Your Volvo XC90 costs how much? Dumbass![/quote]

at least now, proton product has to be compared with the higher class like xc90 or wish to make it look bad. although the price should be comparable with avanza or citra/carens or grand livina (which is not so "grand" anymore).

125hp!!! still underpower?what about Nissan Livina 107hp or innova 2.0lit only 13+hp?think!!1

so what do we expect? pay less?extra everything?cmmon bro..event kencing also you got to pay RM0.20 (at least)..Bg peluang la diaorang blajar

I think i gonna wait for the Perodua MPV out first before deciding..[/quote]

i think you shouldnt compare it with the upcoming perodua purely on dashboard design.. the proton mpv is going to be significantly larger than the perodua. there are definitely many more factors to take into account.[/quote]

and yet, perodua dashboard design will be directly adapted from more professional maker of toyota/daihatsu design. for sure it will be better than Exora. its not fair to compared them, think about it. [/quote]

Come on guys…. if you want to do something please do it professionally. So I dont think that by comparing proton with perodua is unacceptable. If the perodua is good ,then proton should be better in 'dashboard design'. But of course on top of that money is concern.[/quote]

-the perodua myvy(toyota),kancil(daihatsu),rusa(daihatsu),kembara(daihatsu),the SUV(toyota)-those toyota and daihatsu dah buat kereta almost 30yr(maybe more)…we are comparing with proton yang baru produce own tech,own car (starting with waja) with 80-90% of local parts and technology…TAK ADIL LANGSUNG..NOT FAIR TO THEM!!!!

pyrite brown-new colour for our new mpv

@ solid white

[quote comment="216634"]offtopic>>

may be u're right.

may be i'm right.

run the simulator n see which configuration provide the best result.[/quote]

i am right…[/quote]

hopefully

I think i gonna wait for the Perodua MPV out first before deciding..[/quote]

i think you shouldnt compare it with the upcoming perodua purely on dashboard design.. the proton mpv is going to be significantly larger than the perodua. there are definitely many more factors to take into account.[/quote]

and yet, perodua dashboard design will be directly adapted from more professional maker of toyota/daihatsu design. for sure it will be better than Exora. its not fair to compared them, think about it. [/quote]

Come on guys…. if you want to do something please do it professionally. So I dont think that by comparing proton with perodua is unacceptable. If the perodua is good ,then proton should be better in 'dashboard design'. But of course on top of that money is concern.

mind your language bro.. or is it a VOLVO drivers always talking like this..

exactly bro, some ppl are just irresponsible… i'm no Proton fan, infact I HATE Proton cars… never own a Proton in my life… i have my reasons but that's not entitle me to say something that is not… some ppl here like to look down on Proton & some ppl here protect it like hell… some r right with their points but some r just blind basher or protector (if i may say)… but the point is, don't misguide other ppl who honestly seek infos.. if it good just say it good, vice versa… & that goes to all.. basher or not..

p/s: i'm tired of this quarreling nonsense

I read this exactly same comment , same word by word somewhere else

what are you trying to do, flaming ah, bro ..? got no life ah..?

whatever it is if you like Rondo please go and buy it now because it is a very good car. You dont have to wait for this Exora la bro,.. this maybe not for you but this is for a few thousands other out there, including me.

If you want to see what is inside the Proton RnD, write to them say that you 'heard from somewhere that Proton cars were not designed by Proton but merely an extension of the Korean cars' and if you're lucky enough maybe they will take you, Mr Skeptic, for a tour inside their facility. By the time you're out and on your way home i bet you'd like to eat back your words.

Don't just spread rumors.

.peace!

aiyooo~

why they roll backward even gen 2 look better than this..

i think now days GPS is compulsory la..

kata MPV..

or do dey have exora special edition??dats y white colour not on listed

based on perodua before..for viva black colour

[quote comment="216634"]offtopic>>

may be u're right.

may be i'm right.

run the simulator n see which configuration provide the best result.[/quote]

i am right…

may be u're right.

may be i'm right.

run the simulator n see which configuration provide the best result.

it is misleading to come with a statement :

"square ducting = bad flowrate, more turbulence i.e noisy

round ducting = smooth flow, less turbulence i.e quieter"

geometric (shape) may influence the characteristic of flow (eg Re Number)

however, given different geometry (eg size) with different parameter (eg mass flowrate, velocity), things will change.

& this change may differ with the initially-perceived-expected result

its weird man..of all the thing in a car..a aircond vent design can turn u off and make you not to buy a car??i do see similar vents in honda's,toyota's and even those germans…who kept their interior design simple…so whats the fuss??

an aircond vent being factor for people not buying a car is really crazy to even think off!![/quote]

it's not crazy if u think like this;

square ducting = bad flowrate, more turbulence i.e noisy

round ducting = smooth flow, less turbulence i.e quieter

I can see some of the forummers were not BASHER though some may love to dub as basher. Their comment due to their love (and hate) affairs with Proton. More toward LOVE. If you seat design not that perfect, you simply can change the seats. BUT if you SRS-ed dashboard like 80-s if not 90s how you going to live with that for whole of ownership?

And if Proton in house designers can't afford to design why not outsourced? In fact the Wish design or at least Grandis' look better and more proportionate. Dashboard is new stuff not carry over from other car (Saga MK II borrow from Savvy case).

We have software to create why don't we try to make it more practical, aesthetic and so on?

I still remember Gen 2's dashboard. Since many people dissatisfied with Proton Waja and Wira rattling sound from glovebox; proton forgo dashboard in Gen-2 and realized the thing is escape from the real issue- in Persona incarnation they incorporated a glovebox and decent design door panel.

Exora panel also not that good but still acceptable than UGLY design from designers who live in different world, perhaps.

Love Proton and DSZ.[/quote]

have you seen toyota wish's dashboard or a honda stream's dashboard??if you did…you wouldnt complain about proton's MPV dashboard design!!it a conservative design..thats all…check latest honda city's aircond vents..very less people complain and its a best selling model right now..design is only to attract buyers…proton has alot of quality issue…and this quality issues arise when they came up with unique(more complex designs) because alot of time needed to produce a more refined production module and etc..where time is money for all automotive industry…proton just cant afford to wait..

with this MPV design..i feel it proton's way to assure people that they are paying attention on quality by having a simple yet functional design..but i dont know how people here can say that the quality is bad and not up standard!!

if you go for interior design for a MPV around the similar class..kia rondo has the best…and toyota wish has the worst!!simple as that..so i dont mind if a proton sits right in the middle…[/quote]

actually exora want simple or conservative design is find, but look ?design? must up to standard, your can say wish dashboard is worst, but most ppl accept it bcos it look fine and update standard with Digital aircond. event viva simple look practical dashboard look nicer than this exora design? i can tell u if exora use digital aircond it look up to other level.

my father and brother comeback from Exora dealer preview in sunway few

week ago , also "Shaking the head" went look at this exora dashboard and rear drum break, no problem with QC of this Exora, QC is very up to standard, seat look super but design dashboard look down…spoil entire interior …

just wait to see actually dashboard, u will know it.

if the '1.3' emblem was taped, it might not be a '1.3' emblem…think again! Hahahahahahaha…..regarding the colour, the 5 colours are confirmed, but i am not sure about the distribution, marketting dept decides that…..so maybe the salesman was true, maybe not….

Cheers![/quote]

ya it might not 1.3 emblem.. is it proton gonna come out a new ver of saga?? heran la..why they do a testing for saga…anyway thank for the info si-fu.

thankz[/quote]

i think that is the 1.6 Saga….. i'm repeat.. i think…. why??? because on the 27 Feb… i have seen one new Proton Saga taxi at section 14 PJ with new taxi plate… and the Saga taxi that i see is with 1.6 emblem and NGV's sticker at the back…. (yes i'm very shock)… 1.6 for Saga….??? i'm sorry because i didn't take any pic… but i believe what i see….. so you??

its weird man..of all the thing in a car..a aircond vent design can turn u off and make you not to buy a car??i do see similar vents in honda's,toyota's and even those germans…who kept their interior design simple…so whats the fuss??

an aircond vent being factor for people not buying a car is really crazy to even think off!!

I can see some of the forummers were not BASHER though some may love to dub as basher. Their comment due to their love (and hate) affairs with Proton. More toward LOVE. If you seat design not that perfect, you simply can change the seats. BUT if you SRS-ed dashboard like 80-s if not 90s how you going to live with that for whole of ownership?

And if Proton in house designers can’t afford to design why not outsourced? In fact the Wish design or at least Grandis’ look better and more proportionate. Dashboard is new stuff not carry over from other car (Saga MK II borrow from Savvy case).

We have software to create why don’t we try to make it more practical, aesthetic and so on?

I still remember Gen 2′s dashboard. Since many people dissatisfied with Proton Waja and Wira rattling sound from glovebox; proton forgo dashboard in Gen-2 and realized the thing is escape from the real issue- in Persona incarnation they incorporated a glovebox and decent design door panel.

Exora panel also not that good but still acceptable than UGLY design from designers who live in different world, perhaps.

Love Proton and DSZ.[/quote]

have you seen toyota wish’s dashboard or a honda stream’s dashboard??if you did…you wouldnt complain about proton’s MPV dashboard design!!it a conservative design..thats all…check latest honda city’s aircond vents..very less people complain and its a best selling model right now..design is only to attract buyers…proton has alot of quality issue…and this quality issues arise when they came up with unique(more complex designs) because alot of time needed to produce a more refined production module and etc..where time is money for all automotive industry…proton just cant afford to wait..

with this MPV design..i feel it proton’s way to assure people that they are paying attention on quality by having a simple yet functional design..but i dont know how people here can say that the quality is bad and not up standard!!

if you go for interior design for a MPV around the similar class..kia rondo has the best…and toyota wish has the worst!!simple as that..so i dont mind if a proton sits right in the middle…[/quote]

actually exora want simple or conservative design is find, but look ?design? must up to standard, your can say wish dashboard is worst, but most ppl accept it bcos it look fine and update standard with Digital aircond. event viva simple look practical dashboard look nicer than this exora design? i can tell u if exora use digital aircond it look up to other level.

my father and brother comeback from Exora dealer preview in sunway few
week ago , also “Shaking the head” went look at this exora dashboard and rear drum break, no problem with QC of this Exora, QC is very up to standard, seat look super but design dashboard look down…spoil entire interior …
just wait to see actually dashboard, u will know it.

Don't like the air-cond vents. But interior wise ? Kinda spacious.

maybe he is stupid. but if we look at it differently, proton is making one hell of a good job to be compared with a VOLVO!!!!

peace…[/quote]

Proton is making "one hell of a good job to be compared with a VOLVO"??? clap clap clap… no wonders outsiders mention some of us still living in a jungle with monkeys…[/quote]

Yes indeed. It's bcuz of low quality comment like urs.

And u dare to call urself "NoToLowQuality"?!?! Sheesh. It's not even funny if it's intended as a joke.