In a car crash we have side airbags for side impacts but in cases where there are two or more passengers in the rear, they can end up hitting each other. Toyota’s solution for this is a new rear-seat center airbag which deploys between the rear passenger seats. It is fitted in a fixed rear-seat center console, and will debut in a production Toyota soon. Another first in the world of airbags for Toyota recently was the Toyota iQ’s rear curtain airbag, necessary because the rear passengers are so near the rear window.
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What happens if someone sits in the middle then? Will the person be thrown forward during airbag deployment or will it be intelligent enough to sense that middle person?
Question is, will we ever see it in a Toyota brought in by UMW?
Man, this is hard…There's nothing much to say and comment on airbags. A rear center airbag…ummm…thanks Toyota??? That's all I can come up with.
do you think this rear center airbag will be featured in perodua mpv?????
In the end there will be 35 airbags altogether in a car.
Whatever.
Put a monkey on a steering wheel and it may end up killing 4 or 5 other people in the other car while this monkey come out scratch free, then boasted on how his car is God sent.
pttfhhh..!
BANTAL untuk tidoQ!!! stupid idea from Toyo
u will become deft and had injury due to the airbag ..
it wont be a nice experience to been hit in the face by so many airbags ..
although i havnt try that out yet .. lolx ..
They are still some people tot that air-bags dont save life… If air-bag no use, why those Europe nation, US need new cars to standart it. Now Traction & stability also need to be standart! They are more better drivers, education & moral level is higher compare to us, but still they need the most safety technology?
Now Volvo, Merc already inventing collition free cars, even a monkey want to knock into other cars, the car will automatically emergency brake to reduce the impact. Think again, in the future there might be less casulty… You might be thankfull that you have these safety technology with you.
I think that this feature will only suitable for those cars with two rear seats, so only High-end model will get it…
[quote comment="224546"]They are still some people tot that air-bags dont save life… If air-bag no use, why those Europe nation, US need new cars to standart it. Now Traction & stability also need to be standart! They are more better drivers, education & moral level is higher compare to us, but still they need the most safety technology?
Now Volvo, Merc already inventing collition free cars, even a monkey want to knock into other cars, the car will automatically emergency brake to reduce the impact. Think again, in the future there might be less casulty… You might be thankfull that you have these safety technology with you.[/quote]
My point is, no matter how safe or unsafe is your car, when you're zig-zagging in and out of a busy traffic and speeding like 150kmh on a 50kmh road that may cause an accident, and somebody might get killed or injured. No matter whether your car is a 15 years old milo-tin Proton Saga or a 2008 Swift Sport with all that 6 airbags, when driving like crazy some other people's life is at risk.
I've seen it with my own two eyes. A black Murano I assumed pre-installed with all those airbags and intelligent safety features nearly pushed an old couple on a kapchai to the drainage because of the driver's arrogance or is it simply Rich Man ego or something. I hope that brainless monkey will go down the drain instead altogether with his expensive car and find himself in an ICU somewhere.
madimat, that is stupid ppl driving attitude. This should be handle by the police traffic.
But in real life how many ppl drive like that? You must think of your own & family safety. That why all these safety technology came out to help human. You only got 1 life..
airbag just extra feature for safety, doesn't mean your car got more airbags you won't be killed
The car is the new Crown Majesta. Writing the story now.
airbag tu cuma salah satu syarat untuk keselamatan, tapi tak semestinya ada airbag seluruh kereta u tak tercedera langsung. semestinya cara pemanduan rakyat di Malaysia yang perlu berubah. boleh dikatakan ramai yang baik dan bersopan tapi bila dah pegang stereng kereta banyak berubah samada menjadi "devil" atau menjadi "monkey". tak nafikan ramai jugak ikut peraturan tapi berapa ramai ?. Airbag dicipta untuk mengurangkan kesan hentakkan bila berlaku perlanggaran. tapi kalau dah penuh dalam kereta tak heran satu hari nanti keluar berita yang peratus mati bukan sebab pelanggaran tapi mati sebab lemas dalam airbag tetiba penuh kereta (tu tak masuk yang kena sakit jantung). :)
Crown Majesta, at least it doesn't looks like a fag.
airbag deployment is not a joke.not as soft as many people may thought.more like an explosion right in front of you and a lot of heat and energy are released. think of a balloon bursting right in front of you =)
Saya tidak pernah dengar ada orang lemas dalam air bag?!? You pernah tengok airbag keluar action ke?
Kalau you accident, airbag macam belon. Kalau terkena airbag, airbag itu boleh sendiri pancit. Oleh itu, orang mana boleh lemas?! Kanak-kanak yang duduk di depan itu boleh lemas kerana mereka tidak terkena airbag menyebabkan airbag tidak pancit dan melemaskan mereka. Oleh itu, kanak-kanak tidak sesuai duduk di depan and ada kereta boleh tutup airbag di sebelah penduduk.
You orang memang perlu pergi belajar tentang keselamatan kenderaan. Dashyat memang! Sudah 21st century tapi tak tau technology keselamatan!
When air-bag burst, there is what i call safety-belt! Nowadays safety-belt have pre-tensioner, it means that when you accident, air-bag burst out the safety-belt will hold on to you 1 second before letting you to hit the air-bag which help reduce direct hit injury!!!
WTF are you all! Air-bag is so common at overseas until you all still in dinosour world thinking that air-bag can kill a person like you! If air-bag are design to kill WTF they implemented into cars!?!?
Littlefire, we are living in a country which produicng cars with 2 airbags and ABS+EBD will be considered as `HI-LINE', top-spec, exclusive or whatever they called it. Bunch of morons and nicompooops.. Ask them how does a traction control/ESP/DTC works, you may get some hillarious answers..
[quote comment="224597"]When air-bag burst, there is what i call safety-belt! Nowadays safety-belt have pre-tensioner, it means that when you accident, air-bag burst out the safety-belt will hold on to you 1 second before letting you to hit the air-bag which help reduce direct hit injury!!!
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one of the big issues about airbags in malaysia is, there are still many malaysian's who do not wear seatbelts.. also, i regularly see kids unbelted, and in the front seat of cars with airbags on the front passenger side or carried by the front passenger.
airbags are but 1 safety item in the long list of safety features possibly fitted in a car.
there are so many things like education, govt legislation..etc. etc. that are not up to scratch. if you're going to be talking safety, we need to start with legislation and education first imho.
im not talking about airbag's bag bursting. i saying the sound and feeling of airbag activated is like a balloon bursting albeit at a much faster pace and bigger in size.
anyway, when an activated, it involves a chemical reaction that produces tonnnes of air within like 0.4 seconds?
Why is everything end up about malaysian car even the topic is not related to malaysian car? is it malaysian car too s*x?
hm..or maybe some ppl just don't know how 2 appreciate other ppl's work..
maybe 1st thing, should make/force malaysian ppl use seatbelt as their habbit not only when saw road block br terhegeh2 nk pakai seatbelt…or learn how 2 drive more polite 1st br la pasal airbag ni bleh citer pjg lebar..
if not…even your car have hundreds of airbag it wont be useful… so..ppl change your habbit 1st k…
I really like to know what happens to the guy in the middle too :P
probably for high end cars with only 2 rear seats. we wont see this here in our everyday cars for quite some time.
curtain,knee,head and side airbags are good enough for me!
best of all is the driver's knowledge. lol. if the driver is good, he can avoid accidents, machiam transporter.lol.
The Crown Majesta (the car that will debut this new airbag) only has two seats at the back, so there's no middle passenger to worry about.
Instead of lauding innovations in SRS air-bag technologies, you guys are saying airbags are useless because people are not wearing seatbelts. Is is smart to say such a thing?
I blame the idiocy of the drivers and passengers (and even some readers) who don't use the seatbelts. Do they think the seatbelt is a decoration?
Frankly I think people who don't wear seatbelts when driving are asking for trouble. There is absolutely NO excuse for any adult or child not to wear a seatbelt in a car. The Europeans got it right to make these kind of laws.
The airbag is to help save your life in a crash. Frankly, I rather be alive than dead.
Stop all your technobabbling!! Having extra airbag wouldn't hurt.
[quote comment="224597"]When air-bag burst, there is what i call safety-belt! Nowadays safety-belt have pre-tensioner, it means that when you accident, air-bag burst out the safety-belt will hold on to you 1 second before letting you to hit the air-bag which help reduce direct hit injury!!!
WTF are you all! Air-bag is so common at overseas until you all still in dinosour world thinking that air-bag can kill a person like you! If air-bag are design to kill WTF they implemented into cars!?!?[/quote]
encik littefire. cik cuba baca bebetul dan paham bebetul. I tak kata dengan keadaan sekarang. tapi mungkin satu hari nanti kalau pasang penuh satu kereta. Kalau aku kata bodoh, marah, melenting tak tentu pasal. Ramai yang ada kat dalam blog nie paham sangat apa fungsi airbag tu. kereta aku pun ada airbag gak. penah gak aku kemalangan. terima kasih sebab ada airbag tu kalau tak aku tak ada dalam blog nie. Airbag hanya perlu dipasang dikawasan zon remuk teruk dan yang punyai potensi kecerderaan teruk jadi potensi nak mati tu kurang. kengkadang cakap ngan monyet lagi dia paham dari orang nie. however PNW :)
Littlefire,DinKnight
I'm in agreement with BMW,
No one is saying that airbags are useless,
Airbags are useless when malaysians can't be taught to wear seatbelts.
No point 8 airbags in a car when you dont belt down, the force of you hitting the airbag will be just as fatal as flying through the windshield, especially for children.
The idea the of the air bag is for suplementary safety (SRS a clue to you?). The seatbelt is still your primary restraint.
You will most likely survive without an airbag, you most likely wont without a seatbelt…even if you have airbags.
I know people that insists that "got airbag mah, no need to wear seatbelt also can…". For these people, it would be better off that thier cars don't have airbags….at least maybe they'd wear seatbelts.
[quote comment="224658"]Instead of lauding innovations in SRS air-bag technologies, you guys are saying airbags are useless because people are not wearing seatbelts. Is is smart to say such a thing?
I blame the idiocy of the drivers and passengers (and even some readers) who don't use the seatbelts. Do they think the seatbelt is a decoration?
Frankly I think people who don't wear seatbelts when driving are asking for trouble. There is absolutely NO excuse for any adult or child not to wear a seatbelt in a car. The Europeans got it right to make these kind of laws.
The airbag is to help save your life in a crash. Frankly, I rather be alive than dead.[/quote]
Agree with Dinknight. it is all about safety features being incorporated into cars. Many manufacturers (except for some obvious ones here) are making cars safer each year. Same as like engine advancement to cut down co2 and reduce fc. Whether ppl wear appreciate them or not it is a totally two different stories altogether. Same as seat belt issue or driving dangerously for eg. By the way, accident can still happen to you even you are driving carefully and cautiously on the road ! I need all these advance safety features, no two way about it. What about you guys ?
That's why many modern cars break to pieces when accident occurs but the passenger cabin remains intact. No point built tough but passengers receiving all the impact energy. I have some pictures just hope I can let you guys see for yourself. Total lost so what ? But, the guy survived without a scratch. All air bags deployed ! Some more asked his wife to go and have a look at the wreckage the next day. By the way, air bags will not deployed if you dun fasten your seat belt.
i dont buy the car without abs, dual airbags (or more)…
[quote comment="224742"]Littlefire,DinKnight
I'm in agreement with BMW,
No one is saying that airbags are useless,
Airbags are useless when malaysians can't be taught to wear seatbelts.
No point 8 airbags in a car when you dont belt down, the force of you hitting the airbag will be just as fatal as flying through the windshield, especially for children.
The idea the of the air bag is for suplementary safety (SRS a clue to you?). The seatbelt is still your primary restraint.
You will most likely survive without an airbag, you most likely wont without a seatbelt…even if you have airbags.
I know people that insists that "got airbag mah, no need to wear seatbelt also can…". For these people, it would be better off that thier cars don't have airbags….at least maybe they'd wear seatbelts.[/quote]
yea… you are correct man, he don't taste yet the deployment of airbag. Even it soft but it slam my face like been slap by bare hand. it hurt to. but lucky im survive (remember kid's don't ever put any emblem on top of airbag). From that day i always remember to wear seat belt at lease for my 1% safety. We can see the accident and police ticket most go to unseatbelt. So if u have any car that have 20 airbag in car, with strong body frame & up to date impact avoider still can't protect you to have major injuries if not wearing seat belt even some said seat belt only safe you 10% but to me enough already. More safety fetures have to add by all car manfacturer are u not wear any seat belt the car will not move even inches… :)
[quote comment="224754"]i dont buy the car without abs, dual airbags (or more)…[/quote]
Agree Sam. Also ABS, EBD, BA, VSC, TC. It all helps one fine day…you just dun know when
ah~so this airbag only applies to 2seater at the back only.
i was wondering during collision, what would happen if the middle person in 3seater at the back forgot to fasten the middle seatbelt?
punch on the head! :P
Which segment C car in MY, with at least 4 airbags? Any idea?
The news here is about the innovations about airbag safety, not about people wearing or not wearing their seatbelts. TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES. Of course I know airbags are supplementary and seatbelts are primary restraints, I'm not disputing that. The thing I am disputing here is that many are negative against airbag technology (saying airbags deployed is like a being slapped with a bare hand), as if they know better than the established car manufacturers who put these airbags as standard in vehicles.
What, you guys can make better airbags than them? Show us.
In addition, for the airbag to work effectively in helping to save your life, you must wear your seatbelt to have the best chances of survival.
however, judging from the comments I am reading, it seems many of you accept the norm that many people view the seatbelt as an option when driving and not mandatory. These people need to grow up/mature/get an education and learn that the seatbelt MUST be worn at all times in a vehicle, yes even when the car is stationary.
It is not the fault of airbags or car munufacturers if you don't survive in a crash because of your own ignorance in not wearing the seatbelt..
video used seat belt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIHoL5coYjo
importance to wear seat belt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIHoL5coYjo
Here is the Volvo truck which have the most intelligent system that even a monkey want to run out of track or knock ppl will prevent it… Their aim is 0% fatality for Volvo driver..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpGKOu8OTxI
For dummies who know nothing about air-bags!
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/airbag.htm
Traction control: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/28000-traction-cont…
& Electronic stability control (ESC or VSC): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stability_control
The first for Toyota, others have introduced this same concept only different method such as side curtains. Overall Japanese cars are not commonly first in introducing new technologies, they usually follow what the Europeans paved and modify it here and there. Japanese tech are years behind conti cars, but then again, you get what you pay for…
[quote comment="224779"]The news here is about the innovations about airbag safety, not about people wearing or not wearing their seatbelts. TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES. Of course I know airbags are supplementary and seatbelts are primary restraints, I'm not disputing that. The thing I am disputing here is that many are negative against airbag technology (saying airbags deployed is like a being slapped with a bare hand), as if they know better than the established car manufacturers who put these airbags as standard in vehicles.
What, you guys can make better airbags than them? Show us.[/quote]
Aku pernah terlibat dalam kemalangan jalan raya disebabkan seekor monyet yang bolah bawa kereta mahal (Mati tak pakai seat belt tercampak keluar kereta). Terima kasih atas teknologi airbag, kalau tak aku tak ada kat sini nak cerita macam mana rasa. yang aku ingat airbag tu mengembang dengan cepat yang mana akan menyebabkan muka rasa macam kena tampar. atau cuba bayangkan kena hempok dengan bantal kekabu kuat-kuat. sakit tak ?. cuba buat. Yang aku cakap airbag tu perlu di tempat yang sepatutnya aje macam pelanggaran dari tepi atau pelanggaran dari hadapan dan juga dari belakang. Kepada encik DinKNight, adakah anda ada pengalaman macam saya ?. Kalau tak jangan nak kata sesuatu yang tak berilmiah. setiap set yang dipasang dalam sesebuah kenderaan itu adalah mengikut keperluan dan spec. Bukan main pasang aje. Ianya berdasarkan ujian simulasi pelanggaran.
Tentang trak yang dipasang intelligent system tu ianya berguna di luar negara sebab pematuhan jalan raya di sana amat kuat. itu hanya untuk mengurangkan kes pemandu tertidur waktu memandu. baik jugak tapi kosnya ?. Selalunya pemeriksaan puspakom pun lori dan bas kat malaysia skip.
Initial R, you must thank full to air-bag and god. For you are still alive and typing in this blog.
Tentang kosnya bagi trak intelligent itu, orang yang mati akan berkurangan. Kalau you mati, ada banyak wang pun tak dapat selamatkan you. Tapi kalau wang itu digunakan dalam technology keselamatan, you masih hidup lagi!
Toyota is still the best…good job
It's not like the ppl here are anti-airbag. It's just that… if u hvn't learn how to walk, why try running in a 100m sprint?
Look at many ppl's attitude when govt wanna intro compulsory rear seat belt ruling. Some say more opportunity for polis to ask duit kopi la, some say kroni la, some say membebankan rakyat la, some say govt got nothing more important to do la, this la that la blablabla. Very few applaud this positive move, n even then, those who show support must've been labelled as supporting BN ie supporting corruption, racism, kronyism, nepotism, etcetc. Puh-leez la……
I hv 2 frens involved in accidents. In both cases, seat belts are their true saviour, airbags meanwhile only deploy after they've stopped dead (A Honda Civic latest gen n a Kia Carnival aka Naza Ria).
Airbags, can fail. Yes, they mayb nice to hv, but my point is if we can't even belt up, dun expect other safety features to make up for it. U dun belt up, u get f*cked up, it's ur fault, nt the car's fault, not the govt's fault for trying to get u to belt up, n nt the police's fault who wouldn't hv asked u duit kopi if u buckled up. Period.
2 or 3 years ago, I remember there was a local news of the "uncrushable" S-class involved in an accident where all 4 occupants dead. That's a car with 9, 10, or 11 airbags for all I care.
Safety is just like the fish proverb. U can give a man a fish n he'll feed for a day. U teach him how to fish, u feed him a lifetime. U give a "monyet" an "uncrushable" S-class sekalipun, it will still crash it. U teach a man how to drive safely, he won't die even if he's in just a junk proton.
More emphasis needs to given to safety education at driving schools. I just read today's paper where the public can ride a crane or something that has car seats with seat belts to simulate the impact of an accident. Maybe everyone needs to be given a ride in it.
Initial R,
What are you babling about? Because you were involved in an accident and got an experience of an airbag deployment, does it make you an expert? You survived but complaining about the discomfort of the airbag? Maybe you would have preferred death?
If you don't want an airbag to save you next time, buy a car without airbags equipped.
[quote comment="224854"]Initial R, you must thank full to air-bag and god. For you are still alive and typing in this blog.
Tentang kosnya bagi trak intelligent itu, orang yang mati akan berkurangan. Kalau you mati, ada banyak wang pun tak dapat selamatkan you. Tapi kalau wang itu digunakan dalam technology keselamatan, you masih hidup lagi![/quote]
Goos idea, now who has a few million dollars to spare? Ops, apparently, many are busier saving costs, n still post losses.
It's just cheaper n more effective to get people to improve their driving skills. Of course accidents can still happen, but it helps if we're prepared for it ie getting buckled up.
Correction: "Good" instead of "Goos"
Many are still arguing about the usefulness of an Airbag. Fact is many research had proven that Airbags help to reduce the risk of serious injury. Think about it, would you rather be slapped by an Airbag or being hit by a steering wheel. You decide which would have more lasting injuries.
Another things is that almost everyone talking about accident due to the drivers faults. But what about accidents due to some other vehicle crashing into you. In the real world. Accidents happen be it due to your fault or others. Embrace the technology of modern cars that would help to avoid an accident or reduce the risk of injuriy.
[quote comment="224570"]airbag just extra feature for safety, doesn't mean your car got more airbags you won't be killed[/quote]
Another story, you wont be killed if you are careful driver, you may killed if you travel with car, so better stay at home.
Toyota try hardworking to bring more useful features to costumer to make sure always stay number 1 in the car manufacturing… this is what I got in this topic. No wonder ppl likes branded even Toyota is no. 1 to American today.