for their own interest.

Hey Jomo (you naive SOB), I have so many questions to ask you BUT I’ll leave you with this one for now “if Sabah people are so rich then why is the state still poor like you said it??” Please explain as you think none of us here have ever been to Sabah, let alone to school!

Please come to West Malaysia, get out of Sabah for once in your life and see things for yourself. You guys in Sabah are not too bad in life. Perhaps travelling will help you from being a katak di bawah tempurung.

]]> By: Jomo http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212696 Jomo Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:05:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212696 [quote comment="212417"]Different cars for different purposes. Car for city, car for pedalaman. Pedalaman cars too big for city. Use Volvo for city. Midsize SUV cannot use for both purpose ah? Too cheap? Low class for ministers to use? It's not the issue of how much money you have or whether Volvo is not considered luxury. What would the people in Peninsula think. On the Peninsula, S80 is luxury. And Sabah is part of Malaysia. No autonomy. If we think it's expensive, then it's expensive. No excuses.[/quote] what a joke, you are saying that if the people in peninsular got problems, then we also must get the exact same problems? only because we are in the same country? What a joke you are. [quote comment="212417"]Different cars for different purposes. Car for city, car for pedalaman. Pedalaman cars too big for city. Use Volvo for city. Midsize SUV cannot use for both purpose ah? Too cheap? Low class for ministers to use?

It’s not the issue of how much money you have or whether Volvo is not considered luxury. What would the people in Peninsula think. On the Peninsula, S80 is luxury. And Sabah is part of Malaysia. No autonomy. If we think it’s expensive, then it’s expensive. No excuses.[/quote]

what a joke, you are saying that if the people in peninsular got problems, then we also must get the exact same problems? only because we are in the same country? What a joke you are.

]]> By: Jomo http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212694 Jomo Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:00:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212694 [quote comment="212690"]Jomo, are you a Volvo salesman at Angkatan hebat?[/quote] I'm not a salesman or working with Angkatan Hebat. Nothing can relate me with Angkatan Hebat, but I really know the situation in this state, because I really care about this state. I'm just a very concern Sabahan. [quote comment="212690"]Jomo, are you a Volvo salesman at Angkatan hebat?[/quote]

I’m not a salesman or working with Angkatan Hebat. Nothing can relate me with Angkatan Hebat, but I really know the situation in this state, because I really care about this state. I’m just a very concern Sabahan.

]]> By: RX-ate http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212693 RX-ate Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:51:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212693 Prime Minister of Australia only rides on a Holden, their national car. If there's no need for him to ride on European luxury cars, I dont see any reason why there's a need for local YB's to ride o Euro luxury cars istead of our locally made Protons and Peroduas. Prime Minister of Australia only rides on a Holden, their national car. If there’s no need for him to ride on European luxury cars, I dont see any reason why there’s a need for local YB’s to ride o Euro luxury cars istead of our locally made Protons and Peroduas.

]]> By: RX-ate http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212690 RX-ate Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:41:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212690 Jomo, are you a Volvo salesman at Angkatan hebat? Jomo, are you a Volvo salesman at Angkatan hebat?

]]> By: RX-ate http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212686 RX-ate Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:38:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212686 To solve the G' problem, I think they should get two cars for the ministers. First, they should get our proudly Malaysian made Perodua Kembara to tackle the rough terrain. Second, they should get a Proton Savvy for city use, since the traffic is quite congested these days, it might come handy in traffic jams. And moreover, it saves fuel. Govn servants are there to serve the ppl, and not the other way round. To solve the G’ problem, I think they should get two cars for the ministers. First, they should get our proudly Malaysian made Perodua Kembara to tackle the rough terrain.
Second, they should get a Proton Savvy for city use, since the traffic is quite congested these days, it might come handy in traffic jams. And moreover, it saves fuel.

Govn servants are there to serve the ppl, and not the other way round.

]]> By: mervynv http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212685 mervynv Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:34:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212685 Jomo, what is your profession? Jomo, what is your profession?

]]> By: kickurs http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212579 kickurs Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:23:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212579 greed with s60t, normal car should work well for travel between towns in Sabah nowadays. road condition has improved. Now most major roads are tarmac, no more gravel road. Few new alternative roads are available now. However, to travel in the interior area will definitely need a 4WD. if someone really live at outskirt of KK, he will sure agree with me there are a lot of hardcore poor people. but at the same times there are a lot of rich people/landowner in Sabah. Come to sabah to experience the living here. there are a lot of difference compare to peninsular. Having adequate basic facilities/infrastructures is really a blessed in Sabah. greed with s60t, normal car should work well for travel between towns in Sabah nowadays. road condition has improved. Now most major roads are tarmac, no more gravel road. Few new alternative roads are available now. However, to travel in the interior area will definitely need a 4WD.

if someone really live at outskirt of KK, he will sure agree with me there are a lot of hardcore poor people. but at the same times there are a lot of rich people/landowner in Sabah.

Come to sabah to experience the living here. there are a lot of difference compare to peninsular. Having adequate basic facilities/infrastructures is really a blessed in Sabah.

]]> By: 7213209 http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212466 7213209 Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:09:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212466 If this is true then lets wait what our government comment's on this news. Pi mai pi mai tang tu gak la...Opps paul, later might be political debates pulak. Anyway, at least good 'pressure' to Proton to improve further. If this is true then lets wait what our government comment’s on this news. Pi mai pi mai tang tu gak la…Opps paul, later might be political debates pulak. Anyway, at least good ‘pressure’ to Proton to improve further.

]]> By: s60t http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212459 s60t Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:48:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212459 as a double volvo owner(S40 and S60),I can vouch that it is NOT cheap to maintain.I was quouted >30K for a gearbox in an 8 year old S60 which has only done 101000km and is used as a 3rd car. as for Sabah roads,I worked in Kota Belud for 3 years in the 90's and used a proton saga aeroback 1987 model.you can get to most of the towns w/o a 4WD but if you need to go to inland areas than a landcruiser would be needed.I don't see the need to the S80 except to spend taxpayers money.Even the XC90 is more of a luxury item.An Xtrail or fortuner probably has better off road capabilities than the XC90. it's always fun to spend money that's not your own but enjoy the fruits as a double volvo owner(S40 and S60),I can vouch that it is NOT cheap to maintain.I was quouted >30K for a gearbox in an 8 year old S60 which has only done 101000km and is used as a 3rd car.

as for Sabah roads,I worked in Kota Belud for 3 years in the 90’s and used a proton saga aeroback 1987 model.you can get to most of the towns w/o a 4WD but if you need to go to inland areas than a landcruiser would be needed.I don’t see the need to the S80 except to spend taxpayers money.Even the XC90 is more of a luxury item.An Xtrail or fortuner probably has better off road capabilities than the XC90.

it’s always fun to spend money that’s not your own but enjoy the fruits

]]> By: mystvearn http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212432 mystvearn Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:24:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212432 The XC90 makes a better choice than a S80. If I were to choose la. Sarawak CM dirving bullet proof white car. Was it maybach or RR? That car alone is RM2.5mil I think. Proton wake up! Perdana long overdue. Don't wait until all states change car than only come out with Perdana version 2.0. You cannot blame state governments to change their car. Can only blame proton for what they offer. Which is internally bigger? Current Honda civic, Altis or Perdana? People want to buy, but then no executive car to buy than V6 which internally looks the same as non-V6 available since 1994. Next in line to change cars:Ministries in malaysia and Public Universities The XC90 makes a better choice than a S80. If I were to choose la. Sarawak CM dirving bullet proof white car. Was it maybach or RR? That car alone is RM2.5mil I think.

Proton wake up! Perdana long overdue. Don’t wait until all states change car than only come out with Perdana version 2.0. You cannot blame state governments to change their car. Can only blame proton for what they offer. Which is internally bigger? Current Honda civic, Altis or Perdana? People want to buy, but then no executive car to buy than V6 which internally looks the same as non-V6 available since 1994.

Next in line to change cars:Ministries in malaysia and Public Universities

]]> By: shianghorng http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212424 shianghorng Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:18:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212424 Support local goods? Aren't they slapping themselves?? Support local goods?

Aren’t they slapping themselves??

]]> By: mukhri88 http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212417 mukhri88 Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:11:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212417 Different cars for different purposes. Car for city, car for pedalaman. Pedalaman cars too big for city. Use Volvo for city. Midsize SUV cannot use for both purpose ah? Too cheap? Low class for ministers to use? It's not the issue of how much money you have or whether Volvo is not considered luxury. What would the people in Peninsula think. On the Peninsula, S80 is luxury. And Sabah is part of Malaysia. No autonomy. If we think it's expensive, then it's expensive. No excuses. Different cars for different purposes. Car for city, car for pedalaman. Pedalaman cars too big for city. Use Volvo for city. Midsize SUV cannot use for both purpose ah? Too cheap? Low class for ministers to use?

It’s not the issue of how much money you have or whether Volvo is not considered luxury. What would the people in Peninsula think. On the Peninsula, S80 is luxury. And Sabah is part of Malaysia. No autonomy. If we think it’s expensive, then it’s expensive. No excuses.

]]> By: Encik Ali http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212416 Encik Ali Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:40:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212416 I wonder what does the state government looks at buying a foreign car. yes the perdana may have higher maintainence cost. but why not dump the perdana and opt for the proton chansellor? where has the chansellor gone anyway? it was supposed to replace perdanas isnt it? I wonder what does the state government looks at buying a foreign car.
yes the perdana may have higher maintainence cost. but why not dump the perdana and opt for the proton chansellor?

where has the chansellor gone anyway?
it was supposed to replace perdanas isnt it?

]]> By: BanyakMasukWorkshop http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212413 BanyakMasukWorkshop Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:54:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212413 [quote comment="212396"][quote comment="212378"] Before I answer it please learn what kind of agreement signed during the formation of Malaysia, and go figure out where is the money of oil, timber and palm oil revenue from this state goes to? to the West right?[/quote] Why bring oil revenue into this? According to facts, Sabah is one of the poorest states in whole Msia (population wise). So do you think its smart for the govt to "bergaya" with some Volvos? Whats more Sabah govt recently said its govt "cannot afford" to compensate the people who got flooded in Kota Marudu. BUT can afford new volvo? Another symptom of idiots get elected into state assembly....[/quote] very good point. also what jomo said is true also.. lots of money earned by eastmy does go to the federal govts. coffers.. but thats the govt people voted for. [quote comment="212396"][quote comment="212378"]

Before I answer it please learn what kind of agreement signed during the formation of Malaysia, and go figure out where is the money of oil, timber and palm oil revenue from this state goes to? to the West right?[/quote]

Why bring oil revenue into this?

According to facts, Sabah is one of the poorest states in whole Msia (population wise). So do you think its smart for the govt to “bergaya” with some Volvos?

Whats more Sabah govt recently said its govt “cannot afford” to compensate the people who got flooded in Kota Marudu. BUT can afford new volvo?

Another symptom of idiots get elected into state assembly….[/quote]

very good point.

also what jomo said is true also.. lots of money earned by eastmy does go to the federal govts. coffers.. but thats the govt people voted for.

]]> By: not_ah_beng http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212396 not_ah_beng Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:50:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212396 [quote comment="212378"] Before I answer it please learn what kind of agreement signed during the formation of Malaysia, and go figure out where is the money of oil, timber and palm oil revenue from this state goes to? to the West right?[/quote] Why bring oil revenue into this? According to facts, Sabah is one of the poorest states in whole Msia (population wise). So do you think its smart for the govt to "bergaya" with some Volvos? Whats more Sabah govt recently said its govt "cannot afford" to compensate the people who got flooded in Kota Marudu. BUT can afford new volvo? Another symptom of idiots get elected into state assembly.... [quote comment="212378"]

Before I answer it please learn what kind of agreement signed during the formation of Malaysia, and go figure out where is the money of oil, timber and palm oil revenue from this state goes to? to the West right?[/quote]

Why bring oil revenue into this?

According to facts, Sabah is one of the poorest states in whole Msia (population wise). So do you think its smart for the govt to “bergaya” with some Volvos?

Whats more Sabah govt recently said its govt “cannot afford” to compensate the people who got flooded in Kota Marudu. BUT can afford new volvo?

Another symptom of idiots get elected into state assembly….

]]> By: Jomo http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212386 Jomo Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:36:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212386 [quote comment="212371"][quote comment="212366"][quote comment="212365"]Jomo: i quote some of your comment ok. "I don’t think the Nissan Navara, the Camry or the Accord suitable for the status of this Minister’s" so it's about status now?? the ministers care more about their status than the rakyat's welfare? are you saying, since that Navara, Camry, and Accord (which are luxury enough, and being Japanese, the maintenance cost would be lower than a Volvo) are already used by the public, so the ministers must use a more luxury brand because their status are higher than the public. your comment is back firing.[/quote] Like I mention before, don't comparing the situation in Sabah with those in peninsular. We are too different[/quote] you're missing my point. read again, i was commenting about your point about Navara/Camry/Accord NOT SUITABLE for the STATUS of the ministers.[/quote] Ok, I admit I'm wrong for using the words of STATUS (there's too many comment here). Volvo never considered as a luxury brand here in Sabah. [quote comment="212371"][quote comment="212366"][quote comment="212365"]Jomo:

i quote some of your comment ok.

“I don’t think the Nissan Navara, the Camry or the Accord suitable for the status of this Minister’s”

so it’s about status now?? the ministers care more about their status than the rakyat’s welfare?

are you saying, since that Navara, Camry, and Accord (which are luxury enough, and being Japanese, the maintenance cost would be lower than a Volvo) are already used by the public, so the ministers must use a more luxury brand because their status are higher than the public.

your comment is back firing.[/quote]

Like I mention before, don’t comparing the situation in Sabah with those in peninsular. We are too different[/quote]

you’re missing my point. read again, i was commenting about your point about Navara/Camry/Accord NOT SUITABLE for the STATUS of the ministers.[/quote]

Ok, I admit I’m wrong for using the words of STATUS (there’s too many comment here). Volvo never considered as a luxury brand here in Sabah.

]]> By: Jomo http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212378 Jomo Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:24:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212378 [quote comment="212372"][quote comment="212356"][quote comment="212343"]Hmmm..........dunno who to condemn here. On one hand, this is pure wasting of money by Sabah govt. If they don't want perdana at least get some cheaper car like Accord or Camry. Or Nissan Navara if you wan to complain about bumpy roads. On the other hand, is another slap in the face for Proton. Hehe.[/quote] They are not saying that our state government totally dumped the Perdana's. Instead this Perdana's is still in use by state government. Just the MINISTER'S get this Volvo for the use in the city area. The Perdana's were passed down to the head of department and other use. I don't think the Nissan Navara, the Camry or the Accord suitable for the status of this Minister's. This Navara's, Camry and this Accord were already used by the public in Sabah. It's nothing wrong for the Ministers use this Volvo.[/quote] Even PM Badawi is using a lousy Perdana. Could you please explain to me why these Sabah "MINISTERS" need a status higher than the PM of our country?[/quote] Before I answer it please learn what kind of agreement signed during the formation of Malaysia, and go figure out where is the money of oil, timber and palm oil revenue from this state goes to? to the West right? [quote comment="212372"][quote comment="212356"][quote comment="212343"]Hmmm……….dunno who to condemn here.

On one hand, this is pure wasting of money by Sabah govt. If they don’t want perdana at least get some cheaper car like Accord or Camry. Or Nissan Navara if you wan to complain about bumpy roads.

On the other hand, is another slap in the face for Proton. Hehe.[/quote]

They are not saying that our state government totally dumped the Perdana’s. Instead this Perdana’s is still in use by state government. Just the MINISTER’S get this Volvo for the use in the city area. The Perdana’s were passed down to the head of department and other use. I don’t think the Nissan Navara, the Camry or the Accord suitable for the status of this Minister’s. This Navara’s, Camry and this Accord were already used by the public in Sabah. It’s nothing wrong for the Ministers use this Volvo.[/quote]

Even PM Badawi is using a lousy Perdana.

Could you please explain to me why these Sabah “MINISTERS” need a status higher than the PM of our country?[/quote]

Before I answer it please learn what kind of agreement signed during the formation of Malaysia, and go figure out where is the money of oil, timber and palm oil revenue from this state goes to? to the West right?

]]> By: nikanasz http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212376 nikanasz Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:22:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212376 [quote comment="212372"][quote comment="212356"][quote comment="212343"]Hmmm..........dunno who to condemn here. On one hand, this is pure wasting of money by Sabah govt. If they don't want perdana at least get some cheaper car like Accord or Camry. Or Nissan Navara if you wan to complain about bumpy roads. On the other hand, is another slap in the face for Proton. Hehe.[/quote] They are not saying that our state government totally dumped the Perdana's. Instead this Perdana's is still in use by state government. Just the MINISTER'S get this Volvo for the use in the city area. The Perdana's were passed down to the head of department and other use. I don't think the Nissan Navara, the Camry or the Accord suitable for the status of this Minister's. This Navara's, Camry and this Accord were already used by the public in Sabah. It's nothing wrong for the Ministers use this Volvo.[/quote] Even PM Badawi is using a lousy Perdana. Could you please explain to me why these Sabah "MINISTERS" need a status higher than the PM of our country?[/quote] finally, someone who understood my point. :) [quote comment="212372"][quote comment="212356"][quote comment="212343"]Hmmm……….dunno who to condemn here.

On one hand, this is pure wasting of money by Sabah govt. If they don’t want perdana at least get some cheaper car like Accord or Camry. Or Nissan Navara if you wan to complain about bumpy roads.

On the other hand, is another slap in the face for Proton. Hehe.[/quote]

They are not saying that our state government totally dumped the Perdana’s. Instead this Perdana’s is still in use by state government. Just the MINISTER’S get this Volvo for the use in the city area. The Perdana’s were passed down to the head of department and other use. I don’t think the Nissan Navara, the Camry or the Accord suitable for the status of this Minister’s. This Navara’s, Camry and this Accord were already used by the public in Sabah. It’s nothing wrong for the Ministers use this Volvo.[/quote]

Even PM Badawi is using a lousy Perdana.

Could you please explain to me why these Sabah “MINISTERS” need a status higher than the PM of our country?[/quote]

finally, someone who understood my point. :)

]]> By: not_ah_beng http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212372 not_ah_beng Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:15:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212372 [quote comment="212356"][quote comment="212343"]Hmmm..........dunno who to condemn here. On one hand, this is pure wasting of money by Sabah govt. If they don't want perdana at least get some cheaper car like Accord or Camry. Or Nissan Navara if you wan to complain about bumpy roads. On the other hand, is another slap in the face for Proton. Hehe.[/quote] They are not saying that our state government totally dumped the Perdana's. Instead this Perdana's is still in use by state government. Just the MINISTER'S get this Volvo for the use in the city area. The Perdana's were passed down to the head of department and other use. I don't think the Nissan Navara, the Camry or the Accord suitable for the status of this Minister's. This Navara's, Camry and this Accord were already used by the public in Sabah. It's nothing wrong for the Ministers use this Volvo.[/quote] Even PM Badawi is using a lousy Perdana. Could you please explain to me why these Sabah "MINISTERS" need a status higher than the PM of our country? [quote comment="212356"][quote comment="212343"]Hmmm……….dunno who to condemn here.

On one hand, this is pure wasting of money by Sabah govt. If they don’t want perdana at least get some cheaper car like Accord or Camry. Or Nissan Navara if you wan to complain about bumpy roads.

On the other hand, is another slap in the face for Proton. Hehe.[/quote]

They are not saying that our state government totally dumped the Perdana’s. Instead this Perdana’s is still in use by state government. Just the MINISTER’S get this Volvo for the use in the city area. The Perdana’s were passed down to the head of department and other use. I don’t think the Nissan Navara, the Camry or the Accord suitable for the status of this Minister’s. This Navara’s, Camry and this Accord were already used by the public in Sabah. It’s nothing wrong for the Ministers use this Volvo.[/quote]

Even PM Badawi is using a lousy Perdana.

Could you please explain to me why these Sabah “MINISTERS” need a status higher than the PM of our country?

]]> By: nikanasz http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212371 nikanasz Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:14:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212371 [quote comment="212366"][quote comment="212365"]Jomo: i quote some of your comment ok. "I don’t think the Nissan Navara, the Camry or the Accord suitable for the status of this Minister’s" so it's about status now?? the ministers care more about their status than the rakyat's welfare? are you saying, since that Navara, Camry, and Accord (which are luxury enough, and being Japanese, the maintenance cost would be lower than a Volvo) are already used by the public, so the ministers must use a more luxury brand because their status are higher than the public. your comment is back firing.[/quote] Like I mention before, don't comparing the situation in Sabah with those in peninsular. We are too different[/quote] you're missing my point. read again, i was commenting about your point about Navara/Camry/Accord NOT SUITABLE for the STATUS of the ministers. [quote comment="212366"][quote comment="212365"]Jomo:

i quote some of your comment ok.

“I don’t think the Nissan Navara, the Camry or the Accord suitable for the status of this Minister’s”

so it’s about status now?? the ministers care more about their status than the rakyat’s welfare?

are you saying, since that Navara, Camry, and Accord (which are luxury enough, and being Japanese, the maintenance cost would be lower than a Volvo) are already used by the public, so the ministers must use a more luxury brand because their status are higher than the public.

your comment is back firing.[/quote]

Like I mention before, don’t comparing the situation in Sabah with those in peninsular. We are too different[/quote]

you’re missing my point. read again, i was commenting about your point about Navara/Camry/Accord NOT SUITABLE for the STATUS of the ministers.

]]> By: Jomo http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212370 Jomo Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:14:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212370 [quote comment="212231"]Latest news, test drive volvo on ROUGH TERRAIN as reckon by Mr.Jomo, which volvo sales office? I can't wait. Yes sudha, you got the calculation right, they spend like the whole world is not watching but we are.[/quote] I'm not selling Volvo ok!. Get your fact right first. [quote comment="212231"]Latest news, test drive volvo on ROUGH TERRAIN as reckon by Mr.Jomo, which volvo sales office?

I can’t wait.

Yes sudha, you got the calculation right, they spend like the whole world is not watching but we are.[/quote]

I’m not selling Volvo ok!. Get your fact right first.

]]> By: Jomo http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212368 Jomo Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:12:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212368 [quote comment="212365"]Jomo: i quote some of your comment ok. "I don’t think the Nissan Navara, the Camry or the Accord suitable for the status of this Minister’s" so it's about status now?? the ministers care more about their status than the rakyat's welfare? are you saying, since that Navara, Camry, and Accord (which are luxury enough, and being Japanese, the maintenance cost would be lower than a Volvo) are already used by the public, so the ministers must use a more luxury brand because their status are higher than the public. your comment is back firing.[/quote] why they don't want to use Navara? It's just a simple 4WD's which we locally called "pickup" means to bring a heavy load at the back or hauling around your workers. Furthermore the state government have enough Toyota Land Cruiser that we called "Ninja King", the Cygnus and some Lexus version of Toyota Land Cruiser the LX 470 which are way too luxurious compared to some Japanese brand or even the Continental one. [quote comment="212365"]Jomo:

i quote some of your comment ok.

“I don’t think the Nissan Navara, the Camry or the Accord suitable for the status of this Minister’s”

so it’s about status now?? the ministers care more about their status than the rakyat’s welfare?

are you saying, since that Navara, Camry, and Accord (which are luxury enough, and being Japanese, the maintenance cost would be lower than a Volvo) are already used by the public, so the ministers must use a more luxury brand because their status are higher than the public.

your comment is back firing.[/quote]

why they don’t want to use Navara? It’s just a simple 4WD’s which we locally called “pickup” means to bring a heavy load at the back or hauling around your workers. Furthermore the state government have enough Toyota Land Cruiser that we called “Ninja King”, the Cygnus and some Lexus version of Toyota Land Cruiser the LX 470 which are way too luxurious compared to some Japanese brand or even the Continental one.

]]> By: Jomo http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212366 Jomo Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:00:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212366 [quote comment="212365"]Jomo: i quote some of your comment ok. "I don’t think the Nissan Navara, the Camry or the Accord suitable for the status of this Minister’s" so it's about status now?? the ministers care more about their status than the rakyat's welfare? are you saying, since that Navara, Camry, and Accord (which are luxury enough, and being Japanese, the maintenance cost would be lower than a Volvo) are already used by the public, so the ministers must use a more luxury brand because their status are higher than the public. your comment is back firing.[/quote] Like I mention before, don't comparing the situation in Sabah with those in peninsular. We are too different [quote comment="212365"]Jomo:

i quote some of your comment ok.

“I don’t think the Nissan Navara, the Camry or the Accord suitable for the status of this Minister’s”

so it’s about status now?? the ministers care more about their status than the rakyat’s welfare?

are you saying, since that Navara, Camry, and Accord (which are luxury enough, and being Japanese, the maintenance cost would be lower than a Volvo) are already used by the public, so the ministers must use a more luxury brand because their status are higher than the public.

your comment is back firing.[/quote]

Like I mention before, don’t comparing the situation in Sabah with those in peninsular. We are too different

]]> By: nikanasz http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212365 nikanasz Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:53:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212365 Jomo: i quote some of your comment ok. "I don’t think the Nissan Navara, the Camry or the Accord suitable for the status of this Minister’s" so it's about status now?? the ministers care more about their status than the rakyat's welfare? are you saying, since that Navara, Camry, and Accord (which are luxury enough, and being Japanese, the maintenance cost would be lower than a Volvo) are already used by the public, so the ministers must use a more luxury brand because their status are higher than the public. your comment is back firing. Jomo:

i quote some of your comment ok.

“I don’t think the Nissan Navara, the Camry or the Accord suitable for the status of this Minister’s”

so it’s about status now?? the ministers care more about their status than the rakyat’s welfare?

are you saying, since that Navara, Camry, and Accord (which are luxury enough, and being Japanese, the maintenance cost would be lower than a Volvo) are already used by the public, so the ministers must use a more luxury brand because their status are higher than the public.

your comment is back firing.

]]> By: Jomo http://paultan.org/2009/02/20/sabah-government-dumps-perdana-for-25l-volvos/#comment-212364 Jomo Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:50:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12279#comment-212364 [quote comment="212167"]Take it easy guys, most of us probably don't have all the available information to make assumptions. In my opinion, the Volvos are most likely the XC90s or XC70s, as that would solve the terrain-crossing problems. As for the justification on the prices of these Volvos, they are getting these cars without taxes and import duty, and not to mention discounts for fleet price, so they might not be all that expensive as you would believe it would be. Moreover, Angkatan Hebat is 70% owned by the state government, so I don't see a problem with them helping out the state's own economy in someway. On the other hand, we don't have any Proton manufactured here, and most dealers as well as service centers are West M'sian owned. They are just giving business to their own state's people. Wouldn't you? As for state poverty, you'll be surprised how rich these locals actually are. They might live with just enough cash from hand to mouth, but if you factor in land ownership, these fellas are millionaires! Just that it is hard to make some money out of these lands, due to the terrain. Forget oil palm, rubber or padi, they can't grow these on tough terrains like those that we have in Sabah. Think more bananas and padi bukit, and you'll understand why it's hard to make a living with these lands.[/quote] I forgot to mention to you, it was confirm the car is Volvo S80. I saw it yesterday and last night. [quote comment="212167"]Take it easy guys, most of us probably don’t have all the available information to make assumptions. In my opinion, the Volvos are most likely the XC90s or XC70s, as that would solve the terrain-crossing problems. As for the justification on the prices of these Volvos, they are getting these cars without taxes and import duty, and not to mention discounts for fleet price, so they might not be all that expensive as you would believe it would be. Moreover, Angkatan Hebat is 70% owned by the state government, so I don’t see a problem with them helping out the state’s own economy in someway. On the other hand, we don’t have any Proton manufactured here, and most dealers as well as service centers are West M’sian owned. They are just giving business to their own state’s people. Wouldn’t you?

As for state poverty, you’ll be surprised how rich these locals actually are. They might live with just enough cash from hand to mouth, but if you factor in land ownership, these fellas are millionaires! Just that it is hard to make some money out of these lands, due to the terrain. Forget oil palm, rubber or padi, they can’t grow these on tough terrains like those that we have in Sabah. Think more bananas and padi bukit, and you’ll understand why it’s hard to make a living with these lands.[/quote]

I forgot to mention to you, it was confirm the car is Volvo S80. I saw it yesterday and last night.

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