Comments on: Geneva 2009: Lotus Evora Launch Edition http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sun, 27 May 2012 03:34:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: FALIQ http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-299586 FALIQ Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:49:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-299586 How much is the OTR price in Malaysia? How much is the OTR price in Malaysia?

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]]> By: Hafidz Moro http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-219707 Hafidz Moro Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:23:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-219707 To those who dont know: 1) A brand need a history 2) A history came from past achievement and visions 3) Past achievement involve a lot of time, failure and try 'n' error A brand (ie:Lotus,Proton,.Merc,BMW,Honda etc.) will create a market segments, sub brand (model from a brand ie: C-class,3 series,Perdana,Saga,Exige etc) will create designated buyers. Thats where you can see Toyota came with LEXUS and SCION(if not mistaken), NISSAN with Infiniti..Auto Union with all the brands under them..and so on..They create brand to segment the market,not just change an emblem to another car coz that involve pride.. not like err ..NAZA, INOKOM & PERODUA? hihihi.. When all of that 1st and 2nd paragraphs combines and blend tastefully, the term 'loyalty' exist! thats brand practice.. cheers! To those who dont know:

1) A brand need a history

2) A history came from past achievement and visions

3) Past achievement involve a lot of time, failure and try 'n' error

A brand (ie:Lotus,Proton,.Merc,BMW,Honda etc.) will create a market segments, sub brand (model from a brand ie: C-class,3 series,Perdana,Saga,Exige etc) will create designated buyers.

Thats where you can see Toyota came with LEXUS and SCION(if not mistaken), NISSAN with Infiniti..Auto Union with all the brands under them..and so on..They create brand to segment the market,not just change an emblem to another car coz that involve pride.. not like err ..NAZA, INOKOM & PERODUA? hihihi..

When all of that 1st and 2nd paragraphs combines and blend tastefully, the term 'loyalty' exist! thats brand practice..

cheers!

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]]> By: mkrafz http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-219706 mkrafz Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:20:43 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-219706 does the name very familiar..? Oh..! ya its Exora.. Evora=Exora.. sound very european... does the name very familiar..?

Oh..! ya its Exora..

Evora=Exora..

sound very european…

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]]> By: Tiadaid http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-219374 Tiadaid Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:28:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-219374 [quote comment="218849"]Between exora and evora. Sometimes that phase makes people confused abaout these models. Even Lotus is a part of Proton company, why proton did not build a malaysian supercar to attract supercar lovers? And why proton did not plan to rebadge the lotus models as the proton brand to sale it in malaysia?[/quote] Brand positioning is the key here. Proton is known as a maker of practical cars, not sports cars. I don't think it will work at all for Proton to badge a supercar as Proton. On the other hand, if they soup up a Satria Neo with bigger engines and what not, if that's sold as a Lotus then its fine, because in the mind of the consumers, Lotus is a performance car manufacturer. It's hard to shift the consumers perception on the brand, so don't even attempt to have a Proton supercar. It will only make the company suffer! [quote comment="218849"]Between exora and evora. Sometimes that phase makes people confused abaout these models. Even Lotus is a part of Proton company, why proton did not build a malaysian supercar to attract supercar lovers? And why proton did not plan to rebadge the lotus models as the proton brand to sale it in malaysia?[/quote]

Brand positioning is the key here. Proton is known as a maker of practical cars, not sports cars. I don't think it will work at all for Proton to badge a supercar as Proton. On the other hand, if they soup up a Satria Neo with bigger engines and what not, if that's sold as a Lotus then its fine, because in the mind of the consumers, Lotus is a performance car manufacturer. It's hard to shift the consumers perception on the brand, so don't even attempt to have a Proton supercar. It will only make the company suffer!

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]]> By: bmpower http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-219353 bmpower Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:10:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-219353 PM5 car is not an europa lah! PM5 car is not an europa lah!

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]]> By: micheal http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-219190 micheal Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:07:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-219190 [quote comment="218954"][quote comment="218890"][quote comment="218849"]Between exora and evora. Sometimes that phase makes people confused abaout these models. Even Lotus is a part of Proton company, why proton did not build a malaysian supercar to attract supercar lovers? And why proton did not plan to rebadge the lotus models as the proton brand to sale it in malaysia?[/quote] FYI proton under tengku mahalel already thinks in similar lines as you... The Lotus Europa was supposed to be Proton's 1st sportscar, but the new management canned it and it was eventually released as a Lotus. I really think all proton sport-ish cars should be badged as lotus, I would love to see a Lotus Neo Turbo ( reminds me of the great old days of Lotus Cortina and Lotus Carlton )[/quote] Yes, The Lotus Europa was supposed to be the 1st Proton supercar. And most of the design are from Proton RnD.[/quote] true, i went to PM's office lobby, i saw an europa with proton badged, called proton pm5... [quote comment="218954"][quote comment="218890"][quote comment="218849"]Between exora and evora. Sometimes that phase makes people confused abaout these models. Even Lotus is a part of Proton company, why proton did not build a malaysian supercar to attract supercar lovers? And why proton did not plan to rebadge the lotus models as the proton brand to sale it in malaysia?[/quote]

FYI proton under tengku mahalel already thinks in similar lines as you… The Lotus Europa was supposed to be Proton's 1st sportscar, but the new management canned it and it was eventually released as a Lotus. I really think all proton sport-ish cars should be badged as lotus, I would love to see a Lotus Neo Turbo ( reminds me of the great old days of Lotus Cortina and Lotus Carlton )[/quote]

Yes, The Lotus Europa was supposed to be the 1st Proton supercar. And most of the design are from Proton RnD.[/quote]

true, i went to PM's office lobby, i saw an europa with proton badged, called proton pm5…

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]]> By: fastcx http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-219079 fastcx Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:18:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-219079 [quote comment="219044"][quote comment="218974"]and what about diesel?? thinks lotus on a diesel?? :)[/quote] Nop i dun think they will go for diesel but they have develop an engine that run on Ethanol[/quote] ethanol! sugar cane power! ;) [quote comment="219044"][quote comment="218974"]and what about diesel??

thinks lotus on a diesel??
:) [/quote]

Nop i dun think they will go for diesel

but they have develop an engine that run on Ethanol[/quote]

ethanol! sugar cane power! ;)

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]]> By: lightflyer http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-219044 lightflyer Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:22:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-219044 [quote comment="218974"]and what about diesel?? thinks lotus on a diesel?? :)[/quote] Nop i dun think they will go for diesel but they have develop an engine that run on Ethanol [quote comment="218974"]and what about diesel??

thinks lotus on a diesel??
:) [/quote]

Nop i dun think they will go for diesel

but they have develop an engine that run on Ethanol

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]]> By: lo http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218981 lo Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:00:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218981 why toyota has been chosen is probably they are offering something mroe attractiv ein terms of economical scale . why toyota has been chosen is probably they are offering something mroe attractiv ein terms of economical scale .

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]]> By: ali38hak http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218974 ali38hak Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:48:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218974 and what about diesel?? thinks lotus on a diesel?? :) and what about diesel??

thinks lotus on a diesel??
:)

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]]> By: LotusLover http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218954 LotusLover Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:51:43 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218954 [quote comment="218890"][quote comment="218849"]Between exora and evora. Sometimes that phase makes people confused abaout these models. Even Lotus is a part of Proton company, why proton did not build a malaysian supercar to attract supercar lovers? And why proton did not plan to rebadge the lotus models as the proton brand to sale it in malaysia?[/quote] FYI proton under tengku mahalel already thinks in similar lines as you... The Lotus Europa was supposed to be Proton's 1st sportscar, but the new management canned it and it was eventually released as a Lotus. I really think all proton sport-ish cars should be badged as lotus, I would love to see a Lotus Neo Turbo ( reminds me of the great old days of Lotus Cortina and Lotus Carlton )[/quote] Yes, The Lotus Europa was supposed to be the 1st Proton supercar. And most of the design are from Proton RnD. [quote comment="218890"][quote comment="218849"]Between exora and evora. Sometimes that phase makes people confused abaout these models. Even Lotus is a part of Proton company, why proton did not build a malaysian supercar to attract supercar lovers? And why proton did not plan to rebadge the lotus models as the proton brand to sale it in malaysia?[/quote]

FYI proton under tengku mahalel already thinks in similar lines as you… The Lotus Europa was supposed to be Proton's 1st sportscar, but the new management canned it and it was eventually released as a Lotus. I really think all proton sport-ish cars should be badged as lotus, I would love to see a Lotus Neo Turbo ( reminds me of the great old days of Lotus Cortina and Lotus Carlton )[/quote]

Yes, The Lotus Europa was supposed to be the 1st Proton supercar. And most of the design are from Proton RnD.

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]]> By: csv http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218953 csv Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:47:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218953 nice car. like the looks and praticality. nice car. like the looks and praticality.

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]]> By: crustacea http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218935 crustacea Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:12:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218935 Lotus Exora Proton Evora Lotus Exora

Proton Evora

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]]> By: BanyakMasukWorkshop http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218910 BanyakMasukWorkshop Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:25:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218910 [quote comment="218903"]"The Evora comes with a 3-year or 100,000-kilometer whole vehicle warranty with an 8 years chassis perforation warranty for E.U markets." wahahaha really good deal[/quote] the interesting thing is, most sports car makers usually never quote their warranty packages.. hahha. [quote comment="218903"]"The Evora comes with a 3-year or 100,000-kilometer whole vehicle warranty with an 8 years chassis perforation warranty for E.U markets."

wahahaha really good deal[/quote]

the interesting thing is, most sports car makers usually never quote their warranty packages.. hahha.

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]]> By: lightflyer http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218903 lightflyer Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:10:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218903 "The Evora comes with a 3-year or 100,000-kilometer whole vehicle warranty with an 8 years chassis perforation warranty for E.U markets." wahahaha really good deal "The Evora comes with a 3-year or 100,000-kilometer whole vehicle warranty with an 8 years chassis perforation warranty for E.U markets."

wahahaha really good deal

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]]> By: donno http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218890 donno Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:54:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218890 [quote comment="218849"]Between exora and evora. Sometimes that phase makes people confused abaout these models. Even Lotus is a part of Proton company, why proton did not build a malaysian supercar to attract supercar lovers? And why proton did not plan to rebadge the lotus models as the proton brand to sale it in malaysia?[/quote] FYI proton under tengku mahalel already thinks in similar lines as you... The Lotus Europa was supposed to be Proton's 1st sportscar, but the new management canned it and it was eventually released as a Lotus. I really think all proton sport-ish cars should be badged as lotus, I would love to see a Lotus Neo Turbo ( reminds me of the great old days of Lotus Cortina and Lotus Carlton ) [quote comment="218849"]Between exora and evora. Sometimes that phase makes people confused abaout these models. Even Lotus is a part of Proton company, why proton did not build a malaysian supercar to attract supercar lovers? And why proton did not plan to rebadge the lotus models as the proton brand to sale it in malaysia?[/quote]

FYI proton under tengku mahalel already thinks in similar lines as you… The Lotus Europa was supposed to be Proton's 1st sportscar, but the new management canned it and it was eventually released as a Lotus. I really think all proton sport-ish cars should be badged as lotus, I would love to see a Lotus Neo Turbo ( reminds me of the great old days of Lotus Cortina and Lotus Carlton )

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]]> By: BanyakMasukWorkshop http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218881 BanyakMasukWorkshop Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:43:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218881 [quote comment="218841"]why lotus choose toyotas' 3.5V6 powertrain & not other makes? why not bmw or honda powertrains? isit due to cost factor or the dynamics & potential toyotas' 3.5V6 offered compares to other makes?[/quote] its probably due to lotus and toyota having a long working relationship which also benefits the cost factor. anyways.. why not toyota? [quote comment="218841"]why lotus choose toyotas' 3.5V6 powertrain & not other makes?

why not bmw or honda powertrains?

isit due to cost factor or the dynamics & potential toyotas' 3.5V6 offered compares to other makes?[/quote]

its probably due to lotus and toyota having a long working relationship which also benefits the cost factor.

anyways.. why not toyota?

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]]> By: red7 http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218873 red7 Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:24:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218873 Paul, hope can see the interior pics soon! Paul, hope can see the interior pics soon!

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]]> By: bmpower http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218870 bmpower Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:18:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218870 how many of you can afford a sport car? fine!.. you want and Evora with a price of kancil? yes! That's malaysian!. Wanna everything cheap! But lazy to gain more income. how many of you can afford a sport car?

fine!.. you want and Evora with a price of kancil?

yes! That's malaysian!. Wanna everything cheap! But lazy to gain more income.

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]]> By: kei9 http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218857 kei9 Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:07:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218857 The stance is just beautiful. About the EXORA and Evora probs.. blah. whats the big deal. The stance is just beautiful.

About the EXORA and Evora probs..

blah. whats the big deal.

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]]> By: amirzaim http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218849 amirzaim Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:15:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218849 Between exora and evora. Sometimes that phase makes people confused abaout these models. Even Lotus is a part of Proton company, why proton did not build a malaysian supercar to attract supercar lovers? And why proton did not plan to rebadge the lotus models as the proton brand to sale it in malaysia? Between exora and evora. Sometimes that phase makes people confused abaout these models. Even Lotus is a part of Proton company, why proton did not build a malaysian supercar to attract supercar lovers? And why proton did not plan to rebadge the lotus models as the proton brand to sale it in malaysia?

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]]> By: thomas http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218841 thomas Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:32:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218841 why lotus choose toyotas' 3.5V6 powertrain & not other makes? why not bmw or honda powertrains? isit due to cost factor or the dynamics & potential toyotas' 3.5V6 offered compares to other makes? why lotus choose toyotas' 3.5V6 powertrain & not other makes?

why not bmw or honda powertrains?

isit due to cost factor or the dynamics & potential toyotas' 3.5V6 offered compares to other makes?

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]]> By: didymus_thomas http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218839 didymus_thomas Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:26:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218839 why lotus choose toyotas' 3.5V6 powertrain over other makers? why not bmw or honda? isit due to cost factor or the dynamics & potentials of the powertrain offered? why lotus choose toyotas' 3.5V6 powertrain over other makers?

why not bmw or honda?

isit due to cost factor or the dynamics & potentials of the powertrain offered?

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]]> By: micheal http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218822 micheal Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:56:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218822 this evora reminds me of aston martin... hahaa this evora reminds me of aston martin…

hahaa

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]]> By: fastcx http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218782 fastcx Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:29:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218782 sexy ^^ sexy ^^

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]]> By: Dracryst http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218779 Dracryst Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:22:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218779 Not sure why but I love the looks and the "practical-ability" of this Lotus. Not sure why but I love the looks and the "practical-ability" of this Lotus.

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]]> By: lambov12 http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218770 lambov12 Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:47:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218770 nice .. looks koneeeeeeeeeigseeeeeeeegggggggg to me .. nice ..

looks koneeeeeeeeeigseeeeeeeegggggggg to me ..

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]]> By: bmpower http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218764 bmpower Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:41:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218764 Paul, how much it is in RM later? :D Paul, how much it is in RM later? :D

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]]> By: baby_t http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218741 baby_t Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:01:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218741 i'm too... my brain some how intepret the Evora i saw to Exora i'm too… my brain some how intepret the Evora i saw to Exora

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]]> By: Proud2BMalaysian http://paultan.org/2009/03/09/geneva-2009-lotus-evora-launch-edition/#comment-218723 Proud2BMalaysian Mon, 09 Mar 2009 10:07:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=13134#comment-218723 Sorry, now it's the right picture. Thanx! Sorry, now it's the right picture. Thanx!

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