Comments on: Volkswagen America to demonstrate Passat-Lingyu fuel-cell vehicles at the California Fuel Cell Partnership http://paultan.org/2009/02/23/volkswagen-america-to-demonstrate-passat-lingyu-fuel-cell-vehicles-at-the-california-fuel-cell-partnership/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Wed, 15 Feb 2012 04:02:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: knight_templar http://paultan.org/2009/02/23/volkswagen-america-to-demonstrate-passat-lingyu-fuel-cell-vehicles-at-the-california-fuel-cell-partnership/#comment-214318 knight_templar Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:00:43 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12422#comment-214318 The more systems u introduce into an entity, the more complex it gets. To the naive mind, it may sound all exciting with jargons such as liON and fuel cells, but the laws of nature dictate that introducing more systems, inevitably produce something known as entropy. Simply put, such a system as mentioned above introduces more oppurtunities for losses hence reducing efficiency. I bet through gross calculations, that this FC vehicle is actually less environmentally friendly than a diesel powered car. The more systems u introduce into an entity, the more complex it gets. To the naive mind, it may sound all exciting with jargons such as liON and fuel cells, but the laws of nature dictate that introducing more systems, inevitably produce something known as entropy. Simply put, such a system as mentioned above introduces more oppurtunities for losses hence reducing efficiency. I bet through gross calculations, that this FC vehicle is actually less environmentally friendly than a diesel powered car.

]]> By: 4G63T DSM http://paultan.org/2009/02/23/volkswagen-america-to-demonstrate-passat-lingyu-fuel-cell-vehicles-at-the-california-fuel-cell-partnership/#comment-214261 4G63T DSM Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:47:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12422#comment-214261 KT, Its a chicken and egg thing. Someone will have to bite the bullet. Its interesting its using liONs as well. Perhaps to boost power (sort of like a hybrid) as the primary fuel cell alone may not be sufficient. Paul only noted they were good for only 55kW. 55kW is only about 74hp if I had not messed up my conversions..... KT,

Its a chicken and egg thing. Someone will have to bite the bullet.

Its interesting its using liONs as well. Perhaps to boost power (sort of like a hybrid) as the primary fuel cell alone may not be sufficient. Paul only noted they were good for only 55kW. 55kW is only about 74hp if I had not messed up my conversions…..

]]> By: Sex is wonderful, bu http://paultan.org/2009/02/23/volkswagen-america-to-demonstrate-passat-lingyu-fuel-cell-vehicles-at-the-california-fuel-cell-partnership/#comment-214235 Sex is wonderful, bu Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:21:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12422#comment-214235 hey this is the china passat based on the skoda superb but uglified hey this is the china passat based on the skoda superb but uglified

]]> By: knight_templar http://paultan.org/2009/02/23/volkswagen-america-to-demonstrate-passat-lingyu-fuel-cell-vehicles-at-the-california-fuel-cell-partnership/#comment-214062 knight_templar Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:34:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=12422#comment-214062 Having done a small amount of research in this field, I am biased towards the fuel cell. However i must warn proponents of this technology that fuel cells are a very wide topic and the PEMFC is probably the most viable for automobile applications. Hydrogen of course the a good energy carrier but the infrastructure for refuelling as we kno is zilch. But one thing here caught my attention, the article mentions the use of lithium-ion batteries. What is the life cycle for this battery and how environmentally sustainable is it. Another thing is fuel cells are not 100% recyclable. Having done a small amount of research in this field, I am biased towards the fuel cell. However i must warn proponents of this technology that fuel cells are a very wide topic and the PEMFC is probably the most viable for automobile applications. Hydrogen of course the a good energy carrier but the infrastructure for refuelling as we kno is zilch. But one thing here caught my attention, the article mentions the use of lithium-ion batteries. What is the life cycle for this battery and how environmentally sustainable is it. Another thing is fuel cells are not 100% recyclable.

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