so last 2 today ago…i make decision after struggle 4 month think about MPV…
I GO FOR GRAND LIVINA……
i believe they got what i want…bye bye EXORA….

need your help urgently. im a student in final year and took degree in mechanical eng. currently im doing my final year project about aerodynamic study of proton exora which i must determine drag and lift coefficient by two methods; wind tunnel testing and simulation (computational fluid dynamic fluent). i need the dimension (external) of exora to make a model using prototype machine and for simulation used. i do’t know how to get the dimension. hope that u can help mie…tq

proton pcs of junk selling superior high price ..

loan exora from somebody & try la. drive to believe.

other mpv also ok. your money, your choice.

DSZ … when is replacement model for waja? look old la.

go find other mpv….

so far my exora gooooooooooooooooooood…

I dont like to bash other of their own preference MPV or car . They have their own reason and it is their own money .

I’m totally agree with u. Nice comments and very encouraging..

kualiti pun ok. x ada masalah proton exora . minyak pun ok. tak lah banyak sangat.
kalau korang risau pasal minyak…baik pakai basikal aje..senang cerita.

kepada yang nak beli exora..teruskan..anda pasti terpesona.

kepada pengkritik..malas saya nak layan…saya hanya layan orang yang ada pakai exora aje..jgn x pakai…bukan tahu pun…dengar cakap org..

jang pastinya..proton banyak menunjukkan peningkatan dalam kualiti nya.

bagus proton.

I went to the Taman Ria, Sungai Petani Proton showroom to checkout the car and the service was excellent. Regardless of what I look like..or whether I am going to buy the car. The service is the same. And after surveying other Proton dealers, I found out that Taman Ria branch is the only one offering pensioners an opportunity to own the car..

Basically u get M-line Exora (downpayment around rm1600) but pay mthly installments of the H-line variety. (Around rm800++/9yrs)

Maybe En Ahmad Zahirani should drop by if he is still interested?

aspire – Saya ada duit dan boleh beli Exora, tapi saya tak mau. Proton banyak problem dan saya tak ada masa pergi workshop. Selalu pergi workshop tak boleh cari duit. U ingat 1.6L punya engine dalam MPV ada kuasa tak. U kira u punya minyak, makan minyak kuat ke tak? Kalau mau beli kereta, mau guna otak sikit.

About waranty. I am not gonna waste my bloody time going to Proton everytime there is a problem. I have much better things to do.

Do you know that eventhough Proton bought Lotus, Lotus is not using Campro engine. They are using Toyota engine. The best cars around the world are not European or American cars, but they are Japanese cars. Cheap and no problem.

Next time pls get all your facts before shooting. If not you will make an ass of yourself.[/quote]

I totally totally agree with you!

To Protonfanatic – Karamjit Singh drove Proton Wira in WRC? my arse!…It was Mitsubishi Evo with Wira body you idiot!

those two models will defintely be affected by this newcomer.

really surprising, the price and stuff offered.

but quality wise, lets see how it holds up.[/quote]

I dont want to downgrade proton since I used to drive around in a Saga and a Wira..but due to the expansion of my family members, I decided to have a bigger car..my choice? Well, I bought a Livina 2 months ago.

People ask me why I dont wait for Exora or bought an Innova or Avanza for that matter…..well here is my answer :

1. Power. The moment I test drove a Livina, Innova and Avanza (since there is no Exora to test drive at that time)..i fell in love straight away with Livina and place my order immediately.

2. Handling. There is nothing compared to Electronic Power Steering and Ripple Control Suspension. Absolutely no match.

3. Luxury. Well, if you choose Livina Luxury model, it gives you luxurious sensation.

Then when an exora was available to be test driven, I test drove the car and I am relief because……

I made the right decision!

Kepada yang x puas hati pd exora..senang je cakap..kau orang mana mampu nak beli kereta ini..so diam..jgn komen x bagus kalau x mampu beli.
pakai pun tidak..

Itu lah ,ini lah…ada pakai ke exora…so jgn komen benda yang anda tak ada..
malu aje..cari duit lah..kalau nak beli..

rasanya korang ni pakai moto aje kot…….

About waranty. I am not gonna waste my bloody time going to Proton everytime there is a problem. I have much better things to do.

Do you know that eventhough Proton bought Lotus, Lotus is not using Campro engine. They are using Toyota engine. The best cars around the world are not European or American cars, but they are Japanese cars. Cheap and no problem.

Next time pls get all your facts before shooting. If not you will make an ass of yourself.

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To all Proton bashers,

It’s funny that as Malaysians, we always look at ourselves with that feeling of inferior complex & always like to criticizing & bashing our own car manufacturing company and car, however good they are. I believe Malaysians should be given an award for the most people in the whole wide world who have the most negative thinking about themselves & the ability of their own kind to produce a good car. Criticize, criticize, criticize & bashing, bashing, bashing our Proton company & car. I guess it’s the colonial mentality that we still inherited from the British, where the British are always the superior race, while we Malaysians are always the inferior ones.

The British and Americans never never criticize their own kind. Even when their national football team sucks & didn’t manage to enter the last European Cup in 2008 or the World Cup. And when foreigners, either Italian, French or Spanish people criticizing the British or American national football team, they will defend their reputation like hell! Even in reality their national football sucks! They will always defend their reputation, even though the reality is like that. They are even willing to fight & go war just to defend their reputation! Remember the England hooligans? The England hooligans always ran amok everytime their national football team or club football loses to a foreign national team or club football. The reason, maybe after the game, when an opposing team won the game, their supporters start to insult the England supporters. What happen next? Mayhem! Nobody mess with them! That’s why they advance further & become world class & 1st class people.

Whereas some Malaysians here have a 3rd world mentality, giving the harshest critic & bashing to their own fellow citizens working in Proton. Luckily, these few Malaysian citizens who receive the harshest critic & bashing from 3rd class mentality Malaysians; remain patience, preserve, work harder & someday would like to prove these 3rd Class mentality Malaysian fools that they are wrong.

A good example is when the British Topgear, hosted by Jeremy Clarkson was making fun of the Perodua Kelisa. Instead of Malaysians defending our pride & joy, most of us join him in cruising & bashing the Perodua Kelisa. That’s what I call a colonial mentality!

The British people are like that! They like to make fun of other people cause they think they are the superior race. With the price so cheap, Perodua Kelisa is design for a specific purpose. It is designed for people looking for cheap, low maintenance, convenience, easy parking, petrol saving & city driving environment. This car is not make for performance, speeding or racing! What do u expect? Buying one of the cheapest car & expect it to run like a Ferrari, handle like a Lotus & safety like a Volvo? WTF! DON’T compare Kelisa to a Ferrari or a Mitsubishi Evo stupid!

If you want to compare a car, compare it apple to apple. Compare it within the same car class or similar price. Don’t compare an apple with a durian!

In addition, in Topgear, the British always bragging about themselves & make fun of the Malaysian & Korean car manufacturers saying these cheap car are lousy & low quality.

Guess what? Below are the list of defunct or bankrupted British car manufacturers:-
Austin, Autovia, BMC, BLMC, British Leyland, Dawson, De Lorean Motor Company, Hillman, Humber, Jensen, Lea-Francis, MG Rover, Morris Motor Company, Nuffield, Riley, Rootes, Singer, Standard, Sterling, Sunbeam, Sunbeam-Talbot, Sunbeam-Talbot-Darracq, Talbot, Triumph Motor Company, Vanden Plas, Wolseley.

In addition, what happen to British car manufacturers like Lotus, Jaguar, MINI, Land Rover & Aston Martin? All are sold & owned by foreign car manufacturer, or else these brands will go bankrupted like the ones above. Lotus sold to Proton Malaysia, Jaguar & Land Rover sold to Tata India, Mini to BMW Germany & Aston Martin sold to Middle East investors.

Even GM & Chrysler went bankrupted & had to be bailed out by the American government. In times like these, where most car manufacturers either went bankrupted or scaled down their operation, Proton & Perodua are spending more money into research & marketing and entering into more new markets. Remember, Proton bought over Lotus, increasing our market share in Britain & other parts of the world each year, entering the IRC & WRC rally this year while other car manufacturers withdraw from it and Proton is entering new markets like India & mainland Europe this year.

I am wondering, why Proton & Perodua are still selling their cars in Britain & still didn’t go bankrupted or sold to other foreign owned companies like the others? Proton & Perodua should stop selling their cars in Britain by now. Hell, Proton should close shop now instead of entering new market in India & mainland Europe this year and entering the IRC rally this year. Proton might also enter the WRC rally next year while some manufacturer like Subaru is quitting it. And Proton can afford to hire Petter Solberg, the former WRC champion in 2003 as their driver.

In addition, in its first rally debut in Europe, our “crappy” Proton Satria Neo S2000 managed a podium position on its first ever World Rally Championship outing, temporarily beating the current WRC Champion Sebastien Loeb in a full spec WRC Citroen C4, as well as other more experience and well known cars such as Peugeot, VW and Fiat. For your information, Sebastien Loeb is a five time WRC champion while the Proton Satria Neo S2000 driver, Niall McShea was only a former Production Car World Rally champion. And how on earth, our “unreliable” Proton Wira, driven by our own Karamjit Singh can won the FIA Production World Championship in 2002 and FIA Asia-Pacific Championship in 2004? Can some 3rd class mentality Malaysians please answer these questions?

Remember, these Proton & Perodua cars might look ugly, lousy & unreliable, but the Brits are still buying it!!! And the numbers keep increasing every year! Especially times like these where the world is in recession. But you guys forget, these type of cars that Proton and Perodua are selling that are responsible for KILLING the British car manufacturers, until forcing the British car manufacturer either to go bankrupt or to be sold off to foreign owned company like Proton where the Brits like to poke fun at in Topgear and in their car magazine. Remember, without Proton, Lotus might go bankrupt. MG Rover went bankrupted when Proton decided not to purchase it years ago. Hello, who is having the last laugh now?

Automotive industry in the United Kingdom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_motor_industry#Some_manufacturers_no_longer_in_existence

So all Malaysians, please WAKE UP!! Don’t be 3rd class mentality Malaysian fools, but become World Class & 1st class mentality Malaysian geniuses. DEFEND Proton & Perodua cars like hell if any idiots want to criticize or bash them. All nationalistic, patriotic & 1st class mentality Malaysians should bash these 3rd class mentality Malaysian morons like hell!

If you just purchase a Proton or Perodua and facing some problems with the car, such as window stuck or air-con not working, just don’t come to the forum and complain about the car. You have the damn warranty right? Make use of the warranty & problem will be settle for free. Make use of your head, just don’t be a moron and and complain it over the internet. It just show your stupidity to the world that you don’t know about the damn warranty.

If you are a Malaysian, and not proud of what Proton has achieve, like to give stupid comment about Proton for no obvious reasons & still think Proton car sucks, find yourself another country such as Bangladesh or some African countries like in Somalia. I believe you better belong in those countries…

P/S: 3rd class mentality Malaysians, you are welcome to pack your bag & leave this country for good. We don’t need idiots like you in here!

By Protonfanatic

I totally and utterly agree with you!!!……I think who criticizes and bashes our own country national products are just Malaysian by name…..they are not patriotic at all and indeed two-faced people….and indeed these people will leave Malaysia if this country will ever be in trouble…….
Sometimes I wonder how they can be Malaysians or born in Malaysia when they have this kind of mentality……

Last , I just want to say…CONGRATULATION PROTON FOR THE NEW MPV!!!…I am buying one right now :-0

April 15, 2009 @ 10:45 pm · Quote

…the headlights from new jazz…the grill from usdm accord……

rear also from another MPV, but cant recall which model……

overall ugly. bad performance.

another model to potong malaysian citizens.

hopefully they potong enough off the lower class citizens and stop asking for goverment protection, so that all of us can finally own nice cars that we deserve
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To all Proton bashers,

It’s funny that as Malaysian, we always look at ourself with that feeling of inferior complex & always like to critizing & bashing our own car manufacturing company and car, however good they are. I believe Malaysians should be given an award for the most people in the whole wide world who have the most negative thinking about themselves & the ability of their own kind to produce a good car. Criticize, criticize, criticize & bashing, bashing, bashing our Proton company & car. I guess it’s the colonial mentality that we still inherited from the British, where the British are always the superior race, while we Malaysians are always the inferior ones.

The British and Americans never never critize their own kind. Even when their national football sucks & didn’t manage to enter the last European Cup in 2008 or the World Cup. And when somebody foreign, either Italian, French or Spanish people criticizing the British or American national football team, they will defend their reputation like hell! Nobody mess with them. Even in reality their national football team sucks! That’s why they advance further & become world class & 1st class people.

Whereas some Malaysians here have a 3rd world mentality, giving the harshest critic & bashing to their own fellow citizens working in Proton. Luckily, these few Malaysian citizens who receive the harshest critic & bashing from 3rd class mentality Malaysians; remain patience, preserve, work harder & someday would like to proof these 3rd Class mentality Malaysian fools that they are wrong.

A good example is when the British Topgear, hosted by Jeremy Clarkson was making fun of the Perodua Kelisa. Instead of Malaysians defending our pride & joy, most of us join him in critizing & bashing the Perodua Kelisa. That’s what I call a colonial mentality!

The British people are like that! They like to make fun of other people cause they think they are the superior race. With the price so cheap, Perodua Kelisa is design for a specific purpose. It is designed for people looking for cheap, low maintenance, convenience, easy parking, petrol saving & city driving environment. This car is not make for performance, speeding or racing! What do u expect? Buying one of the cheapest car & expect it to run like a Ferrari, handle like a Lotus & safety like a Volvo? DON’T compare Kelisa to a Ferrari or a Mitsubishi Evo stupid!

If you want to compare a car, compare it apple to apple. Compare it within the same car class or similar price. Don’t compare an apple with a durian!

In addition, the British bragging in TopGear about themselves & make fun of the Malaysian & Korean car manufacturers saying these cheap car are lousy & low quality.

Guess what? Below are the list of defunct or bankrupted British car manufacturers:-
Austin, Autovia, BMC, BLMC, British Leyland, Dawson, De Lorean Motor Company, Hillman, Humber, Jensen, Lea-Francis, MG Rover, Morris Motor Company, Nuffield, Riley, Rootes, Singer, Standard, Sterling, Sunbeam, Sunbeam-Talbot, Sunbeam-Talbot-Darracq, Talbot, Triumph Motor Company, Vanden Plas, Wolseley.

In addition, what happen to British car manufacturers like Lotus, Jaguar, MINI, Land Rover & Aston Martin? All are sold & owned by foreign car manufacturer, or else these brands will go bankrupted like the ones above. Lotus sold to Proton Malaysia, Jaguar & Land Rover sold to Tata India, Mini to BMW Germany & Aston Martin sold to Middle East investors.

Even GM & Chrysler went backrupted & had to be bailed out by the American government. In times like these, where most car manufacturers either went backrupted or scaled down their operation, Proton & Perodua are spending more money into research & marketing and entering into more new markets. Remember, Proton bought over Lotus, increasing our market share in Britain & other parts of the world each year, entering the IRC & WRC rally this year while other car manufacturers withdraw from it and is entering new markets like India & mainland Europe this year.

I am wondering, why Proton & Perodua are still selling their cars in Britain & still didn’t go bankrupted or sold to other foreign owned companies like the others? Proton & Perodua should stop selling their cars in Britain by now. Hell, Proton should close shop now instead of entering new market in India & mainland Europe this year and entering the IRC rally this year. Proton might also enter the WRC rally next year while some manufacturer like Subaru is quitting it. And Proton can afford to hire Petter Solberg, the former WRC champion in 2003 as their driver.

In addition, in its first rally debut in Europe, our “crappy” Proton Satria Neo S2000 managed a podium position on its first ever World Rally Championship outing, temporarily beating the current WRC Champion Sebastien Loeb in a full spec WRC Citroen C4, as well as other more experince and well known cars such as Peugeot, VW and Fiat. For your information, Sebastien Loeb is a five time WRC champion while the Proton Satria Neo S2000 driver, Niall McShea was only a former Production Car World Rally champion. And how on earth, our “unreliable” Proton Wira, driven by our own Karamjit Singh can won the FIA Production World Championship in 2002 and FIA Asia-Pacific Championship in 2004? Can some 3rd class mentality Malaysians please answer these questions?

Remember, these Proton & Perodua cars might look ugly, lousy & unreliable, but the Brits are still buying it!!! And the numbers keep increasing every year! Especially times like these where the world is in recession. But you guys forget, these type of cars that Proton and Perodua are selling that are responsible for KILLING the British car manufacturers, until forcing the British car manufacturer either to go bankrupt or to be sold off to foreign owned company like the Brits like to poke fun at such as Proton. Remember, without Proton, Lotus might go bankrupt. MG Rover went bankrupted when Proton decided not to purchase it years ago. Hello, who is having the last laugh now?

Automotive industry in the United Kingdom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_motor_industry#Some_manufacturers_no_longer_in_existence

So all Malaysians, please WAKE UP!! Don’t be 3rd class mentality Malaysian fools, but become World Class & 1st class mentality Malaysian geniuses. Defend Proton & Perodua cars like hell if any idiots want to critize or bash them.

If you still think Proton car sucks, find yourself another country such as Bangladesh or some African countries like in Somalia. I believe you better belong in those countries…

P/S: 3rd class mentality Malaysians, you are welcome to pack your bag & leave this country for good. We don’t need idiots like you in here!

By Protonfanatic

Right now .. most of my friends (Exorian) gave +ve comments. No major problem.