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	<title>Comments on: Geely GE shamelessly apes the Phantom</title>
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		<title>By: Saleh Al hashemi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-379088</link>
		<dc:creator>Saleh Al hashemi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had it not been for CHINA no one of the low and middle class people would have worn or owned a commodity whether an immitated swiss watch or copycat RR? We have to be realistic and logical in lieu of being resentful and cynical. At least the majority of people now can afford to dream to possess semiqualitative brands?.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had it not been for CHINA no one of the low and middle class people would have worn or owned a commodity whether an immitated swiss watch or copycat RR? We have to be realistic and logical in lieu of being resentful and cynical. At least the majority of people now can afford to dream to possess semiqualitative brands?.</p>
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		<title>By: fiNG</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-241851</link>
		<dc:creator>fiNG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 00:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY A CAR MANUFACTURER WOULD WASTE TIME DEVELOPING, BUILDING AND LAUNCHING A HEAP OF CRAP LIKE THIS?  WHO ON EARTH WILL BUY IT AND IF THERE&#039;S ANYONE OUT THERE WHO WILL, WHO ARE YOU AND HOW DID YOU MANAGE TO EARN ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY THIS CAR WITHOUT A BRAIN??  THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THE GAP BETWEEN GREAT, INNOVATIVE GROUND BREAKING DESIGN AND UNADULTERATED BULLSHIT HAS JUST WIDENED.  SO I HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU TO GEELY FOR BEING SO PATHETIC.  UNREAL... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY A CAR MANUFACTURER WOULD WASTE TIME DEVELOPING, BUILDING AND LAUNCHING A HEAP OF CRAP LIKE THIS?  WHO ON EARTH WILL BUY IT AND IF THERE&#039;S ANYONE OUT THERE WHO WILL, WHO ARE YOU AND HOW DID YOU MANAGE TO EARN ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY THIS CAR WITHOUT A BRAIN??  THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THE GAP BETWEEN GREAT, INNOVATIVE GROUND BREAKING DESIGN AND UNADULTERATED BULLSHIT HAS JUST WIDENED.  SO I HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU TO GEELY FOR BEING SO PATHETIC.  UNREAL&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Perotiga</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-237711</link>
		<dc:creator>Perotiga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 12:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;235792&quot;] 
what exactly do you mean by that? r u implying that proton don&#039;t know how to build car?  that youngman did nuthing other than rebadging proton&#039;s and decided to put a 2.0 L engine in it..... what is there to teach proton? big car need big engine???[/quote] 
based on the auto sina&#039;s blog, youngman lotus put a 2.0L engine to completion with byd m6, cross and ??? in china. prices may started 130k yuan, around 150 - 170k yuan. seriously... nothing implying. </description>
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<p>what exactly do you mean by that? r u implying that proton don&#039;t know how to build car?  that youngman did nuthing other than rebadging proton&#039;s and decided to put a 2.0 L engine in it&#8230;.. what is there to teach proton? big car need big engine???[/quote]</p>
<p>based on the auto sina&#039;s blog, youngman lotus put a 2.0L engine to completion with byd m6, cross and ??? in china. prices may started 130k yuan, around 150 &#8211; 170k yuan. seriously&#8230; nothing implying.</p>
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		<title>By: Prismo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-236146</link>
		<dc:creator>Prismo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 09:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;236066&quot;][quote comment=&quot;235996&quot;] 
hahaha.. Chery QQ can even score 4 stars at C-NCAP when it&#039;s fail miserably crash test at ENCAP...[/quote] 
really? I am hope so exora didn&#039;t test at CNCAP.[/quote] 
it will if it&#039;s was entering china under Europstar badge.. maybe? maybe...? </description>
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<p>hahaha.. Chery QQ can even score 4 stars at C-NCAP when it&#039;s fail miserably crash test at ENCAP&#8230;[/quote]</p>
<p>really? I am hope so exora didn&#039;t test at CNCAP.[/quote]</p>
<p>it will if it&#039;s was entering china under Europstar badge.. maybe? maybe&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Perotiga</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-236066</link>
		<dc:creator>Perotiga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;235996&quot;] 
hahaha.. Chery QQ can even score 4 stars at C-NCAP when it&#039;s fail miserably crash test at ENCAP...[/quote] 
really? I am hope so exora didn&#039;t test at CNCAP. </description>
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<p>hahaha.. Chery QQ can even score 4 stars at C-NCAP when it&#039;s fail miserably crash test at ENCAP&#8230;[/quote]</p>
<p>really? I am hope so exora didn&#039;t test at CNCAP.</p>
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		<title>By: Prismo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-235996</link>
		<dc:creator>Prismo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 16:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;235865&quot;]one more, shanghai englon 
GE = Geely Excellence 
safety : C-NCAP 5 out of 6 stars  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.auto-show21.com/motershow/auto_shanghai2009/car01/dsc_8458.jpg[/quote]&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.auto-show21.com/motershow/auto_shangha...&lt;/a&gt;  
hahaha.. Chery QQ can even score 4 stars at C-NCAP when it&#039;s fail miserably crash test at ENCAP... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&quot;235865&quot;]one more, shanghai englon</p>
<p>GE = Geely Excellence</p>
<p>safety : C-NCAP 5 out of 6 stars<br />
  <a href="http://www.auto-show21.com/motershow/auto_shanghai2009/car01/dsc_8458.jpg[/quote]" rel="nofollow">http://www.auto-show21.com/motershow/auto_shangha&#8230;</a><br />
hahaha.. Chery QQ can even score 4 stars at C-NCAP when it&#039;s fail miserably crash test at ENCAP&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Perotiga</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-235865</link>
		<dc:creator>Perotiga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 21:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one more, shanghai englon 
GE = Geely Excellence 
safety : C-NCAP 5 out of 6 stars  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.auto-show21.com/motershow/auto_shanghai2009/car01/dsc_8458.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.auto-show21.com/motershow/auto_shangha...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one more, shanghai englon</p>
<p>GE = Geely Excellence</p>
<p>safety : C-NCAP 5 out of 6 stars<br />
  <a href="http://www.auto-show21.com/motershow/auto_shanghai2009/car01/dsc_8458.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.auto-show21.com/motershow/auto_shangha&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reasonably Insane</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-235792</link>
		<dc:creator>Reasonably Insane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 11:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;235690&quot;]goood neews, cop singa Europestar badge CBU Youngman Lotus Exora will launch in china soon with 2.0L engine. keep moving proton to tech them what exactly to built a car. 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://bbs.auto.sina.com.cn/treeforum/App/view.php?fid=131&amp;tbid=7605&amp;bbsid=315&amp;subid=0&amp;isMain=0&amp;id=35938[/quote]&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bbs.auto.sina.com.cn/treeforum/App/view.ph...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
what exactly do you mean by that? r u implying that proton don&#039;t know how to build car?  that youngman did nuthing other than rebadging proton&#039;s and decided to put a 2.0 L engine in it..... what is there to teach proton? big car need big engine??? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&quot;235690&quot;]goood neews, cop singa Europestar badge CBU Youngman Lotus Exora will launch in china soon with 2.0L engine. keep moving proton to tech them what exactly to built a car.</p>
<p>  <a href="http://bbs.auto.sina.com.cn/treeforum/App/view.php?fid=131&amp;tbid=7605&amp;bbsid=315&amp;subid=0&amp;isMain=0&amp;id=35938[/quote]" rel="nofollow">http://bbs.auto.sina.com.cn/treeforum/App/view.ph&#8230;</a>  </p>
<p>what exactly do you mean by that? r u implying that proton don&#039;t know how to build car?  that youngman did nuthing other than rebadging proton&#039;s and decided to put a 2.0 L engine in it&#8230;.. what is there to teach proton? big car need big engine???</p>
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		<title>By: Perotiga</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-235690</link>
		<dc:creator>Perotiga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 21:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>goood neews, cop singa Europestar badge CBU Youngman Lotus Exora will launch in china soon with 2.0L engine. keep moving proton to tech them what exactly to built a car.  
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://bbs.auto.sina.com.cn/treeforum/App/view.php?fid=131&amp;tbid=7605&amp;bbsid=315&amp;subid=0&amp;isMain=0&amp;id=35938&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bbs.auto.sina.com.cn/treeforum/App/view.ph...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>goood neews, cop singa Europestar badge CBU Youngman Lotus Exora will launch in china soon with 2.0L engine. keep moving proton to tech them what exactly to built a car. </p>
<p>  <a href="http://bbs.auto.sina.com.cn/treeforum/App/view.php?fid=131&amp;tbid=7605&amp;bbsid=315&amp;subid=0&amp;isMain=0&amp;id=35938" rel="nofollow">http://bbs.auto.sina.com.cn/treeforum/App/view.ph&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Prismo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-235503</link>
		<dc:creator>Prismo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 22:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;235339&quot;][quote comment=&quot;235251&quot;] 
we know that proton have low q.. but in malaysia fuel eco is the important thing . 
just forget what the top gear say.... 
they only like cars with big engine.. about the quality, proton is in progress... 
u no la how difficult to make a car.....[/quote] 
only savvy has fuel eco, but with the higher maintain cost.[/quote] 
do u have any prove? any savvy&#039;s high maintaining bills that u can show to us here?  
 
on topic 
 
GG versus RR ;) </description>
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<p>we know that proton have low q.. but in malaysia fuel eco is the important thing .</p>
<p>just forget what the top gear say&#8230;.</p>
<p>they only like cars with big engine.. about the quality, proton is in progress&#8230;</p>
<p>u no la how difficult to make a car&#8230;..[/quote]</p>
<p>only savvy has fuel eco, but with the higher maintain cost.[/quote]</p>
<p>do u have any prove? any savvy&#039;s high maintaining bills that u can show to us here? </p>
<p>on topic</p>
<p>GG versus RR <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Prismo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-235501</link>
		<dc:creator>Prismo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 22:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;235234&quot;][quote comment=&quot;234370&quot;][quote comment=&quot;234346&quot;]I saw this car in the Shanghai Auto Show, and also Persona and Savvy over there which are under Lotus badge.[/quote] 
it&#039;s under Europestar badge la kawan..[/quote] 
look at plate in chinese characters, you know what it mean? LOTUS&#039;S CAR. 
proton had learn, &quot;Lotus&quot; Savvy would beat down Myvi years ago.[/quote] 
aduh.. but the badge was a Pranching lion, Europestar badge.. LOTUS&#039;S car mean it&#039;s was Lotus ride, Lotus tuned.. :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&quot;235234&quot;][quote comment=&quot;234370&quot;][quote comment=&quot;234346&quot;]I saw this car in the Shanghai Auto Show, and also Persona and Savvy over there which are under Lotus badge.[/quote]</p>
<p>it&#039;s under Europestar badge la kawan..[/quote]</p>
<p>look at plate in chinese characters, you know what it mean? LOTUS&#039;S CAR.</p>
<p>proton had learn, &quot;Lotus&quot; Savvy would beat down Myvi years ago.[/quote]</p>
<p>aduh.. but the badge was a Pranching lion, Europestar badge.. LOTUS&#039;S car mean it&#039;s was Lotus ride, Lotus tuned.. <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Perotiga</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-235482</link>
		<dc:creator>Perotiga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 20:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;234442&quot;]Someone here said that China is an old country while Malaysia is a new country.  Truth is China is both an old country and a new country.  Old because its civilization started a long time ago and new because its modernization and entry into the modern world was relatively recent. 
 
To put things into perspective, let us compare China and Japan.  Japan started modernization and industrialization from the 1870&#039;s after the Meiji restoration and after a period of 20-30 years (i.e  by towards the end of the 19th century), they had basically industrialized.  From the start of Japanese industrialization to the 1970&#039;s, which is a period of about a 100 years, Japan was called a copycat nation. In fact, Japan famously used to copy machines from the West and they even copy the cracks in them! 
 
China&#039;s real modernization and industrialization can be said to start from Deng Xiao Ping&#039;s reforms starting from 1978.  In that period of about 30 years to the present, China has undergone what some people has  called the &#039;2nd Industrial Revolution&#039;  . (The 1st Industrial Revolution being  the one that took place in the 18th and 19th centuries in the West). 
 
Give the Chinese a bit of time and I am confident that like Japan, they will get out of the copycat mode and in fact get out of it much faster than Japan.[/quote] 
no doubt china know how to copy as well to downgrade. please don&#039;t comparing with japan and malaysia, they don&#039;t have cop ayam. hahaha china&#039;s YingLun, where is my YingLun QingRen? please don&#039;t copy my QingRen(honey). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&quot;234442&quot;]Someone here said that China is an old country while Malaysia is a new country.  Truth is China is both an old country and a new country.  Old because its civilization started a long time ago and new because its modernization and entry into the modern world was relatively recent.</p>
<p>To put things into perspective, let us compare China and Japan.  Japan started modernization and industrialization from the 1870&#039;s after the Meiji restoration and after a period of 20-30 years (i.e  by towards the end of the 19th century), they had basically industrialized.  From the start of Japanese industrialization to the 1970&#039;s, which is a period of about a 100 years, Japan was called a copycat nation. In fact, Japan famously used to copy machines from the West and they even copy the cracks in them!</p>
<p>China&#039;s real modernization and industrialization can be said to start from Deng Xiao Ping&#039;s reforms starting from 1978.  In that period of about 30 years to the present, China has undergone what some people has  called the &#039;2nd Industrial Revolution&#039;  . (The 1st Industrial Revolution being  the one that took place in the 18th and 19th centuries in the West).</p>
<p>Give the Chinese a bit of time and I am confident that like Japan, they will get out of the copycat mode and in fact get out of it much faster than Japan.[/quote]</p>
<p>no doubt china know how to copy as well to downgrade. please don&#039;t comparing with japan and malaysia, they don&#039;t have cop ayam. hahaha china&#039;s YingLun, where is my YingLun QingRen? please don&#039;t copy my QingRen(honey).</p>
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		<title>By: Alfa Juliet</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-235373</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfa Juliet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 09:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF?! They copy the Phantom and make it ugly?! Seriously...WTF?! </description>
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		<title>By: Perotiga</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-235339</link>
		<dc:creator>Perotiga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 02:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;235251&quot;] 
we know that proton have low q.. but in malaysia fuel eco is the important thing . 
just forget what the top gear say.... 
they only like cars with big engine.. about the quality, proton is in progress... 
u no la how difficult to make a car.....[/quote] 
only savvy has fuel eco, but with the higher maintain cost. </description>
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<p>we know that proton have low q.. but in malaysia fuel eco is the important thing .</p>
<p>just forget what the top gear say&#8230;.</p>
<p>they only like cars with big engine.. about the quality, proton is in progress&#8230;</p>
<p>u no la how difficult to make a car&#8230;..[/quote]</p>
<p>only savvy has fuel eco, but with the higher maintain cost.</p>
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		<title>By: ProTon LoVeR</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProTon LoVeR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 15:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;235136&quot;]This is another copycat mastepiece from China. Last time Chery copy almost 100% of chevy Spark and called their own car QQ. Then another chinese carmaker copied Honda CRV. Now Geely copy Rolls-Royce. Its a shame that the Chinese government are not interferign to put this total nonsense to a stop.[/quote] 
 
agree with that........ how a shame... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&quot;235136&quot;]This is another copycat mastepiece from China. Last time Chery copy almost 100% of chevy Spark and called their own car QQ. Then another chinese carmaker copied Honda CRV. Now Geely copy Rolls-Royce. Its a shame that the Chinese government are not interferign to put this total nonsense to a stop.[/quote]</p>
<p>agree with that&#8230;&#8230;.. how a shame&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ProTon LoVeR</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProTon LoVeR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 15:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;234552&quot;]Proton never copied designs of cars. They just used the other cars platforms. however... almost all the protons that i have owned have defective parts. power windows failing,  auto lock doesn&#039;t lock on one door, loud engine noise (if it sounds nice then I won&#039;t mind the engine souns.. but it sounds bad and cheap), horribly stiff and lousy suspension, not even a single engine above 2.0 from proton.... never made a car than can move decently fast. whereas cars from Japan and Germany that i owned never had any problems. Isn&#039;t it a sign that Malaysian auto industry has fallen behind the world standards? just look at topgear.com and see what they say about the malaysian cars. You know it&#039;s cheap and low quality... just admit it[/quote] 
we know that proton have low q.. but in malaysia fuel eco is the important thing . 
just forget what the top gear say.... 
they only like cars with big engine.. about the quality, proton is in progress... 
u no la how difficult to make a car..... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&quot;234552&quot;]Proton never copied designs of cars. They just used the other cars platforms. however&#8230; almost all the protons that i have owned have defective parts. power windows failing,  auto lock doesn&#039;t lock on one door, loud engine noise (if it sounds nice then I won&#039;t mind the engine souns.. but it sounds bad and cheap), horribly stiff and lousy suspension, not even a single engine above 2.0 from proton&#8230;. never made a car than can move decently fast. whereas cars from Japan and Germany that i owned never had any problems. Isn&#039;t it a sign that Malaysian auto industry has fallen behind the world standards? just look at topgear.com and see what they say about the malaysian cars. You know it&#039;s cheap and low quality&#8230; just admit it[/quote]</p>
<p>we know that proton have low q.. but in malaysia fuel eco is the important thing .</p>
<p>just forget what the top gear say&#8230;.</p>
<p>they only like cars with big engine.. about the quality, proton is in progress&#8230;</p>
<p>u no la how difficult to make a car&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Perotiga</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-235234</link>
		<dc:creator>Perotiga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 13:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;234370&quot;][quote comment=&quot;234346&quot;]I saw this car in the Shanghai Auto Show, and also Persona and Savvy over there which are under Lotus badge.[/quote] 
it&#039;s under Europestar badge la kawan..[/quote] 
look at plate in chinese characters, you know what it mean? LOTUS&#039;S CAR. 
proton had learn, &quot;Lotus&quot; Savvy would beat down Myvi years ago. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&quot;234370&quot;][quote comment=&quot;234346&quot;]I saw this car in the Shanghai Auto Show, and also Persona and Savvy over there which are under Lotus badge.[/quote]</p>
<p>it&#039;s under Europestar badge la kawan..[/quote]</p>
<p>look at plate in chinese characters, you know what it mean? LOTUS&#039;S CAR.</p>
<p>proton had learn, &quot;Lotus&quot; Savvy would beat down Myvi years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: layman</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-235215</link>
		<dc:creator>layman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 10:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;235203&quot;]I laugh at the bashers here because on the exterior it look like a RR but in reality it is much smaller than a RR. The two in reality is complete two different. Copying of idea is nothing new in the car industry, it is the only thing in the world no one can patents.[/quote] 
 
Could not agree with you more. And come to think of it, is we Malaysia capable of copy and build a car as good as this? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&quot;235203&quot;]I laugh at the bashers here because on the exterior it look like a RR but in reality it is much smaller than a RR. The two in reality is complete two different. Copying of idea is nothing new in the car industry, it is the only thing in the world no one can patents.[/quote]</p>
<p>Could not agree with you more. And come to think of it, is we Malaysia capable of copy and build a car as good as this?</p>
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		<title>By: flake</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-235203</link>
		<dc:creator>flake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 08:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I laugh at the bashers here because on the exterior it look like a RR but in reality it is much smaller than a RR. The two in reality is complete two different. Copying of idea is nothing new in the car industry, it is the only thing in the world no one can patents. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I laugh at the bashers here because on the exterior it look like a RR but in reality it is much smaller than a RR. The two in reality is complete two different. Copying of idea is nothing new in the car industry, it is the only thing in the world no one can patents.</p>
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		<title>By: myviRS</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-235200</link>
		<dc:creator>myviRS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 08:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;235026&quot;]YINGLUN!!! HAHAHA!!![/quote] 
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!  
 
Again.. YINGLUN. 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&quot;235026&quot;]YINGLUN!!! HAHAHA!!![/quote]</p>
<p>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! </p>
<p>Again.. YINGLUN.</p>
<p>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: briangtr35</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-235165</link>
		<dc:creator>briangtr35</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 02:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man, china now have step forward, but this model dissapointment, copy? for what. Waiting for sue them, well, we have to wait. Rolls royce actually working hard and study hard to build one Phantom, but, come on china, you have design your own luxurious model. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man, china now have step forward, but this model dissapointment, copy? for what. Waiting for sue them, well, we have to wait. Rolls royce actually working hard and study hard to build one Phantom, but, come on china, you have design your own luxurious model.</p>
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		<title>By: Geely sux</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-235136</link>
		<dc:creator>Geely sux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is another copycat mastepiece from China. Last time Chery copy almost 100% of chevy Spark and called their own car QQ. Then another chinese carmaker copied Honda CRV. Now Geely copy Rolls-Royce. Its a shame that the Chinese government are not interferign to put this total nonsense to a stop. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is another copycat mastepiece from China. Last time Chery copy almost 100% of chevy Spark and called their own car QQ. Then another chinese carmaker copied Honda CRV. Now Geely copy Rolls-Royce. Its a shame that the Chinese government are not interferign to put this total nonsense to a stop.</p>
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		<title>By: mukhri88</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-235078</link>
		<dc:creator>mukhri88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;234577&quot;]looks like RR, sound like RR but it&#039;s not a RR[/quote] 
correctcorrectcorrect!  
 
Funny mainlanders.. such fun reading the copycat supporters. Please folks, the copycat era is gone. The Japs did it as well as the Taiwanese, a long time ago. Anybody who copies now are simply treated as a joke now, such comedians. Chinese cars are as much of a joke as American sports cars, haha. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=&quot;234577&quot;]looks like RR, sound like RR but it&#039;s not a RR[/quote]</p>
<p>correctcorrectcorrect! </p>
<p>Funny mainlanders.. such fun reading the copycat supporters. Please folks, the copycat era is gone. The Japs did it as well as the Taiwanese, a long time ago. Anybody who copies now are simply treated as a joke now, such comedians. Chinese cars are as much of a joke as American sports cars, haha.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymouspokesperson</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-235026</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymouspokesperson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YINGLUN!!! HAHAHA!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YINGLUN!!! HAHAHA!!!</p>
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		<title>By: anonymouspokesperson</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-235022</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymouspokesperson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha this is somewhat funny rather than serious, just classic isn&#039;t it the way its being done in china, if u think about it, its just hilarious, not just the car, the name Geely Excellence, the defense of possessing &#039;some&#039; similarities to the rolls. its just ridiculous and they really are making a big mockery out of themselves. hahaha 
 
p.s good one about the highly anti-social paul, i never thought about it that way!!! hahaha </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha this is somewhat funny rather than serious, just classic isn&#039;t it the way its being done in china, if u think about it, its just hilarious, not just the car, the name Geely Excellence, the defense of possessing &#039;some&#039; similarities to the rolls. its just ridiculous and they really are making a big mockery out of themselves. hahaha</p>
<p>p.s good one about the highly anti-social paul, i never thought about it that way!!! hahaha</p>
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		<title>By: zamildrift</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-234966</link>
		<dc:creator>zamildrift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The front looks and the rims are horrendous to me, but inside is a totally original. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The front looks and the rims are horrendous to me, but inside is a totally original.</p>
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		<title>By: master of designer</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-234906</link>
		<dc:creator>master of designer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hate the company that take the r.r. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hate the company that take the r.r.</p>
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		<title>By: gti&#039;o</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-234881</link>
		<dc:creator>gti&#039;o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>atleast maybe ppl in yinglun, like their car... yea put the name yinglun that might work YINGLUN!! rofl </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>atleast maybe ppl in yinglun, like their car&#8230; yea put the name yinglun that might work YINGLUN!! rofl</p>
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		<title>By: Vern</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-234850</link>
		<dc:creator>Vern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously i can&#039;t stop looking at those rims... i think those can only tahan for 1 month and the chrome paint would wear off? hahahaha </description>
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		<title>By: Skippy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/04/27/geely-ge-shamelessly-apes-the-phantom/#comment-234830</link>
		<dc:creator>Skippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nowhere near perdana beauty lol.............. </description>
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