Comments on: CKD Europestar RCR gets its own front-end

By: teck

teck — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 02:18:45 +0000

now the kaki modifield hav a new china spec can make up the car…

By: aku

aku — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:06:08 +0000

yeah, proton suck,,,, we are the watermelon, proton executive member were durian, they get their royalty, but we got to pay tax, all because of proton, just like buy a honda civic car, then change the name to proton ^$#^&%* and then sell it again,,,ridiculous,,,,

By: Kamal

Kamal — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:59:52 +0000

Quoting Lancermania : Trusting our made in Malaysia car is nt an idiot, those who can’t even thrust product from thier own country is the truly idiot, you’re the want who can’t grow up, you should shame of your self! End Quote /

I cant help but to LOL on this. LANCERmania is being patriotic. You should revise your nick to something that is actually produced in Malaysia, e.g dodolmania, belacanmania …and so on. Point is, Proton needs to die for the rest of us to have affordable cars.

By: tec96248

tec96248 — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:21:14 +0000

Lancermania said,

March 18, 2009 @ 8:05 pm · Reply with quote

damn……..again just another idiot who don’t understand properly with the english language. read overall, not points. don’t shame urself by shaming others, wiramania supposed. no wonder we malaysia unable to move faster, too much being dragged by idiots.

By: Lancermania

Lancermania — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:05:52 +0000

[quote comment="222079"]azrai said,

March 18, 2009 @ 9:20 am · Reply with quote

Truly Ah Beng’s Gen-2, come from Ah Beng’s great grandfather’s land. looks hideous to me. Trying to emulate MG rover grille. Those Lotus Engineering emblem looks like coming out from Brothers’ shop DIY.

–what did it have to do with Ah Beng's great grandfatther's land? the car in malaysia quality sucks have anything to do with ur father?? u r just another idiot. no wonder is getting boring, so many can't grow up. what a pity? hahahaha[/quote]

Trusting our made in Malaysia car is nt an idiot, those who can't even thrust product from thier own country is the truly idiot, you're the want who can't grow up, you should shame of your self!

By: nss

nss — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:52:48 +0000

That is good news that Proton car can sold to oversea like a hotcake under Lotus Engineered named.

Maybe later, Exora will sent to China to rebadged to Europstar brand in the name qingnian lianhua Jingda, Youngman Lotus Competing Big, Europstar Exora.

Jingda in Hokkien nearly mean sure big, really big, truly big, sangat besar, besar gila…

By: nss

nss — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:04:47 +0000

[quote comment="222060"][quote comment="221945"][quote comment="221911"][quote comment="221886"].In names of chinese character, Qingnian Lianhua Jinsu means Youngman Lotus Competing Speed, Qingnian Lianhua Jinyue means Youngman Lotus Competing Fun. I dont see any Proton there..[/quote]

Perodua also didn't mention any "T" or "D" badges for any of their cars.. that including CBU Perodua nautica…[/quote]

Isnt Lotus is belong to Proton? Why not Europestar is engineered by Lotus of Proton? Qingnian Proton Jingsu? Or some sound like Lotus Proton, Proton Lotus? Gen-2 and Persona are rebadge from Lotus but not truly own by Proton?[/quote]

u know, "Proton" name itself already used by another company in china.. it's not about who engineered who… it's about branding… if i'm using "aenz" name for my electric components, can any foreign company use that "aenz" name also??[/quote]

Oh, this is about branding. Lotus in the China Branded Youngman Lotus. Thats why in the history of Lotus on the Youngman website never talk about Proton.

I think Jingsu in Hokkien mean truly loser.

Rebaged Persona is Europstar Persona.

By: nss

nss — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:02:10 +0000

Perodua also didn't mention any "T" or "D" badges for any of their cars.. that including CBU Perodua nautica…[/quote]

Oh, this is about branding. Lotus in the China Branded Youngman Lotus. Thats why in the history of Lotus on the Youngman website never talk about Proton.

By: tec96248

tec96248 — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:14:40 +0000

azrai said,

March 18, 2009 @ 9:20 am · Reply with quote

By: aenz81

aenz81 — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:35:49 +0000

[quote comment="221945"][quote comment="221911"][quote comment="221886"].In names of chinese character, Qingnian Lianhua Jinsu means Youngman Lotus Competing Speed, Qingnian Lianhua Jinyue means Youngman Lotus Competing Fun. I dont see any Proton there..[/quote]

Perodua also didn't mention any "T" or "D" badges for any of their cars.. that including CBU Perodua nautica…[/quote]

By: Lancermania

Lancermania — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:30:33 +0000

[quote comment="222015"]BLOODY hell, it looks more better and nicer than PROTON

Proton sucks….

PLEASE proton throw away ALL your designer staff…

Hire others like what KIA doing….perhaps from MAZDA [/quote]

i certainly din't agree with you on this, our own design is MUCH better than this, Proton is doing much better now compare to last time, hei, support our own Malaysian designer… don't always look down to our made in Malaysia things, sometimes our is better than others..

By: azrai

azrai — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:20:30 +0000

Truly Ah Beng's Gen-2, come from Ah Beng's great grandfather's land. looks hideous to me. Trying to emulate MG rover grille. Those Lotus Engineering emblem looks like coming out from Brothers' shop DIY.

By: mokkf82

mokkf82 — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:59:34 +0000

[quote comment="222015"]BLOODY hell, it looks more better and nicer than PROTON

Proton sucks….

PLEASE proton throw away ALL your designer staff…

Hire others like what KIA doing….perhaps from MAZDA [/quote]

Kawan, later u will got bang by saying such words.

We are in totally different market with them. Here we want quality, there they just want the money. So ppl will start changing what so ever material & design with the cheapest price they can get. So at the end the parts not even lasted for what they build for.

By: kimi_

kimi_ — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:14:22 +0000

BLOODY hell, it looks more better and nicer than PROTON

Proton sucks….

PLEASE proton throw away ALL your designer staff…

Hire others like what KIA doing….perhaps from MAZDA

By: Bw

Bw — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 02:26:46 +0000

Hey "Jingsu" in hokkien means very lousy la haha!!!

Anyway i think the rear end looks nicer than the malaysian verison le… but then the front suxx my butt!!! haha

By: dog

dog — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:27:45 +0000

I have always hated Chinese fonts( for English ) really really hate them

By: BanyakMasukWorkshop

BanyakMasukWorkshop — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:40:44 +0000

is it just me or do china cars have a certain look about them? and somehow, even the gen2 is transformed to look like a china car now.

By: kei9

kei9 — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:30:11 +0000

They still use crap 1st gen gen2 rims.

All in all. Not nice.

Even the rear light loos cluttered and cheap.

Anyways it's for them not us.

By: NutzeyWagen

NutzeyWagen — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:16:57 +0000

[quote comment="221897"]why named it "Jingsu" ?? In hokkien mean Mengaku Kalah.[/quote]

Agreed with you LL!

[quote comment="221935"][quote comment="221827"]Later we can get cheaper part for proton Made in China[/quote]

Why not, if the quality is high. Then proton can lower it's price and no more protection.[/quote]

Yes of course, cheaper parts from China, but certainly NOT of quality. Do you guys know that our market is flooded with lots of FAKE (read IMITATION) parts from China? The quality might not be there, but the similarity of parts manufactured fooled even my trained eyes, initially. One example is the fuel-pump module for the Waja/Gen2. At a glance, it's similar to the genuine product, but on further examination, the flaws showed. Initially I heard from the grapevine that this particular fake lasted only for about a month or so, but there had been cases where it only lasted A DAY. 24 HOURS! A genuine fuel-pump module would cost between RM480.00 – RM550.00 w/o installation (depending on where you buy it), whereas a fake would go for between RM300.00 – RM 400.00. Warranty period for genuine is 6 months, fake is negotiable, but usually a month. So guys, get your parts from a reputable parts shop or your trusted mechanic/technician. There are lots of them out there, honest parts shop and mechanics/technicians.

Chiao!

By: nss

nss — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:07:09 +0000

[quote comment="221911"][quote comment="221886"].In names of chinese character, Qingnian Lianhua Jinsu means Youngman Lotus Competing Speed, Qingnian Lianhua Jinyue means Youngman Lotus Competing Fun. I dont see any Proton there..[/quote]

Perodua also didn't mention any "T" or "D" badges for any of their cars.. that including CBU Perodua nautica…[/quote]

By: kampung boy

kampung boy — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:52:25 +0000

[quote comment="221853"]its better but still crap[/quote]

some ppl r juz too brand conscious!! maybe if the damn tata nano in the 'T' badge u will say it is d best car!

By: madboy

madboy — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:42:00 +0000

[quote comment="221827"]Later we can get cheaper part for proton Made in China[/quote]

Why not, if the quality is high. Then proton can lower it's price and no more protection.

By: MyviKiller

MyviKiller — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:18:57 +0000

[quote comment="221871"]i dun like d front end, bt d rear light looks good to me… anyone consider selling yur ori gen2 front end to them??[/quote]

Good idea bro, just like we change our Wiras to JDM Lancer, and we get their LED rearlamps, vice versa.

By: yiheng

yiheng — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:00:15 +0000

maybe the next happening thing in modification scene is CDM (China Domestic Market) spec just like JDM spec for mitsu-based proton?

By: aenz81

aenz81 — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:48:16 +0000

[quote comment="221886"].In names of chinese character, Qingnian Lianhua Jinsu means Youngman Lotus Competing Speed, Qingnian Lianhua Jinyue means Youngman Lotus Competing Fun. I dont see any Proton there..[/quote]

Perodua also didn't mention any "T" or "D" badges for any of their cars.. that including CBU Perodua nautica…

By: LotusLover

LotusLover — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:22:56 +0000

why named it "Jingsu" ?? In hokkien mean Mengaku Kalah.

By: nss

nss — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:58:47 +0000

On the Youngman Auto official Website, I got some information, Europestar Jingsu is Gen-2 rebadging hatchback car, Europestar Jinyue is Persona rebadging sedan car. Europestar is engineered by Lotus. In names of chinese character, Qingnian Lianhua Jinsu means Youngman Lotus Competing Speed, Qingnian Lianhua Jinyue means Youngman Lotus Competing Fun. I dont see any Proton there... Youngman Auto official Website (Chinese Language); http://www.youngmanauto.com/index.asp Google Translate (Language Translate Tool) http://translate.google.com/

By: EricG

EricG — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:56:12 +0000

[quote comment="221838"][quote comment="221831"]holy crap, that rear light looks even better than the msian version.[/quote]

even better? excuse me, even laosai adala.[/quote]

haha. something wrong with ur eyes.

By: johan

johan — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:49:37 +0000

I could be wrong, but I always thought the Gen-2 rear is inspired by the Lotus Exige. The flatten-circular sphere incorporate the round rear light cluster. While the front-end is a WAU-inspired design grill. No matter how you like to bash the Gen-2, it is still a handsome car with flowing lines and coherant design langauge, it didn't meant to have sharp edges like Ford Focus or buldging shoulders like Volvos. With the face-lift version of Gen-2 CPS, I thought it is pretty good compare to alot of Korean or even Japanese car makers. Still I won't buy one because of quality issues and too rakish roofline (which was address in Persona). The rebagde is a mockery to the original design but then again, business is business, what matters is what sells with the Chinese. But making harsh comment about the badge is unjustified, what you mean by communist design? Red? Hammer and a sickle? There is no such thing as communist design except they plaster or engrave Chairman Mao face all over the car. Lets be reasonable and intelligent in making a comment so everyone can learn a thing or two from all the user here.

By: lambov12

lambov12 — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:44:05 +0000

it looks rubbish ..