P/s- i’m not an enviromentalist. everybody knows the world gonna end, no matter how you try to preserve it. it is just this idea should not go to waste.

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They made their own electric motor, use chasis from Proton, use battery system from another makers, and sort of put things together and hit the road.

Isnt that simple? Is it that simple?

Truth is, if we never invented oil burners we will be all driving electrical car now, and the technology is gonna be way more refined.

Time to reinvent the wheel.

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see the video on http://www.icars.sg about same topic

u will impressive

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i do believe, our direction is to go green and no emission wolrd.

let see any different direction next year on our gov enviroment policy.

No tax for electric car perhaps? (not hybrid, hybrid sounds hoax to me -overarated) Go EV!

*btw i dislike najib just like many of us here. hehe!

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which is why thy're not selling in malaysia first.. they are concentrating on countries that are already giving incentives for zero emission cars, and where the population are more environmentally conscious. also, whoever they are, this prodist company, seems to be working towrds putting infrastructure for e cars in malaysia already.. hopefully, they do a good job of it, and not screw up.

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hpoefully it won't be like having the system discharge more than what it claim under hot weather…then it will not be able to hit the travel range claimed..

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Only concern now, one down the other up, for sure the electricity tariff surely shoot up. If this car launch, i will buy TNB share.

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er, whats ur point?[/quote]

Platform sharing.

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er, whats ur point?

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I mean why detroit unable to get any platforms from hyundai (their first customer), ford or chrysler for their product? Hyundai just did not give in to Detroits even they have tested the detroit prototype… usually a vehicle platform is your competitive edge and why let other ppl have it? something smells rat here….[/quote]

are you sure detroit is unable to get from hyundai? can you confirm this?

anyways, proton has already done a similar deal with youngman. so they're no stranger to this kind of arrangement.

as for a manufacturers platform, the days are changing.. if a manufacturer can gain more volume from selling it under another badge, i dont see why not. in fact, so many manufacturers today are already sharing platforms.[/quote]

duh.. PASSO / BOON / JUSTY and our beloved "national car" MyVi

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I mean why detroit unable to get any platforms from hyundai (their first customer), ford or chrysler for their product? Hyundai just did not give in to Detroits even they have tested the detroit prototype… usually a vehicle platform is your competitive edge and why let other ppl have it? something smells rat here….[/quote]

are you sure detroit is unable to get from hyundai? can you confirm this?

anyways, proton has already done a similar deal with youngman. so they're no stranger to this kind of arrangement.

as for a manufacturers platform, the days are changing.. if a manufacturer can gain more volume from selling it under another badge, i dont see why not. in fact, so many manufacturers today are already sharing platforms.

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Lam was employed by Lotus before he left an bought the name DE. Its not a scam. He knows what he's doing. We just need to get more investors in developing batteries. Plus we need the infrastructure. Either the leasing of batteries or the charging facilities. It needs more than just the car.

Look at it this way, Tesla don't do anything. Its all subcontracted out. Hethel does most of it. Well, they did sort out the DC circuit bits. But that's what most people can do. Having the Tesla by Lotus, and now DE. We just captured the world market for EV. Genius really.

This is what a lot of developed countries are afraid of. The tech for EV is so-open-source with no copyright issues to hold back the developing countries from having a go at it.

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I think many people are still very skeptic because of the severely lack of detail or 'transparency' on the whole process…….. not just the car itself.

Of course many people are not 'techno geek' such as urself (including myself), but eventually whatever success or blunder that will happen, it will again be on us the taxpayers with directly on indirectly (haiyyaaa…..again)

Secondly, whatever the price is, it will be A LOT to our pocket i we were to buy this however good the technology is. I agree that the details are very sketchy….. how about post sales service, maintainence, spare parts etc. Nothing whatsoever. It may save petrol or the environment or whatever but in reality, we must save our pocket first isnt it?

Being it in Malaysia, the buyer (or the future buyer) would also have to pray a lot so that it wont be another "white elephant' or "sekerat jalan"(as what had happened to other projects) after buying the car. (Still waiting for NGV station in my hometown after so long…….)

So, U really should not compare it with that pedal car of yours.

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Looser means followers. Maybe our ancestors were a bunch looser and properly channeled those mindset to our head. And some of us still strictly obey this state of mind and admit that everything must come from US, Europe, or even bloody, knowledge-stingy japanese and korean.

I used to checkup my kid's electric pedal car (rechargeble toy car i suppose). Its consist of a 12w motor, a tiny rechargeable 6V 4.5AH lead acid battery, single wheel drive. Made in China summore (u know the quality right?). Now take this as an example.

Its fully charge in 2 hours. Its good for half an hour play or shorter, depend on how frequent the 'high speed' mode was used. The whole car weigh around 15kg. My son weighing around the 12.5kg. Thats well over 80% of the car weight. The car can run up to 8kmh on high speed mode. Sometimes both my kids ride one single car (well.. kids..) and that already surpass the car weight (almost 25kg) and the car still run on almost the same phase and duration. About half an hour.

How about change those batteries to proper li polymer, use a more efficient motor and include a proper energy controller… computerized or sorts. Its feasible u see.

I believe proton is not that stupid…

About Detroit Electric.. hmm.. well lets wait & see. If this Lam fella is good in politic.. he better run for president in any other country. He can get both, money and power rather than running a scam on a cheap company car.

And its good to have some basic knowledge on electric motors before comment. From what i know, electric motor… besides being high in torque and peak power, it also have a very wide range of usable so-called 'rpm' which makes the conventional gearbox obsolete.

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Good Partnership! Just pray that it would not end like the VW breakup.

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look… i admire my national car and do not want them to play out by some ponzi fellas.[/quote]

You got a point there bro.[/quote]

I think.. it's not 'being rejected'.

It's about time!.

Might be caused by the cheap gassoline, no one care about EV. but after once gasoline price hike.. then we will think about alternative. It's a common tipical human being those choosing what is easier for them. Even thought.. the most thoughest part are 'do you dare to change?'

Just remember the Ford in earlier age.. someone just saying to him..

'what car?, the horses a better'. Then the day's come later.

Same apply to EV. I think just like you all too… We are living in 'Gassoline combustion engine era'… we will resist an EV with our own reason. some of us maybe skeptical. some of them also sellfish.. just like EV blocked and not supported by many big country such as America before. because US got stock of billions 'tongs' of crude oil. but the way now are different.

Im not talking much about enviroment here. But we're sure WONT GET OUT OF OUR OFFICE EVERYDAY under the HOTTEST SUN . We also know, it getting hotter everyday!. Even worst… maybe just only me realized.. that we were living under Khatulistiwa Zero Degrees? The hottest part on earth perhaps?

D you dare to change? I do.

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not MLB..It's NBA! detroit pistons..my fav team..thts why i know.

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look… i admire my national car and do not want them to play out by some ponzi fellas.[/quote]

You got a point there bro.

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battery technologies will rapid improve after that! and surely getting cheaper and last longer!..

When there's demands, there's supply.. and there's technology evolved.[/quote]

I read somewhere that nano tech battery is charging very fast. But well, its still in the lab.

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look… i admire my national car and do not want them to play out by some ponzi fellas.

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erm.. but DE is not selling anything at all.. in fact, they're not even selling anything to Proton. thats what i understand from the press release anyways.

they take platform from proton, they pay proton.. so whats wrong with that? i dont see any resemblance to the MV thingy at all.[/quote]

If this plan executed successfully, Proton stand a chance to gain more money and get a bigger scale. That is a good news for Malaysia.[/quote]

I mean why detroit unable to get any platforms from hyundai (their first customer), ford or chrysler for their product? Hyundai just did not give in to Detroits even they have tested the detroit prototype… usually a vehicle platform is your competitive edge and why let other ppl have it? something smells rat here….

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battery technologies will rapid improve after that! and surely getting cheaper and last longer!..

When there's demands, there's supply.. and there's technology evolved.

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